Traffic Problem In Metro Manila (Merged Thread)

[cyberchanch]

I think restricting new vehicles that come out to the road is a start, but needs to be accompanied by the decision to improve the public transportation. Currently the FX taxis, jeeps and other small vehicles take over the streets. MRT and LRT improvement and extension of the grid should be first step, but you can go further with exclusive lanes for public transport in EDSA / C5 / Main internal avenues, reviewing the routes and schedules of the buses / jeeps so you can optimize them and add more big buses that can carry more people.

 

In the end it is also how people drive. The other day coming from pasay, a guy stopped in a small road and we were unable to go through. But the thing is that he could have stopped a few meters ahead and he could pull over and leave the street empty. He did not care, and we were waiting there for five minutes for him to finish his errand. We need to look at how we drive, respect the rules and have common sense too if we want to improve the issue.

 

My two cents here.

[maxiev]

I think the problem here is the people and their attitude. Whatever program the Government may implement will be just a waste of time because of the attitudes of the people.

Yup. The "ako muna" mentality of Filipinos.

[maxiev]

Way too many PUVs, but can we also call out these stupid 4-car households with 2 car garages? Side streets aren't parking lots. Get a bigger house.

If those in government decades ago had realized that coding would result in households buying more cars to avoid their coding days, they probably wouldn't have passed this stupid law. The stupid assumption of those who made that law was that Filipinos would take public transportation on the days that their vehicles were banned on the street. Well that wasn't what happened. People simply bought a second, third, fourth, even fifth car, depending on the number of people in a particular household. Since there wasn't enough garage space for more than one or two vehicles, these people decided to park their additional vehicles on the road.

 

So now, secondary roads, which could have been used to declog major roads such as EDSA, are clogged with these parked vehicles.

 

This is what happens when people pass stupid laws without realizing the consequences that such laws would have.

[maxiev]

MRT and LRT improvement and extension of the grid should be first step,

Not only is the MRT being extended, it's deteriorating to the point that it's soon going to be inoperable, further making life more difficult for the commuting public.

[maxiev]

In the end it is also how people drive. The other day coming from pasay, a guy stopped in a small road and we were unable to go through. But the thing is that he could have stopped a few meters ahead and he could pull over and leave the street empty. He did not care, and we were waiting there for five minutes for him to finish his errand. We need to look at how we drive, respect the rules and have common sense too if we want to improve the issue.

 

My two cents here.

Blame it on Filipino's lack of consideration for others. Forget discipline. Or even about knowledge of traffic rules. It's people's attitude of "I'll do as I want and to hell with everybody else."

 

If you want order in the streets, the first order of business is knowledge of traffic rules. Second, is the observance of these traffic rules through discipline. And third, is the "malasakit sa iba", the courtesy that drivers should extend to other motorists like not obstructing roads so other motorists can pass.

 

And of course, the last, and probably most important component to all these, is traffic enforcement. There is a need for traffic enforcers to punish motorists who break rules. Right now, I believe the penalties are way too low. Penalties should be increased particularly for drivers who willfully block the smooth flow of traffic. This includes puvs who pick-up/drop off passengers right in the middle of the street. This terrible practice impedes smooth traffic flow.

 

Another terrible practice is when motorists block intersections. The so-called yellow boxes are painted on intersections to remind motorists not to block the intersection. Just because a motorist has the green light does not mean he can proceed across the intersection if the road is blocked up ahead. Right now, the MMDA and other traffic enforcement authorities man these intersections and instruct vehicles not to block the intersection even if they have the green light. It's as if the traffic enforcers who probably only have a high school degree are more intelligent than the motorist who went to graduate school in the USA. Without the presence of the traffic enforcer, the motorist will proceed to block the intersection. This usually happens when it rains and traffic enforcers aren't around. No wonder traffic worsens when it rains.

 

And then there are those who counter-flow. It take just one idiot to counter-flow and then everybody else follows suit. A two-way road all of a sudden becomes a one-way road.

 

Motorists who violate these rules must have their licenses confiscated for at least 6 months for the first violation. One year for a second violation, and total revocation for a third violation. Each time the motorists commits these types of violations, a copy of the traffic citation ticket must be forwarded to the LTO for encoding. The computer will flag how many times motorists violate any of these rules and the appropriate penalty should be imposed.

 

Take out these irresponsible drivers from the road, and see an improvement in traffic flow.

