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MTC Food Trip with Asmodeus, the Smiling Bandit, RemoteWorld, Hopya_mani_popkorn, TequilaSunrise and yours truly.

Pino Restobar

39 Malingap St., Teachers Village

Quezon City, Metro Manila

Philippines

(02) 441-1773

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My opinion

Bacon and Cheese Stuffed Chicken Breasts. It tasted similar to chicken cordon bleau. The cheese they used was more of the regular cheddar cheese and it was quite hard inside the chicken breasts. I wish they used the quick melt version of the cheese, it could have given the dish a little more punch. By the way, the bacon was scarcely there.

Asmodeus said

The first time I tried this dish (which was weeks before our Food Trip EB) my only complaint was that the cheese was not creamy enough and was in fact just slices of hard cheese stuffed in the middle. of course back then, I thought it was because the dish had been resting on our table for a considerable amount of time that the cheese became cold and hardened up.

Fastforward to our Food Trip EB and this time I made sure I had a piece of the chicken as the server placed the dish on our table. Sadly, the cheese is still not creamy and is just like what I had before.

Flavor on the bacon had somewhat lessened also.

The Smiling Bandit said

I could barely taste the bacon and the cheese was a solid block in the middle of the dried out pieces of chicken breast.

In my opinion, brine the chicken in lemon juice so that it doesn't dry out and use quick melt cheese (I'd have preferred Parmegiano Reggiano, but let's be real here.) and add a lot more bacon.

RemoteWorld's Opinion:

thick, hard chicken breast stuffed with hard cheese

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My opinion

Kare-Kareng Bagnet. It was quite good. The bagnet was crispy on the outside and inside, it was quite tender and juicy. The only thing that was missing that time was a tad of shrimp paste. The sauce was bland and with a tad taste of sweetness, a little shrimp paste would have balanced out those elements.

Asmodeus said

I’m not really a fan of kare-kare so I just got a small taste ....... in fairness to the pork, it was nice and crispy on the outside and quite tender on the inside. the kare-kare sauce however was a bit on the bland side that it was definitely screaming for some bagoong (shrimp paste) to give it a little salty flavor. Unfortunately, I didn’t see any serving of bagoong on our table.

The Smiling Bandit said

The bagnet itself is pretty crispy, though personally I believe that soaking the pork in brine for a day or so would vastly improve the flavor. As for the kare-kare sauce ... ah ... please add some bagoong? Pretty tasteless to me

RemoteWorld's opinion:

sorry guys, but i enjoyed every bit of this one. the flimsy sauce without bagoong (personally i don't like eating bagoong) is just thin enough to wet the bagnet before gobbling it inside your mouth

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My opinion

Wasabi Onion Rings. The only thing I can advise you is, make sure that you eat it with the provided dip to get a good taste of the wasabi. The onion rings just lacked in the wasabi flavor department.

Asmodeus said

Initially, I tried the onion rings without the dipping sauce and all I tasted is batter. I dunked it in the dipping sauce (which looks just like plain mayo) and was surprised that the flavor of the wasabi was in the dipping sauce and not with the onions ....... perhaps they should have just called this dish “Onion Rings with Wasabi Mayo Dressing.

The Smiling Bandit said

Okay, I get the wasabe in the sauce, but the onion rings themselves were sooooooooooooooooooo bland.

RemoteWorld's opinion:

where's the wasabi? in the sauce! shoulda been renamed 'onion rings with wasabi sauce'. bland, but i won't mind devouring the rings with my beer

(damn, that's what hmp and i exactly did!)

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My opinion

Binusog na Pusit with Kesong Puti. We had two plates of this dish and it was quite good. Although, I wish there was more kesong puti inside to make the taste stand out. But overall, it was edible and it tasted quite good with the provided dip.

Asmodeus said

When I read “binusog”, I probably thought that this would be an overstuffed squid .... well I guess the squid was probably on a diet. But in fairness, the meat was tender though definitely lacking in flavor. Oh by da way, where was the “Kesong Puti” part.

The Smiling Bandit said

Not rubbery in the least, the taste is fairly mild and understated, this dish could use some heat, perhaps some herbs and spices to jazz it up.

