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Ang premise is KUNG ang pulis ang pasimuno... Hindi yun pinagpipilitan mong pulis ang pasimuno. Wag mong paikultin to favor ur argument.

 

That 4 letter word makes a lot of difference.

 

So yun mga napatay sa oprasyon na umano'y nanlaban ...for you its ok to assume they are really guilty without proving pero if its the other way around for arguument's sake big deal. Wow... You want proof? if you recall tinuligsa ko yun pinatay na nasagkot sa vehicular accident na naka motor. Sabi ko imposibleng makapaglaban at mangagaw ng baril at maiputok sa pulis ang isang taong nakaposas ang kamay sa likod. Yet despite these you kept on defending the police until the video came out and yun spokeperson mismo ng hpg ang nagsalita na about the irregularities.

 

Wala akong pakialam kung ano ang ginagawa ng iba... Ako ang kausap mo so un akin lang ang kaya kong sagutin. So mayroon ka bang maipapakita na sinabi ko na ok ang patayan dati na pinagtanggol ko yun mga patayan na nangyayari dati na inaangal mo? Madali naman sabihin WALA di po ba kung wala naman maipakitang suporta sa malisyosong bintang.

 

Ang hirap kasi, hindi mo alam kung ano ang pinagsasabi mo. Puro ka palusot. Puro ka "Kung". Eh pano din "Kung" hindi naman pala pulis gumagawa nyan? Anong extra judicial killings ba pinagsasabi mo?

 

Yun cardboard killings? Sigurado ka ba na pulis me gawa nyan? Walang mangyayari satin kung puro ka "kung". Kasi kung dadaanin lang sa "kung" bakit yun pulis lang ang ine-entertain mong possibility? Di ba me bagong lead na sa kasong yan? Me mga lumalabas na nga na lead na hitman ng mismong sindikato gumagawa nito para di kumanta mga street level pushers na hindi nila mahawakan sa betlog.

 

O baka naman yun mga napapatay sa police encounters? Pano kung me warrant? Pano kung legit buy bust operation pala? Pano kung hot pursuit? Maraming pwedeng kung.

 

Pero KUNG pulis gumawa, mas maganda kasi me report lagi mga encounter at mas madali imbestigahan

 

Yun naman nabaril sa loob ng mobil. Hindi pa ba tapos yan reklamo mo dyan? Di ba sinibak na yun pulis at nasampahan na ng murder? O ano pa? At itong insidente na ito, lumalarawan ba yan sa lahat?

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Good News:

 

Duterte may get emergency powers to fix traffic soon —ally -

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/577583/news/nation/duterte-may-get-emergency-powers-to-fix-traffic-soon-ally#sthash.OKHDjeDc.dpuf

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Napansin ko lang na the "noisiest" critics of Duterte on "human rights" grounds for the EJK are groups affiliated/financed by the losing presidential candidates, especially the Yellow Army and the Dark Lord.

 

The same groups who were eerily silent on SAF44, Kidapawan Massacre, the killing of UP leftists as "NPA sympathizers", the killing of indigenous tribes and environmentalists who opposed the mining and logging concerns of the oligarchy, the killing/intimidation/destruction of houses of the farmers of hacienda luisita. Where were they then? Mukhang naglitawan lang yung "human rights advocates" na yan once natalo mga manok nila. Sheer hypocrisy.

 

As true human rights advocacy is concerned, I'd put more truth in "laging rally" leftist "communists", who are, at least, consistent. They have been involved in rallies/actions against these killings regardless of who the prez is. Like this:

 

Reds pull out of Duterte’s 'anti-people' drug war

The Communist Party of the Philippines tagged the anti-drug war of the Duterte administration as anti-people and undemocratic.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/08/14/1613396/reds-pull-out-dutertes-anti-people-drug-war

 

The current armchair/social media warriors who showed up post election to bash Duterte on this has the feel of paid hacks or , at least, useful idiots AKA dupes. Look up ACDC in media parlance.

 

Say what you want about the guy, but he delivers, unlike Abnoy and Co.

