Duterte's Presidency : Expectations, Controversies, Rants, Etc.

[Bolj]

nung umpisa ng Tokhang ang sabi ni Bato mataas ang morale ng kapulisan. inalis, binalik, inalis ang pamamahala ng war on drugs sa kapulisan hindi na nabanggit ang morale kung saan na napunta. may mga nagsasabi ng dahil sa Tokhang mas payapa at ligtas na daw ang mga mamamayan sa lansangan. sa mga binabalita at napapanuod na kuha ng CCTV na holdapan, agaw-motorsiklo, atbp., payapa at ligtas nga ba kesa dati o fake news lang? sana me data na magpapakita ng kasalukuyang antas ng kriminalidad.

Well your on the wrong place asking for data that you want to be legit.

[darksoulriver]

route ng mega subway project ni Du30... kasunod din nito yung upgrade ng napabayaang PNR.

[camiar]

The TRAIN is just one of the master strokes of the Duterte administration. The rise in fuel is minimal compared to the savings that each worker will have, compliments of the TRAIN.

 

 

yes master stroke yan ... kita mo naman ang laki ng tax savings na makukuha ng min wage earners na talaga naman di na kailangan magbayad ng tax dati tapos sapul ngayon sa kaliwa’t kanang pagtaas ng bilihin dahil sa excise tax.

 

henyo talaga si lodi and his minions

 

Giving more take-home pay to the workers is indeed a master stroke. It would stimulate the local economy with increased buying power of the people.

 

The increase in fuel tax is most probably from the advice of Budget Secretary Diokno. He is a firm believer that higher fuel prices is actually good for the country. It encourages people to limit their use. It encourages businesses to improve their process efficiencies to reduce fuel use. In the long term, it prepares us to be efficient in order to be competitive.

[darksoulriver]

Pakilagay ang source ng info, para alam lang kung sa Mocha Uson Blog, Sassot blog, Du30 media , Thinking Pinoy ba galing. Thanks.

 

none of the above hehehe... CNN Philippines

[darksoulriver]

Yup. However, some trolls have either a shallow understanding or really don't understand what the TRAIN is all about.

 

the poor have no benefits on the TRAIN Bill it will cause havoc on petroleum prices for the next 3 years at syempre kasunod nito ang presyo ng fare, commodities etc etc... YAN NA OK NABA SAYO YAN!

 

CNN Philippines have a quite sensible article on the train bill http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2017/12/13/congress-passes-tax-reform.html

 

lahat nakatingin sa masamang epekto sa ngayon ng TRAIN BILL pero hindi tinitignan ang long term effect sa future ng PILIPINAS...

 

sana lng ang papalit sa ngayong administrasyon ay di tulad ng GOBYERNO NI PNOY!

[perfectstranger]

master stroke? lol

 

inflation affects everybody. lower tax for lower and middle class is good, but only for those who have been and are still paying income taxes. what about those who are so poor that they don't have any significant income in the first place? or those who are paying fixed taxes for their small businesses (such as market and street vendors)? they end up spending more in their operations due to rising commodity prices.

 

i heard that the government will give out 200 pesos to help the lower class families that will be affected. if this is true, then they are actually admitting to the fact that train is anti-poor. such dole-outs will be taken from the taxes we pay. this also presents more opportunities for corruption.

 

train could have been good if petroleum products and coal mining have been excluded.

[tk421]

Well TRAIN doesnt affect the super rich. Actually it does, but since theyre so rich anyways, they wont really mind it that much. Yehey to 1%!

[rooster69ph]

actually isang bagay na pumapabor sa mayayaman ay yun ibinabang tax sa luxury cars ... halimbawa yun land cruiser from 5m naging 4.65m na lang halos so mga 350k ang natipid.

 

pero mukhang utang na loob pa ng pamahalaan ang magbayad sila ng buwis. ayon nga dun sa isang senador na nainterview sabi nga niya yun mga high end o luxury cars eh madaming smuggled sa mga yan. so pag ibinaba daw ang tax bakit pa mag smuggle imbes na magbayad at maging legal ang parating.

 

sorry na lang si pobreng juan dela cruz na automatikong kinakaltasan ng buwis tuwing sasahod at sapul sa tax ng lahat ng bilihin. since napakadali niyang mabuwisan at walang lusot, tax him some more. that’s the easiest and sure bet way to generate revenues for the gov’t.

 

is that what social equality is all about?

[perfectstranger]

kung alam nilang rampant ang smuggling then why don't they address that problem? tanga lang talaga kahit sa high school di uubra ang kanyang logic. it's sad that most in power right now are intellectually challenged, or they think that the citizens are that dumb.

 

perhaps both.

