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Duterte has developed good relations with the local NPA in the Davao area. He thought he can do the same for the entire country. He was wrong. The NPA are localized bandits no longer following a strict central command. By now Duterte and his men have realized what many have known before - those oldies that call themselves the communist leaders are leaders of no one. The local NPA commanders run a business, they do it for money. They have no interest in peace.

 

Tama, wla nang hold ang mga oldies sa kanila. Kahit saan mo lagay medyu dehado ang ordinaryong tao eh, coalition government tapos may budget pa sila.

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Umayos ka nga ng pinagsasabi mo Camiar. Basa basa din bago bumatikos... mag backread ka sa ibang thread. may makikita ka dun. try mo tumingin sa traffic in manila thread.

 

galing mo mag-akusa agad eh. Basa basa din. dahan dahan sa pag-tuturo. tandaan mo. 1 daliri lang nakaturo sa akin. sa iyo 3.

 

 

Inuulit ko, kung di mo naiintidihan yung ingles na sinulat ko....

 

"... hindi ako nagpapanggap na ang mga sinusulat ko laban kay Abnoy at sa kanyang mga mapagmatuwid-sa-sarili at nanunuyang mga yellowtards sa forum na ito ay "constructive criticism".

 

Hindi rin kita pinangangaralan, pero, ka-ipokritohan lang talaga ang pagkukunwari na "constructive" ang mga pamumuna, lalu't lalu na kung ang mga salitang ginamit ay mapanuya, tulad ng "dutertard" para sa mga tagasuporta at "Duterturd" para kay Du30.

 

Pero wag kang magbago.

 

Ang mga tagisan ng ng iba't ibang kuro-kuro at idea na may halong konting panunuya ang nagbibigay ng anghang sa forum na ito. Ito nag nag-uudyok sa atin upang balik-balikan ang thread para mag-post ulit.

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Duterte has developed good relations with the local NPA in the Davao area. He thought he can do the same for the entire country. He was wrong. The NPA are localized bandits no longer following a strict central command. By now Duterte and his men have realized what many have known before - those oldies that call themselves the communist leaders are leaders of no one. The local NPA commanders run a business, they do it for money. They have no interest in peace.

 

 

Tama, wla nang hold ang mga oldies sa kanila. Kahit saan mo lagay medyu dehado ang ordinaryong tao eh, coalition government tapos may budget pa sila.

 

The old-school communist revolutionaries have lost their relevance after communists countries worldwide have returned to capitalist system.

 

NPA, the armed wing of the local communist party, has lost their grassroots support and has degenerated into banditry and extortion. Local people no longer offer refuge to them when they are on the run.

 

This is what the military has been waiting for. It is easier to track down and corner bandits than revolutionaries.

 

Joma Sison's worst mistake was to go on a comfortable "exile" in Europe. That move alienated him from the party members who are slugging it out in the hinterlands while he sips his tea in his European villa.

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As they said in the other thread: If Duterte says something, it's different from what he's doing (or done).

 

In other words: tiwala na lang. <_<

For me, I judge Duterte based in what he accomplished, not by what he said. So far, he's OK, despite his foul mouth.

 

I also judged your idol, BS Aquino, by what he accomplished, too -- or the utter lack of it-- Luneta Hostage mess, DAP mess, LTO Licence ID Computerization mess, LTO Car Plate mess, SAF 44 massacre, PPP non-event, LRT/MRT maintenance contract corruption and operations failure, etc... and the latest issue today, the Dengue Vaccine fiasco. He failed in all my criteria for an effective president.

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Kung hindi mo matanggap, huwag mo tanggapin. blah blah blah blah.......

 

Simplehan lang natin Camiar, kung ako ipokrito. eh ano ang mga sumasamba dito kay duterturd? SANTO?

 

Inuulit ko. Don't claim that you're giving them "constructive criticism" when you insult them in the same breath.

 

If you can just understand that simple concept, OK na sa akin.

