Duterte's Presidency : Expectations, Controversies, Rants, Etc.

[haroots2]

Ikaw yung nagumpisa na argumetong dapat proven tapos sa akin mo ibabalik?

E yung sinasabi mong suporta kung may anomalya man, hihintayin mo pa muna maging final ng SC bago mo gawin?

Edited December 6, 2017 by haroots2

[tk421]

Well sometimes naman kasi the proof comes from the horse's mouth, so to speak. But then they dismiss that as "he's speaking metaphorically" or "it's just a joke" or "he just says it, but does he actually do it", etc. counter-argument. (this was also true during Penot's time, to be fair)

 

The reality bending powers is just Astonishing... pang X-Men nga ang dating eh.

[haroots2]

(this was also true during Penot's time, to be fair)

 

 

 

You wil never read that kind of admission sa mga solid na dilawan.

 

Wala ka ngang mababasang kahinaan ni Pnoy sa mga yan, at least mga DDS umaaming may foul mouth si Du30 and un statesman like conduct.

[rooster69ph]

Ikaw yung nagumpisa na argumetong dapat proven tapos sa akin mo ibabalik?

E yung sinasabi mong suporta kung may anomalya man, hihintayin mo pa muna maging final ng SC bago mo gawin?

Hindi ko sadyang binabalik ... but that's the reality. When you accuse you demand everything be accepted in face value but when you are on the receiving end arguments based on face value is non acceptable. Double standards

[rooster69ph]

The funny thing about this dengvacia mess is that it seems the current admin is trying to insulate itself from this mess by being selective just like what dutertards are doing.

 

While hundred of thousands lives are now at risk note that not all of them were administered during the past admin. note that while it was implemented during the last admin it was continued "upon the recommendation of the new DOH leadership" according to sen. Pangilinan.

 

Now baka argumento ng dutertards eh si kiko pala may sabi ...dilawan yan, bias. Naku po sa totoo lang the mere fact na hindi ipinahinto ng current admin at may nabigyan pa nito sa kanilang termino speaks for itself.

 

Also it is good to note that on july 2016 lumabas yun position paper ng WHO on dengue vaccine. In other words itong mga sinasabing risk o side effects pati na kung sino o kanino lang dapat binibigay ang vaccine ay nilabas lang jul 2016. Sino na nakaupo nun? Bakit di ipinatigil bagkus ilang daan libong katao pa ang naturukan.

 

Hindi ko sinasabing walang kasalanan o di dapat imbestigahan ang nakaraang administrasyon but hindi ba dapat yun current admin din? Are we hearing any brouhaha condemning the current admin on the issue on hand as well?

Edited December 6, 2017 by rooster69ph

[tk421]

The way politics in the PH works: umpisahan ng nakaraang administrasyon. Pag successful, the current administration will hijack it and get all the praises. Pag may anomalya o masama ang naging epekto, sisisihin yun nakaraang administrasyon. This has been going on for a long time. This administration isn't any different.

[rooster69ph]

Nothing new ...pag kinaya naku very competent kasi si Lodi, yan lang presidente na di lang salita kundi may ginagawa etc etc etc. pero pag di kinaya ay kasalanan naman ng dating admin yan eh they put us into this mess because of their incompetence.

[JFK]

Ang alam ko lang eh mas okey pa rin itong present administration kesa sa previous. Yes, may mali pa rin kahit papano but at the rate they are going mas okey pa rin sa previous. Lalong lalo na pag leadership pinag uusapan. Mga surveys na rin nagsasabi. Mas ok pa rin talaga kesa kay PNoy.

[rooster69ph]

Ang pinaguusapan dito who should be held accountable for the dengvacia mess ... Specifically putting the kids at risk (even adults kasi di ba may mga policemen at mga pamilya nito ang nabigyan din) plus kung may irregularidad sa pagbili. Its not about determining who is doing much better as president but to determine who are/should be held accountable.