[rooster69ph]

are they dumb or playing dumb?

 

parang tax sa mining ... una mataas talaga ipapataw na buwis. pag dating sa bicam at lumabas yun final version ayun binaba. di naman siguro kaila sino ang nasa mining.

 

but yun pinakanakakapagtaka the president has the right to veto and yet walang napuna? dumb or really dumb?

[Joblow]

actually isang bagay na pumapabor sa mayayaman ay yun ibinabang tax sa luxury cars ... halimbawa yun land cruiser from 5m naging 4.65m na lang halos so mga 350k ang natipid.

 

pero mukhang utang na loob pa ng pamahalaan ang magbayad sila ng buwis. ayon nga dun sa isang senador na nainterview sabi nga niya yun mga high end o luxury cars eh madaming smuggled sa mga yan. so pag ibinaba daw ang tax bakit pa mag smuggle imbes na magbayad at maging legal ang parating.

 

sorry na lang si pobreng juan dela cruz na automatikong kinakaltasan ng buwis tuwing sasahod at sapul sa tax ng lahat ng bilihin. since napakadali niyang mabuwisan at walang lusot, tax him some more. that’s the easiest and sure bet way to generate revenues for the gov’t.

 

is that what social equality is all about?

 

Yun nga kagandahan noon, since sa mga goods nagkaroon ng tax, kahit mayayaman magbabayad na rin ng tax. Marami kayang mayayaman ang bababa ng binabayarang income tax dahil maraming "legal" way para makaiwas o mapapababa ng income tax

[perfectstranger]

pinipilit pa rin ang master stroke kuno. lol

 

puwede naman magpost ng counter arguments kung meron man. hindi magbabago ang masamang epekto sa taong bayan kahit ilang beses pa basahin yan ng paulit ulit. di ko talaga maintindihan kung bakit gusto ng iba lokohin ang kanilang sarili.

[rooster69ph]

Yun nga kagandahan noon, since sa mga goods nagkaroon ng tax, kahit mayayaman magbabayad na rin ng tax. Marami kayang mayayaman ang bababa ng binabayarang income tax dahil maraming "legal" way para makaiwas o mapapababa ng income tax

you did not get the point ...ang sinasabi dito hindi naman masama ang train except di lahat dito eh “tama” at yun sana ang nai veto ng pangulo o di kaya itinama.

 

halimbawa, sabi nga natin kung ang purpose ng train is to generate more income through additional excise tax on vehicles in general then why decrease excise tax rate on luxury vehicles after increasing those on vehicles with lower value? dahil sa smuggling? kasi ang pagiisip nila madalas ang luxury vehicles ang ipinapasok sa illegal na paraan para makaiwas sa mataas na buwis so pag ibinaba baka mahikayat magbayad? wow! hindi ba yun dapat ang binigyan nila ng pansin kung paano masugpo ang smugling.

 

yun na lang income tax ... yun mga maliliit ang kinikita na swelduhan walang ligtas yan sa buwis kasi automatic na nawiwithold na buwis samantalang yun mga negosyante they do tax management or at wost evade taxes on whatever arising tax liabilities. even those higher ups in the corporate world, yun iba sa sinasahid nila are disguised in the form of allowance or representation para lang maging non taxable.

 

bottomline, tax is not bad as long as it will be put into good use and equitable. in this case the latter is in question ... as to some of the items in the train.

[rooster69ph]

 

Giving more take-home pay to the workers is indeed a master stroke. It would stimulate the local economy with increased buying power of the people.

 

In basic theory that is correct.

 

But in this case while net take home pay will increase so does prices of goods and services bec of direct and indirect effect of train. for example sa gasoline excise tax lang na halos 3 pesos per liter. But that will also have an indirect impact on the prices of goods and services because manufactuters will now include this in their pricing. Will it really have enough impact left to stimulate the economy?

 

So what about those min wage earners na talaga naman no need to pay taxes before. Yun driver ng jeep na nagmahal gas pero ayaw payagan magtaas ng pasahe. How will their purchasing power increase? Liliit pa nga actually.

 

So on one end you have those who may increase consumption but on the oher end eh magbabawas nan yun di tumaas ang take home pay. Di kaya offsetting o best case minimal impact. I think the economic managers projected higher tax collection on the assumption existing demand is maintained. I dont think this is about pump priming the economy. Dont make it a stretch.

[perfectstranger]

bakit dilawan agad? puwede naman ayoko sa pareho. hehehe

 

but on a more serious note, I'm just pointing out obvious lapses and shortcomings. they can be defensive and assume all they want, but what I post are usually based on facts and common sense. in the end, we can agree to disagree if our thoughts are different.

