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yan tayo haroots2 eh. Kapag si rooster ang pinagtutulungan ninyo hindi siya pumipiyok na may sumasawsaw. Kapag ikaw naman ang pinagtutulungan pipiyok ka na sumasawsaw. Ano nga ulit? Wala kang sinabi na 100% mawawala ang endo. Oo wala ka sinabi. Pero ang idol mo meron. Todo depensa ka pa. Eh ung idol mong trapo ang nadale ng sarili niyang pananalita.

 

Ang problema sa iyo haroots2, kapag naiipit ka na sa mga sinasabi mo eh umiiyak ka na. Parang katulad lang ng iba dito. Kapag naiipit na sa mga info na hinihingi ng kabilang partido eh nagbubulag bulagan at binabaligtad pa ang sitwasyon. Ang tanga di ba?

 

Did the pres declared that he will end the endo? YES DI BA?

Did the president successfully end the endo? NO

 

tapos ang usapan. Wag mo na depensahan ang ginawa nila. Marunong naman kami umunawa. Hindi kami gaya ng iba dito na paingles ingles pa eh tanga naman.

 

Kagaya mo kasi si Rooster naghahanap ng perpekto na its 100% or nothing para lang makapag post ng reklamo dito. Kaya ang sabi ko tanungin nila yung ilang libong naregular na dahil sa effort ng DOLE with the directicve of the president. May paki kaya sila kung hindi man ito ma perpekto? SIno kaya iboboto nila sa susunod na eleksyon mga idol mong dilawan? May perpekto bang nagawang proyekto si Abnoy ,agbigay ka nga kahit isa?

Hindi ko problema na sumawsaw ka pero magbasa basa ka rin ng previous post namin. Inulit mo rin kasi yung mga seasonal o project base sa akin eh. E di ikaw lang ang gumaya sa akin.

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Kagaya mo kasi si Rooster naghahanap ng perpekto na its 100% or nothing para lang makapag post ng reklamo dito. Kaya ang sabi ko tanungin nila yung ilang libong naregular na dahil sa effort ng DOLE with the directicve of the president. May paki kaya sila kung hindi man ito ma perpekto? SIno kaya iboboto nila sa susunod na eleksyon mga idol mong dilawan? May perpekto bang nagawang proyekto si Abnoy ,agbigay ka nga kahit isa?

Hindi ko problema na sumawsaw ka pero magbasa basa ka rin ng previous post namin. Inulit mo rin kasi yung mga seasonal o project base sa akin eh. E di ikaw lang ang gumaya sa akin.

naghahanap ng perpekto? tingnan mo muna sarili mo ha yun mga reklamo mo dati saka ka magsalita.

 

ang problema sa iyo panay ang putak mo sa bawa’t issue dati .... fine

 

but now that your idol naman ang nasa posisyon at kayo ang binabatikos you will give that dumb reason na naghahanap ng perpekto? sa totoo lang ang expectation lang naman is kung ano pinagsasabi niya ... no more no less.

 

again ano ba pinangako niya regarding endo? totally stop o partially stop? paki sagot!

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naghahanap ng perpekto? tingnan mo muna sarili mo ha yun mga reklamo mo dati saka ka magsalita.

 

ang problema sa iyo panay ang putak mo sa bawa’t issue dati .... fine

 

but now that your idol naman ang nasa posisyon at kayo ang binabatikos you will give that dumb reason na naghahanap ng perpekto? sa totoo lang ang expectation lang naman is kung ano pinagsasabi niya ... no more no less.

 

again ano ba pinangako niya regarding endo? totally stop o partially stop? paki sagot!

 

Ano ba yung nirereklamo ko dati? Ano naaalala mo, may hinahanap ba akong perpekto kay Abnoy? Iba yung walang ginagawa sa may ginagawa at may nagyayaring resulta. So anong problema mo kung may partial ng nagagawa tungkol sa ENDO? Kahit naman 99.9999% mahinto endo hindi ka naman makukuntento kasi pure hater ka lang.

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Ano ba yung nirereklamo ko dati? Ano naaalala mo, may hinahanap ba akong perpekto kay Abnoy? Iba yung walang ginagawa sa may ginagawa at may nagyayaring resulta. So anong problema mo kung may partial ng nagagawa tungkol sa ENDO? Kahit naman 99.9999% mahinto endo hindi ka naman makukuntento kasi pure hater ka lang.

huh anong resulta sa ginawa? so ano as in walang ginawa si abnoy!?

