alexis_raynald Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Let's hear it from you guys.*Huuuuwaaaah!* Ok yung pic attachment sir, do you study Wing Chun if i am not mistaken that is GrandMaster Yip Man Quote Link to comment
alexis_raynald Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Guys, pansin ko lang sa mga UFC matches, parang mas nananalo lagi yung "pit fighters" or yung "freestyle streetfighters" kaysa sa mga martial arts, na t** kwon do etc etc. Kaya minsan napag-isip-isip ko na baka useless naman yung martial arts kasi kina-kaya kaya lang sila ng mga walang specific discipline, puro mga pulot lang na techniques. Medyo nga, pero in fairness sa ibang MA, iba kasi ang setting sa UFC eh, at sa traditional MA's, pansinin mo yung mga ibang UFC fighters, combination ng ibat ibang MA din ang discipline nila.Iba kasi rin at type of macthes sa traditional MA, more on stand up fighting sa UFC more on the ground sila. Quote Link to comment
joel Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 nice thred bo in the UFC format it is best to have backgrounds in as much disciplines as possible, ther are weaknesses in the different arts, but in learning different disciplines, you can offset these weaknesses with the knowledge of other techniques. it used to be that the brazilian ju jitsu dominated, then came the time when gracie ju jitsu seemed to become obsolete with the merger of the different schools, like with shamrock, mixing ground fighting with striking, now the combination seems good, if the fighter is agile. for me, Aikido is still the basis of how i used to fight, with the additions of different arts taught to me, one is the use of weapons; sticks, knife, chains and anything that is availablethen ther was kick boxing, though i wasn't proficient in it, damn that was hard! but i still conform to this rule disable the opponent to gain the upper hand and and try to keep the fight as short as possible, no need to dance around but i haven't had any practice Quote Link to comment
MODERATOR bonito99 Posted October 31, 2003 MODERATOR Share Posted October 31, 2003 I have a good friend who used to teach that "anyhow,anyway" style. Basti Carlos. He's in the US right now, though. @joel: thanks! Quote Link to comment
Django Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 Yup, there is no "ultimate" technique, one must learn to mix and match different styles in order to come up with a winning combination. I took up a soft art (aikido), hard art (karate and t** kwon do), and some weapons training (arnis) in order to mix and match them to fit the situation. I plan to take up Tai-chi and a sword style in the near future to augment my knowledge and skills. Quote Link to comment
homerx Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 IMHO martial arts is a great way to stay fit, but it's waaay over-rated. Most of the time, a pepper spray is more effective than any martial art. Quote Link to comment
homerx Posted October 31, 2003 Share Posted October 31, 2003 alexis, Watch ka ng martial arts competitions, pag may bumagsak hinto yung laro, then wait hanggang itayo sya before the match re-starts. IMHO, kaya sila talo sa UFC hindi hardcore yung laro nila. Tapos meron pa silang specific zones na dapat dun mo lang tatamaan. Meron pang padding sa head, minsan sa chest pa. In real life, you can't tell a thug to stand back until you get back on your feet. Sa palagay ko dun sila nagkamali. When you think about it, sa dami ng mga marunong mag martial arts sa Pinas, ilan na ba ang nakita mo na nagamit niya ito? Ako wala pa. Quote Link to comment
al_simmons Posted November 1, 2003 Share Posted November 1, 2003 fortunately no one wants to mess with me. I haven't used my skill on anyone yet and hopefully i wouldnt need to. even my friends who are certifide black belts still have hesitations when we spar or play around. The aim of the martial arts is simply defense, and if possible that any confrontation be avoided, then better. Developing a certaing chi field around you that creates hesitation for opponents or threats help avoid these confrontations. Quote Link to comment
al_simmons Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 a sculptor endeavors to free the image from the stone, a martial artist trains to free himself of his limitations... Quote Link to comment
mig 22 Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 Anyone knows who teaches capoiera here in manila preferably in south of the metro. Paki-include na rin kung saan may nag22ro ng combat aikido or combat judo, gusto ko na ring maging grappler tulad ni baki or ni jack hammer. Quote Link to comment
IdealGuy Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 It's nice to know that there aren't any arrogant martial artists here. Truly, martial arts teaches one to be at peace with himself and with others. Quote Link to comment
joel Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 i saw another mixed martial arts game, "Pride FC", i thindi it is based in japan, ok yung format, parang UFC in the early days, you can strike your opponent while he's lying on the ground, but it is illegal to use your elbows and head. kaya wala pa ring tatalo sa UFC, yung early days nya, the time when you can kick your opponent on the ground, use head buts and no time limit, i think yung champion nung unang UFC is a frenc guy using savate Quote Link to comment
pinktip Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 Interesting to know there are still traditionalists in our midst. Im taking up Jiujitsu and Yawyan. Plain. Simple. Efficient. Try me Ok ah, where are you taking up your Yaw Yan, i like to learn that. Ok ka siguro ma ka spar, ma action tiyak... rather "spar" with a girl thank you Quote Link to comment
TEQUILAJOE Posted November 2, 2003 Share Posted November 2, 2003 Im a practice under erwin tagle of submission sport, known to the Philippines MMA circle as "PASUKUAN". i've discoverd its practicality and effectivity. i've been practicing this for about a year now and i can tell you it has been effective both physically and mentally. Quote Link to comment
homerx Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 Dyan nagkamali nanaman yung Pride FC, nagiging soft sila if they take away some moves. Actually, kahit UFC nagiging soft na, meron nang weight brackets, masmaganda nung early days, walang weight classes. Quote Link to comment
