Duterte's Presidency : Expectations, Controversies, Rants, Etc.

[jopoc]

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/807080/duterte-blasts-female-senator-shes-immoral-an-adulterer

 

really? how cheap can he get? personal attacks,,,,, wow!!!!

and he is accusing the senator of cheating as if he was never guilty of the same thing....

[daphne loves derby]

bigla ata tayong naging sensitive, samantalang nung eleksyon eh halos lahat ng kandidato may name calling sa bawat isa.

 

tapos sasabihin, hindi na eleksyon ngayon. does not matter, dahil nasabi mo na at narinig na yun ng tao eleksyon o hinde.

 

patas lang.. lahat ginagawa ito

 

wait wait wait.. im not saying that this is correct, i am just being ready for "biglang naging sensitive" posts

Edited August 17, 2016 by daphne loves derby

[rooster69ph]

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/807080/duterte-blasts-female-senator-shes-immoral-an-adulterer

 

really? how cheap can he get? personal attacks,,,,, wow!!!!

and he is accusing the senator of cheating as if he was never guilty of the same thing....

 

para bang nagpasabog na naman pero sabi di naman daw niya sigurado?

 

Sa showbiz tawag diyan tsismis ...

 

so the president in essence is spreading rumors???

[daphne loves derby]

 

para bang nagpasabog na naman pero sabi di naman daw niya sigurado?

 

Sa showbiz tawag diyan tsismis ...

 

so the president in essence is spreading rumors???

 

It happens, like Pnoy's claim of Abu sayaff's kidnap plan to Kris A. (to hell with that)

Pres Du30 even said HE OWNS evidences about her (De Lima)

 

kawawa naman si De Lima, naiiyak na sa interview...

Edited August 17, 2016 by daphne loves derby

[haroots2]

kawawa naman si De Lima, naiiyak na sa interview...

 

http://www.rappler.com/nation/143360-de-lima-duterte-attacks-very-foul

 

Sayang dapat before the election ito sinabi, hindi sana siya nanalo.

[rooster69ph]

 

It happens, like Pnoy's claim of Abu sayaff's kidnap plan to Kris A. (to hell with that)

Pres Du30 even said HE OWNS evidences about her (De Lima)

 

kawawa naman si De Lima, naiiyak na sa interview...

 

Actually wala akong pakialam kay De Lima

 

What bothers me if if we have a president that habitually comes up with rumors

 

well and good if he has evidences ... pero diba sabi niya “But in fairness, I would never say [clearly] that the driver gave (the money) to her but by the looks of it, she has it,” he said.

Read more: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/807080/duterte-blasts-female-senator-shes-immoral-an-adulterer#ixzz4HaOXuoij

 

[Tres Picos]

oh the latest on the Duterteserye

 

it's actually foul for a president to do that, it's below the belt

 

De Lima's attacks on her were on EJKs and Human Rights, not

on PDut's personal side

[rooster69ph]

 

bakit naman si rooster dapat kasama rin?

hindi ba pwede ikaw lang?

 

Mismo ...

 

Di naman ako sangayon sa sinusuportahan niyang patayan

[jopoc]

bigla ata tayong naging sensitive, samantalang nung eleksyon eh halos lahat ng kandidato may name calling sa bawat isa.

 

tapos sasabihin, hindi na eleksyon ngayon. does not matter, dahil nasabi mo na at narinig na yun ng tao eleksyon o hinde.

 

patas lang.. lahat ginagawa ito

 

wait wait wait.. im not saying that this is correct, i am just being ready for "biglang naging sensitive" posts

 

 

tapos na elections... may nanalo na... tapos na ang personalan.... it is about time we do what is good for the country....

 

de lima is just doing a check and balance on duterte.... and he goes personal on her?

no wonder like his followers esp in social media, instead of addressing the issues, ad hominem ang attacks.

