Traffic Problem In Metro Manila (Merged Thread)

[red60]

Ako hindi ko tanggap. Araw araw ako nag MMRT LRT e hahaha. But napansin mo ba na they didnt point fingers to the previous administration? Pwede nilang sabihin kakagawan kasi ni Abaya to e. Or ni Mar to e. Though syempre they wanted them held accountable for those problems. Ang sang ayon ako diyan. One solution to traffic is more coaches talga. Kung mabilis ang dating ng mga coaches, mas maluwag. Kahit may sasakyan ka you will still take MRT kasi mas mabilis and comfortable. If mas maraming coaches a. Pero if not. GRABE. Daig pa sardinas.

 

Didn't point fingers??? Dude saan kweba ka nakatira they have been blaming the past administration despite being in power for more than a year. They filed plunder charges against Abaya et al. Well sa totoo lang may kasalanan talaga yung previous admin pero at this point more than a year na sila parang lalong mas grabe pa yung situation. I think they should be held accountable. Pagkakaalala ko aayusin daw in 6 months mukhang mas naging worse pa.

[Jasonkidd]

I think I wrote there they wanted them held accountable. Meaning kakasuhan sila. At hindi ung puro salita na kagagawan ni ganito or ni gnyan. There is a difference. If puro finger pointing ginagawa, Mar et al won't be able to prove their innocence. Pag kinasuhan, then dapat may ebidensiya, witnesses and mga contracts na pinasukan nila Abaya na ipapakita. Now we'll see if the judgement or how they were charged. Dun pa lang ako magsasalita. Someone really needs to be held accountable at hindi ung puro kagagawan ng nakaraang admistrasyon without them a chance to defend themselves.

 

Honestly I can't say if it is worst or not. Taft to Magallanes lang ako kaya hindi ko ramdam hehe. But based on reports yes. Mas malala nga. It's the situation that is worst and not the contract or the coach that was purchased that they should be held accountable. Kasi ung kina Abaya is like they purchased a coach that is unuseable? And from what I've heard, Abaya is powerless against someone higher when he purchased the coach. So he doesnt have the authority to do the right thing. Well, un ang ugong ugong..

[Bolj]

I think I wrote there they wanted them held accountable. Meaning kakasuhan sila. At hindi ung puro salita na kagagawan ni ganito or ni gnyan. There is a difference. If puro finger pointing ginagawa, Mar et al won't be able to prove their innocence. Pag kinasuhan, then dapat may ebidensiya, witnesses and mga contracts na pinasukan nila Abaya na ipapakita. Now we'll see if the judgement or how they were charged. Dun pa lang ako magsasalita. Someone really needs to be held accountable at hindi ung puro kagagawan ng nakaraang admistrasyon without them a chance to defend themselves.

Honestly I can't say if it is worst or not. Taft to Magallanes lang ako kaya hindi ko ramdam hehe. But based on reports yes. Mas malala nga. It's the situation that is worst and not the contract or the coach that was purchased that they should be held accountable. Kasi ung kina Abaya is like they purchased a coach that is unuseable? And from what I've heard, Abaya is powerless against someone higher when he purchased the coach. So he doesnt have the authority to do the right thing. Well, un ang ugong ugong..

No amount of infrastructure of this administration could solve the traffic nightmare. Only by developing outside cities and decongesting mega manila and other key cities will do.

 

Did not vote for duterte, but anti duterte people saying those who voted for duterte because of his 6 months promises on drugs,corruption,traffic are dreaming and fooling themselves to believe it.

[haroots2]

No amount of infrastructure of this administration could solve the traffic nightmare. Only by developing outside cities and decongesting mega manila and other key cities will do.

 

Did not vote for duterte, but anti duterte people saying those who voted for duterte because of his 6 months promises on drugs,corruption,traffic are dreaming and fooling themselves to believe it.

 

I voted for Du30 but I never believed the 6mo. promise on drugs. About the traffic there is no short term solution on it. I believe federalism will help kasi other provinces magiging maunlad para decongest ang NCR pero hindi rin ito instant na mangyayari upon implementation ng federalism kung makapasa na ito sa congress.

[rooster69ph]

 

I voted for Du30 but I never believed the 6mo. promise on drugs. About the traffic there is no short term solution on it. I believe federalism will help kasi other provinces magiging maunlad para decongest ang NCR pero hindi rin ito instant na mangyayari upon implementation ng federalism kung makapasa na ito sa congress.