 

8 killed as troops launch assault vs. armed Cotabato drug group

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/577585/news/regions/8-killed-as-troops-launch-assault-vs-armed-cotabato-drug-group/just_in#sthash.PAfwxUmv.dpuf

 

Pusher at supplier umano ng droga sa mga club, huli sa Pasig

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/video/380422/balitanghali/pusher-at-supplier-umano-ng-droga-sa-mga-club-huli-sa-pasig

 

P4.5M in cash, shabu seized in raids on 2 Cebu jail facilities

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/577460/news/regions/p4-5m-in-cash-shabu-seized-in-raids-on-2-cebu-jail-facilities/most_read#sthash.t9XSdMl5.dpuf

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Ang hirap kasi, hindi mo alam kung ano ang pinagsasabi mo. Puro ka palusot. Puro ka "Kung". Eh pano din "Kung" hindi naman pala pulis gumagawa nyan? Anong extra judicial killings ba pinagsasabi mo?

 

Yun cardboard killings? Sigurado ka ba na pulis me gawa nyan? Walang mangyayari satin kung puro ka "kung". Kasi kung dadaanin lang sa "kung" bakit yun pulis lang ang ine-entertain mong possibility? Di ba me bagong lead na sa kasong yan? Me mga lumalabas na nga na lead na hitman ng mismong sindikato gumagawa nito para di kumanta mga street level pushers na hindi nila mahawakan sa betlog.

 

O baka naman yun mga napapatay sa police encounters? Pano kung me warrant? Pano kung legit buy bust operation pala? Pano kung hot pursuit? Maraming pwedeng kung.

 

Pero KUNG pulis gumawa, mas maganda kasi me report lagi mga encounter at mas madali imbestigahan

 

Yun naman nabaril sa loob ng mobil. Hindi pa ba tapos yan reklamo mo dyan? Di ba sinibak na yun pulis at nasampahan na ng murder? O ano pa? At itong insidente na ito, lumalarawan ba yan sa lahat?

Kaya nga sinabi "kung" ang pulis ang pumatay kasi ejk lang yang kung sila nga ang pumatay kung hindi e di hindi....bakit sigurado ka malinis ang kapulisan sa lahat ng patayan? Napatunayan ko na yan dun sa pinatay nilang naka accident. Diba pinagtatanggol mo pa ang pulis until lumabas yun video at nagsalita na ang hpg. Masyadong garapalan na di ba kung ipagpilitan mo pa. Di ako nagrereklamo...ipinamumukha ko lang ang soblang bias mo. Masyadong obvious na ayaw mo pa pagdudahan ang illegal na pinaggagawa ng kapulisan kahit na nasa harapan na naiulat kung ano ang supposedly nangyari. Puros ka mas mabuti may report may report ... Gosh report my ass eh patay na yun taong hindi dapat pinatay. Mabubuhay ba ng report yun pinatay?

 

Pero regardless of sino ang pumatay problema ng kapulisan yan. They may be winning the battle on drugs but not against criminality in general specifically on murder crimes. Hate to say this but this is the reality...kung ano ang ginaling ng intelligence nila sa drugs ganun naman ka bano ang intelligence nila sa mga patayan na nangyayari. Happy ka ba sa di masolusyonan na pagdami ng murder...ok lang kasi hail digong. Pad drugs wow daming huli, daming sumuko, daming pinatay na lumaban. Sa murder crimes all you can say na accomplishment is may bagong lead. Great...good job

 

O mapapakita mo na ba yun sinabi kong sinusuportahan ko ang mga patayan nun panahon na hindi si diging ang presidente? Wala ano? Wag assuming kasi...mahirap magbintang.

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Kaya nga sinabi "kung" ang pulis ang pumatay kasi ejk lang yang kung sila nga ang pumatay kung hindi e di hindi....bakit sigurado ka malinis ang kapulisan sa lahat ng patayan? Napatunayan ko na yan dun sa pinatay nilang naka accident. Diba pinagtatanggol mo pa ang pulis until lumabas yun video at nagsalita na ang hpg. Masyadong garapalan na di ba kung ipagpilitan mo pa. Di ako nagrereklamo...ipinamumukha ko lang ang soblang bias mo. Masyadong obvious na ayaw mo pa pagdudahan ang illegal na pinaggagawa ng kapulisan kahit na nasa harapan na naiulat kung ano ang supposedly nangyari. Puros ka mas mabuti may report may report ... Gosh report my ass eh patay na yun taong hindi dapat pinatay. Mabubuhay ba ng report yun pinatay?