 

Ang hirap kasi tulad ng ginagawa ninyo tuwing may kapalpakan turo agad sa iba kahit very obvious na your lodi should also be held accountable. sabi ko nga there is an attempt really to shield or insulate the present admin from any liability.

[JFK]

Re the dengue vaccine issue, it is really the previous administration that should be held accountable for it. Wala tayong problemang ganito kung hindi nila tinuloy.

 

This is a Duterte Presidency thread kaya ko pinost na para sa akin ay mas okey naman talaga kesa sa previous administration. Hindi perfect pero mas ok parin kesa sa dati. Sinabi ko naman kung bakit so hindi malayo sa topic ang pinost.

[camiar]

Ang pinaguusapan dito who should be held accountable for the dengvacia mess ... Specifically putting the kids at risk (even adults kasi di ba may mga policemen at mga pamilya nito ang nabigyan din) plus kung may irregularidad sa pagbili. Its not about determining who is doing much better as president but to determine who are/should be held accountable.

 

Ang hirap kasi tulad ng ginagawa ninyo tuwing may kapalpakan turo agad sa iba kahit very obvious na your lodi should also be held accountable. sabi ko nga there is an attempt really to shield or insulate the present admin from any liability.

Why do you even have to ask who should be liable?

 

It is clear who made the decision to fast track the purchase despite the DOH staff themselves cautioning against it.

 

Let your idol Pnoy hang.

[JFK]

Why do you even have to ask who should be liable?

 

It is clear who made the decision to fast track the purchase despite the DOH staff themselves cautioning against it.

 

Let your idol Pnoy hang.

Madami na ngang problema ang Pinas. Walang ginawa nung 6yrs. nila. Gumawa pa at nagdadag ng problema. May bahid pang corruption hindi lang dito sa dengue vaccine pati sa MRT situation. Meron pa silang 'Walang mahirap kung walang corrupt' Yung kayo ang boss ko ay sa totoo lang ay Kami ang Boss Dito. Malayo sya leadership ni DU30. Malayong malayo. At mahal na mahal sya ng mga AFP at PNP. High morale sila ngayon because of DU30. Si PNoy tamad, incompetent, insincere and insensitive talaga. Kaya talagang worst president and worst administration ever.

Why do you even have to ask who should be liable?

 

It is clear who made the decision to fast track the purchase despite the DOH staff themselves cautioning against it.

 

Let your idol Pnoy hang.

Madami na ngang problema ang Pinas. Walang ginawa nung 6yrs. nila. Gumawa pa at nagdadag ng problema. May bahid pang corruption hindi lang dito sa dengue vaccine pati sa MRT situation. Meron pa silang 'Walang mahirap kung walang corrupt' Yung kayo ang boss ko ay sa totoo lang ay Kami ang Boss Dito. Malayo sya leadership ni DU30. Malayong malayo. At mahal na mahal sya ng mga AFP at PNP. High morale sila ngayon because of DU30. Si PNoy tamad, incompetent, insencere and insensitive talaga. Kaya talagang worst president and worst administration ever. Edited December 7, 2017 by JFK

[JFK]

Yung present administration pa ngayon ang nag aayos ng problemang ginawa nila nung panahon nila.

 

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/12/07/17/philippines-to-seek-refund-sue-sanofi-over-dengue-vaccine-health-chief

[artgonsalves35]

I hope this government will be Clean, but what's happening right now is opposite. Too many controversies arises. Too much killing in the streets which is scary!

[rooster69ph]

Why do you even have to ask who should be liable?

 

It is clear who made the decision to fast track the purchase despite the DOH staff themselves cautioning against it.

 

Let your idol Pnoy hang.