 

again ang sabi i will totally end endo....so tell me 99.99% na ba na end ang endo? if so end of discussion kahit 90% lang. if not ilang percent na ba ang nahinto. so ano na ba ang resulta sa. mga sumusunod ... endo, jetski at maglalagay ng bandera ng pinas, end drugs in sux months. oh hindi ba siya na nagsabing hindi niya pala talagang kayang tapusin?

 

patawa ka naman eh ... yan presidente mo nangako gagawin ang mga yan nun hindi natupad ok lang may ginawa naman. si pnoy sa naalala ko humirit ka pa at nagtanong kailan ba ito magpapasagasa sa train. hay double standards talaga.

oo nga naman wala kang hinahanap na perpekto kay abnoy .... yun nga lang wala din ginawang tama yun tao sa iyo.

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Endo issue:

 

Para kay rooster, hindi dapat tanggalin ang endo dahil maraming logical reasons na hindi nararapat tanggalin ang endo.

 

Pero, dahil nangako daw na tatanggalin ni Duterte, nagrereklamo sya bakit hindi pa 100% natanggal.

 

Ano ba ang mas importante, masunod ang nararapat o masunod ang pangako sa yo na di mo naman pala gusto?

ang importante magkaroon n bayag ang presidente diretchahin yun mga manggagawa na pinaasa niya na hindi niya kayang tuparin ang pinangako hindi yun paasa pa na maglalabas ng EO tapos urong-sulong dahil hindi naman talaga magagawa ang isang bagay na taliwas sa batas via EO. ang pinakaimportante tigilan mo ang kasisipsip ng bayag ng pangulo baka sakali lumitaw ito.

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ang importante magkaroon n bayag ang presidente diretchahin yun mga manggagawa na pinaasa niya na hindi niya kayang tuparin ang pinangako hindi yun paasa pa na maglalabas ng EO tapos urong-sulong dahil hindi naman talaga magagawa ang isang bagay na taliwas sa batas via EO. ang pinakaimportante tigilan mo ang kasisipsip ng bayag ng pangulo baka sakali lumitaw ito.

The fact is he did something about it by signing an EO. Only Congress can craft a law that could end ENDO. You concentrate on what Duterte promised without even knowing the law. Again, you have an internet connection, use it wisely.

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The fact is he did something about it by signing an EO. Only Congress can craft a law that could end ENDO. You concentrate on what Duterte promised without even knowing the law. Again, you have an internet connection, use it wisely.

 

the fact remains ... he was not able to totally end endo as promised, right?

 

and the fact is you continue to be a dumbass idiot for continuing to defend your bitch by arguing in circles.

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the fact remains ... he was not able to totally end endo as promised, right?

 

and the fact is you continue to be a dumbass idiot for continuing to defend your bitch by arguing in circles.

So? He did something about it and if it's eating you up that he didn't deliver the total end to endo when you didn't even vote for him only shows that you are a shallow hater. I voted for him and between you and me, I should be the one complaining and I am not even complaining because he did something about it. You are just a shallow Duterte-hating troll, not to mention Marcos-hating troll. Haha! I can't help but laugh at your pitiful ad hominems which only means you don't have an intelligent counter to what I said.

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The fact is he did something about it by signing an EO. Only Congress can craft a law that could end ENDO. You concentrate on what Duterte promised without even knowing the law. Again, you have an internet connection, use it wisely.

 

 

again like i said earlier do not argue with me in circles by telling me “at least he did something”.

 

tell your dumbass president to know the law fist next time before making promises ...para hindi siya nagmumukhang gago at kayo naman mga tanga sa kadedepensa sa kanya.

 

 

So? He did something about it and if it's eating you up that he didn't deliver the total end to endo when you didn't even vote for him only shows that you are a shallow hater. I voted for him and between you and me, I should be the one complaining and I am not even complaining because he did something about it. You are just a shallow Duterte-hating troll, not to mention Marcos-hating troll. Haha! I can't help but laugh at your pitiful ad hominems which only means you don't have an intelligent counter to what I said.

 

only a dumbass wouldn’t know that whether one voted for him or not he is now OUR president and he is accountable to ALL for the promises he made.

 

but hey my tolerance for idiots is really low today and i really am not in the mood to stoop to your level of reasoning.

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again like i said earlier do not argue with me in circles by telling me “at least he did something”.

 

Stating that he did something about the "endo" is not arguing in circles. Before using a term/s, understand the term/s.

tell your dumbass president to know the law fist next time before making promises ...para hindi siya nagmumukhang gago at kayo naman mga tanga sa kadedepensa sa kanya.

I don't need to tell the president anything. But if there is anything I will tell him, I will tell him to continue pissing off his moronic haters.

