daphne loves derby Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 most of those are from the previous administration.... kung meron man naitulong ang duterte admin, ay mere positive outlook.... which is normal wthen there is a NEW administration (as pointed out there). I know it is a meme... pero hindi ba totoo? labo ni digong. so kailangan mo talagang i dis regard yung statement na "improved peace and order" ma satisfy lang ang ego mo??.typical classic jopoc.. sya lang ang laging tama.. tsk tsk tsk... Quote Link to comment
filibustero Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) You are missing the point. Again, there is no proof that there is tacit approval for Duterte. It is easy to blame him but hard to prove. Aquino was the CIC of the PNP and the AFP. He could have easily ordered both institutions to go after drug lords and the like. Why did it proliferate exponentially? Because he either allowed it or he ignored it. My point is Duterte has no control over the EJK while Aquino has control over the PNP and AFP, being the CIC and he could have ordered these institutions to go hard at drug personalities. Can we agree that drug-related killings also proliferated exponentially the last few months since Digong won the presidency? Following the argument that exponential proliferation is the result of the President either allowing or ignoring something, then could the same not also be said of Digong? Digong is now the CIC of the PNP and the AFP, so he is now in control of those institutions and could also easily order both institutions to go after the perpetrators of EJK, but there is no success on that matter thus far. What's sauce for the goose should also be sauce for the gander. It's hard to absolve Digong of the recent spate of killings because he has been associated with that kind of street justice ever since he was mayor of Davao. The Davao Death Squad is known to all and in his 20 years as mayor, the DDS was ever present. In those 20 years, can we not say that he either allowed it or ignored it as well? So it's kind of hard to dissociate that policy from Digong, especially when that is what he anchored his electoral campaign on. So for me, the bottom line is EJK is wrong - doesn't matter who does it and to whom it is done. But the present strategy of the new leadership in the drug war is not to suppress this EJK - success is measured by how many drug pushers and killers are eliminated anyway. And that that's just the present reality now. Personally I don't mind drug pushers and killers dropping dead day by day, but what concerns me is the kind of culture that it creates. Especially the culture of impunity. It just trades one evil for another. Other people may not wish to worry about it, but I do. Edited September 13, 2016 by filibustero Quote Link to comment
jopoc Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 (edited) so kailangan mo talagang i dis regard yung statement na "improved peace and order" ma satisfy lang ang ego mo??.typical classic jopoc.. sya lang ang laging tama.. tsk tsk tsk... wala naman akong sinabi na i-disregard.... meron ba? yup, lagi akong tama. hindi ako makikipagtalo kung sa tingin ko mali ako. hindi tulad mo, mali na nga, hihirit pa. Edited September 13, 2016 by jopoc Quote Link to comment
daphne loves derby Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 (edited) wala naman akong sinabi na i-disregard.... meron ba? yup, lagi akong tama. hindi ako makikipagtalo kung sa tingin ko mali ako. hindi tulad mo, mali na nga, hihirit pa. care to explain this kung pano ka tumama dito? parang "Philippines leaving the UN" post lang? sino ba ang nakiki "burned" ng mali naman at sablay dahit wala sa topic yung hirit? most of those are from the previous administration.... kung meron man naitulong ang duterte admin, ay mere positive outlook.... which is normal wthen there is a NEW administration (as pointed out there). so then explain this?hindi mo nga dinis regard eh hindi mo din naman in-acknowledged. Para sayo eh "NORMAL" lang at walang credit na dapat ibigay, a typical classic negatibong jopoc pag positive news - seen zonepag negative news - AKTIBO Edited September 14, 2016 by daphne loves derby Quote Link to comment
filibustero Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 Well in that case, I think we can also agree that nothing has been proven against anyone. Everybody is absolved. Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander. Quote Link to comment
