tarbis Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 It is a complete and total marketing strategy. I used to eat 1 gram per lb of bodyweight and then normal food. I got FAT. Many of my members will drink a shake with 2 scoops of whey after they workout and then wonder why it looks like they swallowed a watermellon...for 2 days and they have bad gas as well. Start with the RDA, 1g per kg of bodyweight and just be sure to eat enough solid food. You can slightly adjust up or down. Total calories determines nitrogren retention (muscle growth), not protein intake. Honestly I don't watch my protein intake and I still gain 2-3 lbs of muscle per year on average, nearly 17 years later. I know that I rarely get 1g per lb of bodyweight....very rarely. I'm now lean at 180lbs, but not bulky since most of my mass is in my abs, back, and legs. Just eat alot, enjoy your food, and follow a scientific program. You are too new in your training career to analyze every last detail. That is a receipe for no life and stress. Wait until you are at the top of your weight class in some sport, and then we'll talk :hypocritesmiley: That's why I'm here to confirm and gather info. And thankz for the tip. I've been working out for almost a year now and I've lost some almost 20lbs of body fat but gained some back when I injured my lower back last october for stupidly trying out the advanced jump squat that I already know the risk. I have to rest for a month just to heal that darn lower back. :thumbsdownsmiley: Right now I'm more concerned of the food I take since that's my weakness. I tend to eat a lot since I get hungry fast even after a meal. Quote Link to comment
Eclipseguy Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 That's why I'm here to confirm and gather info. And thankz for the tip. I've been working out for almost a year now and I've lost some almost 20lbs of body fat but gained some back when I injured my lower back last october for stupidly trying out the advanced jump squat that I already know the risk. I have to rest for a month just to heal that darn lower back. :thumbsdownsmiley: Right now I'm more concerned of the food I take since that's my weakness. I tend to eat a lot since I get hungry fast even after a meal. Never EVER do plyometric training unless you can squat 1.5-2 times your bodyweight. Even then there's Olympic lifting. Jump squats are useless if you are efficient in the o-lifts....and they are far safer and MUCH more effective. There are probably less than 5 people in this country that are experienced enough to teach plyometrics to avoid an injury like you suffered....and all would give the same advice I gave about squats and O-lifts. Don't try to teach this stuff to yourself, or you will just keep re-injuring yourself....maybe even permanently. Quote Link to comment
Eclipseguy Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 Right now I'm more concerned of the food I take since that's my weakness. I tend to eat a lot since I get hungry fast even after a meal. You are thirsty...not "hungry". It's a false signal. Drink 1/2 liter of water before your meal and then during or after and you won't feel the hunger as before. Quote Link to comment
Equus Posted December 9, 2006 Share Posted December 9, 2006 nice... this thread is alive again... I completely DO NOT believe in the 1 g per kg body weight of protein... that is crap crap crap... especially on the start up... Ive seen guys who eat a whole lot less and still gain a whole lot more compared to guys who do that thing and end up having very rich s@%t and urine and overworked kidneys and liver... I hae been on amino acids though... its nice... gave me a nice hard look and sort of made a difference... but my food was never compromised though... three things with the best protein... eggs, milk and peanut butter... that stuff is the shiznit... i got sick for the past 3 to 4 weeks... hassle... lost some strength but slowly gaining it back... Im already deadlifting 310 pounds at 5 sets and 5 reps... my squats is coming along slow though... and so are my shoulders... in any case, case in point is, unless yer stick thin and want to bulk up fast, stay off those protein shakes. YOU DO NOT NEED THEM... Calorie shakes are a different story though... some people do need them especially for those who are physiologically gifted with high metabolisms... Quote Link to comment
tarbis Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 (edited) Never EVER do plyometric training unless you can squat 1.5-2 times your bodyweight. Even then there's Olympic lifting. Jump squats are useless if you are efficient in the o-lifts....and they are far safer and MUCH more effective. There are probably less than 5 people in this country that are experienced enough to teach plyometrics to avoid an injury like you suffered....and all would give the same advice I gave about squats and O-lifts. Don't try to teach this stuff to yourself, or you will just keep re-injuring yourself....maybe even permanently. You are thirsty...not "hungry". It's a false signal. Drink 1/2 liter of water before your meal and then during or after and you won't feel the hunger as before. Ya, I learned it the hardway, one injury a lifetime is enough. I'm sticking to old squatts and deadlifts. Nothing beats old school :thumbsupsmiley: Thankz for the tip, I'm now drinking 1L of water after my meal and workouts (my mug is 0.5L so I take 2 glassful) to ease my hunger pangs. Edited December 10, 2006 by tarbis Quote Link to comment