Tawag diyan managing your expectations. Now depende sa bias ng isang tao he can lower or maintain expectations based sa pinangako diba.

 

Halimbawa traffic problem panahon ni PNoy ilan sa mga dutertards panay reklamo ngayon ilan ang biglang nag rationalize at tanggap na sitwasyon.

 

That's the reality. Paingayan lang naman yan ... kung mas maingay ang mga anti PNoy natural ang maririnig natin dati un reklamo at ngayon yun mga papuri or at least rationalized acceptance. Eh may nagbago ba?

 

Laging argumento eh may ginagawa naman...kaya ayun sabi nga ni kabayan about sa reklamo kung bakit daw mas naging traffic or traffic pa din sa ngayon sa edsa eh may ginagawa naman daw mmda pero di naman sinabi mawawala traffic. Lol

[Bolj]

Tawag diyan managing your expectations. Now depende sa bias ng isang tao he can lower or maintain expectations based sa pinangako diba.

Halimbawa traffic problem panahon ni PNoy ilan sa mga dutertards panay reklamo ngayon ilan ang biglang nag rationalize at tanggap na sitwasyon.

That's the reality. Paingayan lang naman yan ... kung mas maingay ang mga anti PNoy natural ang maririnig natin dati un reklamo at ngayon yun mga papuri or at least rationalized acceptance. Eh may nagbago ba?

Laging argumento eh may ginagawa naman...kaya ayun sabi nga ni kabayan about sa reklamo kung bakit daw mas naging traffic or traffic pa din sa ngayon sa edsa eh may ginagawa naman daw mmda pero di naman sinabi mawawala traffic. Lol

The thing is rooster, like haroots most of pro digong that i know of in different forums and social media didn't vote for dutertz on that 6mos B.S. what anti digong people tend to always blab about is the 6mos that they "think" people voted for duterte. Sila sila or kayu kayu lang din naglolokohan.

[Bolj]

I voted for Du30 but I never believed the 6mo. promise on drugs. About the traffic there is no short term solution on it. I believe federalism will help kasi other provinces magiging maunlad para decongest ang NCR pero hindi rin ito instant na mangyayari upon implementation ng federalism kung makapasa na ito sa congress.

All i can say is d pa nila nagets mga katulad mo na bomoto sa kanya, ya tama ka sa decongestion about manila region

[tk421]

Tama naman talaga yun decongestion ng Manila as a solution, eh.

 

Pero as for Federalism as a means, I'm not so sure. On paper I agree with it. Pero it has a lot of potential to be abused. Basically, I don't trust these so-called representatives now.

 

Siguro i develop nila nang seroyoso yun railway system papunta sa outlying provinces para mag grow yun mga yun.

[rooster69ph]

The thing is rooster, like haroots most of pro digong that i know of in different forums and social media didn't vote for dutertz on that 6mos B.S. what anti digong people tend to always blab about is the 6mos that they "think" people voted for duterte. Sila sila or kayu kayu lang din naglolokohan.

Oh yeah? Quite literal ang take up. But di naman lahat ng bumoto eh di naniwala sa kanyang pinagsasabi di ba. Pero simplehan natin ang argumento ..

 

 

Kahit ano pa naging basehan ng pagpili ng isang tao sa kanya may kani-kaniyang expectations yan. Yun iba maaring naniniwala 6 mos ok na drug problem yun iba pinili siya regarless kung magawa niya ba yan o hindi kasi ibang issue ang inaasahan niya kay duterte halimbawa anti corruption. But malinaw naman batay sa survey mataas ang pagasa ng pinoy na he can deliver his promises pero dun sa latest survey hindi ba madami na nagdududa?

 

Maybe we should look at it that way. In general maybe expectations of what he actually can deliver is lower than the expectation of what he supposedly can deliver.

[Bolj]

Oh yeah? Quite literal ang take up. But di naman lahat ng bumoto eh di naniwala sa kanyang pinagsasabi di ba. Pero simplehan natin ang argumento ..

