sonnyt111 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Media media.jpgSorry, but who are these people? Quote Link to comment
sonnyt111 Posted June 19, 2015 Share Posted June 19, 2015 Yeah, that makes sense. For some obvious reason, this could also lead to abuse of authority and even exposing their dirty linen to the public. Like what happened to a certain journalist who has attacked by the Liberal Party to force her to disclose the sources of her article about a "Crime Lord" who paid for BBL payola. Read here the full story. Liberal Party Lawmakers Bully Journalist. I see the hand of China in this issue. Despite the fact that this Wang Bo character is "wanted" by the Chinese government for illegal gambling activities on the Chinese mainland, I wouldn't be surprised if he acting on behalf of the Chinese government. For one, what does Wang Bo have to gain by the passage of the BBL? He's Chinese. So why would he want to be involved in something that doesn't concern him? And yet, he's providing the Liberal party large amounts to help Malacanang get the BBL passed. Makes you wonder what his agenda is. And the reaction of the ruling party to bully the investigative reporter appears that the reporter's article is spot on. If there was no basis to the reporter's article, the ruling party would have simply ignored her. By putting pressure on her to reveal her sources, the Administration is obviously disturbed by her report. Meaning that the report is accurate. I believe that passage of the BBL will fragment the Philippines. It would be easier for China to deal with a fragmented nation that with a nation that is solidly united. I believe China is now involving itself in Philippine affairs in a bid to weaken/undermine the nation. I do hope the BBL isn't passed. The idea that a Chinese national is involved in its passage is an indication that the Chinese hope to gain something with the passage of the BBL. My two cents worth... Quote Link to comment
lomex32 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Detainees with multiple cases, they were chained together instead of handcuffed because the MPD was shorthanded during an event.As they were lead to exit the premises, a photographer chanced upon them. Hello CHR, Napolcom, DILG Sorry, but who are these people? Quote Link to comment
Bugatti Veyron Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 It is different, however, when a central voice controls what is being "sold" in the market. This is the case of networks who essentially have control over the content of whatever they broadcast. In this media platform, ideas are not exchanged; rather, they are conveyed. I use the term "networks" as a proxy for all kinds of media in this form (television, print, radio, etc.). The people can show interest in a lot of things, but networks can select which among these to convey. In a different scenario, networks can even take an uninteresting thing and convey that it is what now interests people. Though it was not true when it was first conveyed, it eventually becomes true because people will begin to take interest inCase in point: ice water bucket challenge. Local media was quick to capitalize on this international fad which, at least to me, was moronic and a waste of time. This wouldn't have been a bad idea if it was implemented in Pakistan today where about a thousand people have died because of an intense heat wave. Quote Link to comment
yuber13 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I believe "social conditioning" is the best definition of the power of the media today. Quote Link to comment
maxiev Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 I believe "social conditioning" is the best definition of the power of the media today.Bingo!! Media conditions the minds of people all over the world. In this sense, Media is a very powerful instrument which can be very dangerous if left in the hands of irresponsible or criminally minded individuals. Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I think that as much as the media shape and influence our society, people also shape the media. Media provides the content based on demand. Drama and sensationalized stories are rating because people show interest and the more people show interest, the more media will show the same content. And because the media is showing the same content, more and more people adapt, accept and follow the content because they find some sort satisfaction. Bottomline is that both media and the people consuming media have responsibilities and both can influence one another. exactly the point I made earlier in the thread. Mainstream media is stupid because the people want stupid. Sure major networks can easily produce thought provoking content, but will people watch it? Will the same people who watch "it's showtime" or PBB, watch a show about astrophysics? If absolutely nobody watched telenovelas or reality TV, then the networks would stop airing them and shift to a different type of content. Garbage in, garbage out. Both definitely influence one another, people want content, and media provides the content they want to see. Media definitely exerts more of an influence because of its reach, whereas people are content to just go with the flow, like pack animals. Now we have two kinds of media, mainstream media and social media, and they are at opposite ends of the spectrum with regard to how they influence people. Both are influencers and both have massive reach, but the extent to which they influence you is very different. Quote Link to comment
