jopoc Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 If Duterte screws with women, it is none of anyone's business but if he screws with the money of the people, then that's the time it becomes our business. do not change the topicwe are talking about way one conducts himself in public... his demeanor.... you are the one who brought this upnow tell me if what he is doing in that picture is presidential-like. the last time i heard none of the candidates have been convicted for stealing public funds. 1 Quote Link to comment
jopoc Posted January 21, 2016 Share Posted January 21, 2016 Huh? Ano yung nagbago dun? You said that everyone is a potential criminal. When I asked how everyone is a potential criminal, you weren't able to answer it. I just explained that to be labeled a criminal, you have to be convicted. Don't convolute the argument. You were the one who commented on my post and you're trying to veer away from what I said that Binay is a potential criminal since he has a smorgasbord of cases. hahahaha.... mahirap makipagtalo sa mga tulad mong may sariling definitions.... magsama kayo ni punkee.... bye! Quote Link to comment
punkee Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 hehe. abnoytard. there seems to be a certain kind of character that tries so hard to use such words. thanks jopoc. your silence on simple, but obviously flawed matters shows avoidance. good for you. bad for the country. I was accused of flame-baiting. if despising thievery and corruption to the max makes me a flame-baiter, then I am. there is no gray area in plunder. esp when father passes it on to the family to continue the legacy. and anyone who accepts the plunder, even with just the ballot is part of it. Quote Link to comment
punkee Posted January 22, 2016 Share Posted January 22, 2016 (edited) Another nonsensical post from the Abnoytard. pls explain what abnoytard is. since you call me one, kindly back it up with any of my posts to show why you think I am one. I bet there is a poster out there who thinks that one poster is posting responses to himself. Edited January 22, 2016 by punkee Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 tagal ng inefficient ang SSS ... tagal na may katiwaliaan. Ang tagal mo na rin poster ... then all of a sudden the issue and interest for a debate to happen, WOW Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Wala talagang sumasagot ng mga tanong dito. In other words, Marcos' achievements are incomparable. Not necessarily. It just means nobody cares to answer. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) Not necessarily. It just means nobody cares to answer. But you cared to comment on a mundane post of mine again. To this post yes. But to your comparison challenge post, meron ba nag-react? Last time I checked, nobody cared to answer. Actually, this and the previous post are not directed to you. It is for the other posters who ignored you and who are now ROTFL as they read this. Sorry Mod FDL. Can't help myself. Awesome material na naman ito. Edited January 30, 2016 by camiar Quote Link to comment
punkee Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I do not think I'm corrupt. In fact, my company, of which I'm part owner and a senior executive, is Trace International certified. See this link: http://www.traceinternational.org/We have a strict policy not to engage in corrupt practices in any of our business dealings.Our company's ethical practice earned high marks from Texas Instruments, Siemens, ABB, Chevron, etc... I do not pay bribes in any of my personal transaction with the government.As much as possible, I donot bribe the kotong cops - I use charm, sweet talk, etc.. to get off the hook, and I'm 70% successful. But to avoid dealing with them altogether, I drive carefully and follow traffic rules. I value honesty, professional ethics, and personal integrity. But I support somebody who is branded as corrupt by a number of posters here -- Binay. What do you make of that?means you are not steadfast in your values. no backbone. "a number of posters" here?c'mon. here is an example of you trivializing the issue that is why it is ok with you. there is good reason to believe Binay is corrupt by the way he lives, the way his lifestyle is inconsistent with the earnings of a public servant and by the way his whole family has abused the public office. not just by a number of posters. the allegations are serious enough to warrant numerous plunder cases. and here is how you react:a politika lang yane POV ko yan eI don't believe itmaybe you have something against him if you stand by your values truly, then you would see that these issues vs Binay are not flimsy or made up. a more responsible citizen would be more cautious even if they did not believe the accusations. pero ikaw, you even forgot the difference between donation and extortion. Besides, I urge you to be as vocal in your company about pilferage issues by telling the whole board that any employee suspected of such can be president. in fact, support the person to the hilt even while investigations are ongoing. announce to the board that that is how you view suspected pilfering. you value personal integrity? Binay has been caught lying many times. how does that equate to your view of personal integrity? it also does not matter how clean you claim you are. any simpleton who has dealt with Makati knows the level of corruption of Binay. any simpleton. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Having a policy not to engage in corrupt practices does not guarantee the people within are not. Walang pinagkaiba sa gobyerno. Alam naman natin na bawal ang corruption...hindi lang policy kundi batas pa nga. Yun mga gov't officials/politiko ni isa wala naman nagsasabing o aamin na corrupt sila and yet we all know corruption exist.Basahin mo ulit ang post ko. Di mo lang siguro naintindihan. We walk the talk. I am part owner of the company, a major stockholder and a senior executive who initiated the anti-corruption policy and employee awareness. We stand by our policy, and we have the Trace International to certify us. Our customers, through their official suppliers review and rating system, can vouch on our commitment to integrity in our business dealings with them. We take positive action against corruption and bribery. In my company, and in my personal life, I am one of the influencers and movers against corruption. Yet, like 31% of the voting population, I am for Binay. Analyze. What does that tell you? For more info on anti-bribery, follow this link: http://www.traceinternational.org/ Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) No, I'm not a clairvoyant. They sent me