Kahit ano pa naging basehan ng pagpili ng isang tao sa kanya may kani-kaniyang expectations yan. Yun iba maaring naniniwala 6 mos ok na drug problem yun iba pinili siya regarless kung magawa niya ba yan o hindi kasi ibang issue ang inaasahan niya kay duterte halimbawa anti corruption. But malinaw naman batay sa survey mataas ang pagasa ng pinoy na he can deliver his promises pero dun sa latest survey hindi ba madami na nagdududa?

Maybe we should look at it that way. In general maybe expectations of what he actually can deliver is lower than the expectation of what he supposedly can deliver.

Oh yeah? Quite literal ang take up. But di naman lahat ng bumoto eh di naniwala sa kanyang pinagsasabi di ba. Pero simplehan natin ang argumento ..

Kahit ano pa naging basehan ng pagpili ng isang tao sa kanya may kani-kaniyang expectations yan. Yun iba maaring naniniwala 6 mos ok na drug problem yun iba pinili siya regarless kung magawa niya ba yan o hindi kasi ibang issue ang inaasahan niya kay duterte halimbawa anti corruption. But malinaw naman batay sa survey mataas ang pagasa ng pinoy na he can deliver his promises pero dun sa latest survey hindi ba madami na nagdududa?

Maybe we should look at it that way. In general maybe expectations of what he actually can deliver is lower than the expectation of what he supposedly can deliver.

Well actually a lot of those who voted for the guy are doctors, engrs, lawyers. Also some anti dutertz people here should also consider about their mentality. Pag labas kasi sa bunganga ng most anti dutertz dito parang mga estupido lang ang bomoto sa kanya which isn't true. And most of those intellectually inclined pro dutertz supporters did not mind that 6mos B.S. in the first place. So wag nyu pakain sa kanila mga ganyang one liner st*pid statements.

 

Did you read the questions for the survey anyway? Its quite subjective and the result can be given a different interpretation.

[rooster69ph]

Well actually a lot of those who voted for the guy are doctors, engrs, lawyers. Also some anti dutertz people here should also consider about their mentality. Pag labas kasi sa bunganga ng most anti dutertz dito parang mga estupido lang ang bomoto sa kanya which isn't true. And most of those intellectually inclined pro dutertz supporters did not mind that 6mos B.S. in the first place. So wag nyu pakain sa kanila mga ganyang one liner st*pid statements.

 

Did you read the questions for the survey anyway? Its quite subjective and the result can be given a different interpretation.

Tit for tat lang din naman yan ... some pro duterte are also guilty of such at times. Hindi ka ba nakarinig ng hirit na bakit di nagpasagasa sa train si PNoy sabay pakita ng video clip nun speech niya. Laganap sa social media yan ng mga dutertrolls. Sabi nga pikon talo.

 

Kaya nga yun nakakaintindi siguro isipin o tingnan natin ito sa kontekstong sinabi ko na ano ba ang orig expectations nun binoto vs realization. Magpakatotoo tayo hindi dahil sa preference bias.

 

Pero ako simple lang kasi ang paniniwala ko. Wag kang magbibitaw ng salita na di mo kayang tuparin. Unless you can assure me 100% ng bumoto hindi totally kinagat at face value sinabi niya Otherwise subjective din kung alin ba ang mapapaniwalaan o hindi. pag nagawa ang galing pag hindi naku ba't ka naniwala

 

 

 

Yun perception naman kung satisfied ka sa performance niya is quite subjective din anyway di ba

 

For example yun simpleng issue na lang kung nasayang ba ang mega rehab center eh iba iba batayan ng bawa't isa and each decide base on one's perspective anyway.

Edited November 23, 2017 by rooster69ph

[tk421]

Sumakay ng MRT3 si Roque. Not too bad daw. (With matching security escorts)

 

https://www.rappler.com/nation/189337-presidential-spokesperson-harry-roque-mrt-experience-not-that-bad

 

Galawang Kris Aquino lang nun panahon ni Penoy, ‘no?

[rooster69ph]

Sumakay ng MRT3 si Roque. Not too bad daw. (With matching security escorts)

https://www.rappler.com/nation/189337-presidential-spokesperson-harry-roque-mrt-experience-not-that-bad

Galawang Kris Aquino lang nun panahon ni Penoy, ‘no?

Epal move para sa political plans .... Ganun lang kasimple.

 

Si Usec Chavez nagresign na out of delikadeza. Siya yun nagsabi na he promise they will be accountable ... I salute you! But your boss? Hmp ... Well he said only the president can fire him. The president hasn't fire him. Does it mean pareho silang walang delikadeza?