[Julianda]

Blame it on Filipino's lack of consideration for others. Forget discipline. Or even about knowledge of traffic rules. It's people's attitude of "I'll do as I want and to hell with everybody else."

 

If you want order in the streets, the first order of business is knowledge of traffic rules. Second, is the observance of these traffic rules through discipline. And third, is the "malasakit sa iba", the courtesy that drivers should extend to other motorists like not obstructing roads so other motorists can pass.

 

And of course, the last, and probably most important component to all these, is traffic enforcement. There is a need for traffic enforcers to punish motorists who break rules. Right now, I believe the penalties are way too low. Penalties should be increased particularly for drivers who willfully block the smooth flow of traffic. This includes puvs who pick-up/drop off passengers right in the middle of the street. This terrible practice impedes smooth traffic flow.

 

Another terrible practice is when motorists block intersections. The so-called yellow boxes are painted on intersections to remind motorists not to block the intersection. Just because a motorist has the green light does not mean he can proceed across the intersection if the road is blocked up ahead. Right now, the MMDA and other traffic enforcement authorities man these intersections and instruct vehicles not to block the intersection even if they have the green light. It's as if the traffic enforcers who probably only have a high school degree are more intelligent than the motorist who went to graduate school in the USA. Without the presence of the traffic enforcer, the motorist will proceed to block the intersection. This usually happens when it rains and traffic enforcers aren't around. No wonder traffic worsens when it rains.

 

And then there are those who counter-flow. It take just one idiot to counter-flow and then everybody else follows suit. A two-way road all of a sudden becomes a one-way road.

 

Motorists who violate these rules must have their licenses confiscated for at least 6 months for the first violation. One year for a second violation, and total revocation for a third violation. Each time the motorists commits these types of violations, a copy of the traffic citation ticket must be forwarded to the LTO for encoding. The computer will flag how many times motorists violate any of these rules and the appropriate penalty should be imposed.

 

Take out these irresponsible drivers from the road, and see an improvement in traffic flow.

 

I couldn't agree with you more.

[sandy51]

If those in government decades ago had realized that coding would result in households buying more cars to avoid their coding days, they probably wouldn't have passed this stupid law. The stupid assumption of those who made that law was that Filipinos would take public transportation on the days that their vehicles were banned on the street. Well that wasn't what happened. People simply bought a second, third, fourth, even fifth car, depending on the number of people in a particular household. Since there wasn't enough garage space for more than one or two vehicles, these people decided to park their additional vehicles on the road.

 

So now, secondary roads, which could have been used to declog major roads such as EDSA, are clogged with these parked vehicles.

 

This is what happens when people pass stupid laws without realizing the consequences that such laws would have.

The sad part of it is that the number of government vehicles keep growing and they too have no parking spaces. So you are prevented from using your car on your coding times but some government employee would use a government vehicle paid for by you.

 

You mentioned stupid laws. Who was the MMDA then when the coding started? At that time, there were already studies on Metro Manila traffic and one identified problem area was enforcement. So MMDA comes up with a solution of coding - something that would involve enforcement. So the problem is the solution. How did this guy pass his thesis? I wonder what school

[Bugatti Veyron]

The sad part of it is that the number of government vehicles keep growing and they too have no parking spaces. So you are prevented from using your car on your coding times but some government employee would use a government vehicle paid for by you.

 

You mentioned stupid laws. Who was the MMDA then when the coding started? At that time, there were already studies on Metro Manila traffic and one identified problem area was enforcement. So MMDA comes up with a solution of coding - something that would involve enforcement. So the problem is the solution. How did this guy pass his thesis? I wonder what school

As I recall, the main endorser of the coding scheme was former Lt. Col. Romeo Maganto. Thing is, traffic flow problems, is an engineering concern, best left to engineers to solve. Traffic enforcement is best left to the police and/or MMDA.

[FleurDeLune]

The sad part of it is that the number of government vehicles keep growing and they too have no parking spaces. So you are prevented from using your car on your coding times but some government employee would use a government vehicle paid for by you.

 

You mentioned stupid laws. Who was the MMDA then when the coding started? At that time, there were already studies on Metro Manila traffic and one identified problem area was enforcement. So MMDA comes up with a solution of coding - something that would involve enforcement. So the problem is the solution. How did this guy pass his thesis? I wonder what school

 

They’ll boil down to the same thing – stupidity.

