Traffic Problem In Metro Manila (Merged Thread)

[blackkeng]

discipline is the key! but i also agree that fixing the mass transportation will help!

[thegod]

Yes discipline, but it is only one of the keys. The problem for most drivers in the Philippines is ignorance of road rules since most have acquired licenses without passing an assessment from the LTO.

 

Now another problem wherein traffic problem is compounded, is the problem on how our government build road infrastructure. Everything is half baked. Roads are built without proper planning. Roads that should have been built years ago are only being built today and these roads are not anymore at an efficient capacity. They are not applicable anymore during the time of construction. Most or I think all of the time, after a road has been built, the public is allowed to use the newly built road in anyhow the public sees fit. There must be road policies that should guided the public on how to properly use the road.

 

Would you think only here in Philippines, road markings are not that important? They are so many cases wherein road markings are almost indistinguishable. Also road signs are lacking and to an extent absent. DPWH can build complete roads up to standards but how we use these roads is a matter of preference for the MMDA and LGU.

 

This leads us to enforcement, imagine a road rule or policy does not jive at all with what the infrastructure is built for. Could we blame the traffic enforcers of the MMDA or LGU, maybe yes for the corrupt ones, but most of these enforcers are limited to what is thrown at them in enforcing. Most of them also don't understand if the rules they are implementing are actually appropriate. For example a road geometry with 3 lanes going straight evenly but with an intersection in between where left turning along the inner lane is allowed at the intersection but not allowed for cars to go straight. How stupid can the legislation be by implementing such rules. Next is the presence of U-turn slots along high speed road. Do we still consider safety here? Why is U-turning permitted for motorists to take the turn and just cross to the outer lane. Does this strategy defeat the purpose of blocking the intersection by replacing it with U-turns? Why would trucks be allowed to traverse an inner lane? Hmmm. Maybe people from the government are just guessing.

 

Now EDSA, C5 which are roads supposedly to would connect a city to another thru better travel times. But what happened? We cannot even drive in a straight line. We always tend to weave because there is always an obstruction in front of us. They say volume is the problem, but the most problematic here is the inner lane of these roads which are not allowed to be free flowing. It is very possible that we can have too much volume along these roads and still be able to drive at a constant speed, not a constant stop.

 

Another thing is the frequent condition of diverging lanes. Why is there an inner lane that needs to merge to the outer lane like along C5 before the elevated U-turn. Safety has been compromised here and not one from our government has fixed this for a very very long time. Imagine you are travelling along Bagong Ilog flyover then you need to slow down up to an abrupt stop just to merge to the outer lane. Good thing is we Filipinos have good reaction time.

 

It is about time that we design roads basing on standards. The LGUs have their own color coded street signs which are different from the other LGU, usually the color relative to the elected politician. Lane marking are nowhere to be found. LGUs do not follow what is prescribed by DPWH or the International Standards.

 

These are just few of what we are experiencing. Napakadaming problema at nagpatong patong na.

 

So what is really the problem here. There is something wrong with the government. How are we to follow if the one wished to be followed is flawed. Flawed infrastructure, wrong road geometry, lacking lane markings and street signs, road policies that are out of place, ignorant drivers, etc.

 

Now let us first make an appropriate infrastructure by implementing complete and well studied projects and by rehabilitating existing road networks. We need to educate drivers by forcing to retake the driver's license assessment both in written and practical tests. If these will be followed, enforcement would be so easy.

 

Mahaba na ata. Marami pa sana akong isheshare kaya lang baka mobore na kayo.

 

Let this be a food for out thoughts. I hope there is somebody from the government here. Hehe.

[TheAxe]

More Cars Less Parking

 

coding isang car

bili ng isa

coding ulit ung isa

bili ulit

coding na nman

bili ulit

 

cars now a days selling like hotcakes in the street

 

result traffic

 

Mas marami ng private vehicle kesa public

 

and thats the case

 

if the Gov had control the

 

distributor or car dealer

 

the result is less tax that affect the salary or the kickback of many politician

public servant

 

so what to do?

 

nga nga?

 

 

[Gwen Morales]

Mas magandang mass transport system.

 

Magdadala ka pa ba ng sasakyan kung kumportable at mabilis naman mag tren?

 

Hindi naten makokontrol pag dami ng sasakyan. Maiimpluwensyahan lang sa paggamit neto.

[camiar]

How to solve traffic problem? Change the drivers' behavior.

 

https://www.facebook.com/amazingcarsmachines/videos/128144131129697/

[kyliebog]

Sa ikauunlad ng bayan bisikleta ang kailangan- ariel ureta

[borrisferi]

strict screening of drivers and improved public transpo

[camiar]

Kumusta na MRT LRT at traffic sa Pinas sa panahon ni tatay digong? Mahigit one year na. Sana maging ok na

Basahin mo ito...

