Duterte's Presidency : Expectations, Controversies, Rants, Etc.

[tk421]

And fishermen/drivers/farmers are the ones who puts food on our table or takes us to our places of work so that we can provide for our families. I guess were just a bunch of ingrates...

 

Btw... Dutertes insistence he doesnt want a term extension nor want a no-el scenerio: joke or no joke? Hirap i decipher eh kasi we just have to discern daw.

[rooster69ph]

Btw... Dutertes insistence he doesnt want a term extension nor want a no-el scenerio: joke or no joke? Hirap i decipher eh kasi we just have to discern daw.

joke or no joke it doesn’t matter ...

 

just don’t have to take any of his words seriously ... as mabuti na to see is to believe ang mindset

[tk421]

Of his campaign to get rid of officials with "excessive" junkets: Joke or no joke? Kasi may tao siya mas madaming foreign trips na kaysa ibang tinaggal niya sa pwesto pero nandyan pa din kasi ka-DDS.

[tk421]

Sana maging 65 pesos per liter ang diesel dahil sa train para maaapektuhan lahat ng mga ungas ng lipunan matira matibay bwahahahaha

 

Oo nga, 'no.

 

Sige tignan natin kapag mawala ang mga magsasaka, mangingisda,at mga laborers. Tignan natin saan ka kukuha ng pagkain at taga gawa ng mga grand plans mo. I bet you wouldn't last a week without the service they provide you.

 

https://kodao.org/2018/01/10/ibon-infographic-how-train-would-make-poor-suffer-even-more/

[haroots2]

[tk421]

Pwde nga ilagay 101 percent. Lalo na kung walang source sa headline.

 

Fistbump mga kaDDS. Share natin ito sa wall kung talagang love na love mo si tatay. Lolz

Oo nga no? Paano naging 101% ang respondents sa survey? (82% + 13% + 6%). Galawang gaguhan. Haha.

[rooster69ph]

Hay haroots care to explain?

 

Feeling ko may source naman yan pero yan ang problema sa mga unsuspecting tards...nakakita lang ng pwedeng i-post na magpapabango kay lodi ayun post agad at di na sinuri ang datos. This may seem to be petty but could reflect the process.

 

baka kaya sumobra dahil sa umuumapaw na pagtitiwala. Lol

[haroots2]

Hay haroots care to explain?

 

Feeling ko may source naman yan pero yan ang problema sa mga unsuspecting tards...nakakita lang ng pwedeng i-post na magpapabango kay lodi ayun post agad at di na sinuri ang datos. This may seem to be petty but could reflect the process.

 

baka kaya sumobra dahil sa umuumapaw na pagtitiwala. Lol

 

Pinalaki pa ang issue ng rounding off.

 

 

https://www.sws.org.ph/swsmain/artcldisppage/?artcsyscode=ART-20180111180300

 

 

Edited January 15, 2018 by haroots2

[rooster69ph]

 

Pinalaki pa ang issue ng rounding off.

Cool ... rounding off 101/100

 

But i said the issue here is kung sinuri ba bago ipinost ... yun process na ginawa mo b4 you post.

Edited January 15, 2018 by rooster69ph

[haroots2]

Cool ... rounding off 101/100

 

But i said the issue here is kung sinuri ba bago ipinost ... yun process na ginawa mo b4 you post.

 

Kung ang alam mong rounding off is sa total lang kaya 101/100 ang pinost mo obviously you are not a math person.

 

Sample lang since hindi sila naglagay ng decimals

Posted Pwede kasing

82 81.7

13 12.7

6 5.6

100% 100%

Kung naglagay sila nang total ma i self correct niya yan to 100%. Pwede mo i try sa excel yan. At least may natutunan ka sa math,

[rooster69ph]

Sandali pinakita mo Net trust is 75 based on the chart ....pero dun sa isa 82-6 is what? Are the two relatee? Do the math yourself.

[haroots2]

Sandali pinakita mo Net trust is 75 based on the chart ....pero dun sa isa 82-6 is what? Are the two relatee? Do the math yourself.

 

dun sa 2nd chard 83 -7 pero bakit 75% and net trust diba ang alam mo dapat 76%? AGAIN its rounding off.

If that 1% rounding off issue is a big deal sa yo then huwag ka maniwala. Nandun ka lang naman sa 6% na distrust rating eh.

[rooster69ph]

Yun ang problema aren't they the same? One is saying 75 the other says otherwise tapos rounding off? Nasaan consistency nun data?

[camiar]

 

Kung ang alam mong rounding off is sa total lang kaya 101/100 ang pinost mo obviously you are not a math person.