 

 

 

It happens, like Pnoy's claim of Abu sayaff's kidnap plan to Kris A. (to hell with that)

Pres Du30 even said HE OWNS evidences about her (De Lima)

 

kawawa naman si De Lima, naiiyak na sa interview...

 

uhmmm.... apples and oranges.... wala namang personal attack si Pnoy sa abu sayyaf....

in fairness to Pnoy, he never resulted to personal and below the belt attacks.

 

 

Why doesn't Delima concentrate on the human rights of victims like the casino lady worker who got shot in the head? Or the SAF 44? Or the Mendiola Massacre victims?

 

mason, that is the job of the police..... to take care of our human rights.... the question is, who polices the police in case of abuse?

[daphne loves derby]

 

 

tapos na elections... may nanalo na... tapos na ang personalan.... it is about time we do what is good for the country....

 

de lima is just doing a check and balance on duterte.... and he goes personal on her?

no wonder like his followers esp in social media, instead of addressing the issues, ad hominem ang attacks.

 

 

 

uhmmm.... apples and oranges.... wala namang personal attack si Pnoy sa abu sayyaf....

in fairness to Pnoy, he never resulted to personal and below the belt attacks.

 

 

 

mason, that is the job of the police..... to take care of our human rights.... the question is, who polices the police in case of abuse?

 

everybody knows that its not just check and balance ang habol ni de lima kundi pati publicity. she has a looonnggg history of making such noises para magpapansin but in the end, puro intro lang hindi naman natatapos.

 

tao lang din si Digong, sabi nga niya, nagtitimpi na sya ng matagal kaya ayaw niya pangalanan pero sige pa rin sa tirada kaya ayun, hindi na niya napigilan. parang di mo kilalang taklesa si digong.he speaks what he feels. i wonder kung bakit nagugulat ka pa sa ganyang style niya.

[haroots2]

Mismo ...

 

Di naman ako sangayon sa sinusuportahan niyang patayan

 

Kaya nga baligtad. para maramdaman mo yung takot kayang ibigay ng mga halang ang kaluluwa. Na they better off dead than roaming the streets victimizing innocent victims. Ill handle the Brgy. Capt. and you handle the hoodlum. Palibhaa di pa kayo nasasampolan ng mga kriminal para makaramdam sa kanila ng takot pang araw araw.

Edited August 18, 2016 by haroots2

[rooster69ph]

 

Kaya nga baligtad. para maramdaman mo yung takot kayang ibigay ng mga halang ang kaluluwa. Na they better off dead than roaming the streets victimizing innocent victims. Ill handle the Brgy. Capt. and you handle the hoodlum. Palibhaa di pa kayo nasasampolan ng mga kriminal para makaramdam sa kanila ng takot pang araw araw.

 

Huwag mo akong paikutin ...It not a question of whether or not they (criminals) are better off dead or not ... it is a question of legality.

 

If you tell me that EJK is legalized then go ahead, for the meantime since it is not then the government has not right to implement EJK.

 

Ano ba akala mo...hindi ako nakakaramdam ng takot pag nasa kalsada, sa bus o jeep na baka mabiktima ng holdup, agaw cel phone, mandurukot? Na di ako nagaalala kung ano ang maaring mangyari sa aking anak. Sino naman ang nagbigay sa iyo ng idea na yan na ikaw at mga kabaranggay mo lang ang bukod-tanging may banta na mabiktima?

 

Kahit pinagpapatay na ninyo ang "criminal" hindi pa rin totally mawawala sa akin ang takot, na dapat alerto at magingat na mabiktima ng masasamang loob. Don't tell me that because you live in the slums then mas expose kayo sa risk na mabiktima as compared to those living in gated subdivisions. The fact of the matter is, kung magnanakaw yan mga addict na mahihirap para may pambili alangan mas gugustuhin nila kanain ang mayaman kaysa mahirap. Crime can strike anywhere and to anyone anuman ang economic status nila sa society.

 

Simpleng tanong na isang diretchahang sagot mula sa iyo ...can you assure me that totally I won't become a victim if I too will support your stand on this matter?