oscartamaguchiblackface Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 exactly the point I made earlier in the thread. Mainstream media is stupid because the people want stupid. Sure major networks can easily produce thought provoking content, but will people watch it? Will the same people who watch "it's showtime" or PBB, watch a show about astrophysics? If absolutely nobody watched telenovelas or reality TV, then the networks would stop airing them and shift to a different type of content. Garbage in, garbage out. Both definitely influence one another, people want content, and media provides the content they want to see. Media definitely exerts more of an influence because of its reach, whereas people are content to just go with the flow, like pack animals. Now we have two kinds of media, mainstream media and social media, and they are at opposite ends of the spectrum with regard to how they influence people. Both are influencers and both have massive reach, but the extent to which they influence you is very different.Media does little to uplift the masses. It panders to what the masses want. Bottom line is profit. If media airs content about astrophysics, history, the latest developments in medicine, and other matters dealing with science and engineering, very few people would watch these since they are unschooled and won't understand what is being aired. That's why we have cable television which caters to those who are educated. History Channel, Discovery Channel, NatGeo, etc. are television stations which interest people who have completed a formal education (college level at least). The majority of the masses will never watch these stations even if they're aired for free because they can't relate to the program content. They simply won't understand what they're watching even if the content is dubbed in Filipino. 2 Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 cable is trash too History channel, Discovery, NatGeo all air different versions of the same worthless pawnshop/finders/auction show (i don't really care that that letter opener was used by a famous confederate general), which also airs for ratings. There's not much difference between network shows and cable shows nowadays. Point is mainstream media is driven by what the consumer wants. Garbage in, garbage out. You can point to a lot of reasons for that, the quality of education (I've visited public schools recently and there were gross misspellings in their classrooms, not to mention English teachers who aren't articulate at all), values formation in the home, etc. Fix that, and the audience becomes more sophisticated, making media content more sophisticated as well. 1 Quote Link to comment
Julianda Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 You can point to a lot of reasons for that, the quality of education (I've visited public schools recently and there were gross misspellings in their classrooms, not to mention English teachers who aren't articulate at all), values formation in the home, etc. This is so unfortunate especially to the students who will be affected by the kind of education system in the public school. Lack of training of teachers, not sufficient instructional materials, lack of facilities etc, are only a few problems so to speak... Quote Link to comment
sonnyt111 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 This is so unfortunate especially to the students who will be affected by the kind of education system in the public school. Lack of training of teachers, not sufficient instructional materials, lack of facilities etc, are only a few problems so to speak...I think it was a huge mistake by government to use Tagalog as the medium of instruction in schools. Most articles dealing with medicine, engineering, information technology, mathematics, and other science and technology make use of the English language. Without a firm grasp of English, how are students supposed to understand these articles when their grasp of the English language is below par? When I was in school, English was the medium of instruction. It became the foundation for advanced research when I was in college. Many articles posted in websites are written in English. How many people miss out on these articles because their grasp of the English language is below par? Many students nowadays cannot even complete an entire English sentence without using Tagalog to fill in the words they cannot express in English. It wouldn't be too bad if these students lived and worked in the Philippines. But if they intend to work overseas, they may gain the ire of their employers who may be frustrated by their inability to understand what the Filipino is trying to express. This frustration may manifest in physical and verbal abuse. Filipinos are preferred by overseas employers because of their ability to speak English. We have (had) an advantage over other nationalities. But at the rate Filipinos mastery of the English language is deteriorating, time may come when foreign employers may choose other nationalities whose countries encourage the use of English in schools. Whoever associated the use of Tagalog as a method of instruction to promote nationalism was totally unenlightened and did the nation a huge disservice because of this foolish notion that speaking in Tagalog was a sign of nationalism. 