 

Sample lang since hindi sila naglagay ng decimals

Posted Pwede kasing

82 81.7

13 12.7

6 5.6

100% 100%

Kung naglagay sila nang total ma i self correct niya yan to 100%. Pwede mo i try sa excel yan. At least may natutunan ka sa math,

Pinatulan mo pa.

 

Alam nila yan na rounded-off ang mga numbers. Their role in participating in this forum is not to discuss intelligently, but to muddle any favorable issue as well as highlight the negative issues regarding the Duterte government. Dyan sila kumikita.

Edited January 16, 2018 by camiar

[daphne loves derby]

ang babaw ng argumento, rounding off lang ang maibato para ma ilihis sa main point na 83% at 75% trust rating. May nakalagay na nga dun sa chart na correctly rounded.

 

langya mapapa facepalm ka nga talaga.

 

parang si Robert Downey lang na DDSFanatic na ngayon - "Di komo libreng maging tanga, aaraw arawin mo na"

 

 

hay naku..

 

 

[rooster69ph]

same survey different data. Maging vigilant naman kayo bago mag post para di mahmukhang atat lang kasi favorable sa lodi ninyo.

 

And even yun figures magkaiba

 

 

Yun sa table 82 - 6

 

Yun sa chart 83 - 7

 

So alin ba ang tama? yun nagmamagaling sa Mathematics ... pls explain bakit un isa nag round up yun isa nag round down.

[Magic Circle]

Based on my experience if you have the same raw data especially with decimals it really depends on how you create the chart. You can copy paste the raw data or just type them with or w/o rounding off the decimals depending on the person doing the chart.

[rooster69ph]

Based on my experience if you have the same raw data especially with decimals it really depends on how you create the chart. You can copy paste the raw data or just type them with or w/o rounding off the decimals depending on the person doing the chart.

agree... but in this case when were talking about % of the total, the total would and should always be 100 not 101 nor 99. basic math yan na alam sana nun mga nagmamagaling sa math.

Edited January 16, 2018 by rooster69ph

[rooster69ph]

ang babaw ng argumento, rounding off lang ang maibato para ma ilihis sa main point na 83% at 75% trust rating. May nakalagay na nga dun sa chart na correctly rounded.

 

langya mapapa facepalm ka nga talaga.

 

 

 

Kung ang alam mong rounding off is sa total lang kaya 101/100 ang pinost mo obviously you are not a math person.

 

Sample lang since hindi sila naglagay ng decimals

Posted Pwede kasing

82 81.7

13 12.7

6 5.6

100% 100%

Kung naglagay sila nang total ma i self correct niya yan to 100%. Pwede mo i try sa excel yan. At least may natutunan ka sa math,

dun sa 2nd chard 83 -7 pero bakit 75% and net trust diba ang alam mo dapat 76%? AGAIN its rounding off.

If that 1% rounding off issue is a big deal sa yo then huwag ka maniwala. Nandun ka lang naman sa 6% na distrust rating eh.

 

 

yun orig data net trust is 76 kasi 82 - 13 - 6 napansin na total niyan is 101. ang sabi ni haroots rounding issue ayun nga at nagbigay ng example pa nga at tama naman yun explanation.

 

now yun chart sabi net trust is now 75. kasi naman 83 - 7 na daw. tama naman ulit ang mathematical computation ang tanong kung yun una nag round up na to 82 and 6 supposedly as explained ni haroots, paano naman sasabihin na kaya from 76 naging 75 ang net trust eh dahil sa rounding na naman? so yun una nag round up then bigla nag round up muli? di kinaya yan pati ni exel pramis kaya pati yun exel sumuko sa kakacompute paano naderive yun na rounded up na to 82 ay naging 83 naman due to rounding again.

 

may rules ang rounding ... kung sabi nga kaya naging 82 dahil pwede kasing 81.7 yan talaga then bakit naging 83. same goes with the 6 dissatisfaction na naging 7. sabi ninyo rounding so may bagong systema na ba ng rounding? you can roundup again after already rounding it up? ie. 81.7 rounded to 82 then rounded again to 83 ... yan ang sinasabi ninyo right?

 

kaya nga tinatanong ko iisa lang ba yan dalawa kasi hindi maaring iba ang data kahit sabihin pang nag rounding yan. it may be 1% but ang sinasabi ng mga nakapansin may mali. math is a science ... 81.7 can be rounded to 82 but never 83 sa magagaling sa math unless yun nagsasabi at nagjujustify nito ay mas magaling at nakaimbesto ng bagong rules sa rounding. o siguro nga absent ako at mahina sa math.