 

http://www.philstar.com/opinion/2017/07/28/1722110/overweight-dalian-trains-will-crush-mrt-3-tracks :

 

The MRT-3 manager for expansion and operations is gone. But the bungles attributed to him linger. Deo Manalo was among the transport officials behind the P3.8-billion indent in 2013 of 48 coaches from China. In breach of contract, the units arrived late, defective, without basic signaling, and untested for 5,000 km. More defects are being discovered only now:

• The coaches are 3,300 tons too heavy. Specifications were for a weight of 46,300 tons for the 48 coaches. What Dalian Corp. delivered totaled 49,600 tons. The tonnage carefully had been calculated for the tracks to carry daily not only the 48 new coaches but the 72 existing units as well. The overweight (900 tons would have been tolerable) will wear out faster the tracks and consequently all the coaches’ wheels. Rides will be bumpy, maintenance costlier, and track replacement oftener.

• The under-chassis are unfit for the existing giant pit jack at the MRT-3 repair yard. Dalian deviated from the specified dimensions and features to be copied from the 72 older Czech-made coaches. The new units cannot be driven up the hundred-million-peso jack for periodic inspection and upkeep of the bogey frames, wheels, and brakes. There is no space at the depot to install a new jack just for the faulty trains. Mechanics have no elbowroom to repair or replace crucial under-chassis parts.

 

• Test runs of 26 coaches so far belatedly fitted with signaling showed myriad smaller defects: leaky air-conditioners, creaky doors, flickering lights. Those can easily be remedied, but not the overweight and under-chassis mistakes. Returning the 48 coaches to China for remake – as had Singapore, Hong Kong, and Pakistan – is easier said than done. MRT-3 first must prove the flaws independently. Technical consultants don’t come cheap, at least P45 million.

Shabby contracts to which Manalo et al had locked in the DOTr are tough to untangle. Cohorts long have left: transport chief Joseph Abaya, undersecretaries Jose Lotilla, Rene Limcaoco, Juanito Bucayan, Catherine Gonzales, and Edwin Lopez, and MRT-3 ex-general managers Honorito Chaneco and Roman Buenafe. Manalo has been sent back to his original agency, North Rail. For two years now their Dalian trains have been inoperative. With no quick fixes in sight, half-a-million daily MRT-3 riders will continue to suffer train shortages, rough rides, long queues, and frequent breakdowns of the old units. Manalo et al shouldn’t have tapped Dalian to begin with; it had no track record making motorized light railcars, only engineless heavy ones pulled by locomotives.

The Dalian coaches were brokered by ruling Liberal Party-mates of Abaya, predecessor Mar Roxas, and then-President Noynoy Aquino. The LP men also were behind the sloppy MRT-3 maintenance since 2012. The present deal, a separate P3.8 billion for 2016-2019, is with inexperienced, undercapitalized Busan Universal Rail Inc. With trains breaking down thrice daily from disrepair, unfulfilled overhaul of 43 old coaches, and unnecessary total replacement of the newly upgraded signaling, it is obvious that BURI should be rescinded. Yet that too is next to impossible. The LP brokers and their DOTr patrons had seen to that. So they have the temerity to lie to and insult Congress investigators, defy present U-Sec. for Rails Cesar Chavez, and sue the exposers of MRT-3 irregularities. (Upholding press freedom, the Sandiganbayan recently refused to gag The STAR and this writer from any more exposés. Presiding Justice Amparo Cabotaje-Tang and Associate Justices Sarah Jane Fernandez and Bernelito Fernandez ruled that continued exposés were “imbued with public interest.”)

Chavez has withheld P36 million from BURI’s P550-million lump sum billings for recent months. No payments can be made for un-purchased parts or undone works. For that, BURI is blaming him for the worsening breakdowns. Yet in effect it is admitting shortage of the required capital to fulfill that huge a contract. Chavez also wants to scrap the needless P888-million signaling replacement. BURI is threatening to sue. Chavez is giving BURI one last chance to begin the long-delayed overhaul of 43 coaches. Yet, although it is in violation of deadlines, BURI is resisting the deduction of penalties and liquidated damages.

U-Sec. Reinier Yerba is studying the legalities. Firing BURI would require hiring a replacement on emergency. But no new firm might enter if DOTr doesn’t advance the $50-million outright cost of manpower, equipment, and parts. Procurement laws forbid such advanced payment. That makes BURI secure despite poor performance.

A way out could be legislation. Rep. Jericho Nograles is urging colleagues to withhold any more budget in 2018 to pay BURI. The contract is void from the start, he says, because the original 2015 bidder was Busan Transport Co. of Korea, not the namesake consisting of four Filipino dummies. The Commission on Audit also has pointed up numerous sloppy works.