Boysbe Posted December 11, 2006 Share Posted December 11, 2006 I suggest you take Prolab N-large2. It has alot of whey protein and high quality carbs that will surely give you muscle mass. Here is a complete pricelist of our products. Hope you can visit our discount store "Supplement For Less" Address: Prince Arcade Ortigas Avenue Extension Pasig City.(near Ever gotesco ortigas).Right across countryside subdivision. Designer Whey Description Designer Whey Protein Choco, Vanilla, Strawberry 2 lbs. P1,400Designer Whey Protein Choco, Vanilla, Strawberry 5 lbs. P2,500 Sports Nutrition International Description Xtreme Pro Whey Choco and Vanilla 1 lb. P550Xtreme Pro Mass Choco and Vanilla 1 lb. P360Micronize Creatine N/A 100 g. P260Xtreme Pro Amino 2000 N/A 50 tabs P315Xtreme Pro Amino 2000 N/A 6 tabs P45Hydroxytrim EFX N/A 30 caps P400Hydroxytrim EFX N/A 3 caps P45 All American Pharmaceutical Description Kre-Alkalyn Creatine Caps N/A 30 P500 MuscleTech Description Hydroxycut N/A 100 caps P1,900 Hydroxycut N/A 150 caps P2,500 Hydroxycut Hardcore N/A 120 caps P2,800 NitroTech Chocolate, Vanilla 2.0 lbs P2,300 CellTech Orange, Fruit punch 4.5 lbs P3,100 MuscleTech Pump Tech N/A 200 caps P3,900 MuscleTech Thermogain N/A 150 caps P2,900 Prolab Description Prolab N-Large2 Chocolate, Vanilla 3.8 lbs. P1,600 EAS Description EAS 100% Whey Protein Chocolate, Vanilla 2 lbs. P1,300 EAS 100% Whey Protein Chocolate, Vanilla 5 lbs. P2,300 EAS Premium Whey Protein Chocolate 2lbs. P900 Protein Water Sour Apple, Pink Lemonade, Grape 575 ml. P85 Wow,thanks for the list, i having the same problem with weight, i just hope they have it here in Bag. :mtc: Quote Link to comment
dyakhardy Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Guys, i just wanna ask, how come I'm gaining pounds when I'm strictly on a diet? Also, i do notice that my body is shaping up because of my work-out routine. Is this because of muscle mass? Thanks and hope you can clear this for me Quote Link to comment
Eclipseguy Posted December 12, 2006 Share Posted December 12, 2006 Guys, i just wanna ask, how come I'm gaining pounds when I'm strictly on a diet? Also, i do notice that my body is shaping up because of my work-out routine. Is this because of muscle mass? Thanks and hope you can clear this for me Gaining muscle while losing fat is actually pretty common for guys with large frames. One of my assistant coaches who is also a student gained 20lbs of fat while gaining about 20lbs of muscle in 4 months. His scale weight didn't change, but his strength doubled or tripled, and he barely fit into his clothes....in a good way, of course :cool: Quote Link to comment
led_ikari Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 how about cytosport cyto gainer Quote Link to comment
van_wilder Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 for guaranteed authentic supplements, visit www.quik-nutrition.com would deliver the supplements right in front of your doorsteps. Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 Does anyone here sell ephedrine? Quote Link to comment
van_wilder Posted December 24, 2006 Share Posted December 24, 2006 pm me. i know someone who does. Quote Link to comment
RollsRoyce Posted December 25, 2006 Share Posted December 25, 2006 Enduranz capsules is a good supplement... When I take it twice a day, it give me boost in basketball (the one that dribble first then shoot). I dont feel tired when using it... Quote Link to comment
bigtimegoof Posted January 6, 2007 Share Posted January 6, 2007 Does anyone here sell ephedrine? dude ask ko lang ano ba effect nito ? Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 dude ask ko lang ano ba effect nito ? Similar to caffeine but for guys with ADD, it makes them more focused and no jitters Quote Link to comment
Eclipseguy Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Similar to caffeine but for guys with ADD, it makes them more focused and no jitters And, if taken responsibly, it also doesn't cause insomnia like caffeine. Ephedrine is the king of stimulants and is as close to perfect as a stimulant gets. It's so unfortunate that it is so political and a scapegoat for politicians who want attention in an election year. Quote Link to comment
jaydawg Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Isnt ephedrine banned already? OK nga raw kick nun... Quote Link to comment
Eclipseguy Posted January 7, 2007 Share Posted January 7, 2007 Isnt ephedrine banned already? OK nga raw kick nun... In the States it was banned for a short time...now you can but it again since the ban was overturned. Here it is supposedly easily found recently...if you have the right connections....but not via mainstream places like GNC. I've heard some supplement stores have it (due to balikbayan box shipments), but they won't sell it to you (openly) unless you are a regular since it's not really clear what the law is about it here, so they don't take a risk on a non-regular. To possess large quantities is clearly illegal (because you can make it into methamphetamines/shabu via chemical process), but small amounts for personal use is something else entirely. Quote Link to comment
Dudester Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Me.. The oldest "miracle" WATER!!! Must of these supplements can at most give you 5% total boost(with the exceptions of banned drugs, roids, etc)This supplements are habit forming but so are exercise and a healthy lifestyle You're choice! Quote Link to comment
sikosci Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 i dunno if this is the place to put this but what is the best post workout drink or meal that you could suggest? or at least works for you? thanks in advance Quote Link to comment
maharot Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Selling these products DESIGNER WHEY (Choco, Vanilla Strawberry)2lbs- Php 1,8005lbs- PhP 3,400 Designer Glycerlean (choco, vanilla)2lbs- Php 2,400 I can get 15% discount if you buy 6 or more Other Suppliments: Optimum Nutrition 100% whey -- 2lb-1,200php 5lb-2500php 10lb-4800phpChampion Whey 5lbs-2500phpPinnacle Juiced Protein 3lbs 2600PhpMustletech Nitro-tech Whey 2lb- 2600 4lb- 4400 Muscletech cell-tech Creatine Supplement 4lb- 3300php 7lbs- 4500phpEAS Phosphagen (creatine) 500g -- 1200phpOptimum creatine 2500 300 caps- 2200phpPeak Nutrition Creatine Citrus 300g- 900phpSAN Fuel injection V12 475g--2800phpMHP TRAC 400 grams- 2800php Xenadrine EFX 120 caps- 2000phpHydrocut EF 140caps- 2250php 210 caps-- 3200p PM nalang Quote Link to comment
maharot Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 bro im ricky from qc, mron kba mkkunan fat burner wd muang?either senapeak, hydroxycat, senadrine etc. dati nko gumagamit non bro nung ngggym pko,bbalik plang ulet kya kylangan ko malakas na fat burner. tnx Quote Link to comment
UN0 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 What's the pros and cons of using roids guys? Quote Link to comment
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