 

Tanggap ko naman na you use this thread to insult the President. But to claim that you're trying to give constructive criticism? Pure bull crap.

 

Simple lang talaga. You admit to be a hypocrite with your false claim of giving constructive criticism, but then, nobody here is a "Duterturd"-worshiping saint.

 

So, that leaves you alone as the hypocrite.

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As they said in the other thread: If Duterte says something, it's different from what he's doing (or done).

 

In other words: tiwala na lang. <_<

Oo naman...tiwala lang a.k.a. Magbulagbulagan

 

Siyempre kaya nila idistinguish kung ano daw sa sinabi nun kampanya ang totoo o hindi. Nun tinanong bakit nagbubunyi nun lumabas ang gdp samantalang ni hindi nga naalala yun mas mataas na gdp nun nakaraang admin eh tingnan daw kung ano ang naging epekto sa tao. O ayan na nga ang sinasabi ng tao magmula ng naupo si digong pahirap ng pahirap ang tingin nila sa sarili.

 

As usual pag positive nakabandera na ang headline ... Pag nega tulad nito ayun ang tatahimik at parang mga walang nabasa o narinig na balita. Lol.

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For me, I judge Duterte based in what he accomplished, not by what he said. So far, he's OK, despite his foul mouth.

 

I also judged your idol, BS Aquino, by what he accomplished, too -- or the utter lack of it-- Luneta Hostage mess, DAP mess, LTO Licence ID Computerization mess, LTO Car Plate mess, SAF 44 massacre, PPP non-event, LRT/MRT maintenance contract corruption and operations failure, etc... and the latest issue today, the Dengue Vaccine fiasco. He failed in all my criteria for an effective president.

Let’s get one thing straight, though. Am never is nor never was a fan of the Balot Penoy.

 

And if we base on accomplishments, all presidents past and present have their own good accomplishments, it just so happens that Duterte’s bad accomplishments are the most dangerous of all since Marcos times.

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For me, I judge Duterte based in what he accomplished, not by what he said. So far, he's OK, despite his foul mouth.

 

.. and the latest issue today, the Dengue Vaccine fiasco. He failed in all my criteria for an effective president.

 

Baka sabihin naman huwag magturo at sisihin ang past admin dito sa Dengue Vaccine.Si Bimby kaya pinayuhan na pabakunahan ni Abnoy? :D

 

http://www.manilatimes.net/aquino-ordered-health-secretary-buy-p3-5-b-defective-dengue-vaccine/366550/

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Baka sabihin naman huwag magturo at sisihin ang past admin dito sa Dengue Vaccine.Si Bimby kaya pinayuhan na pabakunahan ni Abnoy? :D

 

http://www.manilatimes.net/aquino-ordered-health-secretary-buy-p3-5-b-defective-dengue-vaccine/366550/

May nagsabi na ba nun ikinatatakot mo? O baka naman naglevel up na yang talent mo. Dati kaya mo lang i sort out alin sa mga sinabi ni du30 ang totoo o hindi na siyang dapat paniwalaan o hindi. Ngayon kaya mo na rin mabasa at pangunahan ang mga hirit ng kalaban sa politika?

 

Pasensiya ka na kung hindi naturukan si bimby kasi pedia niya ang nagdedesisyon kung anong bakuna ibibigay.

 

Pero may tanong lang ako sa iyo ...sige na at in hindsight tama ka naman na palpak si PNoy sa issue na ito. Alam naman ninyo hindi dapat pala bininigay yan vaccine eh ang tanong ko lang ilang buwan na ba nasa posisyon ang idol mo bakit di agad-agarang pinatigil o ibi-nan? Not until now right?

 

2016 pa lang issue na ang side effect nito. Si gordon nga he even raise this in his privilege speech then. What did lodi do since then? Why only now are you raising hell? Ngayon mo lang nalaman ang issue noh?