al_simmons Posted November 3, 2003 Share Posted November 3, 2003 tahimik mga martial artists ah! siguro nag memeditate...hehehehe Quote Link to comment
mallninja Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Mallninja signing in (with a handle like that, of course I'm interested in the arts)... Just a brief background as I have to backread a lot. No real experience whatsoever. Had a couple of sessions at Red Corner. Advanced to Yellow Belt in Karate via AAK. I read and watch a lot of flicks though. <<< poser Quote Link to comment
propaganda Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 "I know Kung Fu." "Show me." AAAAAAAAAAAAH! Matrix na bukas. Quote Link to comment
Imperator Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 Paging SARGONG WALANG HUMPAY: pare, I'm interested in training with GM Andy Abrian. I contacted him once by telephone via a telephone number provided on the www.visayanmartialarts.com website and the old man was really nice and humble. so he's good ha? contrary to what bonito99's friend (who I know personally) told me. i hope you will take the time to email me pare. or PM me here. or give me your cellphone (sorry I don't have a cellphone right now as I just lost my phone). did you also train in Kali Ilustrisimo? I'd like that too. Quote Link to comment
poknat Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 anyone know where i can learn krav maga? its the technique used by the israeli special forces. but i'd have to agree with homerx. no amount of martial arts would realistically stop successive shots from an automatic weapon fired at a range of 5-10 meters. plus you dont really need to much training to fire a gun. Quote Link to comment
plicker Posted November 4, 2003 Share Posted November 4, 2003 hello good thing marami din palang interesado sa topic na to i am currently into muay thai, freestyle wrestling, and dekiti tirsia siradascorrection lang sir joel ang unang nanalo sa ufc is a brazilian namely royce gracie Quote Link to comment
HighVoltageLover Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 hello good thing marami din palang interesado sa topic na to i am currently into muay thai, freestyle wrestling, and dekiti tirsia siradascorrection lang sir joel ang unang nanalo sa ufc is a brazilian namely royce gracie When it comes to grappling saludo ako sa mga Gracie, but nung nakita konghalos lahat ng mga fighters nila ay "nilamog" ni Kazushi Sakuraba parang nawalaang bilib ko sa Brazilian Jujitsu, yung Gracie jujitsu kasi is the same as Japanesejujitsu minodify lang ng tatay nila na si Helio Gracie. Pero given a choice Filipino Martial Arts pa din ang pinaka-complete fighting systempara akin. Weapons or Empty hands. FMA still kicks ass! Quote Link to comment
Necro_Death Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Is a 26 year old to old to learn martial arts, aikido it is? how much does it cost to start? Quote Link to comment
mojo_mike Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Hello everyone! Nice to see this topic at manila tonight. I'm training with the Doce Pares group in Cebu. I agree with SargongWalangHumpay, FMA kicks ass! Would recommend FMA than other styles because it is very comprehensive yet simple. You can apply it even when you reach at an old age and also applicable for most, if not all, weather conditions. If the art is mostly kicking, it is difficult to fight when wearing heavy shoes during rain or snow or on a slippery ground. For a grappler, it would also be disadvantageous if the ground has lots of rocks and stones. It is not even recommended for multiple attackers. FMA covers from weapons to empty hands and at different ranges of attack. Necro_Death, it's never too old to learn martial arts. However, it is recommended to start at a very young age especially for aikido because it will be easier to learn ukemi (art of falling in response to a technique). I say 26 is still a good age to start but truly, the answer would depend on the physical condition of the person rather than age. I've seen older people train and did very good. The cost of training depends on several factors (location, intructor, etc.) Quote Link to comment
HighVoltageLover Posted November 6, 2003 Share Posted November 6, 2003 Hello everyone! Nice to see this topic at manila tonight. I'm training with the Doce Pares group in Cebu. I agree with SargongWalangHumpay, FMA kicks ass! Would recommend FMA than other styles because it is very comprehensive yet simple. You can apply it even when you reach at an old age and also applicable for most, if not all, weather conditions. If the art is mostly kicking, it is difficult to fight when wearing heavy shoes during rain or snow or on a slippery ground. For a grappler, it would also be disadvantageous if the ground has lots of rocks and stones. It is not even recommended for multiple attackers. FMA covers from weapons to empty hands and at different ranges of attack. Necro_Death, it's never too old to learn martial arts. However, it is recommended to start at a very young age especially for aikido because it will be easier to learn ukemi (art of falling in response to a technique). I say 26 is still a good age to start but truly, the answer would depend on the physical condition of the person rather than age. I've seen older people train and did very good. The cost of training depends on several factors (location, intructor, etc.) Mabuhay ang mga Escrimador! I am very glad that there are FMA practitionershere in MTC. Ever wondered why there are no FMA fighters in UFC,PrideFC? because FMA techniques are designed to maim and k*ll. I once came across anarticle a few months back wherein an organizer said that FMA is to extreme tobe included in mixed martial arts competitions. The ironic thing is while FMA is a dying art here in our country, foreign FMA practitioners are earninng big bucks. Especially american insructors. Even military and U.S. law enforcement agencies use FMA in their hand to handcombat training. Officials in the National Sports Commission should reconsider and declare FMAas the national sport. Quote Link to comment
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