 

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Now it's a totally different matter as far as pushing for EJK and simply shrug of as "collateral damage" those innocent victims killed because of mistaken identity, abuse of power or worst personal vendetta. Madali mong sabihin ok lang na may collateral damage sa EJK ang tanong nga namin ni Jopoc sa iyo paulit-ulit na ayaw mo naman sagutin ng isang simpleng Yes or No eh kung payag ka bang maging collateral damage, na kung di ka aangal at patuloy mo pa rin susuportahan ang EJK kung ikaw o ang mahal mo sa buhay ang napatay na. So is it a yes or no?

As we always say put your feet where your mouth is. Walk the talk ... then maybe kudos to you for making that stand.

Edited August 18, 2016 by rooster69ph

[daphne loves derby]

Now this is getting exciting!

'GUMAGAMIT AT MAARING NAGBEBENTA RIN'

Police say it has list of celebrity clients of Karen Bordador, boyfriend

- See more at: http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/578025/news/metro/police-say-it-has-list-of-celebrity-clients-of-karen-bordador-boyfriend/top_picks?order=1#sthash.NMMVvPRo.dpuf

 

The District Anti-Illegal Drugs Division of the Southern Police District on Wednesday said it has in its possession a list of actors, singers, and models who are clients of radio disc jockey Karen Bordador and her boyfriend, suspected drug pusher Emilio Lim.

In an exclusive report by Marisol Abduhrahman on "24 Oras," SPD-DAID chief Sr. Insp. Wilfredo Sanghel urged the couple's clients to surrender to the authorities or else, face arrest.

"Or else makakakuha kami ng lead para ma-catch up namin sila. Gumagamit sila at maaring nagbebenta rin sila," Sanghel said.

Several customers of the couple supposedly also include children of wealth families and other known personalities.

[daphne loves derby]

 

So why is there no statement on her supposed drugs involvement? this is just plain drama and pagkuha ng simpatya at awa sa tao.. so out of her character..

Edited August 18, 2016 by daphne loves derby

[rooster69ph]

 

everybody knows that its not just check and balance ang habol ni de lima kundi pati publicity. she has a looonnggg history of making such noises para magpapansin but in the end, puro intro lang hindi naman natatapos.

 

tao lang din si Digong, sabi nga niya, nagtitimpi na sya ng matagal kaya ayaw niya pangalanan pero sige pa rin sa tirada kaya ayun, hindi na niya napigilan. parang di mo kilalang taklesa si digong.he speaks what he feels. i wonder kung bakit nagugulat ka pa sa ganyang style niya.

 

yun pagiging "taklesa" ni Digong for me its a convenient excuse every time may nasabing hindi maganda o naayon. Pero he should be held accountable for whatever comes out of his mouth.

 

Naniniwala kang di lang nakapagpigil si Digong? Or maybe dahil next week na kasi ang start ng senate hearing ...ayun inunahan na niya.

 

 

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[everyman]

Welcome to the New Order.

 

Change has Come.

 

The level of discourse has gone down to gutter level. Salamat Tatay Digong!

 

 

 

Yung diskursyo na nababasa lang nating dati sa mga Facebook comments, nag-level-up na.

 

Ito ang tunay na pagbabago. At nagbubunyi ang mga troll.

[Edmund Dantes]

 

everybody knows that its not just check and balance ang habol ni de lima kundi pati publicity. she has a looonnggg history of making such noises para magpapansin but in the end, puro intro lang hindi naman natatapos.

 

tao lang din si Digong, sabi nga niya, nagtitimpi na sya ng matagal kaya ayaw niya pangalanan pero sige pa rin sa tirada kaya ayun, hindi na niya napigilan. parang di mo kilalang taklesa si digong.he speaks what he feels. i wonder kung bakit nagugulat ka pa sa ganyang style niya.

 

Dapat sana sa senate inquiry na ito, si Sen. Lacson na lang mamuno. Mas qualified sya bilang dating PNP chief. At least mas ma-expect mo na alam nya itatanong sa pulis regarding ano mang lapses ng procedure.