 

Pero regardless of sino ang pumatay problema ng kapulisan yan. They may be winning the battle on drugs but not against criminality in general specifically on murder crimes. Hate to say this but this is the reality...kung ano ang ginaling ng intelligence nila sa drugs ganun naman ka bano ang intelligence nila sa mga patayan na nangyayari. Happy ka ba sa di masolusyonan na pagdami ng murder...ok lang kasi hail digong. Pad drugs wow daming huli, daming sumuko, daming pinatay na lumaban. Sa murder crimes all you can say na accomplishment is may bagong lead. Great...good job

 

O mapapakita mo na ba yun sinabi kong sinusuportahan ko ang mga patayan nun panahon na hindi si diging ang presidente? Wala ano? Wag assuming kasi...mahirap magbintang.

 

Teka kelan ko kinampihan ang mga tiwaling pulis? Ang malinaw kong sinasabi case to case basis yan. Yun pumatay dun sa mobil, naimbestigahan at nasibak naman. Pero ang tanong, tama ba na lahat ng pulis na gumagamit ng baril nila paratangan na lang na kriminal sila?

 

So kung wala kang patunay na pulis nga gumagawa ng cardboard killings na yan, walang patutunguhan usapan na ito. Dahil kahit sino pwede mo na lang paratangan ng walang matiay na basehan. Puro conjectures lang ginagamit mo.

 

Sabi ko, presumption of innocence works both ways. Kung legal ang operation, kung walang irregularity na nirereklamo therefore entitled mga yan sa presumption of innoncence.

 

Ayaw mo ng imbestiga, walang kwenta pala. Eh ano na gagawin. Ay sorry sorry role mo pala dito sa thread na ito magreklamo lang at hindi magbigay ng sulusyon. Laging maghanap ng putik na ibabato sa kandidatong nanalo kahit di mo gusto. Ill keep that in mind

 

Huwag mo ako daanin sa mga semantics na palusot na ganyan. Ang pinaguusapan dito, nagreklamo at ngumawa ka din ba ng ganito nung yung magaling mong boss (ay ikaw pala boss nya) pinapapatay mga lumad at magsasaka sa hacienda nya?

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Dun sa naghahanap ng mga raid sa condo at party drugs, etong sayo (celebrity supplier from a celebrity source)

 

DJ Karen Bordador, boyfriend arrested in drug operation

http://www.rappler.com/entertainment/news/143044-radio-dj-karen-bordador-boyfriend-arrested-drug-buy-bust-operation?utm_source=Viber&utm_medium=Chat&utm_campaign=Private

 

According to a report on TV Patrol, approximately P3 million worth of ecstasy, marijuana, and marijuana oil were found at a condo unit in Pasig City on Saturday, August 13. Also found at the unit were drug paraphernalia, money, and a money counting machine.

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Dun sa naghahanap ng mga raid sa condo at party drugs, etong sayo (celebrity supplier from a celebrity source)

 

DJ Karen Bordador, boyfriend arrested in drug operation

http://www.rappler.com/entertainment/news/143044-radio-dj-karen-bordador-boyfriend-arrested-drug-buy-bust-operation?utm_source=Viber&utm_medium=Chat&utm_campaign=Private

 

According to a report on TV Patrol, approximately P3 million worth of ecstasy, marijuana, and marijuana oil were found at a condo unit in Pasig City on Saturday, August 13. Also found at the unit were drug paraphernalia, money, and a money counting machine.

Isn't there a different one where another "drug supplier to the stars" was shot dead?

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Dun sa naghahanap ng mga raid sa condo at party drugs, etong sayo (celebrity supplier from a celebrity source)

 

DJ Karen Bordador, boyfriend arrested in drug operation

http://www.rappler.com/entertainment/news/143044-radio-dj-karen-bordador-boyfriend-arrested-drug-buy-bust-operation?utm_source=Viber&utm_medium=Chat&utm_campaign=Private

 

According to a report on TV Patrol, approximately P3 million worth of ecstasy, marijuana, and marijuana oil were found at a condo unit in Pasig City on Saturday, August 13. Also found at the unit were drug paraphernalia, money, and a money counting machine.