Simple lang ... kasi dutertards are feasting on the issue wherein lives of children are endangered bec the dengue vaccine program mess. Am not saying the past admin is free of any liability but truth be told duterte should have stop the program given that there was already a position paper released. Ang problema either hindi pinansin o nalusutan at pinagpatuloy. Ngayon hugas kamay at nagtuturo na pinangungunahan ang pagdedepensa ng dutertards

[camiar]

Simple lang ... kasi dutertards are feasting on the issue wherein lives of children are endangered bec the dengue vaccine program mess. Am not saying the past admin is free of any liability but truth be told duterte should have stop the program given that there was already a position paper released. Ang problema either hindi pinansin o nalusutan at pinagpatuloy. Ngayon hugas kamay at nagtuturo na pinangungunahan ang pagdedepensa ng dutertards

Hindi sila naghuhugas kamay at nagtuturo.

 

Inaayos nila ngayon ang problema at dadalhin sa korte ang mga lalabas na may kasalanan.

 

They are even talking of filing a class suit vs. Sanofi.

 

Para sa akin, turukan na lang nga dengue vaccine sina Pnoy, Mar, Abad, Garin, at ang lahat ng Liberal party politicians, quits na.

[rooster69ph]

Hindi sila naghuhugas kamay at nagtuturo.

 

Inaayos nila ngayon ang problema at dadalhin sa korte ang mga lalabas na may kasalanan.

 

They are even talking of filing a class suit vs. Sanofi.

 

Para sa akin, turukan na lang nga dengue vaccine sina Pnoy, Mar, Abad, Garin, at ang lahat ng Liberal party politicians, quits na.

Inaayos ang problema? Dapat lang ... Ilan ba ang naturukan nila considering lumabas na pagupo nila yun position paper? Tapos tinuloy pa nila imbes na ipatigil.

 

Sino ang mas inutil yun nagturok na wala pa yun position paper o yun nagturok despite na may position paper na? Wag magtangatangahan ha

[Bolj]

The hype is real, imo 2 parts ang problema:

 

The purchase itself ( process of purchase )

The continue of its usage

[Bolj]

Tao lang si digong, magkakamali rin syempre. And 6 years lang isang termino. Wag mag over expect. Pero pag pinagtabi mo si pnoy n digong, nagmumukhang sobrang eletista at puro hangin lang si pnoy.

Wag niyo na pag usapan ang partido partido, kasi palipat lipat naman lahat ng myembro niyan.

Presidente sa presidente, sino mas malaki bayag? Sino mas madali intindihin? Hindi yun porma porma lang.

Yes may palpak di. Naman si dutz pero kung e compare mo yan sa past 5 presidents, may kalalagyan yung lima. This coming from a former dilawan.

[Lyse]

Yes may palpak di. Naman si dutz pero kung e compare mo yan sa past 5 presidents, may kalalagyan yung lima. This coming from a former dilawan.

I also voted for the whole LP candidates from President up to Mayors during the 2010 elections. Dun lang ako nag sisi ng husto sa boto ko.

 

Mas dumami yung mga self-entitled na brats na mahilig manisi at ayaw umako ng responsibilidad, sa News hindi lilipas ang isang gabi nang walang binabalitang namatay dahil sa Riding in Tandem at naka categorize pa nuon kung anong cause of death (ngayon basta namatay "EJK" agad), lumala yung mga holdapan, corruption mas lumala. Meron pang "Kayo ang boss ko". pfft!

 

Kung tutuusin mas marami pang nangyaring maganda nung panahon ni GMA kesa sa panahon ni PNOY kahit na tadtad ng scandals/corruption yung panhon ni GMA.

 

Yung mga infra projects sa panahon ni Pnoy, hindi matuloy tuloy dahil sa corruption eh lahat gusto may kickback, ngayon lang nag resume ng maayos. Kaya nakakainis lang mag basa ng mga comment kugn kanino yung credits mapupunta, pero kung tutuusin parehas may naiambag yung dalawang Presidente sa pag kakatapos ng Projects na na delay nung panahon ni Pnoy dahil sa corruption.

 

Wala namang administrasyon o Presidenteng Perpekto na magugustuhan nang lahat ng mga Pinoy, laging may mga kontra kahit sino pang umupo. Tinitignan ko nalang sa mga maaayos na nagawa at na contribute, so far si Dutae palang ang may kakayanang gumawa ng marami para sa Pilipinas.

