*kalel* Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 sana implement lang maige muna lahat ng traffic laws... walang palakasan... Quote Link to comment
sandy51 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Sana someone in government who can make a difference realizes that: 1. The traffic managers themselves may be the major problem. Let's start with who really is in charge? There is the DOTC, through the LTO. Then there is the MMDA Law. And the Local Government Code. Where does the buck end? Then there are the driver's manual from National Book Store. Can these publications be used as reference in a traffic court? In the US and Canada, there is such a manual given for free. We're not rich so why can't the DOTC or whoever is really in charge sell such a manual? Too hard for an Annapolis graduate to fathom? 2. Does the government really think that people would much rather go through hours of traffic; minutes of finding a parking space in Makati, ; then paying a high parking fee; rather than take the MRT if only they could, like in Hongkong or Singapore? Or lahat nito, kasalanan pa din ni Marcos and Gloria? Quote Link to comment
Ryuji_tanaka Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Traffic solution? More people should bike! Less traffic, better health and cheaper transportation. Here's to wishing our government invests in bike lanes, tax incentives for bike purchases and more bike friendly parking!If this was Europe, I'd agree with you. Here? You might as well wear a shirt that says "Sagasaan niyo ako!". Quote Link to comment
senestroring Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 there are a lot of causes of traffic here in our country... here are a few of what i think, same as our government, driving methods and situations here in our country are dysfuntional.... -undisciplined motorists... no road courtesy... mahirap din naman ang maging sample ng me road courtesy... pag me pinasingit ka yari ka... unlike sa ibang bansa na kung me pinasingit ka, ikaw na ang susunod na parang me respeto sa pila... dito hindi ka na papa-pasukin ng mga sumisingit sa iyo... sorry ka na lang kaya mahirap na din siguro magka road courtesy dito... -poor public transports... jeepneys... buses... tricycle... sidecar... yung pagiging sobrang dami nila ang walang disiplina... kasama na dito ang hindi efficient na LRTs MRTs natin.... -road hassles... included dito ang mga magkakariton... mga vendors na nakaharang sa kalsada... -trucks, containers, delivery vans na parang sobrang laki ng kalsada... pag hindi mo naman ipapabyahe ito hindi din pwe pwede dahil sa ating economy... -overvolume ng motor vehicles & passengers of public transport... -overpopulation... Solutions: hindi ganun kadali gawan ng solution ito... coordinated effort kasi ito... tulad ng undisciplined motorist... although alam natin na dapat magkaroon ng road courtesy pero karamihan sa atin (kundi lahat) ay hindi magpapasingit sa harap natin dahil tuloy tuloy na tayong sisingitan yung mga kasunod... one thing pa, same din sa una, hinaharangan natin yung ibang intersection or corners pagka traffic kaya ito din ang nagca cause ng traffic sa kabilang corner or intersection... to begin with, at sa tingin ko malaki ang i-improvin ng driving condition sa atin ay magkaroon ng disiplina at road courtesy... pero sa tingin ko wishful thinking lang ito... yung sa public transport na tulad sa mga MRTs LRTs... trabaho ng gobyerno yan na gawin pang mas efficient yan.. yung magkakariton, sidecar, hindi naman yata kayang ipagbawal dito yan dahil way of life na yan.. (dysfuntional) jeepney and buses- overvolume din yan... lalo na pag hindi puno... dahan dahan tatakbo silang lahat at gagawing terminal ang mga sakayan para mapuno sila ng pasahero.. maybe there are a lot of things pa na hindi ko na mention... pero just the same, sa tingin ko malabong gawan ng solusyon ang traffic problem natin... Quote Link to comment
Iceman7 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Wasted most of my day in traffic during the apec summit Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 as long privates vehicles is selling like a hot pancake traffic in the metro will get from worst to disaster... planning for improving major roads takes decades to make what we need now is flying cars Quote Link to comment
djsinple Posted November 30, 2015 Share Posted November 30, 2015 Road widening lang talaga ang solution Jan pati ang paglagay ng speed trains. Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 road widening take dyoskupo pineapple sa bagal... dagdag lng sa traffic! better tlaga mgkaroon ng ibang route ang mga container truck from pier.... utilized yung line ng pnr tren para gawin alternate roads.. sa ibang bansa nga nagsasabay ang tren at private vehicles... kung wlang magsisimulang magstep up to make major planning sa metro traffic... magkakaroon ng TWD sa major roads sa pinas Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) yun maysilo circle over a year na di matapos-tapos. Kaya ayun sa awa ng diyos araw-araw dusa. ginawa supposedly para di bumaha pero parang mas lumala pa ngayon pag umuulan Edited December 1, 2015 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
EL_PY Posted December 1, 2015 Share Posted December 1, 2015 road laws implementation at discipline pinaka madaling solusyon para masolusyonan ang traffic sa NCR Quote Link to comment
gwapingsz1 Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 road laws implementation at discipline pinaka madaling solusyon para masolusyonan ang traffic sa NCRI agree. Driver behavior din is a big factor. Wala nagbibigayan sa kalsada puro singitan at unahan. Naka nguso na auto mo uunahan kapa so sa likod mo may pile up na. Taz mga jeep na nagbaba sa gitna ng daan wala man lang considerasyon sa mga maabala sa likod. Yun din mga illegal terminal, pick up and drop off points lang dapat ginagwang terminal. Also, alternative and better public transport like a rail system going arond the metro and nearby provinces. Quote Link to comment