PMs. And every time you try to counter, it sends them ROTFL. Great entertainment value. Edited February 1, 2016 by camiar Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Basahin mo ulit ang post ko. Di mo lang siguro naintindihan. We walk the talk. I am part owner of the company, a major stockholder and a senior executive who initiated the anti-corruption policy and employee awareness. We stand by our policy, and we have the Trace International to certify us. Our customers, through their official suppliers review and rating system, can vouch on our commitment to integrity in our business dealings with them. We take positive action against corruption and bribery. In my company, and in my personal life, I am one of the influencers and movers against corruption. Yet, like 31% of the voting population, I am for Binay. Analyze. What does that tell you? For more info on anti-bribery, follow this link: http://www.traceinternational.org/ Ang pari they made a vow ... sila ang sugo ng panginoon sa paglaganap ng utos ng diyos at kabilang dito ang dapat huwag tayo gumawa ng masama pero hindi po ba may mga paring gumawa din ng kalokohan? lahat ba sila really practice what they preach? Lahat ba sila really walk the talk? Therefore hindi dahil sinabi, eh dapat maniwala. May kasabihan din na talk is cheap and actions speaks louder than words even in that one incident alone. Si Erap, he got almost 11M votes lahat yan naniwalang siya ang magbabago sa kanilang buhay at magiging tapat ito sa kanyang tungkuling. Naging tapat ba si Erap sa kanyang pinagsasabi/pangako? In the end, tama ba angnaging desisyon ng pagsuporta nun 11M na botante kay Erap kahit sila ang nakakarami? As they say talk is cheap ... or maybe its what they say that actions speaks louder than words? Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 means you are not steadfast in your values. no backbone. "a number of posters" here?c'mon. here is an example of you trivializing the issue that is why it is ok with you. there is good reason to believe Binay is corrupt by the way he lives, the way his lifestyle is inconsistent with the earnings of a public servant and by the way his whole family has abused the public office. not just by a number of posters. the allegations are serious enough to warrant numerous plunder cases. and here is how you react:a politika lang yane POV ko yan eI don't believe itmaybe you have something against him if you stand by your values truly, then you would see that these issues vs Binay are not flimsy or made up. a more responsible citizen would be more cautious even if they did not believe the accusations. pero ikaw, you even forgot the difference between donation and extortion. Besides, I urge you to be as vocal in your company about pilferage issues by telling the whole board that any employee suspected of such can be president. in fact, support the person to the hilt even while investigations are ongoing. announce to the board that that is how you view suspected pilfering. you value personal integrity? Binay has been caught lying many times. how does that equate to your view of personal integrity? it also does not matter how clean you claim you are. any simpleton who has dealt with Makati knows the level of corruption of Binay. any simpleton. Well, pinagaganda lang naman yan... Sino ba sa atin na kapag nahuli at hindi makuha sa sweet talk at charm natin eh sasabihin na mamang pulis eto o susuhulan na lang kita para ayusin na natin ang problema. Usually, sasabihin natin boss patawad/pasensiya na po...eto ho ang pang meryenda. So in that sense is that a feeding program and not bribery? O baka naman dahil pinatawad ka ni mamang pulis e sign of appreciation lang yun. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 (edited) Ang pari they made a vow ... sila ang sugo ng panginoon sa paglaganap ng utos ng diyos at kabilang dito ang dapat huwag tayo gumawa ng masama pero hindi po ba may mga paring gumawa din ng kalokohan? lahat ba sila really practice what they preach? Lahat ba sila really walk the talk? Therefore hindi dahil sinabi, eh dapat maniwala. May kasabihan din na talk is cheap and actions speaks louder than words even in that one incident alone. Si Erap, he got almost 11M votes lahat yan naniwalang siya ang magbabago sa kanilang buhay at magiging tapat ito sa kanyang tungkuling. Naging tapat ba si Erap sa kanyang pinagsasabi/pangako? In the end, tama ba angnaging desisyon ng pagsuporta nun 11M na botante kay Erap kahit sila ang nakakarami? As they say talk is cheap ... or maybe its what they say that actions speaks louder than words? To you everybody is corrupt, even the priests. So how could we even attempt to be corruption-free? -- Without directly mentioning it, you are trying to discredit my claim that we donot engage in corrupt practices. Well of course, if you're not aware of Trace International, you wouldn't appreciate the efforts and actions we did to achieve the certification. Does any your clients conduct integrity check on their suppliers? Probably not, because you obviously do not understand the efforts in maintaining professional, corruption-free transactions. You probably are not aware that it can actually be done. We diligently maintain our commitment against bribery and we have our clients and third-party certifying organizations like Trace Int'l to back it up. Ikaw, anong meron ka? Talk is cheap, you say? What have your company, or you yourself done to fight corruption? You think ranting on perceived corruption issues against Binay will do it? Dream on. Feeling holier than thou, but empty on results. Edited February 1, 2016 by camiar Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Well, pinagaganda lang naman yan... Sino ba sa atin na kapag nahuli at hindi makuha sa sweet talk at charm natin eh sasabihin na mamang pulis eto o susuhulan na lang kita para ayusin na natin ang problema. Usually, sasabihin natin boss patawad/pasensiya na po...eto ho ang pang meryenda. So in that sense is that a feeding program and not bribery? O baka naman dahil pinatawad ka ni mamang pulis e sign of appreciation lang yun.Nasubukan mo na bang magpaliwanag ng maayos at magalang sa pulis para patawarin ka sa traffic violation mo without paying bribe? Ako nagawa ko na. It worked 70% of the time. Yung iba, (yung 30%) kelangan talaga magbigay kahit bente pesos, kasi yun talaga ang gusto nung nanghuhuli -- maka-kotong. It's not a perfect world. So ingat ka lang sa pagda-drive at sumunod sa traffic rules para maka-iwas sa huli. Pero sa yo na holier than thou, tulad ni Punkee, hindi nyo talaga matatanggap yan. 1 Quote Link to comment
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