Poll: The Best And Worst Of Filipino Presidents

[pinpoint015]

I think GMA was a victim of media bashing. I would take her over Ramos.

Yup. Di nya masyadong controlled ang media compared sa ginagawa ni PNoy ngayon. Comparing to Ramos, malaki talaga agwat nila ni GMA. She is still the best between the two.

[camiar]

I think GMA was a victim of media bashing. I would take her over Ramos.

 

 

Yup. Di nya masyadong controlled ang media compared sa ginagawa ni PNoy ngayon. Comparing to Ramos, malaki talaga agwat nila ni GMA. She is still the best between the two.

 

ABS-CBN started the persistent vilification against GMA when she refused to allow the Lopez group from increasing NLEX toll fees until they have finished the project. The Lopezes wanted to finance the project by raking-in money from the road users. Gustong lutuin tayo sa sarili nating mantika.

 

She also disallowed Maynilad to raise water rates until after they have completed the rehabilitation of the waterworks system. Same with Meralco.

 

For ten years, ABS-CBN and Daily Inquirer made continuous daily negative reporting against GMA's government. They put negative spins on almost all government actions.

 

Their successful negative propaganda vs. GMA took a toll on her administration. Many people, even today, have come to believe that GMA is the worst president we ever had.

 

Many of these people do not realize that GMA put up the foundations of sound economic policies that resulted to the economic growth we are experiencing today.

[rooster69ph]

My ranking of the most corrupt presidents that I saw:

1. Marcos

2. Arroyo

3. Ramos

4. Erap

5. BS Aquin/CC Aquino

[pinpoint015]

I would rate GMA as the second-best president after Marcos. Ramos would be third. One of the idiotic things Ramos did was sell a big part of Fort Bonifacio. This is supposed to be a military base. Erap would be the fourth. I don't need to mention who the two worst are. It can be deduced.

Agree on this. Especially the lower 2.. Haha

[haroots2]

 

I would rate GMA as the second-best president after Marcos. Ramos would be third. One of the idiotic things Ramos did was sell a big part of Fort Bonifacio. This is supposed to be a military base. Erap would be the fourth. I don't need to mention who the two worst are. It can be deduced.

 

Don't you see any better president before the Marcos regime to rank sir?

The biggest corruption of Ramos is the Centennial Park in Pampanga, wala lang pumiyok pero malaki ang kinita nila Doy Laurel on this project.

Edited March 10, 2016 by haroots2

[rooster69ph]

Anuman ang depensa sa pinaggagawa ni Makoy ...

 

No to Marcos, No to BBM ...#NeverAgain!

[haroots2]

Marcos did what he had to do. Leftists were threatening to overthrow the government. He had to silence these communists or leftists.

 

Was he successful in silencing them and even the MNLF?

And I don't agree letting Joma Sison out by Cory, now he is helping the communist from abroad. Hindi alam ni Cory ang difference ng political prisoner and a communist rebel prisoner.

Edited March 11, 2016 by haroots2

[red60]

My ranking of the most corrupt presidents that I saw:

1. Marcos

2. Arroyo

3. Ramos

4. Erap

5. BS Aquin/CC Aquino

 

If we will base on court decisions and pending cases this should be the proper order.

 

1. Marcos (US, Singapore, Swiss courts ordered to return ill-gotten wealth to Phil. Gov)

2. Erap (Convicted plunder by Philippine court)

3. Arroyo (Electoral sobotage case, PNP helicopter case)

4. Ramos, Aquinos.

[rooster69ph]

The gravitas of this argument would have to go to conviction.

 

And therefore si Erap lang ang corrupt. HUWAW!!!

[pinpoint015]

A dumb strawman argument. I was talking about the gravitas that should be given to the pending cases and court decisions that red60 was saying, not corruption per se. Huwag kang makisawsaw kung hindi mo alam pinaguusapan.

You're right. Iba kasi ang may pending case sa actual conviction. The justice system always presumes that the defendant is innocent unless proven otherwise. Ang assumption kasi dito sa atin, pag may kaso ka sa korte, guilty ka na automatically.

[pinpoint015]

Guilty in the court of public opinion

Yeah, which is not justice at all. Then we pretend that one advantage of a democracy is a fair justice system? That's hypocrisy, right?

[rooster69ph]

 

Hahaha...galing magabugado ng mga marcostards. Since si erap lang ang may conviction Tanggal nga naman sa number one list si idol. Spin it to me bebe .... Spin it pa more!

 

#tryingtorewritehistory

 

#NeverAgain

 

#NoToBBM

Edited March 11, 2016 by rooster69ph

[camiar]

My ranking of the most corrupt presidents that I saw:

1. Marcos

2. Arroyo

3. Ramos

4. Erap

5. BS Aquin/CC Aquino

 

My ranking of presidents with most tangible accomplishments:

1. Marcos

2. Arroyo

3. Ramos

4. Erap

5. BS Aquino

6. CC Aquino

 

Those who claim to be honest and corrupt-free are the ones without tangible accomplishment. Neither have they reduced corruption towards the end of their terms.

Edited March 12, 2016 by camiar

[pinpoint015]

The number one Marcos-hating troll is still trying to win his perpetual lost cause against yours truly. So according to a hashtag of this troll, stating facts is tantamount to trying to rewrite history. Your hate for Marcos is not even logical anymore.

 

Ako na naman ang gagamit ng hashtag: #Laitpamore #Tryharder

 

By the way, anong kinalaman ni BBM dito sa thread na to? Senator pa lang naman siya. Off-topic ka na naman, troll.

My ranking of presidents with most tangible accomplishments:

1. Marcos

2. Arroyo

3. Ramos

4. Erap

5. BS Aquino

6. CC Aquino

 

Those who claim to be honest and corrupt-free are the ones without tangible accomplishment. Neither have they reduced corruption towards the end of their terms.

Both of you guys are right. Mga hindi nagpapaloko sa naririnig sa radyo at tv. Marunong mag-analyze, di tulad nung iba, mapapaniwalain.

[red60]

The gravitas of this argument would have to go to conviction.

 

True but you can't convict a dead man so I gave more weight to the amount deemed by international and local courts as ill-gotten wealth.