jopoc Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 care to explain this kung pano ka tumama dito? parang "Philippines leaving the UN" post lang? sino ba ang nakiki "burned" ng mali naman at sablay dahit wala sa topic yung hirit? so then explain this?hindi mo nga dinis regard eh hindi mo din naman in-acknowledged. Para sayo eh "NORMAL" lang at walang credit na dapat ibigay, a typical classic negatibong jopoc pag positive news - seen zonepag negative news - AKTIBO so that's it. sa iyo rin manggagaling na hindi ko dinisregard next time, wag mag aakusa ng hindi totoo. thanks...magagalit na si madame FDL sa atin. 'nuff said. Quote Link to comment
daphne loves derby Posted September 14, 2016 Share Posted September 14, 2016 so that's it. sa iyo rin manggagaling na hindi ko dinisregard next time, wag mag aakusa ng hindi totoo. thanks...magagalit na si madame FDL sa atin. 'nuff said. OK peace man.. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 no different from what duterte did to de5 right? cases should have been filed by now. pare-pareho lang naman silang lahat ... Ah ganun pala yun, pag reklamo sa PNP at sa administrasyon tungkol sa EJK tama na aksayahin ang oras ng senado sa mga hearing hearing na yan imbes na kasuhan na mismo yung pulis na inierereklamo. Pero pag yun si De Lima mo ang kelangan paharapin sa ethics complaint at magkaroon din ng inquiry sa kanya para magbuild ng tamang kaso, hindi pwede? Eh di wow! Double standard pala dapat. Kanta na lang tayo Handog ng piiiiilippppiiiiinooooo sa mundooooooooooo....... Quote Link to comment
Sam1226 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Ah ganun pala yun, pag reklamo sa PNP at sa administrasyon tungkol sa EJK tama na aksayahin ang oras ng senado sa mga hearing hearing na yan imbes na kasuhan na mismo yung pulis na inierereklamo. Pero pag yun si De Lima mo ang kelangan paharapin sa ethics complaint at magkaroon din ng inquiry sa kanya para magbuild ng tamang kaso, hindi pwede? Eh di wow! Double standard pala dapat. Kanta na lang tayo Handog ng piiiiilippppiiiiinooooo sa mundooooooooooo....... hindi naman na kelangan ang ethics committee dyan eh, pwede ng idirecho sa korte yan. naglabas na nung nakaraan ng drug matrix si PDut, kung nakapaglabas ka ng ganung ka detalyadong matrix, naturally me ebidensya ka na. eh bakit hanggang ngaun wala pa ring naisasampang kaso? panay pa presscon lang ang DOJ Edited September 16, 2016 by Sam1226 Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Ah ganun pala yun, pag reklamo sa PNP at sa administrasyon tungkol sa EJK tama na aksayahin ang oras ng senado sa mga hearing hearing na yan imbes na kasuhan na mismo yung pulis na inierereklamo. Pero pag yun si De Lima mo ang kelangan paharapin sa ethics complaint at magkaroon din ng inquiry sa kanya para magbuild ng tamang kaso, hindi pwede? Eh di wow! Double standard pala dapat. Kanta na lang tayo Handog ng piiiiilippppiiiiinooooo sa mundooooooooooo....... Do not spin/ twist my statement ...why do you always have this habit ? malinaw pa sa sikat ng araw na my comment was all about throwing accusations (baseless as they may be ) to each other and yet hindi naman kayang kasuhan nila ang isa't-isa. Thus let me reiterate, on that aspect they are both the same. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 hindi naman na kelangan ang ethics committee dyan eh, pwede ng idirecho sa korte yan. naglabas na nung nakaraan ng drug matrix si PDut, kung nakapaglabas ka ng ganung ka detalyadong matrix, naturally me ebidensya ka na. eh bakit hanggang ngaun wala pa ring naisasampang kaso? panay pa presscon lang ang DOJ Lol So ganun nga, Double YELLOW Standard dapat. pag si De Lima magaaksaya ng oras sa senado rah rah rah dapat ang tao. Pero pag sya naman iimbestigahan me angal kayo? (Sing) "Katotohanaaaaaaan kalayaan katarungaaaaaaan Ay kayang makamit ng walang dahaaaaaaas!" Lol. Kelangan po sya humarap. Unang una me parliamentary immunity sya di ba? So hindi yan ganyan kasimple. Pangalawa hindi lang naman ito tungkol sa kanya. Kelangan din malaman ng mabuti kung ano ba naging loophole ng batas bakit nakalusot mga kalokohan dyan sa bilibid nung time nya. Kasi kung kulang ang batas, di repasuhin. Huwag syang duwag. Lahat nga ng pinatawag nya hinarap sya ng maayos tapos sya pala itong duwag? Quote Link to comment
