Jacques Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I know this already. so which one is better in your opinion? As long as you feel the "kick", I think any of the 2 will be good. I think there's a new Xenadrine out there called Xenadrine Super Hardcore. Haven't seen this in the local market yet though. I just finished a bottle of Lipo6 and was not satidfied with the "kick." Quote Link to comment
sikosci Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 hydroxycut or xenadrine? I heard hydroxycut isn't as good as it used to which one should I go for? imo, go with hydroxycut and if you can get the hardcore one xenadrine is also good but its a bit tame in the "kick" dept when i tried one out Both are reputable brands but still, they wont work as intended if you don't work as you should. If you saw ads of these supplements and was awed with the before and after photos, I suggest that you get a magnifying lens and go through the advertisment again. In fine fonts you'd normally miss you'll read the following: The following subjects who took the supplement underwent monitored diet and excercise routines. Results are not typical. i couldnt agree more oh and by the way, larry, as you might have read a few times within the board, get your diet and training in check first as most of us here probably didnt start working out with supplement, we just added it if it was necessary peace Quote Link to comment
sikosci Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 thanks guys no prob glad to help Quote Link to comment
Jacques Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 This is a very interesting thread but no one seems to be active lately. Harsh reality though, I'd say 90% of amature and proffesional bodybuilders are into these type of drugs. Moreover, I'd say at least 50% of recreational lifters have tried steroids at least once in their lives. I wont deny that I've taken the "dark" path some time before. Quote Link to comment
boy_tusok Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 well even actresses are using hgh. i have a friend that supplies hgh to models in los angeles. this is how many of them get into shape now days. anna nichole smith is one of his clients could this be the reason why?.... Quote Link to comment
Flash Sentry Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 This is a very interesting thread but no one seems to be active lately. Harsh reality though, I'd say 90% of amature and proffesional bodybuilders are into these type of drugs. Moreover, I'd say at least 50% of recreational lifters have tried steroids at least once in their lives. I wont deny that I've taken the "dark" path some time before. The harsh reality is that, AFAIK, many of the top IFBB bodybuilders are into steroids, HGH, and other such substances. The stacks can get crazy. The sad part is that they cannot get off it; they have to maintain steroid use in some form for the rest of their lives, since their testosterone level is way out of whack. Quote Link to comment
Jacques Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 The harsh reality is that, AFAIK, many of the top IFBB bodybuilders are into steroids, HGH, and other such substances. The stacks can get crazy. The sad part is that they cannot get off it; they have to maintain steroid use in some form for the rest of their lives, since their testosterone level is way out of whack. O well, can't blame them though. They make a hell of a living out of this anyway. However, Bodybuilders if I'm not mistaken are the lowest earning athletes considering on how expensive their lifestyle is. (food, supplements and drugs) Quote Link to comment
Olympus Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 O well, can't blame them though. They make a hell of a living out of this anyway. However, Bodybuilders if I'm not mistaken are the lowest earning athletes considering on how expensive their lifestyle is. (food, supplements and drugs) Got that right they hardly earn at all in reality Quote Link to comment
Jacques Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 It's summer season once again and it seems like steroids are selling like hotcakes again hehe Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 I'd say 90% of amature and proffesional bodybuilders you see this is why I don't get steroid use by amateurs. I can understand why bodybuilders, athletes use performance enhancers, they're professionals they need to get that extra edge to up their performance. But if you're an amateur and your not training for anything else other than to look good, why do it? Why not just sweat it out like any normal person, people have been growing and gaining muscle just by their blood and sweat since for f*cking ever so why not just do that? it's instant noodle mentality, and it's just sad. anyway here's a synthol user for you guys: ooh big biceps that are absolutely good for nothing are great!http://www.synthol.com/home_lsidemostmusc.jpg http://www.antidoping-center.narod.ru/clean/kunstkamera/valentino3.jpg http://www.antidoping-center.narod.ru/clean/kunstkamera/doring1.jpg http://www.antidoping-center.narod.ru/clean/kunstkamera/25.jpg Quote Link to comment
Jacques Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 you see this is why I don't get steroid use by amateurs. I can understand why bodybuilders, athletes use performance enhancers, they're professionals they need to get that extra edge to up their performance. But if you're an amateur and your not training for anything else other than to look good, why do it? Why not just sweat it out like any normal person, people have been growing and gaining muscle just by their blood and sweat since for f*cking ever so why not just do that? it's instant noodle mentality, and it's just sad. anyway here's a synthol user for you guys: ooh big biceps that are absolutely good for nothing are great!http://www.synthol.com/home_lsidemostmusc.jpg http://www.antidoping-center.narod.ru/clean/kunstkamera/valentino3.jpg http://www.antidoping-center.narod.ru/clean/kunstkamera/doring1.jpg http://www.antidoping-center.narod.ru/clean/kunstkamera/25.jpg Larry, you have to understand that amateurs have the ultimate plan to become pro. In order to attain a "pro card" at least in the IFBB, you have to at least finish in the top 2 or 3 of their shows. Being Pro and amateur in the field of bodybuilding has a thin line difference of the pros having "titles" on their names. Now in pro-bodybuilding or circles of "champions," this is where they can really have the opportunity to earn money thru supplement endorsements and join top rank competitions like the olympia. And just to make things clear, synthol contrary to what people may think, is not a steroid. Steroids are mostly synthetic hormones (testoterone, GH, insuline, etc.). Synthol is a sight injection. Meaning it's basically an oil based substance that is directly injected deep inside a muscle belly to produce instant swelling since the oil would be trapped between the muscles. Just sharing info. Not condoning the use of roids. Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 Larry, you have to understand that amateurs have the ultimate plan to become pro. sorry dude I meant amateur as in the ordinary guy going to the gym and lifting to look good. there are a lot of guys that do have the intention of going pro, but for guys that are looking to look big and muscular, with no intention of competing, steroids aren't the way. synthol is great! (and Jaques is correct it is not a steroid but it is still stupid) Quote Link to comment