Damned if it does, damned if it doesn’t. The DOTr must replace BURI the soonest, to ensure safe, reliable rides. If it does that, it risks lawsuits. That’s how craftily the government has been tied down. And it's the people who suffer.

[perfectstranger]

for now the best solution is to improve mass transport system so that people will opt to use it instead of driving their own cars. coding and congestion fees are not real solutions. panakip butas lang yan.

 

but how did it come to this? simple: poor urban planning. dapat matagal na pinagbawal magpatayo ng buildings serving as offices and malls in already congested cities. mga expansion sa urban development dapat towards north (bulacan/pampanga), east, and south. para hindi over congested ang metro manila. it's actually worse in cebu nowadays kasi 2 lanes each way lang ang version nila ng edsa. kung maglalagay ng mrt tig 1 lane na lang.

 

nasa kultura kasi natin yan very short sighted. no long term planning tsaka puro shortcut solutions. either di marunong o tinatamad mag root cause analysis.

[camiar]

Nice copy paste. But kumusta na ba LRT MRT at public transport, yun totoo ha? Hindi yun according sa Mocha Uson blog. Mahigit isang taon nang presidente, sisi pa din ng sisi sa iba.

Hindi mo yata binasa yung Philippine Star report.

 

Walang mangyayari sa MRT dahil sa katangahan ng Abnoy-Abaya-Roxas tandem.

 

Kalimutan mo na si Mocha. Wala ka namang naririnig na reklamo galing kay Du30.

 

Ang pansinin yung mga pagka-inutil at katangahan ng administrasyon ni Abnoy kung kaya hindi maresolba ang problema sa MRT.

 

Pati yung katangahan ni Torres sa LTO Car Plates, na hanggang ngayon hirap pa rin ma-solve dahil ang may gana pang mag demanda ay yung palpak na supplier.. Ganun katindi ang kawalang utak ng nakaraang administrasyon.

[camiar]

Ok tanga na si Abnoy at walang kwenta. Kumusta naman ang mga ipinangako ni Tatay Digzky noong eleksyon at ngayong sya na ang presidente? Alin na ang natupad? Not a fan of dilawan or any politician, pero this fanatiscm na nangyarari is a phenomenon.

 

so, tapos ka na sa punto ng MRT at traffic?

 

Tigil mo na yang pagtatanong sa mga pangakong napako diumano.

 

Alam na ng taumbayan na ang kasunod sa propaganda offensive ng mga dilawan ay ang kuwestionin kung natupad nga ba ang mga pangako ni Du30. Gasgas na topic na yan.

 

Baka mapagkamalan ka pang paid yellowist troll.

Edited September 17, 2017 by camiar

[juan t]

 

so, tapos ka na sa punto ng MRT at traffic?

 

Tigil mo na yang pagtatanong sa mga pangakong napako diumano.

 

Alam na ng taumbayan na ang kasunod sa propaganda offensive ng mga dilawan ay ang kuwestionin kung natupad nga ba ang mga pangako ni Du30. Gasgas na topic na yan.

 

Baka mapagkamalan ka pang paid yellowist troll.

 

 

 

Bawal kwestyonin ang gobyerno? Dilawan propaganda offensive na agad?

[rooster69ph]

Bawal kwestyonin ang gobyerno? Dilawan propaganda offensive na agad?

Siyempre ... Kung pangako napako what a better way to divert kundi yun kapalpakan o kasalanan ng iba lang ang pagusapan.

[rooster69ph]

Ok tanga na si Abnoy at walang kwenta. Kumusta naman ang mga ipinangako ni Tatay Digzky noong eleksyon at ngayong sya na ang presidente? Alin na ang natupad? Not a fan of dilawan or any politician, pero this fanatiscm na nangyarari is a phenomenon.

fanatisicm..

 

Or stupidity?

[camiar]

The fanatiscm is so real that you cant even question its accountability. The moment you did, you will be accused of many things. Unbelievable.

Not really.

You won't be accused of too many things.

You'll just be suspected of being a paid yellow troll.

 

You know, questioning the alleged inability of Du30 to make good on his campaign promises is one of ex-US Ambassador Philip Goldberg's recommendations on propaganda moves to destabilize and weaken the Du30 presidency. The oligarchy's yellow paid media and troll army has adopted all of Goldberg's recommendation. And you seem to be playing right into it.

 

read the full article about the Goldberg plot to oust Du30:

http://www.manilatimes.net/us-ex-envoy-plotting-duterte-fall-source/303868/

Edited September 19, 2017 by camiar

[rooster69ph]

Exactly. Pag pinuna mo si Tatay, automatic dilawan ka or suporter ng adik. Di ba pwdeng taxpayer lang.