 

Btw in sept 1,257 qc policemen and their dependents were given the vaccine. ilan pang nabigyan ng shots mula nang naupo si digong? Hindi ka ba concerned sa kanila. It could have been avoided if lodi acted on it sooner than later.

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May nagsabi na ba nun ikinatatakot mo? O baka naman naglevel up na yang talent mo. Dati kaya mo lang i sort out alin sa mga sinabi ni du30 ang totoo o hindi na siyang dapat paniwalaan o hindi. Ngayon kaya mo na rin mabasa at pangunahan ang mga hirit ng kalaban sa politika?

 

Pasensiya ka na kung hindi naturukan si bimby kasi pedia niya ang nagdedesisyon kung anong bakuna ibibigay.

 

Pero may tanong lang ako sa iyo ...sige na at in hindsight tama ka naman na palpak si PNoy sa issue na ito. Alam naman ninyo hindi dapat pala bininigay yan vaccine eh ang tanong ko lang ilang buwan na ba nasa posisyon ang idol mo bakit di agad-agarang pinatigil o ibi-nan? Not until now right?

 

2016 pa lang issue na ang side effect nito. Si gordon nga he even raise this in his privilege speech then. What did lodi do since then? Why only now are you raising hell? Ngayon mo lang nalaman ang issue noh?

 

Btw in sept 1,257 qc policemen and their dependents were given the vaccine. ilan pang nabigyan ng shots mula nang naupo si digong? Hindi ka ba concerned sa kanila. It could have been avoided if lodi acted on it sooner than later.

 

There is no medical conclusion yet on the side effect, so why stop on the program with no conclusive medical results.

The question here is how the deal was made, again turn a blind eye and changing topic will not save your lodi.

So ikaw alam mo na pala yung before pa pero tahimik ka lang to protect your lodi?

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Baka sabihin naman huwag magturo at sisihin ang past admin dito sa Dengue Vaccine.Si Bimby kaya pinayuhan na pabakunahan ni Abnoy? :D

 

http://www.manilatimes.net/aquino-ordered-health-secretary-buy-p3-5-b-defective-dengue-vaccine/366550/

Sa US malabo mangyari ito simply because they will have a nightmare dealing with lawsuits malulugi ang gobyerno and Sanofi. Think about the psychological effect nito sa mga magulang at batang nabigyan ng vaccine, after 2 years kapag nagkasakit (esp. high fever) na yung bata iisipin na baka ito yung side effect ng vaccine.

 

 

 

DOH eyes refund for dengue vaccine

By Mayen Jaymalin (The Philippine Star) | Updated December 5, 2017 - 12:00am

 

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2017/12/05/1765465/doh-eyes-refund-dengue-vaccine

There is no medical conclusion yet on the side effect, so why stop on the program with no conclusive medical results.

The question here is how the deal was made, again turn a blind eye and changing topic will not save your lodi.

So ikaw alam mo na pala yung before pa pero tahimik ka lang to protect your lodi?

Aba. Aba ok din sa palusot tong isang ito oh.

 

Sige busisiin natin ang issue ha. Dalawa lang naman ang pwede mong ireklamo. Una sa lahat siyempre kung dapat bang ipinatupad yang dengue vaccine program. Meaning dito papasok yun safety issues. At siyempreyun ikalawa kung may irregularidad sa pagbili ng mga gamot na yan.

 

Sa mga post mong nauna maliwanang pa sa sikat ng araw na primary issue sa pagbanat mo ay yun side effect o safety issu nito. Kaya nga may hirit ka na "si bimby pinayuhan na pabakunahan" at may hirit ka pa na malabo mangyari ito sa US dahil kaliwa't kanan na lawsuits ang haharapin nito. Ano palusot pa more? Lolz

 

Now if as you said ñun naupo si du30 eh wala pang medical conclusion yet on the side effect then hindi ba obvious na when the past admin decided it was in good faith dahil wala ngang medical conclusion that time. So anong basehan ng pangungutya mo? Simple lang ang punto kung concern ka na ipinatupad ng PNoy admin ang programa which sa tingin mo hindi dapat eh batikusin mo rin si Duterte kasi hindi niya ipinatigil agad at sa totoo lang mas nagtagal ang programa sa kanya.