RemoteWorld said:

the kesong puti was thinly applied i could barely taste it.

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My opinion

Mini Sisig Tacos, the next item on our table. I can't say anything about this. It was great! The mix of sisig with mini taco shells was a little short of perfect. Maybe, since the restaurant marketed it as tacos, they should have put a little spicy salsa into the mix, that would have made it taste real good. The size is good for two bites of an average diner. And the best part, it wasn't so messy to eat!

Asmodeus said

Prior to this Foodtrip EB I have ordered this before and I gave it a positive review in my blogsite ....... second time around, I’m still convinced this is one of the more innovative ways to eat sisig. At the very least, if the sisig itself are not that crunchy enough, the taco shell will be there to help give that texture.

But now that I think about it, perhaps a small dab of tomato salsa would help give it a more acid.

The Smiling Bandit said

A pretty decent alternative to regular sisig. Pleasantly seasoned and tasty.

RemoteWorld's 1/2 opinion:

being at the table's end has its disadvantages, especially when the foods were being served at the far end. there was one left so hmp and i shared it.

it comes in small size but packed with yummy sisig and crunchy. ok for me and my beer

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My opinion

Lemongrass Tofu Skewers with Guava-Chili Sauce and Alfalfa. After the first bite, we all agreed that the dish was not delicious. The menu said something about chillies and guave, but there was no discernable taste of guava anywhere. If you were to ask me, it looked more like those bottled catsup sauces. After a few weeks of thinking and disecting the taste, I realized that the reason I personally did not like it was, there was a taste of something artificial in it, something like gluten substitute.

Asmodeus said

I love soy based food products in its many forms ..... be it as a drink (soymilk); a dessert (taho); as appetizers (tofu hagedashi); as a beermate (tokwat baboy) or as part of main courses (fish fillet with tofu and black beans). I was actually excited at seeing the dish right in front of us. But after that first bite, my excitement turned to surprise then to the realization that there is always a first time for everything. (even the bad ones)

Perhaps, I was expecting too much, or perhaps I was just so used to the creamy, melt-in-your-mouth texture of the usual tofu dishes that this piece of mushy and gummy piece of what have you just won’t do. I also think the chef/cook was a little heavy handed on the lemongrass cause thats basically what we all tasted. And oh, the menu said Guava Chili Sauce ........ pretty much tasted like Jufran Chili Sauce to me.

There were 8 of us on this Foodtrip versus 6 small pieces of this tofu dish and still there were leftovers.

The Smiling Bandit said

This is from the vegetarian section of the menu. It was gummy and bland with the flavor of the lemongrass dominating everything. 16 thumbs down.

In other words, with 8 people eating, this is the only dish that had remnants.

RemoteWorld's opinionated opinion:

i ordered this one just for curiosity's sake, and i dreaded the thought of being maimed by my companions. after my first bite of this, i did not dare taking a second bite. i put down the leftover on my plate where it remained throughout the course

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My opinion

TequilaSunrise ordered the Fried Eggplant, Adobong Kangkong, and Brown Rice served with Nilasing na Mangga. . I tried a couple of bites and all I can say is, there's nothing spectacular about it. They mentioned adobo, but the question asked that night was - "Where's the adobo part?" A very ordinary dish, something that you can easily make at home.

Asmodeus said

I would have preferred that the eggplants be grilled for that more smokey flavor. The kangkong were still nice and crispy but nothing special as far as flavor is concerned. I of course was expecting that “adobo” flavor but got none of it. The brown rice was a total disappointment, no subtle flavors whatsoever and were a little dry. (next time I would just order plain steamed rice)

The mango salsa (or whatever it is they want to call it) was clearly out of place. I really don’t know where to mix it with.

The Smiling Bandit said

Home-cooked kangkong ... not really anywhere close to good in my opinion

RemoteWorld's drunken opinion:

these were ordered last. and as it usually happens to those who had their third bottle, i got only one comment: they all tasted the same!