1 Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 To me the use of English as the primary mode of instruction isn't that important, most pinoys learn english outside the classroom, especially those getting employed by BPOs. To me it's not that important, english is easily learned especially by Pinoys. What's troubling to me is the quality of instruction. Gauging by what I saw in my visits to public schools, it doesn't seem that they're getting the quality of education that they need. English or not. I didn't see an emphasis on subjects that matter, science and math. No fully functioning science labs, very rudimentary science experiments (based on the science projects that I saw), in the 6th grade they're just learning about the movement of the planets. While private schools are already integrating college level (at least in my point of view) classes in their HS curriculum i.e. business math, intermediate calculus, accounting, etc. I get a sense that our public schools are lagging way behind in that game. 1 Quote Link to comment
sonnyt111 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 To me the use of English as the primary mode of instruction isn't that important, most pinoys learn english outside the classroom, especially those getting employed by BPOs. To me it's not that important, english is easily learned especially by Pinoys. What's troubling to me is the quality of instruction. Gauging by what I saw in my visits to public schools, it doesn't seem that they're getting the quality of education that they need. English or not. I didn't see an emphasis on subjects that matter, science and math. No fully functioning science labs, very rudimentary science experiments (based on the science projects that I saw), in the 6th grade they're just learning about the movement of the planets. While private schools are already integrating college level (at least in my point of view) classes in their HS curriculum i.e. business math, intermediate calculus, accounting, etc. I get a sense that our public schools are lagging way behind in that game. True, the quality of instruction as well as the quality of the teachers leaves much to be desired. But try explaining calculus, physics, accounting and other subjects in tagalog. It's practically impossible. And I have talked with a lot of intelligent people but for some reason, are unable to verbalize their thoughts in English for whatever reason. How much opportunity is lost by being unable to read English. English isn't an easy language to master. And with a dirth of opportunity to speak the language with other people who speak it effectively, many people will revert to the language they are most familiar with. Take my Spanish courses in college. I aced elementary Spanish, intermediate Spanish, advanced Spanish and Philippine-Spanish literature. But without anyone to speak the language with, I quickly lost the ability to speak it. I do remember some words and phrases but I cannot effectively carry out an intelligent conversation with someone who speaks Spanish fluently. Bottom line is your points are indeed valid. But they're further complicated by the fact that many Filipino students cannot carry on an intelligent discussion in English. At best, students make fun by pretending to one another that they can speak the language and everyone ends up laughing. You've seen it. I've seen it. We must address the basics first (which is communication and understanding) before we even have a rat's chance of studying more advanced fields of study. 2 Quote Link to comment
chuckyd13 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 sumikat ang pabebe... Quote Link to comment
maxiev Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 True, the quality of instruction as well as the quality of the teachers leaves much to be desired. But try explaining calculus, physics, accounting and other subjects in tagalog. It's practically impossible. And I have talked with a lot of intelligent people but for some reason, are unable to verbalize their thoughts in English for whatever reason. How much opportunity is lost by being unable to read English. English isn't an easy language to master. And with a dirth of opportunity to speak the language with other people who speak it effectively, many people will revert to the language they are most familiar with. Take my Spanish courses in college. I aced elementary Spanish, intermediate Spanish, advanced Spanish and Philippine-Spanish literature. But without anyone to speak the language with, I quickly lost the ability to speak it. I do remember some words and phrases but I cannot effectively carry out an intelligent conversation with someone who speaks Spanish fluently. Bottom line is your points are indeed valid. But they're further complicated by the fact that many Filipino students cannot carry on an intelligent discussion in English. At best, students make fun by pretending to one another that they can speak the language and everyone ends up laughing. You've seen it. I've seen it. We must address the basics first (which is communication and understanding) before we even have a rat's chance of studying more advanced fields of study.I concur. Quote Link to comment
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