moodboom Posted December 3, 2015 Share Posted December 3, 2015 di ko maintindihan bakit di marunong gumamit ng foresight ang mga nasa gobyerno when they do have the statistics to back it up. walang ka foresight foresight ang mga road designs natin. basta makagawa lang ng daan okay na undermining the population of the area or the establishments in the area 5, 10, 15 yrs from now. sa ibang bansa ganun ang takbuhan, pagaaralan ang area, pagiisipan kung anong klaseng zone ba ilalagay, gagawa ng foresight, tpos road construction. dito kakaiba, zones muna tpos daan tapos bahala na.speaking of zoning, isa pa tong problema kaya congested ang manila traffic. isipin mo ba naman residential, commercial and industrial establishments all compacted near a vital traffic artery! susme! nandyan ang mga malls, working offices, condo units lahat na. naiiling na nga lang ako sa mga ads ng mga realty/ condo, lahat nakalagay near edsa, kampucha ineencourage pa na macongest lalo ung area! kaya maski anong linis nyo ng mga street vendors, anong klaseng laning laning pa or coding schemes gawin, di uubra yan. i just hope the government have the guts to reestablish proper zoning ng mga establshments. ilipat ang mga dapat ilipat, tanggalin ang mga dapat tanggalin ewan lang kung hindi pa makita yung hinahanap na decongestion ng mga pinoy. strong willpower lang naman naghihinder eh. 1 Quote Link to comment
bonanas Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 di ko maintindihan bakit di marunong gumamit ng foresight ang mga nasa gobyerno when they do have the statistics to back it up. walang ka foresight foresight ang mga road designs natin. basta makagawa lang ng daan okay na undermining the population of the area or the establishments in the area 5, 10, 15 yrs from now. sa ibang bansa ganun ang takbuhan, pagaaralan ang area, pagiisipan kung anong klaseng zone ba ilalagay, gagawa ng foresight, tpos road construction. dito kakaiba, zones muna tpos daan tapos bahala na. speaking of zoning, isa pa tong problema kaya congested ang manila traffic. isipin mo ba naman residential, commercial and industrial establishments all compacted near a vital traffic artery! susme! nandyan ang mga malls, working offices, condo units lahat na. naiiling na nga lang ako sa mga ads ng mga realty/ condo, lahat nakalagay near edsa, kampucha ineencourage pa na macongest lalo ung area! kaya maski anong linis nyo ng mga street vendors, anong klaseng laning laning pa or coding schemes gawin, di uubra yan. i just hope the government have the guts to reestablish proper zoning ng mga establshments. ilipat ang mga dapat ilipat, tanggalin ang mga dapat tanggalin ewan lang kung hindi pa makita yung hinahanap na decongestion ng mga pinoy. strong willpower lang naman naghihinder eh. Because all they care about is exploiting their position in the government, siphoning the resources and privelege entitled to them for their own gain. Remember these politicians who started in their own local area, are warlords employing violence, eliminating their rivals, cheating, lying, etc to be in their position. And once they elevate to the national level they employ the best PR people to have the best image.Kung matino ka at talagang clean cut na politico chances are you'll be eliminated sa pagtakbo mo pa lang (lalo na sa provinces), so these f@ckers who are at the top are the best in the game. So going back to the traffic dilemma and govt services in general. What we're getting actuall is para lang masabi na we still have a functioning govt, but as far as them doing their job, let's just forget it. Just look around, traffic situation in the metro. Every man for himself. Quote Link to comment
Droidz1979 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 (edited) For me traffic is a complex problem that a simplistic solution like wider road is enough to solve. To start with:Yes a competent, forward-looking and strong-willed leader or gov't agency head would help or simply someone whose head is at the right place that listens to sound advise from capable consultants or advisers.A road map in doing so always usually helps in terms of not coming up with a quick fix but also come up with medium and long term plans.Next would be changing the culture of people in terms of road courtesy, environment-friendly transport ie. bikes or pedestrianization or discourage the blind love for car ownership among others. This can be done via a holistic marketing plan as well as policies or laws that obviously needs to be implemented to the T like making it more expensive to own a car or requiring parking to own one or requiring a specific space allocation for commercial establishments to operate or simply updating of coming up with a sound land use plan and zoning ordinance.Obviously, a good infrastructure would help specifically coming up with a reliable, safe, convenient and affordable mass public transport that goes hand-in-hand with the culture change. Coming up with bike lanes and safe bike parking areas could be included here as well as having pedestrians utilized by people and not owned by street vendors. Instead of building more expressways that encourages car ownership, the railway program should have been continued if not expanded. Obviously, trains carry more people than cars (please refer to the image below for visual explanation).Decentralization of growth nodes also helps to decongestant traffic. Having a central sea port, airport, government hubs, military camps, schools, commercial centers and residential areas (including exclusive subdivisions) all concentrated within Metro Manila explains this one. Plans like utilizing ports in Clarks and Batangas as well as the airport of Subic is a no-brainer if only our political leadership can move past the thinking that this was the brainchild of the previous administration. Thus, a good roadmap always helps.Wala nakong ibang maisip so i'll leave the rest to you come up with additional inputs. In a way, WE, the voting public are somewhat guilty of electing the same old clowns to come up with shitty, knee-jerk solution/projects that does not add value or do justice to the taxes that are somewhat being robbed from us. #mytowcentsworth Edited December 9, 2015 by Droidz1979 Quote Link to comment
moodboom Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 nagkanda leche leche nanaman traffic kahapon sa quezon ave cor. edsa underpass. and the excuse "di raw nagcoordinate" with the people that should install the traffic lights. nadelay daw, bakit kaya? siguro natraffic ? only in the philippines ! Quote Link to comment
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