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only a dumbass wouldn’t know that whether one voted for him or not he is now OUR president and he is accountable to ALL for the promises he made.

 

but hey my tolerance for idiots is really low today and i really am not in the mood to stoop to your level of reasoning.

Like I said, I voted for him and between you and me complaining, my complaints are more credible because I voted for him. I am the one who is supposed to ask him what he owes me. Like I said, you are just a shallow Duterte-hating troll making shallow posts.

 

Does that mean your tolerance for yourself is low today? I don't see anything wrong with my level of reasoning. All I see is a Duterte-hating troll who has no counter arguments except post ad hominems.

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I voted for him and between you and me, I should be the one complaining and I am not even complaining because he did something about it.

 

Like I said, I voted for him and between you and me complaining, my complaints are more credible because I voted for him. I am the one who is supposed to ask him what he owes me.

 

anything new to say??? like i said don’t argue with me in circles. besides those are worthless arguments

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anything new to say??? like i said don’t argue with me in circles. besides those are worthless arguments

According to you. Haha! Admit it, you just don't have an intelligent counter to my arguments. All you do is spew your laughable ad hominems when cornered. Between my posts and your posts, my posts are on topic but yours does not bring the argument anywhere except the gutter. Again, you don't belong here.

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trabaho ni camiar paikutin ang istorya para magmukhang mabango presidente...diyan ata siya binabayaran kaya kung anu anong istorya ang naiisip. lol

 

 

hahaha...simpkeng intindihin yun sinabi ko di ba pero pagdating kay camiar naiba na ang sinasabi ko. galing ng spin doctor

 

Mag-ingat ka kasi sa mga logic ng arguments mo.

 

 

Ang mga sinasabi mong sablay ang "pina-iikot" ko laban sa argument mo.

 

Di ba agree ka sa akin na hindi dapat tanggalin ang "endo". Di ba, hindi naman tinaggal 100% ni Duterte. Nag higpit lang?

 

 

Ito riin naman ang gusto mo, di ba?.

 

So, bakit gusto mong mag-sorry ang Presidente?

 

 

 

Imbes na mag ad hominem ka, sagutin mo na lang ang tanong ko.

 

O kaya, manahimik ka na lang at mag imbento ka na lang ng bagong issue na mai-po-post.

 

Sayang ang bayad nila sa yo.

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Backread?

 

Yan tayo camiar eh. Kapag hirap na sumagot ganyan na lang ang sinasabi. Imbes na mag backread ka. Try going back in time during the election period.

Intindihin mo lang.

 

Atat na atat kang sumagot sa hindi mo naintindihan.

 

Sige na... back read na.... walang bayad.

 

Dalawa na kayo ni Rooster na nagkakalat.

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Mag-ingat ka kasi sa mga logic ng arguments mo.

 

 

Ang mga sinasabi mong sablay ang "pina-iikot" ko laban sa argument mo.

 

Di ba agree ka sa akin na hindi dapat tanggalin ang "endo". Di ba, hindi naman tinaggal 100% ni Duterte. Nag higpit lang?

 

 

Ito riin naman ang gusto mo, di ba?.

 

So, bakit gusto mong mag-sorry ang Presidente?

 

 

 

Imbes na mag ad hominem ka, sagutin mo na lang ang tanong ko.

 

O kaya, manahimik ka na lang at mag imbento ka na lang ng bagong issue na mai-po-post.

 

Sayang ang bayad nila sa yo.

bakit ko gustong mag sorry presidente?

 

DI BA. NANGAKO SIYA TO TOTALLY END ENDO ...

 

may mga apektadong manggagawa na naniwala sa kanya ...

 

so natupad ba ang pangako? now was he able totally end endo? paki sagot ng di pinaiikot ... yes or no lang?

 

 

wag mag tantanga-tangahan camiar, may mga umasa sa pangulo dahil sa pinangako nitong alam nating napako kaya he should have the balls to apologize to them not me ... hindi ako isa sa mga libu-libong manggagawang umasa na mahihinto ang endo kasi simulat sapul alam kong mobalabs ito at isa lang itong pangako na galing sa isang TRAPO

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bakit ko gustong mag sorry presidente?

 

DI BA. NANGAKO SIYA TO TOTALLY END ENDO ...

 

may mga apektadong manggagawa na naniwala sa kanya ...

 

so natupad ba ang pangako? now was he able totally end endo? paki sagot ng di pinaiikot ... yes or no lang?

