Apo Marcos : Facts And Myths

[boy popoy]

In other words, you really have no idea where the money went which is essential in your argument. Let's put it this way, unless you can show court decisions, I don't believe that it happened.

 

Thank you. I'll take that as a "No, I cannot dispute the PCGG, so I'll just spin this some more and make confusing arguments"

 

(I'm starting to think that your real name is Salvador Panelo)

[boy popoy]

In other words, you really have no idea where the money went which is essential in your argument. Let's put it this way, unless you can show court decisions, I doubt the PCGG claims.

 

My fault. So basically you ARE saying you DON'T BELIEVE that the PCGG was able to recover wealth from the Marcoses. Am I correct?

Edited August 31, 2016 by boy popoy

[boy popoy]

OK fine. We'll just leave it that james cutter does not believe in the PCGG claims.

 

 

 

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/398199/news/nation/pcgg-eyes-full-accounting-of-p168-b-recovered-marcos-ill-gotten-wealth

 

 

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/02/25/1556605/p170-b-ill-gotten-wealth-recovered-marcoses-cronies

Edited August 31, 2016 by boy popoy

[boy popoy]

Read the flow of our exchanges so that you will understand.

 

I understand:

 

 

1. I understand that you refuse to acknowledge that Marcos plundered our country despite the PCGG stating that they have recovered P168 billion of Marcos ill-gotten wealth.

 

-Your reason: Because you don't know where the government spent it. You also doubt the PCGG claims only because you weren't spoon fed info on the cases which allowed the PCGG to sequester the plundered wealth.

 

 

2. I also understand that you don't give credence to much of mainstream media both local and international but instead prefer to gather your information from social media.

 

-Sources you find credible are from OPINION WRITERS such as Rigoberto Tiglao or personal opinions from the likes of Juan Ponce "flip-flop" Enrile. You like to quote Rigoberto Tiglao. Rigoberto is a columnist not a reporter. For those of you who don't know the difference: a reporter simply gathers information then reports it without bias. A columnist, on the other hand, writes articles and injects his own OPINION in it.

Edited September 1, 2016 by boy popoy

[everyman]

What do you expect from an anti-Marcos website? I still have to verify if Marcos was, indeed, a US Medal of Honor awardee but he is a Medal of Valor awardee when he was with the Philippine Army.

 

 

No need to sweat it bro, hindi nakatanggap ng U.S. Medal of Honor or Congressional Medal of Honor si Marcos, although it was said Ferdinand claimed he was awarded such. The U.S. has confirmed that they have no record that Marcos received such honor.

 

Regarding the Philippine Medal of Valor, according to the Office of the Solicitor General arguing the case of Marcos' burial at the LNMB, Ferdinand was awarded the Medal of Valor by the AFP on October 1968. The AFP conferred the highest honor to the then sitting Commander in Chief. May umangal kaya that time? Isama sa matrix, hahaha

[Kapote]

Marcos earned the Medal of Valor for extraordinary gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of life above and beyond the call of duty in a suicidal action against overwhelming enemy forces at the junction of Salian River and Abo-Abo River, Bataan, on or about 22 January 1942. This highest Philippine military award came only in October 1958.

[everyman]

Marcos earned the Medal of Valor for extraordinary gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of life above and beyond the call of duty in a suicidal action against overwhelming enemy forces at the junction of Salian River and Abo-Abo River, Bataan, on or about 22 January 1942. This highest Philippine military award came only in October 1958.

 

 

Thanks for the clarification. He got this when he was still a congressman and not as commander-in-chief as earlier stated.

 

 

The Office of the Solicitor General would disagree with you both, mga parekoys.

 

"The OSG said the Medal of Valor award was given to Marcos in October 1968 (when he was already President) for preventing the decimation of withdrawing troops amid the looming fall of Bataan during World War II."

 

Read more: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/808656/solgen-burial-at-libingan-doesnt-make-marcos-a-hero#ixzz4J152uw9N

 

 

My earlier googling pegged the dates at either 1958 or 1974 but I was surprised to learn of the 1968 declaration of the OSG earlier this week. Might be an error on the part of the OSG or the Inquirer, in any case, mas katawa tawa kasi kung 1968 hehe. Yaan, niyo, tanungin ko si Macoy pagluwas niya ng Maynila.

[everyman]

It's not that I don't trust your word. I just don't trust your source. Anyway, pards, you are the only anti-Marcos poster who I can have a decent debate with. Yung iba kasi kung saan-saan napupunta ang usapan. Either strawman argument yung pinopost or totally off topic.

 

 

Spread the love, brother. Spread the love.

[punkee]

History Revisionists. Now they have a term for it na.

Ive been suspecting such underhanded tactics for a while now, and even hinted at it in one of my posts. Eto, nabubuking na. Nasabon sila at natameme sila. So they scramble to revise the article.

 

Ang dali if you are on the side of truth. Wala nang, prove it, prove it yan! That Marcos is a deposed plunderer et al is history and fact. Even the Marcos family is not arguing that. They are asking for forgiveness, right?

 

Easy to see which side is desperate in spreading the myths.

 

Official Gazette? More like Official Bullsh-t.

[rooster69ph]

History Revisionists. Now they have a term for it na.

Ive been suspecting such underhanded tactics for a while now, and even hinted at it in one of my posts. Eto, nabubuking na. Nasabon sila at natameme sila. So they scramble to revise the article.

 

Ang dali if you are on the side of truth. Wala nang, prove it, prove it yan! That Marcos is a deposed plunderer et al is history and fact. Even the Marcos family is not arguing that. They are asking for forgiveness, right?

 

Easy to see which side is desperate in spreading the myths.

 

Official Gazette? More like Official Bullsh-t.

 

 

the USec apologized on his personal capacity rather than for the office he is representing for this "blunder" ... won't be surprise if this is a move to shield someone who claims to be a close friend of the losing VP candidate and his family.

[punkee]

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Al Capone just evaded taxes. Man, you are a natural funny man.

 

Talk to the Marcos family, even they are asking the nation to forgive FM, though awkwardly.

Kayo lang ang makulit.

Edited September 14, 2016 by punkee

[punkee]

Myth: Marcos is a plunderer.

 

He could not have been a plunderer since he was never convicted.

COULD NOT pa ha. Sure na sure ka a. COULD NOT.

[punkee]

I defer to your wisdom and logic, james slake.

 

Uy, a-kinse bukas. Payday.

[lito leon]

Marcos did a lot of development for the country, just like a good president will do. It is their sworn duty.

but the ill gotten wealth were already proven, and not yet fully recovered. there are thousands of Martial Law victims which is also a fact. Media suppression is also a fact. Those things are not supposed to happen during the term of a good president.

 

Paki define nga ang salitang HERO...para sa akin ito yung sumasagip sa mga inaapi at naghihirap

[Booblehead]

Finally Apo Lakay is laid to rest. The yellows are a victim of their own excess and retardedness. And they did not see the writings on the wall. Also anyone here familiar with Kansas City Shuffle? Read on!

 

https://philippinesthesickmanofasia.blogspot.com.au/2016/11/biktima-ng-kansas-shuffle-ang-mga.html