 

 

sir, wala naman nagsasabi na bawal manghuli ng mga pushers.... wala naman kumokontra sa drive against drugs... basta ilagay sa batas... walang extra judicial killings, walang shoot to k*ll order, walang pananakot.... gawin ng tama

 

 

in the bordador case, kudos sa mga pulis who did the proper thing.... it just shows na pwede gawin without violence.

 

 

Tanginang yan naghahanap ng butas ara makabalik epal

 

bilis mo naman manghusga... kita mo naman sa photo na nakaupo lang yung tao sa tabi....

 

huwaw!

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sir, wala naman nagsasabi na bawal manghuli ng mga pushers.... wala naman kumokontra sa drive against drugs... basta ilagay sa batas... walang extra judicial killings, walang shoot to k*ll order, walang pananakot.... gawin ng tama

 

 

in the bordador case, kudos sa mga pulis who did the proper thing.... it just shows na pwede gawin without violence.

 

 

 

bilis mo naman manghusga... kita mo naman sa photo na nakaupo lang yung tao sa tabi....

 

huwaw!

 

unfortunately may mga supporters ang hindi nakakaintindi kung ano ang ibig sabihin ng salitang "gawin ng tama" ...

 

kapag tinanong nila ano ba ang dapat na gawin at yan ang sinagot mo ... hindi daw solusyon yon :lol:

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sir, wala naman nagsasabi na bawal manghuli ng mga pushers.... wala naman kumokontra sa drive against drugs... basta ilagay sa batas... walang extra judicial killings, walang shoot to k*ll order, walang pananakot.... gawin ng tama

 

 

Im with you on this principle boss.. You dont need to be a lawyer to know what is legal and not on what is happening nowadays.

 

in the bordador case, kudos sa mga pulis who did the proper thing.... it just shows na pwede gawin without violence.

 

Dont worry boss, di naman ikaw yung taong yun na atat maghanap ng mga raid sa condo at mga party drugs eh, malamang naka "seen zone" na yun ngayon at tameme na.

 

bilis mo naman manghusga... kita mo naman sa photo na nakaupo lang yung tao sa tabi....

 

huwaw!

 

Pati mga artista/model na customers nina bordador kabado na, may nakita kasing "ledger" ng mga transaction. :P :lol: :lol:

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Kaya nga, sa kampanya kontra droga, ilan ba sa mga tinugis ang buhay at ilan dyan ang nadedo. Sa mga numero pa lang, halatang halata naman na hindi naman patayin lang ang mga drug personalities main goal ng kampanya di ba? Pero kelangan talaga ikastigo natin ito sa kapulisan.

 

Updates pala sa ibang patayan

 

Kagabi sabi sa balita yun NBI nahuli yung mga chinese na hit squad na ang trabaho pumatay ng kakumpitensya nila o ng mga miyembro nila na malapit na kumanta. Kaya nga kahit sa preso nagpapatayan na yan sila. So unti unti siguro sana mas bigyan linaw kaso.

 

Bakit kasi pulis kaagad gusto nyo paginitan? Hindi ba pwedeng sila sila mismo na nagpapatayan kasi paranoid na yan sila at desperado na?

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kumusta mga naniniwalang kaya si Duterte ang big fish?

mukhang yung shame campaign nya, wa-epek sa mga shameless.

 

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/577777/news/regions/leyte-town-mayor-espinosa-back-to-work

 

 

kung lahat magiging tulad nito, duterte will end up a laughing stock.

 

True, those shameless Narco politicians are relying on the due process kaya alam nila na hindi sila basta basta makukulong and pwede naman sila mag bail kung makasuhan man. Kaya nga mas effective yung shoot to k*ll order na lang sa kanila as previously announced by Duterte.

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True, those shameless Narco politicians are relying on the due process kaya alam nila na hindi sila basta basta makukulong and pwede naman sila mag bail kung makasuhan man. Kaya nga mas effective yung shoot to k*ll order na lang sa kanila as previously announced by Duterte.