THUG Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 is there a steroid that's safe and effective? i guess its a dumb question in the first place.. Quote Link to comment
villainn32 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 i think supplements and a healthy lifestyle are enough to gain muscles..but not as fast as roids users...tyagain mo lang workout mo at wag mainggit sa mga roids users hehe Quote Link to comment
Jacques Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 sorry dude I meant amateur as in the ordinary guy going to the gym and lifting to look good. there are a lot of guys that do have the intention of going pro, but for guys that are looking to look big and muscular, with no intention of competing, steroids aren't the way. synthol is great! (and Jaques is correct it is not a steroid but it is still stupid) Well I guess you answered your own question Mr. Larry. They wany to look good, look big and muscular. It's only a matter of decision for the individual to undertake. Quote Link to comment
villainn32 Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 anyone tried the EAS whey protein? Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 They wany to look good, look big and muscular. which is the part that I don't get you can look good, big and muscular just by working hard (results are not as fast as when you're on roids) it's stupid to endanger your health when you're just a "hobbyist" and not a professional (or an amateur looking to go pro) like I said this is instant noodle mentality at its worst nobody wants to work hard anymore. Quote Link to comment
THUG Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 which is the part that I don't get you can look good, big and muscular just by working hard (results are not as fast as when you're on roids) it's stupid to endanger your health when you're just a "hobbyist" and not a professional (or an amateur looking to go pro) like I said this is instant noodle mentality at its worst nobody wants to work hard anymore. in the first place, looking good or being big and muscular is not even the initial goal.. the goal is be healthy and stay healthy.. which is why we exercise, go to the gym, lift weights.. looking good or being big and muscular is just a by-product and just comes as a bonus.. some people just wants the bonus more than the actual goal... -- its self-esteem and lack of confidence issue which makes them want to build muscles, and its this same lack of self-esteem and self confidence which makes them believe they can't look good and build muscle without steroids.. so its a monster in their head that eats itself.. -- i guess rather than a session on the gym, a session with a psychiatrist might be better suitable for them.. Quote Link to comment
Jacques Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 in the first place, looking good or being big and muscular is not even the initial goal.. the goal is be healthy and stay healthy.. which is why we exercise, go to the gym, lift weights.. looking good or being big and muscular is just a by-product and just comes as a bonus.. some people just wants the bonus more than the actual goal... -- its self-esteem and lack of confidence issue which makes them want to build muscles, and its this same lack of self-esteem and self confidence which makes them believe they can't look good and build muscle without steroids.. so its a monster in their head that eats itself.. -- i guess rather than a session on the gym, a session with a psychiatrist might be better suitable for them.. Brother THUG, for debate puposes, I beg to disagree that the majority of people going to the gym has the primary reason to make themselves healthy. It's a vanity thing out there and I'm sure looking great (muscles and all) is the primary issue for the majority. Isn't steroids roughly similar to beauty clinics? There are risks involved too. But all in the name of vanity. Quote Link to comment
Jacques Posted March 30, 2007 Share Posted March 30, 2007 anyone tried the EAS whey protein? Yup. It's a decent whey supplement for a decent brand. Just for added info though, EAS was considered the leader of supplements back then when they introduced the first commercialized creatine monohydrate supplement in the market called Phosphagen. I'm not so sure what happened to this company now and it seems that other supplement companies have taken over its leadership in the market. For another alternatives, I'd say Dymatize Elite or ON 100% Whey would be a better and less expensive alternative. Quote Link to comment
^sweating_pipe69^ Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 (edited) Brother THUG, for debate puposes, I beg to disagree that the majority of people going to the gym has the primary reason to make themselves healthy. It's a vanity thing out there and I'm sure looking great (muscles and all) is the primary issue for the majority. Isn't steroids roughly similar to beauty clinics? There are risks involved too. But all in the name of vanity. I agree... not a majority of gym buffs go there for the main purpose of getting fit and healthy. There's this purpose above of it all... That's the reality! Edited March 31, 2007 by ^sweating_pipe69^ Quote Link to comment
villainn32 Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 Yup. It's a decent whey supplement for a decent brand. Just for added info though, EAS was considered the leader of supplements back then when they introduced the first commercialized creatine monohydrate supplement in the market called Phosphagen. I'm not so sure what happened to this company now and it seems that other supplement companies have taken over its leadership in the market. For another alternatives, I'd say Dymatize Elite or ON 100% Whey would be a better and less expensive alternative. ok..thanks for the info..someone is selling me this kasi same price as champion..what do you think is better? Quote Link to comment
sikosci Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 gatorade and creatine? what you think guys? Quote Link to comment
Jacques Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 gatorade and creatine? what you think guys? for post workout? why not? Quote Link to comment
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