[kalahupag]

I don't know what they did, but the 7:30 to 8:30 traffic along EDSA the whole week last week was OK.

[Booblehead]

Not until the government takes urban planning seriously. The solution is an effective mass transit system, not more roads nor over/underpasses. Case(s) in point: HK and SG.

 

Ito ang tamang sagot. Isa pa, spread out ang jobs sa ibang cities at probinsya para hindi magsiksikan ang mga tao sa Manila. Improve ang railway system at buwagin ang prankisa ng bus. Dapat state owned na ang bus transit system kung saan ang mga drivers nito ay employed by the government earning a fixed income at hindi boundary. May sinusunod na timetable at bus stops lang ang titigilan nila. Wala ka nang makikitang bus na hinaharangan ang daanan para lang makakuha ng pasahero. Paborito nilang harangan mga intersections.

 

Then phase out jeepneys at FX. Jeepneys dapat nasa museum na ngayon at ang mga FX ay sagabal lang sa daan. Ganon din mga tricycle diyos ko ang iingay, at ang uusok!

 

http://philippinesthesickmanofasia.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/jeepneys-phase-out-na.html- more on jeepneys.

http://philippinesthesickmanofasia.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/buwagin-ang-mga-prangkisa-ng-bus.html- more on buses.

http://philippinesthesickmanofasia.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/trapik-sign-of-booming-economy-ayon-kay.html- opinion sa sinabi ni Lord Penot tungkol sa trapik.

http://philippinesthesickmanofasia.blogspot.com.au/2015/03/senor-penot-kung-naghihirap-ang.html- epekto ng GDP sa bansa. ano nga ba?

[oscartamaguchiblackface]

 

Ito ang tamang sagot. Isa pa, spread out ang jobs sa ibang cities at probinsya para hindi magsiksikan ang mga tao sa Manila. Improve ang railway system at buwagin ang prankisa ng bus. Dapat state owned na ang bus transit system kung saan ang mga drivers nito ay employed by the government earning a fixed income at hindi boundary. May sinusunod na timetable at bus stops lang ang titigilan nila. Wala ka nang makikitang bus na hinaharangan ang daanan para lang makakuha ng pasahero. Paborito nilang harangan mga intersections.

 

Then phase out jeepneys at FX. Jeepneys dapat nasa museum na ngayon at ang mga FX ay sagabal lang sa daan. Ganon din mga tricycle diyos ko ang iingay, at ang uusok!

 

http://philippinesthesickmanofasia.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/jeepneys-phase-out-na.html- more on jeepneys.

http://philippinesthesickmanofasia.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/buwagin-ang-mga-prangkisa-ng-bus.html- more on buses.

http://philippinesthesickmanofasia.blogspot.com.au/2013/01/trapik-sign-of-booming-economy-ayon-kay.html- opinion sa sinabi ni Lord Penot tungkol sa trapik.

http://philippinesthesickmanofasia.blogspot.com.au/2015/03/senor-penot-kung-naghihirap-ang.html- epekto ng GDP sa bansa. ano nga ba?

I agree!

[Doctor Juris]

little things. teach drivers basics. sloe vehicles stay on right to allow other to pass on the left. do not block intersections. when the raod is obviously blocked to not proceed if the result will block the intersection, right of way,

 

for enforcers: doon kayo sa kung saan nag bababa at nagsasakay ang mga jeep at bus na nakakaharang sa iba!! at hulihin lahat. eh nandun kayo sa wala naman nag babara ano silbi nyo dyan? kaway kayo ng kaway habang ilang metro lang kung saan kayo naka stambay nagbabara na traffic. MGA BOBO!!!!!!! O MAS MASAMA KUNG SAKALI MGA BAYARAN!!!! POTEK KAYO!!!!

[oscartamaguchiblackface]

little things. teach drivers basics. sloe vehicles stay on right to allow other to pass on the left. do not block intersections. when the raod is obviously blocked to not proceed if the result will block the intersection, right of way,

 

for enforcers: doon kayo sa kung saan nag bababa at nagsasakay ang mga jeep at bus na nakakaharang sa iba!! at hulihin lahat. eh nandun kayo sa wala naman nag babara ano silbi nyo dyan? kaway kayo ng kaway habang ilang metro lang kung saan kayo naka stambay nagbabara na traffic. MGA BOBO!!!!!!! O MAS MASAMA KUNG SAKALI MGA BAYARAN!!!! POTEK KAYO!!!!

