sonnyt111 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 This is so unfortunate especially to the students who will be affected by the kind of education system in the public school. Lack of training of teachers, not sufficient instructional materials, lack of facilities etc, are only a few problems so to speak...I think it was a huge mistake by government to use Tagalog as the medium of instruction in schools. Most articles dealing with medicine, engineering, information technology, mathematics, and other science and technology make use of the English language. Without a firm grasp of English, how are students supposed to understand these articles when their grasp of the English language is below par? When I was in school, English was the medium of instruction. It became the foundation for advanced research when I was in college. Many articles posted in websites are written in English. How many people miss out on these articles because their grasp of the English language is below par? Many students nowadays cannot even complete an entire English sentence without using Tagalog to fill in the words they cannot express in English. It wouldn't be too bad if these students lived and worked in the Philippines. But if they intend to work overseas, they may gain the ire of their employers who may be frustrated by their inability to understand what the Filipino is trying to express. This frustration may manifest in physical and verbal abuse. Filipinos are preferred by overseas employers because of their ability to speak English. We have (had) an advantage over other nationalities. But at the rate Filipinos mastery of the English language is deteriorating, time may come when foreign employers may choose other nationalities whose countries encourage the use of English in schools. Whoever associated the use of Tagalog as a method of instruction to promote nationalism was totally unenlightened and did the nation a huge disservice because of this foolish notion that speaking in Tagalog was a sign of nationalism. 1 Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 To me the use of English as the primary mode of instruction isn't that important, most pinoys learn english outside the classroom, especially those getting employed by BPOs. To me it's not that important, english is easily learned especially by Pinoys. What's troubling to me is the quality of instruction. Gauging by what I saw in my visits to public schools, it doesn't seem that they're getting the quality of education that they need. English or not. I didn't see an emphasis on subjects that matter, science and math. No fully functioning science labs, very rudimentary science experiments (based on the science projects that I saw), in the 6th grade they're just learning about the movement of the planets. While private schools are already integrating college level (at least in my point of view) classes in their HS curriculum i.e. business math, intermediate calculus, accounting, etc. I get a sense that our public schools are lagging way behind in that game. 1 Quote Link to comment
sonnyt111 Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 To me the use of English as the primary mode of instruction isn't that important, most pinoys learn english outside the classroom, especially those getting employed by BPOs. To me it's not that important, english is easily learned especially by Pinoys. What's troubling to me is the quality of instruction. Gauging by what I saw in my visits to public schools, it doesn't seem that they're getting the quality of education that they need. English or not. I didn't see an emphasis on subjects that matter, science and math. No fully functioning science labs, very rudimentary science experiments (based on the science projects that I saw), in the 6th grade they're just learning about the movement of the planets. While private schools are already integrating college level (at least in my point of view) classes in their HS curriculum i.e. business math, intermediate calculus, accounting, etc. I get a sense that our public schools are lagging way behind in that game. True, the quality of instruction as well as the quality of the teachers leaves much to be desired. But try explaining calculus, physics, accounting and other subjects in tagalog. It's practically impossible. And I have talked with a lot of intelligent people but for some reason, are unable to verbalize their thoughts in English for whatever reason. How much opportunity is lost by being unable to read English. English isn't an easy language to master. And with a dirth of opportunity to speak the language with other people who speak it effectively, many people will revert to the language they are most familiar with. Take my Spanish courses in college. I aced elementary Spanish, intermediate Spanish, advanced Spanish and Philippine-Spanish literature. But without anyone to speak the language with, I quickly lost the ability to speak it. I do remember some words and phrases but I cannot effectively carry out an intelligent conversation with someone who speaks Spanish fluently. Bottom line is your points are indeed valid. But they're further complicated by the fact that many Filipino students cannot carry on an intelligent discussion in English. At best, students make fun by pretending to one another that they can speak the language and everyone ends up laughing. You've seen it. I've seen it. We must address the basics first (which is communication and understanding) before we even have a rat's chance of studying more advanced fields of study. 2 Quote Link to comment
chuckyd13 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 sumikat ang pabebe... Quote Link to comment
maxiev Posted July 27, 2015 Share Posted July 27, 2015 True, the quality of instruction as well as the quality of the teachers leaves much to be desired. But try explaining calculus, physics, accounting and other subjects in tagalog. It's practically impossible. And I have talked with a lot of intelligent people but for some reason, are unable to verbalize their thoughts in English for whatever reason. How much opportunity is lost by being unable to read English. English isn't an easy language to master. And with a dirth of opportunity to speak the language with other people who speak it effectively, many people will revert to the language they are most familiar with. Take my Spanish courses in college. I aced elementary Spanish, intermediate Spanish, advanced Spanish and Philippine-Spanish literature. But without anyone to speak the language with, I quickly lost the ability to speak it. I do remember some words and phrases but I cannot effectively carry out an intelligent conversation with someone who speaks Spanish fluently. Bottom line is your points are indeed valid. But they're further complicated by the fact that many Filipino students cannot carry on an intelligent discussion in English. At best, students make fun by pretending to one another that they can speak the language and everyone ends up laughing. You've seen it. I've seen it. We must address the basics first (which is communication and understanding) before we even have a rat's chance of studying more advanced fields of study.I concur. Quote Link to comment