 

Actually kung titignan, tama din si Digong dito. Sya yun laging nasa recieving end ng political at legal harassment. Naalala nyo ba nung sobrang pina-power trip ito ni De Lima? Tag team pa sila noon ni Etha Rosales. Kung ano anong character assassination din ginawa ni De Lima sa taong ito. Matagal ng sinabi sa kanya na huwag masyado problemahin si Duterte at ayusin nya problema sa Bilibid. Harinawa tama si Digong. And let us not forget, kung ano anong dirty tricks ginawa ng partidong Liberal nung election sirain lang sya.

 

Tama ka showbiz talaga si De Lima ever since. Nag ice bucket challenge, kinastigo yun mismong judge na di pumabor kay vhong navarro. San ka makakakita nyan lol. KSP talaga si De Lima. Ayan tuloy nakahanap sya katapat.

 

Matagal ko ng sinasabi anong karapatan nya mangimbestiga samantalang sya nga itong napakaraming dapat sagutin.

[Edmund Dantes]

Welcome to the New Order.

 

Change has Come.

 

The level of discourse has gone down to gutter level. Salamat Tatay Digong!

 

 

 

Yung diskursyo na nababasa lang nating dati sa mga Facebook comments, nag-level-up na.

 

Ito ang tunay na pagbabago. At nagbubunyi ang mga troll.

 

Di na naman ito bago. Matagal na batuhan ng putik sa history ng pulitika natin. Matagal na ang political harassment. Di pa nga naging presidente si Duterte he has consistantly been on the receiving end. GUmastos pa nga liberal para sa commercial ni Trillanes di ba?

 

Nagkataon lang, aminadong butangero yun binangga nila at mas magaling mangbato ng baho kung ganun din lang labanan.

 

Tawag dyan, nakahanap katapat. lol

[daphne loves derby]

 

Di na naman ito bago. Matagal na batuhan ng putik sa history ng pulitika natin. Matagal na ang political harassment. Di pa nga naging presidente si Duterte he has consistantly been on the receiving end. GUmastos pa nga liberal para sa commercial ni Trillanes di ba?

 

Nagkataon lang, aminadong butangero yun binangga nila at mas magaling mangbato ng baho kung ganun din lang labanan.

 

Tawag dyan, nakahanap katapat. lol

the most appropriate word edmund is - KARMA

 

The prosecutor now being persecuted

 

[Edmund Dantes]

the most appropriate word edmund is - KARMA

 

The prosecutor now being persecuted

 

 

Abuse of power daw nga sabi ni De Lima. Pero di ba nung sya DOJ secretary tinatadtad din ng kaso yan si Duterte. And hinarap naman yan ng buong tapang. Sabi nga noon ni Duterte, mina-ma'am nya pa yan si De Lima kahit sya senior sa university nila.

 

What goes around comes around. Lahat ng binibintang ni De Lima, ginawa nya din dati kay Digong. Nga lang, mas butangero si Digong.

[everyman]

 

Di na naman ito bago. Matagal na batuhan ng putik sa history ng pulitika natin. Matagal na ang political harassment. Di pa nga naging presidente si Duterte he has consistantly been on the receiving end. GUmastos pa nga liberal para sa commercial ni Trillanes di ba?

 

Nagkataon lang, aminadong butangero yun binangga nila at mas magaling mangbato ng baho kung ganun din lang labanan.

 

Tawag dyan, nakahanap katapat. lol

 

 

The main difference is that El Presidente is doing the dirty work himself knowing he has the shield of Presidential immunity.

 

If you think that mudslinging is acceptable because "everyone does it anyway," I do not. I expect more from the President, as we all should.

 

If this is his method for silencing critics, we should all be worried.

[Alex_Corvis]

 

Huwag mo akong paikutin ...It not a question of whether or not they (criminals) are better off dead or not ... it is a question of legality.