 

btw mas malaki problema mo ngayon dun sa sinasabi mong corrected data sa chart coz now it becomes 83 - 13 - 7 or a total of 103 from 101. the total % should always be 100%. now sa “corrected” it becomes 103%

 

so after analyzing all the justifications ....ayun napafacepalm talaga ako.

[darksoulriver]

WTF na Survey na yan hahaha

 

 

 

 

[rooster69ph]

WTF na Survey na yan hahaha

 

 

 

 

What else to expect after "rounding" palusot was busted.

 

So paano ... facepalm pa more na lang ako.

[daphne loves derby]

ipinipilit pa rin ang mababaw na argumento.

 

eh ano naman kung may rounding off issue? ang binibigyang pansin dapat dyan ay yung resulta ng survery, mapa 99.9% or 101% man yan, the message and the result will not change that there is still HIGH TRUST RATINGS for the President until now.

 

wala na kasing maibatong iba para ma i debunk yung REAL ISSUE kaya maliit na detalye eh pinapalaki na, may masabi lang.

 

pure hater talaga..

 

Edited January 17, 2018 by daphne loves derby

[camiar]

 

 

yun orig data net trust is 76 kasi 82 - 13 - 6 napansin na total niyan is 101. ang sabi ni haroots rounding issue ayun nga at nagbigay ng example pa nga at tama naman yun explanation.

 

now yun chart sabi net trust is now 75. kasi naman 83 - 7 na daw. tama naman ulit ang mathematical computation ang tanong kung yun una nag round up na to 82 and 6 supposedly as explained ni haroots, paano naman sasabihin na kaya from 76 naging 75 ang net trust eh dahil sa rounding na naman? so yun una nag round up then bigla nag round up muli? di kinaya yan pati ni exel pramis kaya pati yun exel sumuko sa kakacompute paano naderive yun na rounded up na to 82 ay naging 83 naman due to rounding again.

 

may rules ang rounding ... kung sabi nga kaya naging 82 dahil pwede kasing 81.7 yan talaga then bakit naging 83. same goes with the 6 dissatisfaction na naging 7. sabi ninyo rounding so may bagong systema na ba ng rounding? you can roundup again after already rounding it up? ie. 81.7 rounded to 82 then rounded again to 83 ... yan ang sinasabi ninyo right?

 

kaya nga tinatanong ko iisa lang ba yan dalawa kasi hindi maaring iba ang data kahit sabihin pang nag rounding yan. it may be 1% but ang sinasabi ng mga nakapansin may mali. math is a science ... 81.7 can be rounded to 82 but never 83 sa magagaling sa math unless yun nagsasabi at nagjujustify nito ay mas magaling at nakaimbesto ng bagong rules sa rounding. o siguro nga absent ako at mahina sa math.

 

btw mas malaki problema mo ngayon dun sa sinasabi mong corrected data sa chart coz now it becomes 83 - 13 - 7 or a total of 103 from 101. the total % should always be 100%. now sa “corrected” it becomes 103%

 

so after analyzing all the justifications ....ayun napafacepalm talaga ako.

 

Pinahaba pa.

 

The difference between 81.7, 82, and 83 has no significance if the margin of error is +/- 5%.

 

Much ado about nothing.

 

Kelangan lang talagang mag post ng topic distraction para kumita.

[rooster69ph]

Tama it has no significance....but the original poster's observation is valid. Pinatulan ninyo and tried to argue/justify that it is simply a rounding issue.

 

In fact Yun mga hirit ninyo as if ang gagaling ninyo sa math at ang bobo ng kausap ninyo. Now kung kailan soplang yan argument ninyo saka kayo hihirit na immaterial/distaction un post

 

Enough said ...next time remember may option na seen zone nyo na lang.

Edited January 17, 2018 by rooster69ph

[perfectstranger]

if the total is wrong and numbers are inconsistent, then that's a credibility issue. it makes one question the validity of the whole information. some may go as far as saying the data is fabricated/manipulated. at least that's how it is in the real world.

 

ok, might be really a simple discrepancy caused by rounding off numbers. if that's the case, readers have every right to doubt and question the validity of what's presented. if something so simple is prone to error, it makes them wonder what other flaws/mistakes are there.

 

I'm saying this coming from the point of view of a working professional of more than 10 years. if someone uses rounding off as an excuse at work, none of my bosses from all 4 companies i worked for would find it acceptable. sa grade school tsaka high school lang yan lulusot. and maybe some mediocre college or university.