 

Bakit di makulong? walang matibay na ebidensiya? Pwede naman na gawin non-bailable

 

O eh paano kung natipuhan ka lang at pangalan mo idinawit? OK lang masampolan ka? Willing ka pa shoot to k*ll kung pangalan mo ang ibinigay nun gagong brgy captain ninyo?

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O eh paano kung natipuhan ka lang at pangalan mo idinawit? OK lang masampolan ka? Willing ka pa shoot to k*ll kung pangalan mo ang ibinigay nun gagong brgy captain ninyo?

Just keep bringing it up. Pwede din basta willing ka rin the other side of the coin. Marami rin ditong adik/pusher/hitmen that can victimize you.

Game? I can accompany you to my brgy capt. then Ill accompany you to the dark side. Tignan ko lang kung gaano kalakas ang loob mo tumuntong sa lugar naim compare dito sa thread.

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Just keep bringing it up. Pwede din basta willing ka rin the other side of the coin. Marami rin ditong adik/pusher/hitmen that can victimize you.

Game? I can accompany you to my brgy capt. then Ill accompany you to the dark side. Tignan ko lang kung gaano kalakas ang loob mo tumuntong sa lugar naim compare dito sa thread.

 

 

 

being "victimized" by criminals is a threat to everyone regardless of the administration. Kahit sabihin mo na may shoot to k*ll na nandiyan pa rin ang threat. Can you guarantee that totally mawawala yan? At tingnan mo yan argument mo ... sinong gago ang ipapain ang sarili sa criminal para mabiktima? Lahat tayo nagiingat "mabiktima" in our daily lives. Yun nga lang cel phone natin diba lagi natin kinakapa kapag sa mataong lugar para di madukot. Tapos eto ang argumento mo sasamahan mo ako sa criminal?

 

On the other hand, your logic is that you want to prevent crime by committing crime ...so what if un mapagkamalan ka o maliciously ibigay ang pangalan mo para ikaw ang ma-salvage kasi supposedly involve ka sa drugs is no different from the crimes na sinasabi mong maaring mangyari sa araw-araw.. Yan di mo kontrolado yan kasi yun mapangabuso rin ang may kagagawan niyan. Now if you tell me its ok if that happens to you then i guess you really walk the talk and therefore malakas talaga ang paninindigan mo sa issue na yan. Pero kung hindi, wow, you are suggesting something that if it happens to you then dun ka puputak?

 

bottomline is this ...we know what you want to happen or what you are supporting is not fool proof and is subject to abuse. are you willing to just accept and not complain when you happen to be a victim of the policy you are supporting.

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True, those shameless Narco politicians are relying on the due process kaya alam nila na hindi sila basta basta makukulong and pwede naman sila mag bail kung makasuhan man. Kaya nga mas effective yung shoot to k*ll order na lang sa kanila as previously announced by Duterte.

 

then if proven later na innocent pala or walang ebidensya sa tao, bubuhayin na lang na yung na shoot-to-k*ll, tama?

 

 

Just keep bringing it up. Pwede din basta willing ka rin the other side of the coin. Marami rin ditong adik/pusher/hitmen that can victimize you.

 

 

bakit naman si rooster dapat kasama rin?

hindi ba pwede ikaw lang?

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ei Mason aka James Cutter

 

still think it is Leni "the lackey"?

 

Duterte attacks ‘politicking, posturing’ De Lima

http://www.rappler.com/nation/143353-duterte-hits-leila-de-lima

 

 

Duterte did not name De Lima but dropped heavy – and obvious – hints that he was referring to her when he chastised a senator for “complaining” about the ongoing campaign against illegal drugs. De Lima, a former justice secretary, is set to head a legislative probe into instances of alleged summary killings during anti-illegal drugs operations by police.

De Lima chairs the Senate’s committee on justice.

The President turned personal against the senator, accusing her of having a “driver and lover” who accepted money from illegal drugs during the 2016 campaign.

Here is an immoral woman….Here is a woman who funded the house of her lover. The money came readily for her,” said Duterte.

He later clarified that he was not saying that the driver gave the senator drug money but added, “but by the looks of it, she had it.”

Duterte’s last lines during this off-the-cuff part of his speech had the most obvious references to De Lima. “I can show you. I have the CD when she first investigated me for human rights violations,” said Duterte.

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