bods1000 Posted November 4, 2004 Author Share Posted November 4, 2004 yes, I'll share it with you. hehehe my mistake hindi nga pala connected si peter lehman with southcorp. it a different vineyard, i've seen some of their wines, did you know that they have a case worth US$500.00 sobrang mahal at exagerated na ang price nyan sa manila. i'd be here until the second week tas SIN naman, wala sobrang peak season kc. anyway, hope to see you when i get back.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> pards baka $5000 or $50,000 per case kasi mura lang kung $500 hehehe....mahal nga yung Peter Lehmann lalo na yung Stonewell Shiraz nila - yung ang panapat nila sa Grange ng Penfolds, sa The Armagh ng Jim Barry, sa Henschke Hill of Grace etc. Upwards of $100 yata ang isang bote...pards walang distributor dito ang Peter Lehmann.... Ok when you get back give me a ring..... Quote Link to comment
masi Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 bods, tasting wines a years after may let you forget the taste even a year ago, hehehe. and certainly its hard to trust wine experts unless they are recognized globally. tried once using a famous chef from a local resto in MNL, magaling daw, ngee, what we did, we combined wines like carlos rossi, welsch & other, then have him tried it, wow and sarap daw, hehehe<{POST_SNAPBACK}> that's the danger when people claim to be experts...it takes years to become a sommelier or a wine master. i read somewhere that the best sommelier was able to identify 120 labels ... blindfolded. i think for afficionados and amateurs like us, we should not lose track of the word "appreciation" in our quest for knowledge and liking for wines. Quote Link to comment
chicboy143 Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Beringer Zinfandel! Ang Sarap! Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Beringer Zinfandel! Ang Sarap!<{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you like the Beringer zins, then you should also like the Ravenswood zins. The 2000 Vintners Blend and the 1999 Lodi Zin are excellent. And if you like 'em big and bold, try the Bonny Doon Cardinal Zin 1999 Yes, that's the name! Bonny Doon is known for creative names for their wines. Quote Link to comment
caloy76 Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 i never tried mixing wines....I also prefer single varietal wines . Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted November 5, 2004 Author Share Posted November 5, 2004 that's the danger when people claim to be experts...it takes years to become a sommelier or a wine master. i read somewhere that the best sommelier was able to identify 120 labels ... blindfolded. i think for afficionados and amateurs like us, we should not lose track of the word "appreciation" in our quest for knowledge and liking for wines.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> well said!Let the road take us where it will - the enjoyment of wine doesn't require anything but being yourself. Cheers! Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted November 5, 2004 Author Share Posted November 5, 2004 If you like the Beringer zins, then you should also like the Ravenswood zins. The 2000 Vintners Blend and the 1999 Lodi Zin are excellent. And if you like 'em big and bold, try the Bonny Doon Cardinal Zin 1999 Yes, that's the name! Bonny Doon is known for creative names for their wines.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I tasted a zin - Eagle Creek I think it was - and I daresay I was not impressed. Haven't got the chance to try Beringer - available ito dito but quite expensive. Ravenswood I don't think is available here. Speaking of catchy wine names - there's of course the Yellowtail from Australia. Also from Oz are such names as Bear Crossing, Madfish, Hanging Rock, etc. Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 I tasted a zin - Eagle Creek I think it was - and I daresay I was not impressed. Haven't got the chance to try Beringer - available ito dito but quite expensive. Ravenswood I don't think is available here. Speaking of catchy wine names - there's of course the Yellowtail from Australia. Also from Oz are such names as Bear Crossing, Madfish, Hanging Rock, etc.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hmmmmm......don't know Eagle Creek but with all the wineries around here it's not surprising! Haven't had too many Aussie zins I've liked. The local zins are just so nice I hardly venture outside the region, let alone California for zins any more.... Waaah! I'm out of my Davis Bynum Old Vines 1998 zins! Drank the last one this week........and didn't realize it until 2 nights ago when I wanted a nice, smooth, BIG zin. And lo and behold, there wasn't another one to be found! :cry: I got the wine at clearance prices ($120/case) and it proved to be one of the best I've ever had. Now it's no longer available. I should have bought more than that case. Damn! When will I ever learn? Find a great wine, buy as much as you can afford, carry and store (properly, of course!), for you may never find it again. Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted November 6, 2004 Author Share Posted November 6, 2004 Hmmmmm......don't know Eagle Creek but with all the wineries around here it's not surprising! Haven't had too many Aussie zins I've liked. The local zins are just so nice I hardly venture outside the region, let alone California for zins any more.... Waaah! I'm out of my Davis Bynum Old Vines 1998 zins! Drank the last one this week........and didn't realize it until 2 nights ago when I wanted a nice, smooth, BIG zin. And lo and behold, there wasn't another one to be found! :cry: I got the wine at clearance prices ($120/case) and it proved to be one of the best I've ever had. Now it's no longer available. I should have bought more than that case. Damn! When will I ever learn? Find a great wine, buy as much as you can afford, carry and store (properly, of course!), for you may never find it again.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> yeah pare i think that's why my German client gets 5 cases of my Aussie shiraz in one order...para hwag maubusan..the problem is that yung ibang ka-member nya dun sa Wine Society here gets mad at him kasi inuubos nya yung shiraz wala na silang mabili.. sinubukan ko lang yung Eagle Creek - but I suspected na agad that it's no good because it's quite cheap - para lang may mainom na zinfandel... Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 yeah pare i think that's why my German client gets 5 cases of my Aussie shiraz in one order...para hwag maubusan..the problem is that yung ibang ka-member nya dun sa Wine Society here gets mad at him kasi inuubos nya yung shiraz wala na silang mabili.. sinubukan ko lang yung Eagle Creek - but I suspected na agad that it's no good because it's quite cheap - para lang may mainom na zinfandel...<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wifey and I had dinner Sunday night at a place in Wlanut Creek called Va de Vi. The sous shef is Hawaiian/Filipino/something else. On the menu - adobo prok spare ribs! Mmmmmmmm......with garlic fried rice......... Also had hanger steak with Yukon gold potatoes, gala apples and endive salad w/ blue cheese, and ratatouille. This place has not just wine list with bottles of wine available, but lots of wines by the glass, and a whole bunch of wine flights. Each flight is 3 different wines, 3 oz. each glass. Not bad. So shoudl I have the cab flight? Or the pinot noirs? Or the sauv. blacns? Or the zins? Let's have the zins!, I said. OK - all were fine but not memorable. One was from El Dorado Country (the sierra foothills around where the Gold Rush took place), one was a primitivo from Italy, the tird was from the Russian River. I have the names written down somewhere at home, but I forget them right now. Let's just say I've had better, but maybe it was the food/wine pairing? Maybe I should have gone for the sauv blanc or the reislings? I did have the Bonny Doon framboise (raspberry) wine for dessert. Went extremely well with my wife's chocolate souffle cake, and I was glad I chose that instead of the Sauternes. More wine tasting on Thursday - I have a cab and a zin I will be bringing to my weekly photo critique and wine tasting group. Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 I was so disappointed by my last zin tasting at Va de Vi that I decided I'd have a zin tonight at dinner. Coincidentally, my wife decided that she'd do her version of a marinara sauce with pasta tonight. The fates do conspire to reward us sometimes. Her sauce is nothing more than a couple of cans of tomato sauce, a couple of small cans of tomato paste for thickness, and a couple of cans of stewed tomatoes for texture. Add a pound or so of Italian sausage, a couple of tablespoons of brown sugar and a cup of good red wine and, voila!, you're done! Nothing fancy, but oh, so good! The advice everyone gives you is to never cook with a wine you won't drink, so I donated a cup of my (good!) zin to the mix, and had a couple of glasses with dinner. It was a 1995 Vittorio Sattui Alexander Valley Zin. Nice strawberries on the nose, along with that characteristic pepperiness in the background. A bit of smoke as well. Black cherriy flavors, strawberries, white and black pepper and some coffee hiding in the back. Soft