 

 

wag mag tantanga-tangahan camiar, may mga umasa sa pangulo dahil sa pinangako nitong alam nating napako kaya he should have the balls to apologize to them not me ... hindi ako isa sa mga libu-libong manggagawang umasa na mahihinto ang endo kasi simulat sapul alam kong mobalabs ito at isa lang itong pangako na galing sa isang TRAPO

Nangako sya sa mangagawa. May umasa sa kanya.

 

But we both agree that ending the endo is not good for the country. And from our POV, not totally ending the endo was a wise move made by the President.

 

Then, why do you want the President to apologize for this wise move?

 

 

 

I know why.

 

You want to see his humiliation much more than to see that the right decisions are made for the country.

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Nangako sya sa mangagawa. May umasa sa kanya.

 

But we both agree that ending the endo is not good for the country. And from our POV, not ending the endo entirely was a wise move by the President.

 

Then, why do you want the President to apologize for this wise move?

 

 

 

I know why.

 

You want to see his humiliation much more than to see that the right decisions are made.

 

am i asking him to apologize for a broken promise and have the balls to explain that the decision is for the best interest of everyone. hindi yun nagtatago sa saya ng mga spokesperson.

 

wise move? eh what about that stupidity he made by promising to end endo without making his own due dilligence? na kamo nakinig lang siya sa advicers niya kaya sinabi agad niya. kagaguhan yan lalu nat ikaw ang magiging pinakamataas na opisyal ng pamahalaan.

 

o baka naman tulad mo at iba pang dutertards na defenders niya nagtatangatangahan lang kayong pare-pareho. alam kasi madaming kakagat sa matamis na pangako? traditional politician move ...

 

nun humihingi ng boto ayun kung anu ano ang ipinangako makuha lang ng boto ng manggagawa. sabi nga ng mga tards si duterte lang ang may balls magpatupad ng mga bagay na di kayang gawin ng dilawan. ngayon nasa pwesto na, ayun kalimutan na ...kung anu anong palusot na naririnig. walang balls humingi ng tawad or to publicly explain that he really cant do as promise. ayun yun spokesperson at sec ng labor panloloko pa rin ang pinagsasabi, tinupad na daw ng pangulo ang kanyang pangako via the eo. ginawa na ninyong tanga ang mga naloko ninyo gusto niyo pang ulit-uliting gaguhin.

 

let me as you ...what is wrong for a leader to be humbled and admit he erred? PGMA may be a lady, but she got balls...bigger balls that your duterte when she said i am sorry on live TV

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am i asking him to apologize for a broken promise and have the balls to explain that the decision is for the best interest of everyone. hindi yun nagtatago sa saya ng mga spokesperson.

 

wise move? eh what about that stupidity he made by promising to end endo without making his own due dilligence? na kamo nakinig lang siya sa advicers niya kaya sinabi agad niya. kagaguhan yan lalu nat ikaw ang magiging pinakamataas na opisyal ng pamahalaan.

 

 

What's the use of apologizing?

 

When he made the promise, he was not yet the President. He did not have the overall view of the issue. But when he got it, he decided on the correct move.

 

Do you want him to apologize for it?

 

Gusto mong lang pahiyain yung tao, For what end?

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What's the use of apologizing?

 

When he made the promise, he was not yet the President. He did not have the overall view of the issue. But when he got it, he decided on the correct move.

 

Do you want him to apologize for it?

 

Gusto mong lang pahiyain yung tao, For what end?

gusto kong mapamura sa argumento mong when he made the promise he was not president yet, na nakinig lang siya and did not have the overall view of the issue...sobrang ka-&**&£#&*

 

hindi ba kayang i-process ng utak mo that it was a promise he made to do once elected president? kaya nga campaign promise ang tawag dun ... how naive can you be...wait i dont think you are. more like nagpapalusot na lang pero wala na talagang maisip eh kaya kahit anu ano na lang isagot. kababawan na talaga ...lol

 

well yun justification mo only proves how stupid this president of ours is validating my fears. isipin mo you want to be the highest govt official of the land, ang dami mong pinagsasabi at ipinangako na hindi pala pinagisipan. ano yan trapong nanggagago lang?

 

tinatanong mo ako what is the use of apologizing? hindi mo alam at kailangan mo pa itanong sa akin? kawawa ka naman.

 

anyway i came across this and it is timely to our discussion...

When you are at fault, you might fear that admitting an error is admitting weakness. On the contrary, apologies are a sign of strength. Adversity is an opportunity to show your true colors. It is remarkable when a leader is so confident and self-aware that he or she is able to simply apologize.

 

as i said earlier this supposedly tough pesident got no balls afterall.

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as i said earlier this supposedly tough pesident got no balls afterall.