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* Kalderetang Lengua

Asmodeus said

Not really “melt-in-your-mouth” tender (which is how I like my lengua) but still tender enought that one can easily cut with a fork. It was seasoned just right and the addition of the kaldereta sauce elevated the flavor into the next level. I however (like most of the kaldereta dishes that I enjoy) would prefer a little more “heat” from the sauce.

The Smiling Bandit said

The lengua was very soft and the kaldereta sauce was tasty. Definitely the tastiest dish for the night here in Pino for me.

RemoteWorld said:

i like it! it's floating in sauce but i still like it. and its color blended well with ... w a i t e r , w h e r e ' s m y f o u r t h b o t t l e ? ...

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My opinion

Flavored beer. Our "host" for the evening, Asmodeus, told us that the restobar serves flavored beer. When we got there, most of us ordered a glass of different flavors, there was a glass each of strawberry, peach and watermelon beer. The thumbs up went unanimously (from those who drank and tasted the beer) to the strawberry flavored beer. I don't drink, give me one bottle of San Mig Light and it would last me the whole night. But, that night I was able to drink two glasses of strawberry beer (roughly a bottle and a half) and I didn't get drunk!

The Smiling Bandit said

San Mig Light is NOT among my favorite brews, in fact it ranks pretty much down at the bottom of the barrel. The flavorings they added made some (specially the Peach) more palatable, but still, all in all, not really something I'd order again.

a quick question to help me decide on such matter...to those who own an ipad, for what purpose could i use it, aside from the usual games, movies, music, and photos, if i seldom go online, have no social networking account such as facebook, and my work entails a lot of photoshop work and marketing and advertising activities...what apps could i possibly store in it that would make it a really useful gizmo...thanks...

ipad has its own market. if the above-mentioned are what you do or what you look for, i suggest you look for different kind of machine

ON THE SAMSUNG GALAXY S:

After having made extensive research on the top four of my choices -- Samsung Galaxy S, Nokia N8, Iphone 4, and Experia X10 -- I finally decided on purchasing the Samsung Galaxy S. My primary intention was to upgrade from my Nokia E71, which has served me well for the past 3 years. I needed a business phone that will link me well with the internet.

 

Before anything else, I would like to give a very good appraisal to the Nokia E71. I must say, as a business phone, it is very good. I even thought of upgrading to the E72. The only reason that stopped me from doing so was the screen size. There are models now with larger screen sizes so I thought of moving up to the previously mentioned models.

 

As regards the Samsung Galaxy S, I must say it has wonderful graphics. It even outshines the other newer models that Samsung released. It has very good inter phasing with the internet, and has a very fast processor. The applications are good, only that, it doesn't match well with the Nokia system so much of my contacts which couldn't be saved in my sim card had to be manually encoded.

 

One disappointment with the Samsung Galaxy S is that, unlike the Nokia E71, you have to purchase it's office suite (Think Free Office)! The Nokia E71 has it incorporated in the phone.

 

Another note to remember is it's battery life. It's a lot thirstier for power. The more applications you use, the faster the battery drains. With my usual usage, my Nokia E71 lasts me a good two days on its battery. Instead, the Galaxy S just goes on a full day at the office! It does not even last 24 hours.

 

I guess that's true for most of the newer versions of the smarphones. So, buyers, keep that in mind when purchasing these types.

 

Other than that, I it's a good model, although, a lot more complicated than the Nokia E71 or, perhaps, the blackberry. Just like any new toy, you need to reeducate yourself in using it.

i'd been a sucker for nokia phones ever since it appeared in the philippine market. but i've noticed their MAPS still sucks, at least for a heavy gps user. and the applications are flimsy compared to other phones. yes, the office suite was thrown in to my E72, but writing more than 100 characters is a pain. and has anybody seriously read an excel file in his phone without frustration? cells so tiny even the 5800 screen will just fit a few.

samsung galaxy uses the android os, which can be loaded with the rpmap thru osm, which was generally based from our latest rpmap. here's hoping galaxy tab can run the gps application too so it won't be limited to using the lame google maps (scanty database and unplotted provincial roads)

Papa John's is third-placer (after Pizza Hut and Domino's) in the U.S. having a great number of stores (with 2,600 stores). it advertises its pizzas having "better ingredients". It's the new pizza store in town, located at Robinson's Galleria (3rd floor?) -- this pizza store is the 2nd Papa John in Asia (after Malaysia). any FR's on this yet?

Meron ba place sa tagaytay na puede kang mag camping? Maglalagay ka lang tent

picnic grove will allow you to do that for a minimal fee. but considering the low temperature these days, i wish you all the luck in the world. a partner is a must inside a tent!

if we talk about sensitivity, i believe it's only the women who reacts badly when told they've gained weight, or fat, etc. almost all men will just shrug the comment off.

yet in samoa (group of isles in pacific), 70% of women are obese! maybe in some cultures, fat is in

tayo naman kasing pinoy, gaya-gaya sa u.s., when the americans considered it fashionable to be fat, sumunod tayo -- we ate foods with lots of fats. when they went to slim-dieting, kain naman tayo ng mga dahon, damo, etc. na dati tinatapon natin sa pagluto. hehehe.

my weight has yo-yoed so many times it's now difficult to categorize me. i'd been in and out of gyms, dieting, spas, etc. at ito lang ang masasabi ko: it's expensive to go fat, it's expensive to go thin. hahaha

It was around 10AM relatively clear sky and was in 10 to 15 feet of water... Camera level is around 6 to 10 feet as I dive down to get closer.

 

Here's other shots diving to around 15feet for the (A. Stare down with a group fishes); at 8 to 10 feet of water (B. Chasing 2 Butterfly Fishes); and around 5 feet (C. Macro of a sea urchin) .

i took my shots (see above) while there's a dark overcast and around 5pm. i'm sure my shots would be sharper had they been taken in the morning and in better weather. short of time with a full schedule of activities, we went diving even it was getting dark (pls check my first photo of the darkened sky, taken from the dive balsa)

hope the weather improves, i can't wait till summer to use my waterproof camera. yeah, i'll brave the cold waters. brrr!

Here's some snaps taken with the Lumix DMC-TS2

how deep was the camera when it took the shot of the first picture (fishes)? what time and how was the weather when it was taken?

sa timog, katabi ng danny's grill, me group of turo-turo, open 24 hours, daming pagpipilian, but there's one stall i like ordering fish fillet (70 pesos) from.

I'm a cebuano and I'm proud of the Cebu's lechon. There is only one lechon in Cebu that has no equal... it's CNT Lechon.

i go to cebu at least twice a year. eaten at cnt with friends in 3 different occasions, but i never ever liked its salty taste. very salty indeed. you'd be better off with the spicy version, where the lines are much shorter.

when i visited my physician friend in mactan last march 2010 i had tasted the best lechon in my life. this roasting guy supplies lechons to senators and other bigwigs in manila until now. he raises his own pigs (we didn't ask what he feeds them) and carefully chooses his herbs and plants to stuff the pigs before roasting. for that particular day he roasted at the doctor's backyard. it's a blessing my friend knows him.

in my opinion, he's not alone: his 'secret' is probably known and being practiced by hundreds of cebuanos in different parts of the country. for that we should be thankful. i prefer mila's here in manila for plain but tasty and crispy lechon

I used my TX1 last summer. Bought a plastic underwater pouch and submerged under the pool. Blurry. The camera will not know how to focus unless the water is very very clear. TX1 is autofocus with no manual focus. If you've tried shooting your camera in a night club full of smoke that's how it will look like. It will focus on the smoke.

 

The plastic pouch was good in keeping the camera dry. WARNING: The plastic pouch has a very light and unnoticeable oily coat INSIDE the pouch. This will cling to your cameras LCD. And, you will not be able to remove it even with alcohol, soap and water, vinegar, glass cleaner, acetone, or paint thinner. My used to be crystal clear TX1 LCD is now ruined!