 

Pero sige sakyan natin ang palusot mo ... So issue pala is how the deal was made? Ay sus yun naman pala pero dami mong segway na wala naman ni isa doon pumupunto o tumatalakay about the irregularities of the deal ano po. Pero yun ang issue sa iyo? Again what is irregular sa pagbili nun vaccine given as you said non Conclusive pa ang side effect nito? Now irregular ba dahil minadal ang pagbili? For me kasuhan ang dapat kasuhan. Besides if ang problema was how the deal was made isn't it so stupid to assume na ituturo ang sisi kay lodi du30 tulad ng pinagsasabi mo.

 

Alangan di mo alam yan kaya ngayon ka lang ngawa ng ngawa? Hindi rin ba alam ng lodi mo? Abay ang tanga naman kung ganon ano po? Issue na yan dati pa di sila umalma ni di nila kinasauhan si PNoy agad. Pero sandali sa pagkakaalam ko pinaiimbestigahan pa lang ni sec aguirre kung may irregularities di po ba and yet sa iyo irregular dahil kinukwestiyon mo how the deal was made. So ang tanong ko on what legal basis yan nginangawa mo? Lol

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Well lets just wait na lumabas yung investigation para makumbinsi ka. Pati nga si lodi Leni niyo is asking for an investigation kasi alam niyang may mali. You are right kasuhan na dapat kasuhan dito, umabot man ito kay Pnoy or not siguradong may mananagot dito.

yan ang galing sumegway pag nabuta ...una ang concern mo is di mangyayaribang ganito sa US kasi maraming lawsuits haharapin. Na kesyo pinayuhan ba si bimby magpabakuna. Lol Ayun nun nabara segway sa issue ng graft and corruption di mo naman nabigay kung ano basehan mo. Yan ba yun tipong sakay lang ng sakay pag tinanong saan ka ba papunta sabay nganga at di alam isasagot basta kung saan na lang mapadpad kasi makasakay lang.

 

Again hindi issue sa akin kung may corruption na naganap dito...kasi kung meron man todo suporta ako na maparusahan sino man sila. Ang pinagtatakahan ko bakit ngayon lang? At ano ang legal basis mo para manghusga. I want to hear your basis not that of the nbi or doj. Ikaw naman ang nag post diba.

 

Ang issue yun pangungutya mo regarding the risk factors. Meron bang pagkakamali doon sa panahong iyon. In hindsight one are always correct.

 

Yan ang hirap pag di kasi muna nagisip babanat na lang ng pangungutya ... galing mong manisi alam mo naman pala at that point in time non conclusive pa.

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yan ang galing sumegway pag nabuta ...una ang concern mo is di mangyayaribang ganito sa US kasi maraming lawsuits haharapin. Na kesyo pinayuhan ba si bimby magpabakuna. Lol Ayun nun nabara segway sa issue ng graft and corruption di mo naman nabigay kung ano basehan mo. Yan ba yun tipong sakay lang ng sakay pag tinanong saan ka ba papunta sabay nganga at di alam isasagot basta kung saan na lang mapadpad kasi makasakay lang.

 

Again hindi issue sa akin kung may corruption na naganap dito...kasi kung meron man todo suporta ako na maparusahan sino man sila. Ang pinagtatakahan ko bakit ngayon lang? At ano ang legal basis mo para manghusga. I want to hear your basis not that of the nbi or doj. Ikaw naman ang nag post diba.

 

Ang issue yun pangungutya mo regarding the risk factors. Meron bang pagkakamali doon sa panahong iyon. In hindsight one are always correct.

 

Yan ang hirap pag di kasi muna nagisip babanat na lang ng pangungutya ... galing mong manisi alam mo naman pala at that point in time non conclusive pa.