Yup that's what's happening. Everyone sees it but nothing seems to change.

[alphabet]

little things. teach drivers basics. sloe vehicles stay on right to allow other to pass on the left. do not block intersections. when the raod is obviously blocked to not proceed if the result will block the intersection, right of way,

 

for enforcers: doon kayo sa kung saan nag bababa at nagsasakay ang mga jeep at bus na nakakaharang sa iba!! at hulihin lahat. eh nandun kayo sa wala naman nag babara ano silbi nyo dyan? kaway kayo ng kaway habang ilang metro lang kung saan kayo naka stambay nagbabara na traffic. MGA BOBO!!!!!!! O MAS MASAMA KUNG SAKALI MGA BAYARAN!!!! POTEK KAYO!!!!

 

Pansin ko lang minsan kung nasan ung traffic enforces dun nagtraffic eh. Kung walang traffic wala silang trabaho!! Madalas kasi traffic na dun sa isang side go pa rin sila ng go dun sa maluwag. Parang may priority sila na side eh.

[haroots2]

 

Pansin ko lang minsan kung nasan ung traffic enforces dun nagtraffic eh. Kung walang traffic wala silang trabaho!! Madalas kasi traffic na dun sa isang side go pa rin sila ng go dun sa maluwag. Parang may priority sila na side eh.

They are simply not trained to do their job. Basta kung sino sino lang ang kinukuha, mostly mga recommended o relatives ng nasa loob na.

[Bugatti Veyron]

They are simply not trained to do their job. Basta kung sino sino lang ang kinukuha, mostly mga recommended o relatives ng nasa loob na.

I think it's high time for the MMDA to start carefully evaluating the quality of their traffic enforcers. I believe one of the qualifications should be physical size to prevent guys like Carabuena from bullying traffic enforcers.

 

There is also need for some sort of intelligence test. Some basic IQ questions which any high school student should have no problem answering. Only those who pass the intelligence test should be hired.

 

And lastly, there is a need to provide seminars for traffic enforcers on traffic rules, use of courteous language, self-defense, and so on. Training should always be an integral part in the hiring, promotion and improved efficiency and effectiveness of traffic enforcers.

 

The best traffic enforcers are those who are dedicated to their job. Those who leave their assigned posts during a rain storm should be fired post haste because these enforcers aren't dedicated to their job.

[bonanas]

Pains me to say. No matter what laws and amendment happen in the future. This means nothing.

 

Unless we get a leader who's a legitimate enforcer. Wala din mangyayari sa mga panukala.

 

Dati si Bayani Fernando nung MMDA head pa nalinis yung Baclaran wala din na overrule ng mayor dun dahil botante yung mga illegal vendors. Sa Muntinlupa-Las Pinas byaheng Lawton na bus makikita nyo naghuhulog sa mga bata ng Traffic Enforcers at Enforcers na din mismo, naglalagay sila para makapagsakay dun sa mga kanto/intersections kung saan sumisikip ang traffic.

 

Sa Pilipinas pag sumunod ka sa batas frowned upon ka pa. Sa pagtawid na lang, minsan na lang mag go mga sasakyan magtatawiran pa yung mag tao kahit may overpass na, saklap nun tutulungan pa tumawid na naka go ng traffic aides.

 

 

#daangmapuwit

[sonnyt111]

Sa Pilipinas pag sumunod ka sa batas frowned upon ka pa. Sa pagtawid na lang, minsan na lang mag go mga sasakyan magtatawiran pa yung mag tao kahit may overpass na, saklap nun tutulungan pa tumawid na naka go ng traffic aides.

 

 

#daangmapuwit

And if the driver accidentally runs over and kills one of these jaywalkers, he's charged with reckless imprudence resulting in homicide. Which reminds me of this incident along EDSA where a vehicle went out of control, crossed the center island and slammed head on with another vehicle which managed to stop before it was hit by the wayward vehicle. The driver of the wayward vehicle was killed.

 

The driver who managed to stop his vehicle was charged with reckless imprudence resulting in homicide. This is stupidity of the highest order.