[Bolj]

Tit for tat lang din naman yan ... some pro duterte are also guilty of such at times. Hindi ka ba nakarinig ng hirit na bakit di nagpasagasa sa train si PNoy sabay pakita ng video clip nun speech niya. Laganap sa social media yan ng mga dutertrolls. Sabi nga pikon talo.

Kaya nga yun nakakaintindi siguro isipin o tingnan natin ito sa kontekstong sinabi ko na ano ba ang orig expectations nun binoto vs realization. Magpakatotoo tayo hindi dahil sa preference bias.

Pero ako simple lang kasi ang paniniwala ko. Wag kang magbibitaw ng salita na di mo kayang tuparin. Unless you can assure me 100% ng bumoto hindi totally kinagat at face value sinabi niya Otherwise subjective din kung alin ba ang mapapaniwalaan o hindi. pag nagawa ang galing pag hindi naku ba't ka naniwala

Yun perception naman kung satisfied ka sa performance niya is quite subjective din anyway di ba

For example yun simpleng issue na lang kung nasayang ba ang mega rehab center eh iba iba batayan ng bawa't isa and each decide base on one's perspective anyway.

Same to you unless you can assure me na binoto nila siya by that 6mos thing we could assume all we want. At the end of the day we can disagree but dapat wlang bastusan ng ibang tao, dyan hindi umuunlad pilipinas

[rooster69ph]

Same to you unless you can assure me na binoto nila siya by that 6mos thing we could assume all we want. At the end of the day we can disagree but dapat wlang bastusan ng ibang tao, dyan hindi umuunlad pilipinas

Ibabalik ko sa iyo tanong at alam kong intelihente ka naman ... Can you assure me na walang bumoto kahit isa na naniwala dun sa pangako niyang 6 mos? Hindi naman sigurong mahirap maniwala na sa 16m na bumoto may isang tanga na kinagat yun mga pangako niya specially yun tapos ang droga in 6 mos, otherwise dun sa rally niya lagi niya itong sinasabi sa kampanya. Bakit pumapalakpak yun mga supporters kung di naman pala sila naniniwala na kayang gawin? Anong klaseng tao yang mga ganyan? Kung meron man dito sa thread na ito na binoto siya at napaniwala dun sa 6 months promise, sa tingin mo sa tema ng pagpapalitan ng mga paguusap dito may aamin na isa siya doon? Besides di kang naman yun matatapos ang problema ng droga in 6 mos ang pinangako niya di ba. Alangan walang naniwala dun? Halimbawa mawawala ang endo, nawala ba o mawawala ba? Hindi, now the Dole is rationalizing that kasi it will never happen in the strict sense. Again tell that to the millions of workers na biktima ng endo, tingin mo walang umasa kaya siya binoto.

Hindi kita paiikutin dahil malamang pareho naman tayong walang datos pero common sense na lang gamitin natin which is highly probable to happen yun walang ni isa ang naniwala o yung totally walang naniwala. I only need 1 out of that 16m na naniwala sa campaign promises niya kaya siya binoto at butas na argumentong walang bumoto sa kanya dahil sa mga pangako niyang di natupad o di kaya walang kasiguruhan. Walang masama sa pag assume basta realistic ang assumption.

 

Ganito lang yan bro ... Kung maayos kang kausap di ka naman siguro babastusin. Pero kung yun mga kausap mo halimbawa eh yun tipong hihiritan ka na puro ka kasi nega sa pangulo, what is there para sabihan din sila na eh kayo wala kayong bukang bibig kundi sambahin si duterte.

[tk421]

Ibabalik ko sa iyo tanong at alam kong intelihente ka naman ... Can you assure me na walang bumoto kahit isa na naniwala dun sa pangako niyang 6 mos? Hindi naman sigurong mahirap maniwala na sa 16m na bumoto may isang tanga na kinagat yun mga pangako niya specially yun tapos ang droga in 6 mos, otherwise dun sa rally niya lagi niya itong sinasabi sa kampanya. Bakit pumapalakpak yun mga supporters kung di naman pala sila naniniwala na kayang gawin? Anong klaseng tao yang mga ganyan? Kung meron man dito sa thread na ito na binoto siya at napaniwala dun sa 6 months promise, sa tingin mo sa tema ng pagpapalitan ng mga paguusap dito may aamin na isa siya doon? Besides di kang naman yun matatapos ang problema ng droga in 6 mos ang pinangako niya di ba. Alangan walang naniwala dun? Halimbawa mawawala ang endo, nawala ba o mawawala ba? Hindi, now the Dole is rationalizing that kasi it will never happen in the strict sense. Again tell that to the millions of workers na biktima ng endo, tingin mo walang umasa kaya siya binoto.