tmhatyp2 Posted July 28, 2015 Share Posted July 28, 2015 How it affects people? It gives us what we want to see and hear in ways that are most convenient. It's the norm as viewership volume and advertising dictate the game. Passive viewing being convenient, most we'd get from media is sex, romance, and violence. That includes verbal forms of violence as seen on primetime TV drama. The idiotic cycle goes on. Advertising money keeps on flowing in. THE DUMB GETS DUMBER. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 The western media constantly demonizes muslims and arabs. Kaya tuloy ang daming tao na tingin puro muslim lang ang terrorista. When in fact, according to the FBI database only 6% of terrorist organizations in the world are islamic. There are in fact more jewish terrorist. And over the last decades, most of the anti-US attacks were committed by south american Latino groups. Many people do not even know there are Christian terrorist organizations that can match the brutality of the ISIS The ISIS and all other muslim radicals get a lot of media coverage from CNN (mostly owned by Jews) and FOX news (Controlled by republicans who want to control oil in the middle east), yet pay lesser attention to other acts of violence committed by non-muslims. Myanmar for instance that has been plagued with civil war. Children are being hacked in that place and it does not get as much media coverage. The focus is in the middle east where the west wants to establish stronger military bases, and let their companies have better control of their oilfields. Even in movies, kung sino kalaban ng America, sila lagi kontrabida sa pelikula When the US lost in vietnam, communists were the bad guys (The Deer hunter, Rambo 1 and 2, Missing in action movies)During the cold war, Russians were the bad guys (Rambo III, Red Dawn, Rambo II)And since the US has taken interest in those oil fields, arabs and muslims are the bad guys (too many to even mention) All of these is propaganda for the public to keep supporting western occupancy in the middle east 1 Quote Link to comment
Ryuji_tanaka Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 The western media constantly demonizes muslims and arabs. Kaya tuloy ang daming tao na tingin puro muslim lang ang terrorista. When in fact, according to the FBI database only 6% of terrorist organizations in the world are islamic. There are in fact more jewish terrorist. And over the last decades, most of the anti-US attacks were committed by south american Latino groups. Many people do not even know there are Christian terrorist organizations that can match the brutality of the ISIS The ISIS and all other muslim radicals get a lot of media coverage from CNN (mostly owned by Jews) and FOX news (Controlled by republicans who want to control oil in the middle east), yet pay lesser attention to other acts of violence committed by non-muslims. Myanmar for instance that has been plagued with civil war. Children are being hacked in that place and it does not get as much media coverage. The focus is in the middle east where the west wants to establish stronger military bases, and let their companies have better control of their oilfields. Even in movies, kung sino kalaban ng America, sila lagi kontrabida sa pelikula When the US lost in vietnam, communists were the bad guys (The Deer hunter, Rambo 1 and 2, Missing in action movies)During the cold war, Russians were the bad guys (Rambo III, Red Dawn, Rambo II)And since the US has taken interest in those oil fields, arabs and muslims are the bad guys (too many to even mention) All of these is propaganda for the public to keep supporting western occupancy in the middle eastHere is a hint: http://www.storyleak.com/graphic-6-corporations-own-90-percent-of-media/ Quote Link to comment
Julianda Posted September 27, 2015 Author Share Posted September 27, 2015 Is there really such a thing as responsible journalism on the said event? http://i60.tinypic.com/15f0k28.jpg Quote Link to comment
Ignatum Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFvT_qEZJf8 Quote Link to comment
jacuzzi Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Is there really such a thing as responsible journalism on the said event? http://i60.tinypic.com/15f0k28.jpgA friend who watched the Movie about Antonio Luna concluded that Filipinos are urged by the movie lesson to support a president like Duterte. But the movie, I suppose is a letdown for historians since the script writer is Chinese and failed to appreciate nationalism. There is nothing wrong with using multimedia movies to show a version of history. But in China, let us understand that the communists suffered from nationalist allegiance. So maybe someone ought to recheck Chinese movies in the past 70 years and examine if this Luna movie is unique or is a copied art work. Quote Link to comment
FleurDeLune Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 A friend who watched the Movie about Antonio Luna concluded that Filipinos are urged by the movie lesson to support a president like Duterte. But the movie, I suppose is a letdown for historians since the script writer is Chinese and failed to appreciate nationalism. There is nothing wrong with using multimedia movies to show a version of history. But in China, let us understand that the communists suffered from nationalist allegiance. So maybe someone ought to recheck Chinese movies in the past 70 years and examine if this Luna movie is unique or is a copied art work. And who is that Chinese screen or scriptwriter? Quote Link to comment
jacuzzi Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 And who is that Chinese screen or scriptwriter? i did not get his name although this was news this morning. Perhaps google the movie credits? In Truth this advocacy for national heroes ought to understand how nationalism erupted from the French Revolution, and that it shares common roots with socialism as promoted by Lenin. Fact is Chinese politicians toppled the monarchy using both Nationalism and communism, which are borrowed ideas from the West. The ideas that inspired our heroes were spread from Europe during what is now labeled as the Age of Nationalism. Before we take for granted that our young heroes including Rizal were affected or seized by fashion the of the moment, we must understand that nationalism is a big stumbling block to democracy, and that many who had espoused this succumb to strong man rule. American democracy meanwhile rose up ahead of the French Revolution and never used nationalism as basis for its gaining independence from the British. