Traffic Problem In Metro Manila (Merged Thread)

[fatchubs]

Like I post here before, hindi naman yung totoong mga commuters ang mareklamo sa Fare hike kundi yung mga militante na walng alam kundi magreklamo. Kung ayaw ng mgatao yung fare hike, bakit pa rin dinudumog ang MRT kahit sirain. Ang nirerekalmao ng mga tao is serbisyo at hindi ang taas ng pamasahe pero palpak pa rin ang serbisyo. Kaya nga sabi ko kahit itaas ng P100 ang pamasahe para kumita pero kung incompetent pa rin ang namumuno (like Mar and Abaya) wala pa rin mangyayaring katinuan sa serbisyo. Lugi pa yung taong bayan.

 

wala ngang gaano sumasakay nun umpisa kung hindi pa ibinaba ang pasahe na halos comparable sa bus o jeep.

 

tulad ng sinabi ko gusto natin baratin ang bayad pero gusto ninyo maganda serbisyo.

 

ang akin kung simula,t sapul sapat ang binabayad, hindi nalulugi at walang subsidy tapos palpak ang serbisyo tapos lahat ng nagdaang administrasyon ay ginawa ang proper maintenance, then siguro may punto ka.

 

matanong kita sa rate ngayon, sapat na ba yun? di na kailangan ng subsidy ng gobyerno?

Edited May 30, 2016 by fatchubs

[haroots2]

 

matanong kita sa rate ngayon, sapat na ba yun? di na kailangan ng subsidy ng gobyerno?

 

Yes, hindi sapat ang binabayad sa MRT for them to earn without subsidy. But LRT also is not enough but they are running well inspite they were build in the 80's. Bakit kaya? kasi hindi pinalitan ni Mar yung service provider nila. Kaya kung gusto mong umasenso service ng MRT kailangan palitan din yung service provider. lahat ng makina ay nasisira at naluluma, its the expertise of the maintenance provider that will make the difference.

[hidden_dragon]

At 3 Billion Pesos annual maintenance, one can think a lot of ....

 

Yes, hindi sapat ang binabayad sa MRT for them to earn without subsidy. But LRT also is not enough but they are running well inspite they were build in the 80's. Bakit kaya? kasi hindi pinalitan ni Mar yung service provider nila. Kaya kung gusto mong umasenso service ng MRT kailangan palitan din yung service provider. lahat ng makina ay nasisira at naluluma, its the expertise of the maintenance provider that will make the difference.

[haroots2]

At 3 Billion Pesos annual maintenance, one can think a lot of ....

 

 

I too have witnessed a high budget project , they got a incompetent company to implement the project. Why? Kasabwat sila sa ....

[rooster69ph]

Yes, hindi sapat ang binabayad sa MRT for them to earn without subsidy. But LRT also is not enough but they are running well inspite they were build in the 80's. Bakit kaya? kasi hindi pinalitan ni Mar yung service provider nila. Kaya kung gusto mong umasenso service ng MRT kailangan palitan din yung service provider. lahat ng makina ay nasisira at naluluma, its the expertise of the maintenance provider that will make the difference.

Just check...i think lrt is already in the positive. And guess when it started.

[haroots2]

Just check...i think lrt is already in the positive. And guess when it started.

 

Talagang mahirap ka talagang makaintindi gaya ng mga sinasabi ng iba dito.

[dos8dos]

 

Yes that was my statement pero bakit mo inaalis sa Pnoy admin. eh during that time pa rin yung tinutukoy ko. Bakit kailan ba tumaas ang pamasahe ng MRT? Di ba during Pnoy time? So why are you interpreting na yung matagal na sinasabi ko eh outside Pnoys time?

Dapat i cancel na ng DU30 admin yung existing maintenance contract ng MRT kasi palapk din naman ang pwede gawing grounds yung being incapable in doing their jobs. Di ko alam kung bakit pa pinalitan ni Mar yung maintenance contract.

 

continuing sumitomo maintenance contract is exorbitant

[haroots2]

 

continuing sumitomo maintenance contract is exorbitant

So is it better now that we got an incompetent one?

[camiar]

Just check...i think lrt is already in the positive. And guess when it started.

 

 

 

Talagang mahirap ka talagang makaintindi gaya ng mga sinasabi ng iba dito.

Hindi talaga makakaintindi yan. Hula-hula lang ang basehan.

 

MRT will never be in the positive.

 

Simple reason. The government, up to now, is still subsidizing the riding fare rates.

 

Ibig sabihin, di makaka-ahon sa lugi ang gobyerno sa operations ng MRT hangga't ina-abonohan nila ang pasahe sa MRT.

Edited May 31, 2016 by camiar

[rooster69ph]

Hindi talaga makakaintindi yan. Hula-hula lang ang basehan.

 

MRT will never be in the positive.

 

Simple reason. The government, up to now, is still subsidizing the riding fare rates.

 

Ibig sabihin, di makaka-ahon sa lugi ang gobyerno sa operations ng MRT hangga't ina-abonohan nila ang pasahe sa MRT.

Hay nakisawsaw ka na naman eh off tangent naman ang sinasabi mo .....lrt ang tinutukoy pero yun iyo mrt.

[baMbee🐝]

New trains and maintenance for now. Plan for subway kahit EDSA lang muna. Tama yung ginagawa nila naw na separate bus para narerestrict both publoc and private vehicles. Divert jobs and infrastructures to Nuvali, Bulacan, Cavite and Subic.

[camiar]

Hay nakisawsaw ka na naman eh off tangent naman ang sinasabi mo .....lrt ang tinutukoy pero yun iyo mrt.

 

Both LRT and MRT fares are subsidized. Even the PNR's commuter trains.

 

As long as it is subsidized, it will NEVER be in the positive. ABONADO palagi ang gobyerno sa pagpapatakbo ng tren, ke LRT pa, o MRT, o PNR.

 

Naiintindihan mo? Hindi, di ba?

 

Ipaklita mo kung saan nanggaling ang haka-haka mong in the positive nga ang LRT from the government's point of view. Hula mo lang yan.

[rooster69ph]

 

Both LRT and MRT fares are subsidized. Even the PNR's commuter trains.

 

As long as it is subsidized, it will NEVER be in the positive. ABONADO palagi ang gobyerno sa pagpapatakbo ng tren, ke LRT pa, o MRT, o PNR.

 

Naiintindihan mo? Hindi, di ba?

 

Ipaklita mo kung saan nanggaling ang haka-haka mong in the positive nga ang LRT from the government's point of view. Hula mo lang yan.

 

http://www.lrta.gov.ph/images/upload/Audited-Financial-and-Performance-Report-for-CY-2010-2014.pdf

[dos8dos]

So is it better now that we got an incompetent one?

 

nope its not better now, however the problem is not incompetence because the root cause of the problem is conflict of interest between the concessionaire (sobrepena) who wish to keep the contract to operate until 2025 & the aquino government wanting to buy it out

Edited June 1, 2016 by dos8dos

[haroots2]

 

nope its not better now, however the problem is not incompetence because the root cause of the problem is conflict of interest between the concessionaire (sobrepena) who wish to keep the contract to operate until 2025 & the aquino government wanting to buy it out

 

As a result the loosing end are the commuters.

[dos8dos]

^thats the sad part when the concessionaire doesnt have the interest of the commuters in hand

 

take note that MRT1 is build operate transfer (BOT) scheme. its the responsibility of the concessionaire to keep up the operation but since they didnt get the price to operate PROFITABLY they resorted to compensation from the govt in terms of SUBSIDY. thats what the ramos, erap & glory admin did and yet the concessionaire failed to add NEW TRAINS in that span of the years. in fairness to the sobrepenas the subsidy they got from the 3 admins after cory may not have been enough or they are just too GREEDY to milk the filipino tax payers

 

when the aquino admin came in thay wanted to change this by easing out sobrepenas from operating the MRT system. the sobrepenas fought back through the legal system insisting on their contract to operate until 2025

Edited June 1, 2016 by dos8dos

[camiar]

 

 

Hindi talaga makakaintindi yan. Hula-hula lang ang basehan.

 

MRT will never be in the positive.

 

Simple reason. The government, up to now, is still subsidizing the riding fare rates.

 

Ibig sabihin, di makaka-ahon sa lugi ang gobyerno sa operations ng MRT hangga't ina-abonohan nila ang pasahe sa MRT.

 

 

 

Both LRT and MRT fares are subsidized. Even the PNR's commuter trains.

 

As long as it is subsidized, it will NEVER be in the positive. ABONADO palagi ang gobyerno sa pagpapatakbo ng tren, ke LRT pa, o MRT, o PNR.

 

Naiintindihan mo? Hindi, di ba?

 

Ipaklita mo kung saan nanggaling ang haka-haka mong in the positive nga ang LRT from the government's point of view. Hula mo lang yan.

 

 

 

http://www.lrta.gov.ph/images/upload/Audited-Financial-and-Performance-Report-for-CY-2010-2014.pdf

 

O sige nga, ipaliwanag mo kung pano naging positive yung Revenue na Php 3.48 billion vs Operating Expense na Php 4.22 billion.

 

Php 740,000,000.00 Operating Loss, di ba?

 

Ang ibig sabihin ng "operating loss" sa Tagalog, lugi....

 

Don't attempt to use the "gain in foreign exchange" to cover for the operating loss. Window-dressing lang yan.

