Supplements - to Take or Not to Take?

[theybid]

when i was starting weight training, i used celltech from muscletech. stacked it up with optimum whey protein. i gained a few pounds only and was not able to maximize the suplements full potential with the program i was in at that time. proper training (weight, sets, reps, rest, form, cycling) is what people should really focus on and not just depend on the suplements that they're taking..

 

 

Some tips for you guys targetting the lean, ripped look.

 

I got this from an ebook I bought and mukha namang it's working for me.

 

 

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dude, what ebook exactly do u have there with you? how much was it? thanks.. :mtc:

[Olympus]

man you can compile what your friends tell you and make a book entitled "

 

QUICK QUESTION SIRS: WHAT ELSE DOES WHEY PROTEIN DO ASIDE FROM BULKING YOU UP? IS IT TRUE IT SPEEDS UP THE METABOLISM AS WELL SO YOU CAN BURN FAT FASTER? GOT THIS INFO FROM A FRIEND. THANKS!

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[Olympus]

Whey does not bulk you up or burn fat. The role of protein is to build/repair muscle tissue.

 

man you can compile what your friends tell you and make a book entitled "

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[argee0503]

when i was starting weight training, i used celltech from muscletech. stacked it up with optimum whey protein. i gained a few pounds only and was not able to maximize the suplements full potential with the program i was in at that time. proper training (weight, sets, reps, rest, form, cycling) is what people should really focus on and not just depend on the suplements that they're taking.. 

dude, what ebook exactly do u have there with you? how much was it? thanks..  :mtc:

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It's "Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle". Costs me around $40. Comprehensive approach sya towards losing weight and gaining lean mass. Most of the info are already known in the fitness world pero what's unique about it is how it's puts things together to come up with a complete approach to achieving your goals.

[argee0503]

QUICK QUESTION SIRS: WHAT ELSE DOES WHEY PROTEIN DO ASIDE FROM BULKING YOU UP? IS IT TRUE IT SPEEDS UP THE METABOLISM AS WELL SO YOU CAN BURN FAT FASTER? GOT THIS INFO FROM A FRIEND. THANKS!

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That may be partly true. The thing is, whey protein in essence is still food. From what I've learned so far, the body deals with different types of food by adjusting your metabolism accordingly. Arranged from easiest to hardest to digest/breakdown, here's how the food groups fare; carbohydrates, fat, protein. If your diet consist mainly of carbs then your body doesn't have to do much to get the energy from it. If you eat more of protein rich food, then your body has to raise its metabolic rate to process the protein. What happens is that your body will consume easier to digest food before it taps into the harder to digest ones. So, in theory, if you only eat protein, your body will try to process the fats in your body including some of your body fat. This concept is mostly the basis for most fad diets like Atkins and Soutbeach. To add, if you're into lifting weights, the whey protein aids in building/repairing your muscles translating to a more muscular body type which in turn translates to a higher metabolic rate.

[little_scorpio]

i take whey protein by champion nutrition. double chocolate flavor. :mtc:

 

 

It's "Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle".  Costs me around $40.  Comprehensive approach sya towards losing weight and gaining lean mass.  Most of the info are already known in the fitness world pero what's unique about it is how it's puts things together to come up with a complete approach to achieving your goals.

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dude, this ebook that u mentioned here on this thread, may tungkol ba sa exercises to use to get ripped? nabasa ko sumwer that in order to have cuts para makita definition is to lower body fat. ganon din ba dyan sa ebook mo? or may certain exercises lang din? sets and reps? thanks dude.. :mtc:

[rayman]

Tip lang! kung mag-whey protein kayo make sure uminom ng liters of water for the day. Ako, hindi ako sumunod sa payo ng doktor ko (misis ko), nagkaroon ako ng kidney stone 2.4 cm after one year of whey protein intake 3X/week.

[Guest k....]

