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I don't see anything wrong with his post. He was just questioning why the other politicians who were involved in the PDAF scam were not charged. But I find this post of yours warped because you obviously didn't understand his post. Nowhere in his post did he say or imply that the three who were charged should be released. Another laugher of a post. Haha!

kaya nga kayo #1 and #2 dun sa 16m na ugok

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and you are proud to support a president that is willing to turn a blind eye on other personalities involved just because they have turn into avid supporters of the president and the president needs this coalition to ensure he has control of both houses?

 

 

mahirap talaga masagot kapag nagkakaroon ng double standards...dinedepensahan mo ang pagpalaya kay Bong Revilla by arguing that bakit sila lang ang kinasuhan.

 

basta pinapaboran kahit mali o sablay ok lang ...pero kapag ibinalik sa inyo ang sarili ninyong argumento ayun magiisip na ng palusot tulad ng “tigok na at di na umabot sa piskal”. hay naku wag mong sabihin walang natitirang buhay na pinagiinitan ninyong dilawan na involve sa katiwalian. huwag mo rin sabihin na si de lima lang ang involve sa droga o ibang katiwalian at lahat ay patay na kaya siya lang ang ipinakulong.

 

at sa tanong mo kung bakit isa ka dun sa 16m++, tulad ng nauna kong sinabi na di mo naintindihan ata kasama rin dito yun mga di naman si digong ang ibinoto pero ngayon panay na rin ang pagsamba sa kanya. ayun panay na ang pagdepensa sa kanya.

 

salamat sa pagpapaalala na baka masuspend ako. pero ayan ang hirap eh...nakikisawsaw ka tapos kapag kinontra ang punto ninyo ang dali ninyo magbansag na kesyo dilawan, yellowtards etc. kapag kayo naman ang binansagan dahil sa pagiging blind followers ninyo sa inyong lodi ayun umiiral ang inyong pusong mamon at di nakakapagtataka na magsusumbong sa admin para masuspindi ang kadebate. sa totoo lang kung marunong kayong bumira matuto rin kayong tumanggap at wag maging cry babies.

 

16M tapos isasama mo yung hindi bomoto.. samantalang nagcount kapa pabalik lol... kakatawa ka talga!

 

isumbong ang kadebate hahaha no need kc alam kong naka monitor sila... paalala nga di ba!

 

kaya to summarize your punto... nganga!

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16M tapos isasama mo yung hindi bomoto.. samantalang nagcount kapa pabalik lol... kakatawa ka talga!

 

isumbong ang kadebate hahaha no need kc alam kong naka monitor sila... paalala nga di ba!

 

kaya to summarize your punto... nganga!

16m++ it was explained and you can’t still understand? hopeless...

 

and you are wondering why ... hahaha

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i cant believe what im reading..

 

keep on insisting!

 

ito post mo 15,998,000 na lang and counting ....

 

kakadismaya ka talaga! ++ kp nalalaman hahaha

Lol...

 

That's because ur brain is soooo fixated with the absolute number 16m that you took things quite literally despite the earlier qualitative explanation to the number

 

Either that or nagpapalusot ka pa. Strictly speaking 16m exactly lang ba ang bumoto kay duterte kaya basta nakita mo yun numerong 16m++ then yun mga bumoto lang ang pinaguusapan? The fact is its 16,601,997 then i should have posted 16,601,995 if that's the case.

 

Anyway whatever that number is i think you get the messsage loud and clear...as to who i consider as included in that list

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Lol...

 

That's because ur brain is soooo fixated with the absolute number 16m that you took things quite literally despite the earlier qualitative explanation to the number

 

Either that or nagpapalusot ka pa. Strictly speaking 16m exactly lang ba ang bumoto kay duterte kaya basta nakita mo yun numerong 16m++ then yun mga bumoto lang ang pinaguusapan? The fact is its 16,601,997 then i should have posted 16,601,995 if that's the case.

 

Anyway whatever that number is i think you get the messsage loud and clear...as to who i consider as included in that list

 

fixated na ngayon whahaha..

 

sino kaya nagpapalusot ngayon... hindi nga binoto ++ pero ang counting pababa bagong mathematics yan hahaha

 

whatever the number the message is clear... kaw yung word na cnabi mo hahaha

 

 

back to the topic...

 

1year extension ang Martial Law sa Mindanao

 

magagalit nnman ang mga taga metro manila hahaha

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Apparantly the idiots keep speculating and making assumptions, there are different intels from the AFP, PNP, DILG etc. Local officials that goes into a single Authority which is in this case the President. Martial Law is a legal remedy provided by the constitution so the state can defend itself.

There are intels that are known to the PNP but are not known to the AFP, same as in the case of the DILG and Local Execs. But all those sources goes into a single chokepoint which is the president.

There are yellow trolls here who dont know what they are talking about, yet, keep on commenting just for the sake of commenting. Basta maka hirit lang. :lol: Edited by will robie
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Eto tayo eh, kapag hindi na makasagot ng matino bumaba tayo sa level ng "NAME CALLING" at branding. Kung walang masagot na matino, TUMAHIMIK na lang.

 

 

Apparantly the idiots keep speculating and making assumptions, there are different intels from the AFP, PNP, DILG etc. Local officials that goes into a single Authority which is in this case the President. Martial Law is a legal remedy provided by the constitution so the state can defend itself.

There are intels that are known to the PNP but are not known to the AFP, same as in the case of the DILG and Local Execs. But all those sources goes into a single chokepoint which is the president.

 

If the end line of the intel trail is the president, kindly explain to me kung bakit nakalusot ang bombing sa south? With all the intelligence coming to him, wala bang nagsabi sa kanya about this kind of attack? Siguro naman brad sobra-sobra na ang Martial Law sa Mindanao? Nasa constitution natin di ba na 60 days lang ang implementation ng Martial Law? Sayang lang ang declaration ng ML kung hindi naman ginagawa ng mga armed personnel ang kanilang trabaho para sugpuin ang mga terrorista at rebelde. Naka isang taon na pero wala pa ding resulta na pwede nilang ipagmayabang sa taga Luzon kung gaano ka-epektibo ang ML.

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Eto tayo eh, kapag hindi na makasagot ng matino bumaba tayo sa level ng "NAME CALLING" at branding. Kung walang masagot na matino, TUMAHIMIK na lang.

 

 

 

If the end line of the intel trail is the president, kindly explain to me kung bakit nakalusot ang bombing sa south? With all the intelligence coming to him, wala bang nagsabi sa kanya about this kind of attack? Siguro naman brad sobra-sobra na ang Martial Law sa Mindanao? Nasa constitution natin di ba na 60 days lang ang implementation ng Martial Law? Sayang lang ang declaration ng ML kung hindi naman ginagawa ng mga armed personnel ang kanilang trabaho para sugpuin ang mga terrorista at rebelde. Naka isang taon na pero wala pa ding resulta na pwede nilang ipagmayabang sa taga Luzon kung gaano ka-epektibo ang ML.

 

Martial Law has been effective in keeping the terrorists on the run and force them to keep a low profile.

The terrorists were successful once or twice. Imagine how much worse it could be without Martial Law.

How would you know if the Military has not been doing their job? You wouldn't know to what extent they have been going through to neutralize the enemy. But they wouldn't tell you even if you ask unless you have the right security clearance level, like the president. Suffice it to say that things are being done to keep the citizens safe.

 

Yes Martial Law is limited to 60 days unless Congress allows its extension.

 

Congress did allow the extension, so what are you complaining about?.

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Martial Law has been effective in keeping the terrorists on the run and force them to keep a low profile.

The terrorists were successful once or twice. Imagine how much worse it could be without Martial Law.

How would you know if the Military has not been doing their job? You wouldn't know to what extent they have been going through to neutralize the enemy. But they wouldn't tell you even if you ask unless you have the right security clearance level, like the president. Suffice it to say that things are being done to keep the citizens safe.

 

Yes Martial Law is limited to 60 days unless Congress allows its extension.

 

Congress did allow the extension, so what are you complaining about?.

 

Martial Law has been effective in keeping the terrorists on the run and force them to keep a low profile. - By keeping the armed forces on red alert and constant vigilance and checkpoints in the problem areas you can keep them in control. Nagagawa nila dati kahit wala pa ML, Nababawasan naman nila ang sinasabing terrorist acts. Your statement implies na kapag walang martial law eh lalala pa ang situation sa Mindanao, with your statement, you are implying na NEED pa talaga ng PRESIDENTE ng i-impose ang ML para lang makapag-trabaho ng MAAYOS ang MILITARY. Ganoon ba ka-INCOMPETENT ang military sa paningin mo kaya UMAASA ka sa ML ni LODI?

 

Noong panahon ni Erap, KONTING Konti na lang MAPUPULBOS na nila ang grupo ng MILF ni HASHIM SALAMAT. Noong panahon ni PANDAK napigilan nila ang LAMITAN siege. Etong panahon ni PANOT, nalampasan nila ang Zamboanga siege, alam mo ba ang common sa kanila? WALANG MARTIAL LAW. Etong panahon ng LODI mo, Inabutan siya ng Marawi siege, impose agad ng ML? Para saan? Para mapigilan sila? Ang tanong napigilan ba? Kung sasabihin mo na napigilan, how come may terror act na nangyari? O baka naman ihihirit mo din gaya ng ilang tao na "ISOLATED CASE" lang ang nangyaring pambobomba. Your excuse for the imposing of ML does not add up with the promise made by your LODI when he requested to impose the ML on Mindanao.

 

Ulitin natin ang sinabi niya prior sa implementation ng ML sa mindanao. Mag reflect ka kung natupad ang sinabi niyang ito.

 

'If I declare martial law in Mindanao, I will solve all that ails the island,' -Duterte

 

 

Ibalik ko sa iyo ang tanong mo. Paano mo naman nasaabi na ginagawa talaga ng Armed forces ang trabaho nila. Are you part of the armed forces too? Paano mo masasabi na may ginagawa sila kung wala naman silang ginagawang report or update? Hindi sila nagtatrabaho para lang sa presidente ng PILIPINAS. at ang presidente ng PILIPINAS ay hindi nagtatrabaho para sa IILANG tao lang. Both of them are expected to do their job and also report the status of their work.

 

How would an employer know their employees do their job kung hindi naman sila nakaka receive ng report or update man lang sa kanilang mga pinag-gagawa? i-cocontest mo ba sa akin na sa presidente nila nire-report ng resulta ng kanilang intel gathering? If that is so, the president has the power to impose an order to prevent or act on such intel report. Na sa nakita natin sa bombing sa south eh THEY FAILED TO ACT to prevent or counter the intel report regarding sa gagawing terror act ng kalaban.

 

 

Yes Martial Law is limited to 60 days unless Congress allows its extension.

 

Congress did allow the extension, so what are you complaining about?.

 

There is nothing to complain about. Kasi kung marunong ka nang umunawa sa present admin na kinahuhumalingan mo. Bawat pangako na pinagsasabi ng LODI mo. HINDI NAMAN NATUTUPAD.

 

Jetski sa scarborough shoal - Hindi natupad

Magpunta sa Benham rise - Hindi natupad

Tatapusin ang drug problem in 6 months - Hindi natupad

If I declare martial law in Mindanao, I will solve all that ails the island - Hindi natupad.

 

365 days / 60 days = 6 chances to stop the armed problems in Mindanao na hanggang sa ngayon eh hindi pa rin niya mapigilan. Tanggap naman namin. HIndi talaga matutupad ang sinasabi niya. Come CLEAN lang.