 

So if somehow, you're at a stoplight, and a bicycle rider slams into your rear end and is killed, be prepared to be charged with homicide. Of course you'll be found innocent eventually, but the fact that you're even charged for something that is obviously not your fault is just damned ludicrous.

[Geekvape]

Implementation dpat tlga....

[scam]

And if the driver accidentally runs over and kills one of these jaywalkers, he's charged with reckless imprudence resulting in homicide. Which reminds me of this incident along EDSA where a vehicle went out of control, crossed the center island and slammed head on with another vehicle which managed to stop before it was hit by the wayward vehicle. The driver of the wayward vehicle was killed.

 

The driver who managed to stop his vehicle was charged with reckless imprudence resulting in homicide. This is stupidity of the highest order.

 

So if somehow, you're at a stoplight, and a bicycle rider slams into your rear end and is killed, be prepared to be charged with homicide. Of course you'll be found innocent eventually, but the fact that you're even charged for something that is obviously not your fault is just damned ludicrous.

 

And if the driver accidentally runs over and kills one of these jaywalkers, he's charged with reckless imprudence resulting in homicide. Which reminds me of this incident along EDSA where a vehicle went out of control, crossed the center island and slammed head on with another vehicle which managed to stop before it was hit by the wayward vehicle. The driver of the wayward vehicle was killed.

 

The driver who managed to stop his vehicle was charged with reckless imprudence resulting in homicide. This is stupidity of the highest order.

 

So if somehow, you're at a stoplight, and a bicycle rider slams into your rear end and is killed, be prepared to be charged with homicide. Of course you'll be found innocent eventually, but the fact that you're even charged for something that is obviously not your fault is just damned ludicrous.

Kasi inalis na sa pulis ang mag desision on site kaya automatic yung pag sampa ng kaso on who ever is left alive. Bakit inalis , kasi police don;t have the brains to comprehend & better judgement, puro kotong lang alam. So now, the case goes to the fiscal, 2 na sila ng pulis ang may kotong from the inocent driver.

[camiar]

They are simply not trained to do their job. Basta kung sino sino lang ang kinukuha, mostly mga recommended o relatives ng nasa loob na.

Karamihan sa mga traffic enforcers, di naman marunong mag-drive. So, they don't know how drivers behave.

There's a disconnect between the traffic enforcers and the drivers. That's why they cannot control the traffic.

You cannot manage what you don't understand.

Edited April 17, 2015 by camiar

[sonnyt111]

Karamihan sa mga traffic enforcers, di naman marunong mag-drive. So, they don't know how drivers behave.

There's a disconnect between the traffic enforcers and the drivers. That's why they cannot control the traffic.

You cannot manage what you don't understand.

Agreed!

[k1dd]

Disiplina Lang sa public transportation system

[Booblehead]

little things. teach drivers basics. sloe vehicles stay on right to allow other to pass on the left. do not block intersections. when the raod is obviously blocked to not proceed if the result will block the intersection, right of way,

 

for enforcers: doon kayo sa kung saan nag bababa at nagsasakay ang mga jeep at bus na nakakaharang sa iba!! at hulihin lahat. eh nandun kayo sa wala naman nag babara ano silbi nyo dyan? kaway kayo ng kaway habang ilang metro lang kung saan kayo naka stambay nagbabara na traffic. MGA BOBO!!!!!!! O MAS MASAMA KUNG SAKALI MGA BAYARAN!!!! POTEK KAYO!!!!

 

Guys madaling sabahin pero mahirap itong i-implement. Para kang gumawa ng gumawa ng banyo na walang inidoro at nagbigay ka ng instructions na panatilihing malinis ang banyo, ayaw ko makakita ng ebak. Saan eebak? Kaya nagiging ganyan ang traffic sa atin - buhol buhol ay dahil sa sobrang dami ng kotse. Million million ang nakatira sa Manila kaya pag rush hour lahat ng nagtatrabaho gumagamit ng kalsada. Kung may TRAINS, makakatulong itong mapaluwag ang kalye. Kailan niyo ba makikita ito? Nagtataka ako kahit mga Pilipino na nakatira sa ibang bansa na may magandang transportation system hindi nila makita ito na solution para sa traffic problems ng Pilipinas. Bakit? Ang laging bukambibig - dagdagan ng fly over, hulihin ang mga traffic offenders, patayin ang MMDA. LOL! Kung hindi ogag ang namamalakad sa bansa natin walang MMDA!