Hindi kita paiikutin dahil malamang pareho naman tayong walang datos pero common sense na lang gamitin natin which is highly probable to happen yun walang ni isa ang naniwala o yung totally walang naniwala. I only need 1 out of that 16m na naniwala sa campaign promises niya kaya siya binoto at butas na argumentong walang bumoto sa kanya dahil sa mga pangako niyang di natupad o di kaya walang kasiguruhan. Walang masama sa pag assume basta realistic ang assumption.

Ganito lang yan bro ... Kung maayos kang kausap di ka naman siguro babastusin. Pero kung yun mga kausap mo halimbawa eh yun tipong hihiritan ka na puro ka kasi nega sa pangulo, what is there para sabihan din sila na eh kayo wala kayong bukang bibig kundi sambahin si duterte.

One thing’s for sure. This one believed in the 6 months thing:

 

http://entertainment.inquirer.net/194269/melai-cantiveros-calls-out-duterte-supporter-for-rape-remark-on-daughter

 

But anyhoo... the present admin is still as clueless how to solve the traffic/mrt problem as the past ones... holding a presscon inside an mrt cabin... sus.

[rooster69ph]

One thing’s for sure. This one believed in the 6 months thing:http://entertainment.inquirer.net/194269/melai-cantiveros-calls-out-duterte-supporter-for-rape-remark-on-daughter

But anyhoo... the present admin is still as clueless how to solve the traffic/mrt problem as the past ones... holding a presscon inside an mrt cabin... sus.

I really don't care what people believe whether pro or anti dutertards ba yan ... Sabi ko nga subjective yan base sa leanings or bias.

 

Ako mas importante to held an official accountable for what he says or promised. The president said 6 mos. if he said that then he should be held accountable for it. Ganun lang kasimple yun. May pinagkaiba ba yan sa corporate world nun budget setting ang yabang mo kaya ang taas na goal ang nilagay mo. Come reconning gumagawa ka na ng accomplishment report Can you say bakit ninyo ako babatikusin sa goal na sinet ko eh alam niyo naman na imposible yan.

[Bolj]

Ibabalik ko sa iyo tanong at alam kong intelihente ka naman ... Can you assure me na walang bumoto kahit isa na naniwala dun sa pangako niyang 6 mos? Hindi naman sigurong mahirap maniwala na sa 16m na bumoto may isang tanga na kinagat yun mga pangako niya specially yun tapos ang droga in 6 mos, otherwise dun sa rally niya lagi niya itong sinasabi sa kampanya. Bakit pumapalakpak yun mga supporters kung di naman pala sila naniniwala na kayang gawin? Anong klaseng tao yang mga ganyan? Kung meron man dito sa thread na ito na binoto siya at napaniwala dun sa 6 months promise, sa tingin mo sa tema ng pagpapalitan ng mga paguusap dito may aamin na isa siya doon? Besides di kang naman yun matatapos ang problema ng droga in 6 mos ang pinangako niya di ba. Alangan walang naniwala dun? Halimbawa mawawala ang endo, nawala ba o mawawala ba? Hindi, now the Dole is rationalizing that kasi it will never happen in the strict sense. Again tell that to the millions of workers na biktima ng endo, tingin mo walang umasa kaya siya binoto.

Hindi kita paiikutin dahil malamang pareho naman tayong walang datos pero common sense na lang gamitin natin which is highly probable to happen yun walang ni isa ang naniwala o yung totally walang naniwala. I only need 1 out of that 16m na naniwala sa campaign promises niya kaya siya binoto at butas na argumentong walang bumoto sa kanya dahil sa mga pangako niyang di natupad o di kaya walang kasiguruhan. Walang masama sa pag assume basta realistic ang assumption.