 

Backtracking... maybe the industrial oil in the pouch reacted with the LCD coating and stripped the LCD coating resulting in the "mapped" appearance of the LCD.

there were complaints of leaks and difficulty of using a camera housing. canon used to sell underwater housings until they badmouthed these when they introduced d10. d10 is already kinda outmoded, it can't record sound underwater

there was heavy overcast (4:48pm) when we went helmet diving in boracay (january 6, day is shorter than night), yet the following pictures taken 3m underwater are satisfactory enough for me

from the bamboo balsa, i submerged the camera and took some shots while i was descending. the seafloor was 4 meters deep

i took this photo 10 feet away from a couple. the 'mists' on the helmets might be caused by breathing. this i'm not sure. divers are down there to assist everyone (maximum of eight persons)

here's a shot of my kid 5 feet away

once you touched down on the waterbed, your subjects will keep on moving. image stabilization is a must but it's something we forgot to choose from the menus of our cameras.

I'm A SCUBA diver and and avide snorkler if not SUCBA diving...

 

A. For Snorkeling and general beach, water, pool, river rafting use I got the Lumix DMC-TS2. Rated upto 30ft, shockproof upto 2 meters drop, and freezeproof ( i guess for skiing purposes or wintersports). It is a very good multipurpose rough and tough camera and takes exceptional photos with bright light but has weaknesses when it comes to low lighting especialy under water. Very good MACRO though (Both above and underwater).

 

B. When going deeper than 30feet as in SCUBA diving. I use a Nikon P5100 with a sea&sea housing rated to 200ft and also use an external strobe. Got no complaints with image quality so far with this set-up.

 

*** ALL camera onboard FLASH is useless underwater as you get a backscatter effect due to the particles suspended in the water and the power of the flash is not sufficient to penetrate the water column.

 

I'll post some pics taken from both camera shortly...

i saw some underwater cameras in infomax for about 30k each

does anybody know the sked of fire dancing and where to look for them? i saw them last january 6 (thursday) beside astoria. their 3-hour performance is truly amazing. wow!

Diving in Boracay is a waste of money, due to the fine sand, visibility is poor.

It is a lot better to dive in Anilao & Cebu.

sounds like you're into serious diving. but some people, like my group, dive (and do other watersports) in boracay for group fun, in clear or not-so-clear waters. my all-time favorites are helmet diving and snorkeling (and taking photos of each other while underwater).

boracay activities do not come cheap; but for the pleasure and memories they provide, no consumers felt shortchanged

i've been eyeing the sony cybershot TX5.. looks really great! 3" touch screen, 720p and practically EVERYTHING proof!

 

one thing(or 1 of the many) i don't like bout the canon powershot d10 is that it looks like a toy

really matters when that's the only camera you have and think of bringing it to a party, wedding or some other more formal events. not good huh?! my opinion only.

just saw an ad in greenhills, sony tx9 is already available. it can do 3d-sweep panaramic shots, whatever that means

canon d10 has several interchangeable colors, using the silver skin for the camera body will make it look less like a toy, although the 'unusual' curvy shape is still retained.

When in Davao, try Marina Tuna. The best ang seafood dun.

oh yes, that's beside hyundai davao. it's along the automotive row.

i've tried their hito and prawns. matataba at malasa naman ang sauces

i've been eyeing the sony cybershot TX5.. looks really great! 3" touch screen, 720p and practically EVERYTHING proof!

 

one thing(or 1 of the many) i don't like bout the canon powershot d10 is that it looks like a toy

really matters when that's the only camera you have and think of bringing it to a party, wedding or some other more formal events. not good huh?! my opinion only.

you're quite right about the toy look. compared to ge, panasonic, lumix, etc, canon's d10 looks playful but expensive. however, a waterproof camera is usually your third camera after the dslr and another digicam. it's obvious that if you can afford to buy the d10, you've already owned an arsenal of cameras. yet somehow i always see it shows up in formal events. hehehe. its spec sheet says it can save in RAW format, now that feature makes it INEXPENSIVE somewhat for those who prefer to shoot in RAW without buying a dslr.

those who seldom go to beaches or lakes (or pools) will find it cheaper to consider buying the watertight camera housing.