 

However, yung mga accusations regarding EJK ay dapat mapa imbestigahan sa isang non-partisan independent body para walang masabi both sides sa ilalabas na result. Kung may kinalaman nga si Digong dito, dapat makulong sya, pero kung wala dapat malinis ang pangalan nya at makulong yung nag palaganap ng takot at maling impormasyon (#1. Media(Rappler, Inquirer)).

[rooster69ph]

Duterte 'hell-bent' on stopping corruption; bans Cabinet members from seeking elective postshttp://cnnphilippines.com/news/2016/06/27/duterte-hell-bent-stopping-corruption-cabinet-members-elective-posts.html "Sabi ko sa mga [i told the] Cabinet members: 'Do not launch a campaign here in the office if (you are) running for a public office or if you have plans to,'" he said. "Ayaw ko yung nakaupo dito na mag-kandidato kasi [i dont want those sitting in office here to run as candidates because they] will just use the public funds and the time and the effort of the government just to campaign to win." Duterte noted that some of his Cabinet appointees belong to his generation, and he had a message for them: "We retire all together. Tama na ito, binigay na ng Diyos 'to. [This (government position) is enough, it's what God has given.]

 

Hindi ba napapabalitang tatakbong senador yun bagong itinalagang tagapagsalita ng pangulo. What a way to gain exposure and be known by constantly being on the limelight as the job requires it.

 

Isama mo pa diyan si Mocha at si Francis Tolentino. http://politics.com.ph/aid-2019-polls-duterte-appoints-francis-tolentino-political-adviser/

 

That is 3 out of the initial 6 nominated by the party to run for senator.

Edited December 11, 2017 by rooster69ph

[Lyse]

Hindi ba napapabalitang tatakbong senador yun bagong itinalagang tagapagsalita ng pangulo. What a way to gain exposure and be known by constantly being on the limelight as the job requires it.

 

Isama mo pa diyan si Mocha at si Francis Tolentino. http://politics.com.ph/aid-2019-polls-duterte-appoints-francis-tolentino-political-adviser/

 

That is 3 out of the initial 6 nominated by the party to run for senator.

 

Nung nag MRT with media si Harry Roque, dun palang alam na. Regarding kay Mocha, I doubt na tatakbo talaga sya, there's no way!

[rooster69ph]

More than kung tatakbo o hindi ang isang Mocha mas magandang tuunan ng pansin kung ano yun sinabi ni du30 dati sa nangyayari ngayon regarding sa pag ban ng cabinet appointees from seeking elective post.

 

Ano na naman ang palusot? Joke time uli di dapat seryosohin?

[daphne loves derby]

Hindi ba napapabalitang tatakbong senador yun bagong itinalagang tagapagsalita ng pangulo. What a way to gain exposure and be known by constantly being on the limelight as the job requires it.

 

Isama mo pa diyan si Mocha at si Francis Tolentino. http://politics.com.ph/aid-2019-polls-duterte-appoints-francis-tolentino-political-adviser/

 

That is 3 out of the initial 6 nominated by the party to run for senator.

 

magandang ipaalala ngayon yan dun sa mga may balak ngang tumakbo at ibalik ng media ke du30 yang sinabi nya na yan.

another one of those inconsistent blunders.

 

at the end of the day, kumandidato man sila o hindi, its still the voters (us) who will decide. Just need to intensify the information campaign of awareness para hindi manalo si mocha at roque.

[Bolj]

magandang ipaalala ngayon yan dun sa mga may balak ngang tumakbo at ibalik ng media ke du30 yang sinabi nya na yan.

another one of those inconsistent blunders.

 

at the end of the day, kumandidato man sila o hindi, its still the voters (us) who will decide. Just need to intensify the information campaign of awareness para hindi manalo si mocha at roque.

 

The funny thing here is they equate pro dutz people as pro mocha and roque automatically.