 

What your LODI does is just MACHISMO, over commitment UNDER DELIVER.

 

Your lodi is just the SAME OLD TRAPO. LIKE the ADMINS BEFORE HIM.

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^^^ Sa hinaba-haba ng isinagot mo, you haven't replied what it is you're complaining about extension of Martial Law in Mindanao.

 

Pasensya na camiar ha. Sa hinaba-haba ng reply ko eh HINDI mo nabasa ang part na ito.....

 

 

There is nothing to complain about. Kasi kung marunong ka nang umunawa sa present admin na kinahuhumalingan mo. Bawat pangako na pinagsasabi ng LODI mo. HINDI NAMAN NATUTUPAD.

 

Yan, nilakihan ko na at naka bold pa para mabasa mo nang maayos.

 

2019 na Camiar, huwag mo naman gamitin ang mga style mo na idi-divert ang takbo ng discussion sa punto na kaya mong makalusot. Dun tayo sa sinagot ko na statement ng isa. HINDI ang statement mo.

 

Ang pinag-uusapan eh ang effectiveness ng Martial Law. HINDI ANG EXTENSION NITO. Sisingit ka na nga lang hindi mo pa inintindi ang pinag-uusapan.

 

 

Martial Law has been effective in keeping the terrorists on the run and force them to keep a low profile. - Camiar

 

Eto ang unang sinabi mo. Eto naman ang sinagot ko sa statement mo na yan.

 

 

By keeping the armed forces on red alert and constant vigilance and checkpoints in the problem areas you can keep them in control. Nagagawa nila dati kahit wala pa ML, Nababawasan naman nila ang sinasabing terrorist acts. Your statement implies na kapag walang martial law eh lalala pa ang situation sa Mindanao, with your statement, you are implying na NEED pa talaga ng PRESIDENTE ng i-impose ang ML para lang makapag-trabaho ng MAAYOS ang MILITARY. Ganoon ba ka-INCOMPETENT ang military sa paningin mo kaya UMAASA ka sa ML ni LODI?

 

Since hindi ka naman kumontra sa sinabi ko na yan. We can deduce na IKAW DIN eh napa-isip na INCOMPETENT ang Armed forces natin dahil UMASA pa sila sa ML ng IDOL mo para lang MAKAPAG-TRABAHO sila ng MAAYOS.

 

 

 

Ang saya no Camiar? Kapag hindi na masagot eh hihirit na lang ng ganito

 

 

^^^ Sa hinaba-haba ng isinagot mo, you haven't replied what it is you're complaining about extension of Martial Law in Mindanao.

 

Pero hindi binasa muna ng maayos ang statement ko bago humirit.

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^^^ so, you have nothing to complain about regarding the extension of Martial Law.

 

your excuse is that Martial Law is not effective. But you do not know that.

 

The people who do have the knowledge about it say it is effective.

 

All you have done so far is rant on Duterte's personality. A non-issue.

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^^^ so, you have nothing to complain about regarding the extension of Martial Law.

 

your excuse is that Martial Law is not effective. But you do not know that.

 

The people who do have the knowledge about it say it is effective.

 

All you have done so far is rant on Duterte's personality. A non-issue.

 

How do you know that it is effective or not? Who says that it is effective? Ano ang kanilang basis para sabihin ito? Ang problema kasi Camiar, ang pagkahumaling mo sa administrasyong ito eh umaabot nasa panatisismo. Be objective sa pagtingin ng mga bagay. Nagawa ng 3 admins na supilin ang terorismo sa Mindanao. NG WALANG MARTIAL LAW. Pero ang present admin NEED PA MAG IMPLEMENT NG MARTIAL LAW para supilin ang TERORISMO sa Mindanao. Ang expectation sa kanyang ginawa eh mas magiging epektibo ang kanyang atake sa problema ng kaguluhan sa SOUTH. PERO. PERO HINDI PA din niya magawa. Di ba nga sinabi ko wala pa silang maipagmalaki sa taga LUZON at VISAYAS kung gaano ka epektibo ang ML nila? Alam mo kung bakit? KASI kung resulta lang din naman ng ginawa niya eh katulad lang din ng ginawa ng iba. Hindi mo masasabi na EPEKTIBO ito.