does anybody has an experience using the canon powershot d10? fr naman diyan

i'm using a fuji xp10. it has a 5x optical zoom, 720p hd video recording with sound, 12meg camera image capabilities. though it's rated 3m underwater, i've used it 30 minutes at 4m deep. easy to use, i particularly like its 'natural flash' mode which takes 2 shots in succession for each press: one with flash and the other without.

i've also used a ge g3wp from a niece, ok rin but i like the former

escondido ok naman mag stay staion 1.....do the zip line its about 500 bucks...eat doquito frito at andoks there...(cheap and affordable) or cafe breton or cyma.....shop at d'mall.....

that zipline is now 700 bucks per head.

although nearby kalibo is about to celebrate ati-atihan this coming weekend, there are fewer foreigners this week compared to summertime. it rains once in a while since wednesday but those light showers didn't dampen our sporty spirits. there's also a mall to heighten your shopping senses.

the island is on its toes: cleaning and safety are their top priorities. for newcomers, it won't hurt going to the beach 5am (yes, it's still dark) to see what boracay is like in early morning when the tide is low, the beach grotto is reachable. you may walk yourself tired from end to end of the stations. good for the body, good for the soul.

be careful with the sharp doorknobs of astoria (station 1): classy-looking but sharp at edges. stupid doorknob design + stupid interior decorator = unfriendly restroom. 2 white kids were hurt when we dined there (350 breakfast buffet, taga).

if your group plan to try any watersport, be sure to bring along a waterproof camera (or a tightshut clear gear that will convert your camera to waterproof). you'll love the shots you'd take underwater -- boracay's clear water is bright as well due to shiny reflection of its white sand waterbed

and speaking of sand, boracay's white sand is superior to palawan's white sand because the former is much finer. it's not unusual to see barefooted joggers anytime of the day.

Any news if they have already addressed the initial problems coming with it's first release? Is it now worth buying or not?

the problems had been addressed but since the features are not that really spectacular (save for its camera and video), i'd consider buying it if its price drop down to 18k. altho' cheaper and better models might be available by then. hehehe

The original Trellis is located in Quezon City at the corner of matalino and kalayaan sts. I thas been there for ages and the favorite hangouts of activists from both ends of the political spectrum. It was my favorite when I was still studying at UP.

 

My favorite dishes are Sisig, Paella, and Bangus sardines. However, practically all their dishes are excellent. I also fondly recall the favorite pulutan of my barkada - Crispy Buntot ng Tuna.

 

When I get back to manila, i will make it a point to eat there with the family.

 

I don't if this is no longer true but there was a downside in dining at Trellis. They weren't accepting credit cards for payment and I think they also don't accept reservations. Sana nagbago na.

trelli's in quezon city used to be the "place" to treat your mistress (kabit). after numerous scandals and wife attacks, the place was ordered closed by a prominent politician. many will swear this is the place that "invented" lumpiang bangus. it was a favorite hangout for bigtime salesmen treating company clients

nearby was a place called canimog island, where i tasted my first "tuna belly". the way they cooked it would've made you think you're in heaven. they don't cook it that way nowadays. ask any veteran salesmen who treated this place their favorite hangout to treat bigtime purchasing manangers

i have friends and relative who does boxing for their work out.

Very firm and flat ang abs nila.

 

Effective daw for abs training ang boxing.

jinggoy estrada's sport is boxing, but look how big his tummy is. so it's not enough malakas kang sumuntok kung malakas ka naman kumain. less fat, less carbo, more cardio ang dapat.

just had a full meal at LU GANG, connecticut st., greenhills. in greenhills standards you can describe the place as gigantic (it has a 2nd floor). it opened last november and there's always a long line of waiting customers since then. although my group is number 7, it took us only 20 minutes to get our table. the foods were worth the wait! can't recommend any, everything (9 viands!) we consumed tasted great (from shao long pao to pata tim, etc)

you won't complain about their speed of serving, you get your orders in 5 minutes! the cooks were from beijing and china, so they say. many of the waitresses are even chinese. the menu prices will shock you, down-to-earth ang prices. their parking areas can hold only 20 cars, they better make that 50. in my observation, the service is above average, at least in our table.

corner alonzo, near the milk shake stand that we visited

t. alonzo is one long street, man. which corner?