Sam1226 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Lol So ganun nga, Double YELLOW Standard dapat. pag si De Lima magaaksaya ng oras sa senado rah rah rah dapat ang tao. Pero pag sya naman iimbestigahan me angal kayo? (Sing) "Katotohanaaaaaaan kalayaan katarungaaaaaaan Ay kayang makamit ng walang dahaaaaaaas!" Lol. Kelangan po sya humarap. Unang una me parliamentary immunity sya di ba? So hindi yan ganyan kasimple. Pangalawa hindi lang naman ito tungkol sa kanya. Kelangan din malaman ng mabuti kung ano ba naging loophole ng batas bakit nakalusot mga kalokohan dyan sa bilibid nung time nya. Kasi kung kulang ang batas, di repasuhin. Huwag syang duwag. Lahat nga ng pinatawag nya hinarap sya ng maayos tapos sya pala itong duwag? asan ang angal sa statement? what i am saying, me drug matrix na, matibay ang ebidensya, bakit hanggang ngaun walang kaso sa korte. and regarding sa kalokohan sa bilibid, matagal ng panahon ng namamayagpag yung mga drug lords dyan, wala pa sina de lima. inabutan na yan ni binoy nung nakulong sya sa bilibid. pinalalabas lang sa panahon nina delima nangyari ang mga yan when in fact nagkataon during their stint nabuking yang kalokohan ng mga drug lord sa bilibid Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 asan ang angal sa statement? what i am saying, me drug matrix na, matibay ang ebidensya, bakit hanggang ngaun walang kaso sa korte. and regarding sa kalokohan sa bilibid, matagal ng panahon ng namamayagpag yung mga drug lords dyan, wala pa sina de lima. inabutan na yan ni binoy nung nakulong sya sa bilibid. pinalalabas lang sa panahon nina delima nangyari ang mga yan when in fact nagkataon during their stint nabuking yang kalokohan ng mga drug lord sa bilibid Ah ganun ba dati pang nandyan yan panahon ni De Lima? Hmmmm 2010-2015 kang DOJ. Halos 2015 na nung me ginawang aksyon. So Anu yun? 5 taon ka sa pwesto mo hindi mo nasilip man lang yan? Nagiging recording artist na inamte dyan, nagpapatayo na shopping mall, condo units etc. Hindi mo pa nasilip? Dami ng kumakalat na youtube video ng mga yan, hindi mo pa alam? Me picture kayo ni Sebastian, wala kang natunugan? Either pabaya ka, o me patong sila sayo! Eitherway di sya abswelto sa responsibilidad kahit pa sinabi nyang niraid nya yan. Isa pa tagal ng sinasabihan yan. Kaya nga tanongin mo tita Leila mo! 2013 pa pala andun sa kanila testigo, bakit hindi nyo nagawang kasuhan noon si Digong nung mayor pa tagal na syang hinahamon. Tapos ngayon sya iimbestigahan, iiyak iyak sya. Kanta pa tayo (Sing) Handooooooog ng Piiiiiiilipiiiiino sa Mundooooooohooooohooooooo Quote Link to comment
daphne loves derby Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 it took erap 3 years to bring him down so we should know that 1 attack is not enough. there will be a series of those. plus, the international media is backing up the yellow forces,.... as for de lima, karma lang yan...she is getting what she deserves. i want to hear your opinion as a lawyer pagdating ke matobato. Kumbaga, in the eyes of an expert on the matter; 1. will his statements merits/deserves a judicial endorsement?2. how strong/weak are his testimonies, judicial wise?3. how to properly use these accusations to file a counter case to the yellow conspirators?4. if you were to be his lawyer, malakas ba talaga kaso o hindi credible yung witness talaga? andami kasing nagpapaka abogado dito sa thread eh, di dito tayo sa totoo. Quote Link to comment
jopoc Posted September 19, 2016 Share Posted September 19, 2016 i want to hear your opinion as a lawyer pagdating ke matobato. Kumbaga, in the eyes of an expert on the matter; 1. will his statements merits/deserves a judicial endorsement?2. how strong/weak are his testimonies, judicial wise?3. how to properly use these accusations to file a counter case to the yellow conspirators?4. if you were to be his lawyer, malakas ba talaga kaso o hindi credible yung witness talaga? andami kasing nagpapaka abogado dito sa thread eh, di dito tayo sa totoo. 1. anong judicial endorsement? 2. strong yan to a certain extent kasi wala naman maipakitang motive against him to speak against digong. 3. prove the existence of the yellow conspirators first. wag puro meme ang basehan. 4. credible sya kasi wala ngang established motive for him to say something against du30 Quote Link to comment
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