[rooster69ph]

There are obvious lapses but nobody should dwell on them. Otherwise one is at risk to be labelled as a dilawan. Haters, troll etc.

 

However you are most welcome to highlight the positives anytime...everytime. regardless of one's political bias or preference.

[rooster69ph]

yun toyo ang binili malamang walang pambili ng sasakyan kaya walang pakialam sa epekto ng train ... ayun toyo lang naiuwi pero saksakan ng dami namang toyo.

[Joblow]

you did not get the point ...ang sinasabi dito hindi naman masama ang train except di lahat dito eh “tama” at yun sana ang nai veto ng pangulo o di kaya itinama.

 

halimbawa, sabi nga natin kung ang purpose ng train is to generate more income through additional excise tax on vehicles in general then why decrease excise tax rate on luxury vehicles after increasing those on vehicles with lower value? dahil sa smuggling? kasi ang pagiisip nila madalas ang luxury vehicles ang ipinapasok sa illegal na paraan para makaiwas sa mataas na buwis so pag ibinaba baka mahikayat magbayad? wow! hindi ba yun dapat ang binigyan nila ng pansin kung paano masugpo ang smugling.

 

yun na lang income tax ... yun mga maliliit ang kinikita na swelduhan walang ligtas yan sa buwis kasi automatic na nawiwithold na buwis samantalang yun mga negosyante they do tax management or at wost evade taxes on whatever arising tax liabilities. even those higher ups in the corporate world, yun iba sa sinasahid nila are disguised in the form of allowance or representation para lang maging non taxable.

 

bottomline, tax is not bad as long as it will be put into good use and equitable. in this case the latter is in question ... as to some of the items in the train.

 

Well maaga pa naman para mahusgahan ang TRAIN na iyan. Nakasurvive naman tayo ng nagkaroong ng 10% VAT then naging 12%EVAT so I think ok pa naman tayo. Ang kailangan lang bantayan kung saan magagamit iyong additional income na ito sa goverment. Mas ok na ako dito sa TRAIN para maging simplify ang taxation system natin.

[rooster69ph]

 

 

hindi naman ibig sabihin dahil nag survive o nakapagadjust si juan dela cruz sa isang unjust and or unequitable na taxation eh magiging just and equitable na ito, right?

 

for example yun mga min wage workers na exempted na talaga sa pagbabayad ng income tax dati so walang epekto yun pagbaba ng income tax rate sa kanya under the train pero masasapul sa iba’t ibang additional taxation dahil dito. idagdag mo pa inflationary effect ng additional tax na yan sa goods and services. most likely mas pahirap ito sa kanya pero he will survive it dahil maghihigpit ng sinturon so my question is was it just and equitable to him?

 

yun nag implement ng 10% vat at itinaas ito subsequently to 12% lahat naman sapul di po ba? pantay pantay mahirap o mayaman. kung mahirap ka at 100 peso worth lang kaya mong bilhin you are taxed based on that amount. yun mayaman na 10,000 ang worth ng binili then based dun sa amount ang tax o vat na kanyang babayaran. e yun excise tax sa kotse halimbawa itinaas mo ang rate sa lower bracket pero pagdating sa higher bracket na mayayaman lang naman ang can afford ibinaba pa nila ang tax rate. si juan dela cruz na bumili ng peoples car o yun entry level base model na kotse napamahal dahil kailangan magbayad ng mas mataas na tax. nakabili naman siya pero nagsakripisyo sa ibang bagay. si congressman bibili ng land cruiser na nagkakahalaga ng 5m. dahil alam niya magkakatrain ayun ipinagpaliban niya at may sukli pa siyang 350k sa 5m na siyang ibabayad niya sana. ayos diba...you taxed the poor more ang tax the rich less.

 

sabi mo nga ok sa iyo ang train dahil malamang favorable ang epekto sa iyo at sa akin rin naman. eh paano naman yun nadehado?

again intindihin, hindi sinasabing masama ang train per se ... pero may mga ilan dito ang mali na dapat itinama. hindi mali o masama ang mag buwis pero dapat just and equitable ang form of taxation.

[blue+george]

pretext.

 

I know he's a good person and ruthless to non law abiding idiots. I know he's a good public servant, Davao can tell it all. in our society its easy to rant and f#&k a public servant, tsismaks and all. pero none in Davao. people there genuinely love him. his mouth is smoking hot. spicy and all. he doesn't give a f#&k about your opinion. he leads. period. whether you like it or not.

 

expectations.

 

I do expect our dear president to enforce the law strictly. I think that's what is missing. a law abiding society (rich or poor)

I expect discipline in all facet of government. I know you're firing a lot of people. I know that. can you please put principled people in those positions and not them ass kissers.