tannins, lots of fruit. All in all, another very good zin from V. Sattui. This wine is only available at the winery (ALL of the Sattui wines are only available at the winery! Sorry, guys!) but they ship EVERYWHERE! V. Sattui is in the Napa Valley (California) in the town of St. Helena. http://www.vsattui.com Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted November 10, 2004 Author Share Posted November 10, 2004 I was so disappointed by my last zin tasting at Va de Vi that I decided I'd have a zin tonight at dinner. Coincidentally, my wife decided that she'd do her version of a marinara sauce with pasta tonight. The fates do conspire to reward us sometimes. Her sauce is nothing more than a couple of cans of tomato sauce, a couple of small cans of tomato paste for thickness, and a couple of cans of stewed tomatoes for texture. Add a pound or so of Italian sausage, a couple of tablespoons of brown sugar and a cup of good red wine and, voila!, you're done! Nothing fancy, but oh, so good! The advice everyone gives you is to never cook with a wine you won't drink, so I donated a cup of my (good!) zin to the mix, and had a couple of glasses with dinner. It was a 1995 Vittorio Sattui Alexander Valley Zin. Nice strawberries on the nose, along with that characteristic pepperiness in the background. A bit of smoke as well. Black cherriy flavors, strawberries, white and black pepper and some coffee hiding in the back. Soft tannins, lots of fruit. All in all, another very good zin from V. Sattui. This wine is only available at the winery (ALL of the Sattui wines are only available at the winery! Sorry, guys!) but they ship EVERYWHERE! V. Sattui is in the Napa Valley (California) in the town of St. Helena. http://www.vsattui.com<{POST_SNAPBACK}> That v. Sattui must have been one hell of a zin - I was not sure that zins could age that gracefully for almost ten years.cheers, pare! Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted November 10, 2004 Author Share Posted November 10, 2004 Wifey and I had dinner Sunday night at a place in Wlanut Creek called Va de Vi. The sous shef is Hawaiian/Filipino/something else. On the menu - adobo prok spare ribs! Mmmmmmmm......with garlic fried rice......... Also had hanger steak with Yukon gold potatoes, gala apples and endive salad w/ blue cheese, and ratatouille. This place has not just wine list with bottles of wine available, but lots of wines by the glass, and a whole bunch of wine flights. Each flight is 3 different wines, 3 oz. each glass. Not bad. So shoudl I have the cab flight? Or the pinot noirs? Or the sauv. blacns? Or the zins? Let's have the zins!, I said. OK - all were fine but not memorable. One was from El Dorado Country (the sierra foothills around where the Gold Rush took place), one was a primitivo from Italy, the tird was from the Russian River. I have the names written down somewhere at home, but I forget them right now. Let's just say I've had better, but maybe it was the food/wine pairing? Maybe I should have gone for the sauv blanc or the reislings? I did have the Bonny Doon framboise (raspberry) wine for dessert. Went extremely well with my wife's chocolate souffle cake, and I was glad I chose that instead of the Sauternes. More wine tasting on Thursday - I have a cab and a zin I will be bringing to my weekly photo critique and wine tasting group.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I've heard about those wine flights....sayang nga walang mga wine bars dito. Ordering for wine flights should prove to be interesting...There used to be a wine bar somewhere in Legaspi Village pero nagsara din ito after about a year or so... Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted November 10, 2004 Author Share Posted November 10, 2004 About cooking with wine: There's a popular misconception that wine is used in cooking because it dissolves the flavor of the ingredients while cooking - something that can't be done by water alone...so that the dish turns out more magnificent because of all those flavors which were absorbed.This is furthest from the truth. Wine is used because of the unique flavor it can impart to the dish... Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 That v. Sattui must have been one hell of a zin - I was not sure that zins could age that gracefully for almost ten years.cheers, pare!<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I have a cuple of 97 Noah's zins left in my stash. Yup, they're geting up there in age. Time to drink them up! 7 years for a BIIIIIG zin (15.8%!) is not bad, but I don't want it to start going downhill. Quote Link to comment
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