 

If you tell me that EJK is legalized then go ahead, for the meantime since it is not then the government has not right to implement EJK.

 

====================

 

Now it's a totally different matter as far as pushing for EJK and simply shrug of as "collateral damage" those innocent victims killed because of mistaken identity, abuse of power or worst personal vendetta. Madali mong sabihin ok lang na may collateral damage sa EJK ang tanong nga namin ni Jopoc sa iyo paulit-ulit na ayaw mo naman sagutin ng isang simpleng Yes or No eh kung payag ka bang maging collateral damage, na kung di ka aangal at patuloy mo pa rin susuportahan ang EJK kung ikaw o ang mahal mo sa buhay ang napatay na. So is it a yes or no?

As we always say put your feet where your mouth is. Walk the talk ... then maybe kudos to you for making that stand.

 

Makikisingit lang po. As far as I'm aware even Chief Bato condones EJK. Hindi sya pabor dyan. It is wrong, it is illegal. Period. And walang go signal or anything na nag implement nun. Medyo na twist lang yung command na "Pag nanlaban.. k*ll Them" ang nababasa lang "k*ll Them"

 

Yung mga mistaken identity syempre dapat imbestigahan.

[jopoc]

 

everybody knows that its not just check and balance ang habol ni de lima kundi pati publicity. she has a looonnggg history of making such noises para magpapansin but in the end, puro intro lang hindi naman natatapos.

 

tao lang din si Digong, sabi nga niya, nagtitimpi na sya ng matagal kaya ayaw niya pangalanan pero sige pa rin sa tirada kaya ayun, hindi na niya napigilan. parang di mo kilalang taklesa si digong.he speaks what he feels. i wonder kung bakit nagugulat ka pa sa ganyang style niya.

 

 

everybody may have a motive, like digong and his "hindi ako tatakbo" drama to make it appear na hindi sya interested when interesado naman talaga sya maging president.... kasma yan... but it is not a license to be personal about it....

 

kahit si Pnoy noon, you'd never hear him attack publicly a private matter of his enemies... narinig mo ba syang ikwento mga sexcapades ni Bong Revilla? No.... he attacks a public official on his faults as a public officer.... walang below the belt attack.

 

eh si digong? anong kinalaman ng adultery ni de lima dito?

 

hindi nya mapigilan? eh presidente sya ng pilipinas... he should be the first one to show constraint and chivalry... hindi ba?

 

 

 

 

So why is there no statement on her supposed drugs involvement? this is just plain drama and pagkuha ng simpatya at awa sa tao.. so out of her character..

 

 

maybe because she does not want to dignify a bare accusation...

he who accuses must prove.... that is always the rule...

 

 

 

 

Dapat sana sa senate inquiry na ito, si Sen. Lacson na lang mamuno. Mas qualified sya bilang dating PNP chief. At least mas ma-expect mo na alam nya itatanong sa pulis regarding ano mang lapses ng procedure.

 

Actually kung titignan, tama din si Digong dito. Sya yun laging nasa recieving end ng political at legal harassment. Naalala nyo ba nung sobrang pina-power trip ito ni De Lima? Tag team pa sila noon ni Etha Rosales. Kung ano anong character assassination din ginawa ni De Lima sa taong ito. Matagal ng sinabi sa kanya na huwag masyado problemahin si Duterte at ayusin nya problema sa Bilibid. Harinawa tama si Digong. And let us not forget, kung ano anong dirty tricks ginawa ng partidong Liberal nung election sirain lang sya.

 

Tama ka showbiz talaga si De Lima ever since. Nag ice bucket challenge, kinastigo yun mismong judge na di pumabor kay vhong navarro. San ka makakakita nyan lol. KSP talaga si De Lima. Ayan tuloy nakahanap sya katapat.

 

Matagal ko ng sinasabi anong karapatan nya mangimbestiga samantalang sya nga itong napakaraming dapat sagutin.