 

Madali lang sabihin na gumana ang ginawa nila. Pero mas KAPANI-PANIWALA ang mga SINASABI nila kung ito eh MAY KAAKIBAT NA SOLID NA RESULTA. Hindi RESULTA NA GALING LANG SA BIBIG, SOLID NA RESULTA

 

 

Hirap makawala sa kumunoy ng palusot ano? Bawat sambit mo eh may kaakibat na punto. Nga pala, tama ako na sabihing sa iyong pananaw eh "INCOMPETENT" ang Military? Para umasa sa ML ng IDOL mo para makapg trabaho pero wala namang nabago.

 

SAME SAME BUT DIFFERENT, BUT STILL THE SAME.

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Dylan mukhang masyado kang naka pokus sa mga matatamis na pananalita ni Digong hahaha

 

isipin mo na lng kung wlang ML sa mindanao... mas mababalitaan mo ang madaming pagsabog sa Mindanao..

 

kung di ka man lng naniniwala sa ginagawang trabaho ng Militar sa Mindanao during ML aba dun ka tumira magobserve ka hindi puro ka espekulasyon wala silang ginagawa at hindi effective ang ML.

 

hindi porket may ML na sa mindanao walang chances of terrorist attack dyosku anong klaseng pagiisip meron kyo ni TK.

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Ok guys kayong tatlo

 

PROVE IT. Hindi salita lang.. PROVE IT. DI ba sabi ko SOLID na RESULT. Kasi ang naniniwala sa sabi-sabi eh walang bait sa sarili.

 

 

Dylan mukhang masyado kang naka pokus sa mga matatamis na pananalita ni Digong hahaha

 

isipin mo na lng kung wlang ML sa mindanao... mas mababalitaan mo ang madaming pagsabog sa Mindanao..

 

kung di ka man lng naniniwala sa ginagawang trabaho ng Militar sa Mindanao during ML aba dun ka tumira magobserve ka hindi puro ka espekulasyon wala silang ginagawa at hindi effective ang ML.

 

hindi porket may ML na sa mindanao walang chances of terrorist attack dyosku anong klaseng pagiisip meron kyo ni TK.

 

Bago ka maniwala na may ginagawa sila. Try mo kaya tumira dun para makita mo FIRST HAND kung may GINAGAWA NGA TALAGA SILA.

Ikaw nga halos mahulog na ang brief mo sa mga sinasambit ni digong. Kahit ang iba dito eh hindi naman natutupad

 

If most of people in Mindanao prefers that ML be extended, why would people in NCR can say its not good for them? They are the ones experiencing the improvements in their community and it shows from the votes of representatives in Mindanao that they prefer to extend it.

 

Nasaan ang proof mo dyan sa statement na yan? Enlighten me.

 

 

Martial Law brought the style of government that MILF, MNLF, Abu Sayaf, BIFF, and all the spoiled terrorist brats and warring clans in Mindanao can understand and respect - a benevolent iron hand, an authoritarian government.

 

Itong mga ito, they project their power from the muzzle of their guns. Making war and terrorism are the only way of life they know. They neither follow nor respect civilian authority.

 

Martial Law brought peace and order in Mindanao following Marawi war. We should use this opportunity to implement economic progress. Show these armed groups that there's a peaceful alternative way of making a living.

 

Please, bago ka magsalita ng ganyan. Tell me, na address na ba ang "LOOSE FIREARMS" at private armed groups na hawak ng mga politicians sa Mindanao?