Political bullying at its best ...its either you are with us or against us. May threat pa na kung di ka tumigil sa pagpuna eh you might be accused of being a paid yellow troll. Emphasis on the word "paid". This makes me wonder ano naman ang pruweba nito na basta umangal ka kay digong eh bayad ka? Dahil kaya sila ay laging bayad sa patuloy na paghalik ng kanyang tumbong? Kaya ayun ang akala nila lahat pera pera lang.

[camiar]

Exactly. Pag pinuna mo si Tatay, automatic dilawan ka or suporter ng adik. Di ba pwdeng taxpayer lang.

Wrong again.

Hindi automatic na dilawan ka or addict lover.

Hindi dilawan.

Hindi rin suporter ng adik. Is there such thing?

 

You'll just be SUSPECTED of being a paid low-life yellow troll. With emphasis on low-life.

[NooB]

Ang solusyon dyan sa trapik ay mga tren na hindi galing china.

LRT1 ok naman pero kailangan na ng mga bagong tren na hindi galing china.

LRT2 kritikal na din mas nangangailangan na ng tren na hindi galing china.

MRT3 flatline na, bumili ba naman ng tren na galing china ayun pinababalik. Problema hindi ata maibabalik at proven na de kalidad daw ang made in china.

[haroots2]

Bago mageleksyon galit na galit mga botante kay Pnoy dahil sa palpak na MRT. Ngayon mas malala MRT pati trapik, kamot ulo na lang ang mga nauto.

 

Solving the traffic is a long term process. Wala naman nagsabi na ma sosolve agad ito.

 

I can also suggest na magkaroon ng North Ave. Station ang LRT1 para connected na sa MRT, anndun naman siya sa original plans pero di ko alam kung bakit ito nawala. Nagpautang pa nga ang BDO ng 200M para dito. Gusto kasi ni SM na i connect yung station sa kanya.

[messersmith]

isa sa solusyon decongest Metro Manila ay paunalrin ang mga Provinces or magtayo ng Business District bawat provinces para ang mga taga provinces di na dadayo ng Metro Manila for Job at alisin ang Provincial rate dahil di nagkakalayo presyo ng bilihin sa NCR at Provinces

[daphne loves derby]

Bago mageleksyon galit na galit mga botante kay Pnoy dahil sa palpak na MRT. Ngayon mas malala MRT pati trapik, kamot ulo na lang ang mga nauto.

 

tell me, umaasa ka na masosolve ng admin na to ang trapik at MRT problem in its 1st year?

THIS..

 

could not agree more

 

Gaya ng sinasabi ni James Deakin

 

 

DISCIPLINE

 

Kahit pa anong schemes at coding ang ipatupad. Kung wala namang discipline ang mga nagmamaneho. wala tayong mapapala. san ba dapat magsimula

 

1. Sa bahay - parents should teach their children the proper thinking sa kalye

2. Sa school - teachers should remind their students regarding discipline

3. Driving school - instructors should teach their students the proper mindset when driving on the road.

4. LTO - Make the exams difficult so that those who knew the codes and rules can only pass. Making sure that the applicant really passed the field test is also important.

5. LTFRB MMDA - Implementation of merit/demerit points for the license holders is a must. The points should be processed autonomously.

 

 

Siguro kung makakaranas ng mga ganitong proseso ang mga pinoy. malamang ang babait na nila sa kalye.

[Joblow]

Sana implement na nila iyong no contact apprehension para tumino mga drivers sa atin. Tapos katulad sa ibang bansa, kapag nakarami ka ng violation, di ka mabibigyan ng lisensya for 2-3 years

[haroots2]

Its about time. Di ko alam kung bakit ito natigil 3 yrs ago.

 

 

LRT-MRT common station breaks ground

 

http://cnnphilippines.com/transportation/2017/09/29/lrt-mrt-common-station-groundbreaking.html

Edited October 3, 2017 by haroots2

[Freddie C.]

Mga tricycle hindi sumusunod sa batas. counterflow kahit saan. pati sa major roads dapat bawal sila.

 

UV Express dapat point to point lnag hindi parang jeepney ang pasada isang pasahero sasakay o bababa titigil sila kahit saan. di traffic talaga.

 

madami masyado mga bus. minsan wala pa kalahati laman nasa lansangan.

 

mga maliit na kalsada madami naka parada at naka harang kaya walang maayos na alternate route.

 

sa ikauunlad ng bayan disiplina nag kailangan. ang lumang kasabihan nung 1970's dapat ipatupad talaga

[jackhall]

there is just too many cars in the metro, and too few alternative for car owners to leave their cars.

 

more train lines and efficient bus system is the long term solution.

 

they should start rationalizing the bus routes, most of them are redundant