 

 

character assassination in what sense? in investigating him for his role sa DDS? hindi ba trabaho ni leila yun sa SOJ?

kung character assassination yan... mas lalong character assassination din yung kay corona, JPE, Jinggoy, Bong Revilla and even Binay.... hindi ba? pero never mo narinig si de lima banatan sila on their private lives.

 

 

leila de lima is not my favorite person... tama ka KSP na kung KSP.... pero is it worth na yung president titirahin ang bedroom activities nya??? foul yun...

 

 

 

 

Di na naman ito bago. Matagal na batuhan ng putik sa history ng pulitika natin. Matagal na ang political harassment. Di pa nga naging presidente si Duterte he has consistantly been on the receiving end. GUmastos pa nga liberal para sa commercial ni Trillanes di ba?

 

Nagkataon lang, aminadong butangero yun binangga nila at mas magaling mangbato ng baho kung ganun din lang labanan.

 

Tawag dyan, nakahanap katapat. lol

 

 

even the ads against digong are against his supposed involvement in the killings (which still remain an issue until now)... sino ba ang mahilig magsabi na "papatayin ko kayo?" ang then you call the accusations of killing by duterte character assassination?

 

 

 

 

Abuse of power daw nga sabi ni De Lima. Pero di ba nung sya DOJ secretary tinatadtad din ng kaso yan si Duterte. And hinarap naman yan ng buong tapang. Sabi nga noon ni Duterte, mina-ma'am nya pa yan si De Lima kahit sya senior sa university nila.

 

What goes around comes around. Lahat ng binibintang ni De Lima, ginawa nya din dati kay Digong. Nga lang, mas butangero si Digong.

 

and you are proud to have a president na Butangero?

 

that even the UN na andami nating pinakinabang dun eh inaaway?

[daphne loves derby]

 

kahit si Pnoy noon, you'd never hear him attack publicly a private matter of his enemies... narinig mo ba syang ikwento mga sexcapades ni Bong Revilla? No.... he attacks a public official on his faults as a public officer.... walang below the belt attack.

 

 

Well tama ka naman, kahit si Pnoy ay pikon, di naman namemersonal. Insensitive kasi un eh! lol

 

maybe because she does not want to dignify a bare accusation...

he who accuses must prove.... that is always the rule...

 

 

Maybe. Or maybe because totoo at ayaw niyang lumaki pa. Maybe napagsabihan nung lover na wag patulan dahil baka sya mapatay pag nalamang meron ngang link sa droga. Its just so out of her character. The usual De Lima I expect would be like this:

 

" I Strongly condemned your allegations about my drug involvement and dare you to produce evidences and investigate me, I am not afraid of you"

 

kaso naging paawa effect.. anyare??

 

Edited August 18, 2016 by daphne loves derby

[rooster69ph]

 

Makikisingit lang po. As far as I'm aware even Chief Bato condones EJK. Hindi sya pabor dyan. It is wrong, it is illegal. Period. And walang go signal or anything na nag implement nun. Medyo na twist lang yung command na "Pag nanlaban.. k*ll Them" ang nababasa lang "k*ll Them"

 

Yung mga mistaken identity syempre dapat imbestigahan.

 

Well on record that is the "politically correct" statement to be said publicly

 

In reality we don't know if this is being implemented.

 

But what he said or do is another story ...

 

 

Twisted or not, the point here is that for some of the supportersviewed EJK as something acceptable (assuming it is really happening) .. and tag those innocent killed as "collateral damage". So kailan naging ang tama ang isang mali ... kaya nga kahit si Bato is condoning it on record.

 

Kaya nga ang tanong namin sa kanila, kung pabor sila at yan talaga ang paninindigan nila, eh tatanggapin ba nila ng maluwag sa loob kapag sila o ang mahal nila sa buhay ang naging "collateral damage". O baka naman kasi ok lang na collateral damage kasi hindi naman apektado, pero kapag sa kanila nagyari bigla silang magbabago ng paninindigan at biglang pagmumurahin ang administrasyon.