Quick question- if youre taking creatine, are you supposed to avoid citric acid all the time? Here's my case: I take the stuff (creatine) 5x/week on maintenance periods (on training days), and in 2 days of those usually I still drink orange juice (boxed, not the sugar calorie-infested powdered ones), usually on my cheat meal days..am I rendering the creatine usuless, or worse, hurting myself this way?

[Olympus]

Nope. In fact, there was once a prpduct released called creatine citrate, and grape juice is actually believed the best combo with creatine.

 

Quick question- if youre taking creatine, are you supposed to avoid citric acid all the time? Here's my case: I take the stuff (creatine) 5x/week on maintenance periods (on training days), and in 2 days of those usually I still drink orange juice (boxed, not the sugar calorie-infested powdered ones), usually on my cheat meal days..am I rendering the creatine usuless, or worse, hurting myself this way?

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[-=extreme=-]

I've already loose 10kg for just 2 months, I do workout 5 days a week, every workout I do 20 minutes cardio and 40 minutes weight lifting. I do take amino acid before and after workout. I also take CLA capsules 3x a day.

[Guest k....]

Nope.  In fact, there was once a prpduct released called creatine citrate, and grape juice is actually believed the best combo with creatine.

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right. apple and grape juice are the best complements to creatine (or at least the bottle says, in fine print, hahah), but arent they not citric acid- (for the purpose of the discussion, citric acid being that taken/derived from the citronella family (oranges, lemon, grapefruit?, dalanghita, ponkan, calamansi..LOL)

[Olympus]

You worry too much. if that was the case, then orange and lime flavors would have not appeared in some creatine products.

 

right. apple and grape juice are the best complements to creatine (or at least the bottle says, in fine print, hahah), but arent they not citric acid- (for the purpose of the discussion, citric acid being that taken/derived from the citronella family (oranges, lemon, grapefruit?, dalanghita, ponkan, calamansi..LOL)

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[sunking]

I will defer to the more experienced people here...

 

I've been weight training for more than a year. I lost a good amount of weight initially, but I gained some of it back because I had to skip the gym for a good 6 months because I broke my left arm in a non-training accident. Couldn't do proper cardio either because anything that rocked my body beat the s**t ou of my left arm.

 

I'm back in the gym, back with the flab, but not as much when I was not training at all. Losing some of it now I can feel but the weight is still up. Muscle? Hopefully....

 

Right now I'm using Xenadrine NRG 4 tabs a day. No side effects for me. Not like a friend of mine who got nosebleeds and palpitations from it. Anybody else with experience using NRG? Saw an ad for this other brand Thermogain, which is supposed to help you build muscle along with the thermogenic effect...anybody who has used this?

 

Inputs appreciated...thanks...

 

[Olympus]

it will still boil down to your diet. I know several people taking the best supplements money can buy but look and lift like crap since they aren't eating right. Get your diet in check and i'm sure you can do away with the fat burners. remember that the old timers had grat bodies without any supplements available.

 

I will defer to the more experienced people here...

 

I've been weight training for more than a year.  I lost a good amount of weight initially, but I gained some of it back because I had to skip the gym for a good 6 months because I broke my left arm in a non-training accident.  Couldn't do proper cardio either because anything that rocked my body beat the s**t ou of my left arm.

 

I'm back in the gym, back with the flab, but not as much when I was not training at all.  Losing some of it now I can feel but the weight is still up.  Muscle?  Hopefully....

 

Right now I'm using Xenadrine NRG 4 tabs a day.  No side effects for me.  Not like a friend of mine who got nosebleeds and palpitations from it.  Anybody else with experience using NRG?  Saw an ad for this other brand Thermogain, which is supposed to help you build muscle along with the thermogenic effect...anybody who has used this? 

 

Inputs appreciated...thanks...

 

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[spitzky]

remember that the old timers had grat bodies without any supplements available.

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au contraire, most old skool bodybuilers were roided-up freaks.... who train 3 or 4x a day... ouch.