 

Wala naman kasi akong mahihita sa pag argumento sa iyo. My post are all based on the articles I posted. I know there will be more facts that will be revealed as the investigation are ongoing.

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Wala naman kasi akong mahihita sa pag argumento sa iyo. My post are all based on the articles I posted. I know there will be more facts that will be revealed as the investigation are ongoing.

Iba po ang walang mahihita sa walang masabi o maibigay na basehan. kasi naghihintay ka pa ng basehang masasabi mula sa souce mo and yet nanghusga ka na. Yun lang naman yun. so next time kung sasakay ka umangkas ka lang hindi yun ikaw pa ang nangungunang magmaneobra di mo naman kayang i-drive.

 

Bottomline objective mo which is to badmouth lang yun kinaiinisan mong si penoy unfortunately it backfired di mo kasi pinagisipan eh.

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Iba po ang walang mahihita sa walang masabi o maibigay na basehan. kasi naghihintay ka pa ng basehang masasabi mula sa souce mo and yet nanghusga ka na. Yun lang naman yun. so next time kung sasakay ka umangkas ka lang hindi yun ikaw pa ang nangungunang magmaneobra di mo naman kayang i-drive.

 

Bottomline objective mo which is to badmouth lang yun kinaiinisan mong si penoy unfortunately it backfired di mo kasi pinagisipan eh.

 

If you belive na walang nagawang mali yung Pnoy admin then wala na akong magagawa doon. Like I said my basis is based on the articles I've posted. Wala naman akong magagawa kung trabaho mo lang is kumontra just t defend your lodi.

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If you belive na walang nagawang mali yung Pnoy admin then wala na akong magagawa doon. Like I said my basis is based on the articles I've posted.

Uulitin ko ha suportado kita kung may irregularidad. Ang tinatanong ko ano ang irregular?

 

 

Really? Kaya nga kita pinapaexplain. Dun lang naman din sa article umiikot tanong ko di ba ... where in the article did it ask kung pinayuhan ni PNoy na magpabakuna ba si bimby. Sa article din ba basehan ng pangungutyang ito?

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Uulitin ko ha suportado kita kung may irregularidad. Ang tinatanong ko ano ang irregular?

 

 

Really? Kaya nga kita pinapaexplain. Dun lang naman din sa article umiikot tanong ko di ba ... where in the article did it ask kung pinayuhan ni PNoy na magpabakuna ba si bimby. Sa article din ba basehan ng pangungutyang ito?

 

Bimby comment is obviously not from the article. May question mark ako dun diba? If you didn't get that comment not my problem.

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Bimby comment is obviously not from the article. May question mark ako dun diba? If you didn't get that comment not my problem.

Mismo! Pangungutya mo yun kay bimby samantalang alam mo at that time non conclusive pa medical study. Bakit di mo rin kutyain si duterte kung pinabakunahan niya daughter niya. May pinabakunahan din naman siya sa term niya diba?

 

And what about proofs of corruption .... proven? But you choose to believe blindly for convenience ...pagkakataon nga naman makasakay at mabanatan muli si PNoy.

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Mismo! Pangungutya mo yun kay bimby samantalang alam mo at that time non conclusive pa medical study. Bakit di mo rin kutyain si duterte kung pinabakunahan niya daughter niya. May pinabakunahan din naman siya sa term niya diba?

 

And what about proofs of corruption .... proven? But you choose to believe blindly for convenience ...pagkakataon nga naman makasakay at mabanatan muli si PNoy.

 

Wow Proven agad? Anything proven sa mga akusasyon niyo sa WoD ni Du30?

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Wow Proven agad? Anything proven sa mga akusasyon niyo sa WoD ni Du30?

Hahaha...yan ang hirap diba pag against duterte gusto mo ng proof o dapat proven bago maniwala pag ikaw naman ang hiningan sa akusasyon o hinala mo no need basta kasi nabasa mo. Ay hesus maria hosep.

 

So now alam mo na ano pinaggawa ninyong argumento.

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