Ganito lang yan bro ... Kung maayos kang kausap di ka naman siguro babastusin. Pero kung yun mga kausap mo halimbawa eh yun tipong hihiritan ka na puro ka kasi nega sa pangulo, what is there para sabihan din sila na eh kayo wala kayong bukang bibig kundi sambahin si duterte.

You are going nowhere with this, wag mong ipilit yang argument mo. Simple ang context ko, May mga anti dito na pag nag comment 1 liner statements na flame bait and ad hominem ang dating - clearly denying the fact that many who voted for him are intellectuals and its outright unfair to brand them as such.

 

2nd "kung maayus kang kausap d ka babastusin" - read the whole thread pag may nakita ka tanung mo sa kanila yan kung sino kinakausap nila.

[Bolj]

You got that right. Dapat walang bastusan. Pero brad, mawalang-galang na. Karamihan ng mga supporters ng present admin eh bastos. Nakikita ko sa FB pages kung paano nila hamakin ang isang tao na iba ang opinion sa kanila. May iba na sinasabi na pakita ang mukha ng tao para ma-harass nila IRL. Oo may mga professionals. Pero hindi naman sila professional kung makipag-tagisan ng opinion sa ibang tao. Its their false sense of security na dahil nasa internet sila, pwede nila gawin kung ano man ang gusto nilang sabihin. Na hindi naman dapat.

Brad kung tatanungin mo ang kabilang side - the feeling is mutual sasabihin nila, ang maggwa natin ay pataasin ang discourse sa mga reply natin dahil kung hindi...no comment nalang.

[rooster69ph]

You are going nowhere with this, wag mong ipilit yang argument mo. Simple ang context ko, May mga anti dito na pag nag comment 1 liner statements na flame bait and ad hominem ang dating - clearly denying the fact that many who voted for him are intellectuals and its outright unfair to brand them as such.

 

2nd "kung maayus kang kausap d ka babastusin" - read the whole thread pag may nakita ka tanung mo sa kanila yan kung sino kinakausap nila.

Ang pro walang ganun? Fine!

[conan the barbarian]

Mahirap na talaga masolve ang problema ng traffic sa metro manila.

[Joblow]

I really don't care what people believe whether pro or anti dutertards ba yan ... Sabi ko nga subjective yan base sa leanings or bias.

Ako mas importante to held an official accountable for what he says or promised. The president said 6 mos. if he said that then he should be held accountable for it. Ganun lang kasimple yun. May pinagkaiba ba yan sa corporate world nun budget setting ang yabang mo kaya ang taas na goal ang nilagay mo. Come reconning gumagawa ka na ng accomplishment report Can you say bakit ninyo ako babatikusin sa goal na sinet ko eh alam niyo naman na imposible yan.

How do you make them accountable, magresign? Mas mahirap yan, kawawa economy natin nyan. Kahitayaw ko kay gma saka pnoymas gusto kong matapos term nila. Kaya asar naasar ako sa mga file ng file ng impeachment noon hindi nila iniisip magiging impact sa economy natin

[rooster69ph]

How do you make them accountable, magresign? Mas mahirap yan, kawawa economy natin nyan. Kahitayaw ko kay gma saka pnoymas gusto kong matapos term nila. Kaya asar naasar ako sa mga file ng file ng impeachment noon hindi nila iniisip magiging impact sa economy natin

I don't think i mentioned anything about resignation. Madaming paraan how to held an official accountable ang aking gawin natin kung ano ang nararapat. At yun context ng sinasabi ko is kung papaano natin tingnan kung ok ba o hindi ang isang public official.

 

Ang mahirap kasi sa atin ang bias natin eh sa political leanings/personality kaysa sa bayan. Kaya ayun may mga nagbubulagbulagan o pilit na jinajustify ang idol nila kahit naman klaro na sablay

Edited November 25, 2017 by rooster69ph

[tk421]

How do you make them accountable, magresign? Mas mahirap yan, kawawa economy natin nyan. Kahitayaw ko kay gma saka pnoymas gusto kong matapos term nila. Kaya asar naasar ako sa mga file ng file ng impeachment noon hindi nila iniisip magiging impact sa economy natin

Still hasn’t stopped until now. Ngayon file pa din naman ng file ng impeachment, ah. Tayo pa din nagbabayad.

[haroots2]

Sino ba nangako ng 6months at nagsabing magrerrsign pag di natupad hehe

 

Any you believed it? Hahahaha