I expect better action from the government, so services can reach down to the helpless. especially the police and dswd.

I expect corrupt government people to be disciplined and be kicked out of office and jailed.

I expect drugs to die. pushers to users should go to jail. rot in jail or die in jail.

I expect that during your term, you will finish what you promised, what you started, what you are supposed to do.

I expect that during your term, you will endure the stupid people around you.

I expect that even the darkest of days, you will do what is necessary to keep this country rolling. to do what is right and just.

I expect that you will make all of us proud.

[camiar]

route ng mega subway project ni Du30... kasunod din nito yung upgrade ng napabayaang PNR.

 

 

I fully support this!

 

Finally, we are starting to move forward.

[camiar]

actually isang bagay na pumapabor sa mayayaman ay yun ibinabang tax sa luxury cars ... halimbawa yun land cruiser from 5m naging 4.65m na lang halos so mga 350k ang natipid.

 

is that what social equality is all about?

From January to September 2016, there were a total of 243,902 car registrations.

The number of luxury cars registered during the same period were 3,529 units.

3,529 vs. 243,902.

That's a measly 1.4% of total cars registered.

Sales tax reduction on luxury cars, if there's really any, does not make any significant change in the overall tax collection effort.

If we look at the big picture, TRAIN is OK.

Edited January 13, 2018 by camiar

[tk421]

Meralco is now asking for higher electricity bill as result of TRAIN...

 

Also some worrying effects of Train affecting our workers:

 

https://business.mb.com.ph/2018/01/13/train-taxes-throwing-fisherfolks-into-debt-trap/

Edited January 13, 2018 by tk421

[rooster69ph]

From January to September 2016, there were a total of 243,902 car registrations.

 

The number of luxury cars registered during the same period were 3,529 units.

 

3,529 vs. 243,902.

 

That's a measly 1.4% of total cars registered.

 

Sales tax reduction on luxury cars, if there's really any, does not make any significant change in the overall tax collection effort.

 

If we look at the big picture, TRAIN is OK.

so if sa 100m na pinoy eh 1% lang ang napatay dahil sa ejk o kung anu anong krimen diyan ...ok lang diba dahil 1% lang. kung sa kasamaang palad anak mo lang ang kaisaisang napatay dahil yan lang ang incidence ng death sa krimen naganap ok lang din di ba what is 1 out of thousands or even million cases. siguro madaling tanggapin ng maluwag ang pangyayaring ito ano?

 

but my question is, if the 99% need to pay higher taxes, whats so special about that 1% to be given a discount? hindi ba the right mindset should be the other way around tutal 1% lang naman ang higit na bubuwisan and these people can afford it actually then tax them more. sabi nga ni sen recto sa ngayon malaki ang incidence ng smuggling sa luxury cars. kaya yan 1% na data accurate ba yan tapos you will say it does not affect the overall tax collection effort...

 

yun ngang jeepney driver na di naman nakinabang sa lower income tax na train eh hindi naman pinayagan magtaas ng min fare kahit na sapul siya sa pagtaas ng diesel. so i guess ayos lang ilang porsiyento lang ba ang jerpney drivers sa total driving population na may panabla sa pagtaas ng gasolina.

 

gusto mo gumanda at lumaki tax collection tax mining heavily and yet bakit from the original proposal biglang namagic at binabaan kumpara sa original na panukala? alam mo naman siguro sino ang nasa mining at kung bakit nila ginawa ito noh? yun isang senadora na adbokasiya daw niya environment. go green daw ayun kaliwat kanan ang incentive like tax break. alam mo ba ano negosyo na yun batang batang anak ang presidente ng kumpanya solar panel sa batanggas. pumunta pa nga si digong nun binuksan ang planta.

 

yes lets look at the big picture...kaya nga nababanatan na anti poor ang train dahil sa mga nasisislip na ganito. walang nagsasabing masama ang paggagamitan ng buwis mula sa train. hindi rin masama ang magbuwis as long as it is just and equitable ....is it so?

Edited January 13, 2018 by rooster69ph

[rooster69ph]

Meralco is now asking for higher electricity bill as result of TRAIN...

Also some worrying effects of Train affecting our workers:

https://business.mb.com.ph/2018/01/13/train-taxes-throwing-fisherfolks-into-debt-trap/

that is the problem with blind followers they are like parrots which just repeats what the justification of the admin for train withoiut looking for other implications.

 

sa kanila bumaba naman income tax that will offset ... cool! e paano nga yun mga exempted na talaga sa income tax? di nga nila sinasagot eh seen zone. at hindi lang yan yun mga nasa labor force. what about yun nasa underground economy like yun pinakita mong mangingisda, mga small vendors, yun jeepney drivers etc.