[rooster69ph]

 

 

 

 

 

O sige nga, ipaliwanag mo kung pano naging positive yung Revenue na Php 3.48 billion vs Operating Expense na Php 4.22 billion.

 

Php 740,000,000.00 Operating Loss, di ba?

 

Ang ibig sabihin ng "operating loss" sa Tagalog, lugi....

 

Don't attempt to use the "gain in foreign exchange" to cover for the operating loss. Window-dressing lang yan.

 

 

sige explain mo bakit window dressing ang forex gain or loss.

 

ngayon yun other income component hindi lang forex gain, may taon na kahit tanggalin mo yan positive pa rin di po ba?. Hindi ba normal course of business yun ibang nagenerate na other income?

[Ryuji_tanaka]

what ever happened to this?

 

DOTC proposes EDSA bus rapid transit system

http://rp3.abs-cbnnews.com/business/05/12/15/dotc-proposes-edsa-bus-rapid-transit-system

[haroots2]

what ever happened to this?

 

DOTC proposes EDSA bus rapid transit system

http://rp3.abs-cbnnews.com/business/05/12/15/dotc-proposes-edsa-bus-rapid-transit-system

 

Umaasa ka pa kay Abaya? Sabi niya wala namn daw namamatay sa traffic.

Edited June 1, 2016 by haroots2

[Ryuji_tanaka]

 

Umaasa ka pa kay Abaya? Sabi niya wala namn daw namamatay sa traffic.

Umaasa ako na makakapagsuot siya nung orange T-shirt na may P...unless maupo siya sa mahiwagang wheelchair.

[camiar]

 

O sige nga, ipaliwanag mo kung pano naging positive yung Revenue na Php 3.48 billion vs Operating Expense na Php 4.22 billion.

 

Php 740,000,000.00 Operating Loss, di ba?

 

Ang ibig sabihin ng "operating loss" sa Tagalog, lugi....

 

Don't attempt to use the "gain in foreign exchange" to cover for the operating loss. Window-dressing lang yan.

 

 

 

 

sige explain mo bakit window dressing ang forex gain or loss.

 

ngayon yun other income component hindi lang forex gain, may taon na kahit tanggalin mo yan positive pa rin di po ba?. Hindi ba normal course of business yun ibang nagenerate na other income?

 

Explain mo muna yung Operating Loss...

 

PhP 740 Million in operating loss.

 

Back read ka ulit. Operating losses ang pinag-uusapan natin, hindi accounting procedure.

 

Hindi mo kayang ipaliwanag, ano?

[rooster69ph]

 

 

 

Explain mo muna yung Operating Loss...

 

PhP 740 Million in operating loss.

 

Back read ka ulit. Operating losses ang pinag-uusapan natin, hindi accounting procedure.

 

Hindi mo kayang ipaliwanag, ano?

 

backread ka rin ... bago ka nakisawsaw "operating income" ba ang tinutukoy ko o yan ang pinupunto mo.

 

at uulitin ko, bakit hindi dapat isama ang forex gain or loss? paano mo nasabing window dressing ito o nagpapauso ka na naman. at pang huli, tanggalin mo man ang forex gain, positive pa rin ang bottom line nto during certain years.

[camiar]

 

backread ka rin ... bago ka nakisawsaw "operating income" ba ang tinutukoy ko o yan ang pinupunto mo.

 

at uulitin ko, bakit hindi dapat isama ang forex gain or loss? paano mo nasabing window dressing ito o nagpapauso ka na naman. at pang huli, tanggalin mo man ang forex gain, positive pa rin ang bottom line nto during certain years.

 

PhP740M operating loss....

 

Positive daw....

[daphne loves derby]

Eto mga suggestion ko para mabawasan ang traffic sa MM

 

1.) Ituloy ni P. Digong ang pagbabawal na magtayo pa ng factory or call center sa manila - FOR LIFE

- andami daming probinsya na malapit sa manila ang pwedeng pagtayuan (Cavite, Laguna, Batangas, Bulacan, etc)

- at dahil dadami ang trabaho sa probinsya, bababa ang migration rate sa MM

 

2.) Gawing available sa provincial satellite offices ang mga services na sa MM main offices lang ginagawa.

- DFA, CSC, DepEd, etc has some policies and services na sa main office lang sa MM mo dapat I accomplish

 

3.) Ituloy ang plano ng bagong airport outside MM para malimitahan ang bilang ng flight sa mga lumang airports

 

4.) Alisin ang provincial rates.

- Bakit ba kailangan may provincial rate? pareho naman ng presyo ng bilihin, pareho ng tax, may bayad din ang tubig at kuryente

- Kaya mas maraming probinsyanong nag ma migrate at sumusugal sa maynila kasi mas malaki ang sahod.

 

Sana, sana, sana magawa ang mga ito ni P. Digong