 

So, even if you agree that the president did the right thing in not totally ending the endo contrary to his promise during the campaign, you still want him to apologize.

 

If this is not pure stupidity, I don't know what is.

 

Obvious naman ang ulterior motive mo. All you want is portray him in the image your propagandist is paying you to make.

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So, even if you agree that the president did the right thing in not totally ending the endo contrary to his promise during the campaign, you still want him to apologize.

 

If this is not pure stupidity, I don't know what is.

 

Obvious naman ang ulterior motive mo. All you want is portray him in the image your propagandist is paying you to make.

tanga ka ba talaga at di makaintindi...

 

paulit-ulit na kitang sinagot you are just arguing in circles raising the very same point again and again ...at ang sagot ay di pa rin magbabago kindi YES! may ginoyo pa rin siya and he owe it to these people. why cant he man up and face the labor sector and tell them straight to the face that hey sorry i change my mind, hindi ko kasi pinagisipan muna bago ako nangako sa inyo that i will totally end endo. shunga kasi ako nakinig ako sa payo ng partido (ayon sa iyo) na hindi muna pinagisipang maige kung kaya ba o hindi matupad. buti realized now that not ending endo is the right thing to do kaya wag na kayong umasa pa na i can totally end endo. we need to strike a balance sa interest ng labor and employers para maging win-win ang solusyon.

 

the only pure stupidity here is that a president wanna be supposedly is being portrayed to not having though of the implications of endo before promising to end it. yun gumawa nun at yun nakaisip ng ganung palusot ang stupid. kasi ako na isang simpleng mamamayan sa simula pa lang naisip ko na kalokohan yan ipinangangako kasi hindi makakabuti sa bayan. pero wag na tayo maggaguhan dito alam natin pare-pareho na pogi points yan kasama na nun ibat-ibang naipangako na napako na ang excuse ninyo eh may ginagawa naman. samantalang nun panahon ng kampanya ang lakas ng sigaw ninyong mga tards kayang gawin ni duterte yan kasi siya lang ang may balls. so ngayon nasaan na yun BALLS? naipit o nilamun na ninyong mga kampon sa kahihigop sa kanya?

 

i know your one track mind cannot comprehend this ...maaring sa pananaw mo at sa pananaw ko ay tama na hindi tapusin ang endo ngunit sa isang banda mali ang mangako at magpaasa na hindi mo naman matutupad at dito siya dapat magpaliwanag at huminginng despensa sa mga taong umasa sa pangako niya. huwag mong paikutin at palabasin na he made thevright decision by not ending endo kasi sa umpisa he made a bad decision by making a promise he cant deliver. at saka napako na nga ang pangako imbes na ipaliwanag sa kanila eh gagaguhin ninyo pa at sasabihing ayan na yun EO at tinupad na ng pangulo ang pangako niya. yan ang pinagsasabi ng kanyang spokeperson.

 

diyan ka magaling camiar kapag naiipit na ayan wala ka nang ibang maiihihirit kundi accuse me na isang bayaran ... hahaha cheap shots for someone who just lost an argument.

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IMO, to apologize and admit that mistake was made is humility. Respect will be gained, not embarassment.

 

True he was not the President when he made that promise. He was a candidate vying for votes and making promise(s) to clinch the votes. So is it okay to make grandiose promises and not have a grasp of facts because one is not the President yet? Those promises were believed and people voted for it. Then if one cannot deliver on those promises, apology is useless? I beg to disagree.

 

A presidential campaign has staff that mimics an actual presidential cabinet to some extent to provide input and advise to the candidate on key issues and campaign promises. So not having "an overall view of the issue" is an argument that is difficult to fly especially with a hot button issue that is ENDO.

 

One of his campaign's big promises was to end the drug problem in 6 months. His election opponents were in unison that it is not possible. He pressed on and got voters to rally behind that he is the man with the plan. We now know that his plan is what human rights advocate is now howling on which perhaps did not cross their mind that bullets are what will implement his plan. Nevertheless, six months passed and he asked for extension then stated that the problem may not be even solved during his entire presidency.

 

He campaigned on these promises and votes were cast on these promises. When one cannot deliver, man up and apologize. No finger pointing. No push back and throwing out labels to those asking for accountability and calling out names for not supporting the president. No push back and saying i was just joking.

precisely! and based on arguments and justifications given by the opposing party it is pretty clear which point is “plain stupidity” here and who is actually the paid propagandist wherein the action being sought is only to protect the interest and image of an individual rather than what needs to be done which is to man up.

 

yeah...change is really coming. f#&k that...change for the worst has indeed arrive. these tards are like their idols...all pathetic!

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