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Eto tayo eh, kapag hindi na makasagot ng matino bumaba tayo sa level ng "NAME CALLING" at branding. Kung walang masagot na matino, TUMAHIMIK na lang.

 

 

 

 

If the end line of the intel trail is the president, kindly explain to me kung bakit nakalusot ang bombing sa south? With all the intelligence coming to him, wala bang nagsabi sa kanya about this kind of attack? Siguro naman brad sobra-sobra na ang Martial Law sa Mindanao? Nasa constitution natin di ba na 60 days lang ang implementation ng Martial Law? Sayang lang ang declaration ng ML kung hindi naman ginagawa ng mga armed personnel ang kanilang trabaho para sugpuin ang mga terrorista at rebelde. Naka isang taon na pero wala pa ding resulta na pwede nilang ipagmayabang sa taga Luzon kung gaano ka-epektibo ang ML.

 

Apparently you don't get it. Ang layo ng context ng tanong mo, im sorry to say but your questions lean towards ignorance.

 

-How/Why did the president need ML?

 

-Baket nalusotan?...hindi ginagawa ng AFP ang kanilang Trabaho...(may idea kana gaano kalayo ang pinagsasabi mo?)

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Ok guys kayong tatlo

 

PROVE IT. Hindi salita lang.. PROVE IT. DI ba sabi ko SOLID na RESULT. Kasi ang naniniwala sa sabi-sabi eh walang bait sa sarili.

 

Nasaan ang proof mo dyan sa statement na yan? Enlighten me.

 

 

 

 

Hindi mo ba alam mga boto ng mga representatives from Mindanao on the extension of ML?

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Please, bago ka magsalita ng ganyan. Tell me, na address na ba ang "LOOSE FIREARMS" at private armed groups na hawak ng mga politicians sa Mindanao?

 

Yes. Loose firearms are now limited to rebel groups (MNLF, MILF, etc...) and lawless terrorist groups. The government are not running after the firearms of the groups who are still negotiating with the government for a peace agreement. The military are running after the terrorist armed groups. The firearms of private securities of politicians and private individuals are licensed, therefore, not considered as loose firearms.

 

You have proof otherwise that the issue is not addressed?

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Yes. Loose firearms are now limited to rebel groups (MNLF, MILF, etc...) and lawless terrorist groups. The government are not running after the firearms of the groups who are still negotiating with the government for a peace agreement. The military are running after the terrorist armed groups. The firearms of private securities of politicians and private individuals are licensed, therefore, not considered as loose firearms.

 

You have proof otherwise that the issue is not addressed?

 

Nasan ang pruweba mo na limitado lang sa rebel groups ang loose firearms?

 

Apparently you don't get it. Ang layo ng context ng tanong mo, im sorry to say but your questions lean towards ignorance.

 

-How/Why did the president need ML?

 

-Baket nalusotan?...hindi ginagawa ng AFP ang kanilang Trabaho...(may idea kana gaano kalayo ang pinagsasabi mo?)

 

sorry pero kung ako ay ignorante sa pangyayari, ano naman masasabi mo sa sarili mo na hindi rin mabigyan ng sustansiya ang statement mo? So kapag hindi na masagot eh ibabato na malayo sa context?

 

Simple lang naman eh. Kung ang info ay funneled sa iisang tao. Hindi ba't malalaman at malalaman din nila ang mga galawang yan? Assuming na alam na nila ang ganyang intel report, how come hindi sila gumawa ng paraan para ma-counter ito? Parang command responsibility lang bolj. Sabihin na natin na nagbigay ang pres ng order, how come hindi nagawa ng armed forces ang order ng COS?

 

 

 

Hindi mo ba alam mga boto ng mga representatives from Mindanao on the extension of ML?

 

Hindi mo rin ba alam na ang mga representatives na nasa congress eh sumusunod lang sa kumpas ng nasa executive? panahon pa ni erap, pandak, at panot eh bumabalimbing na sila.

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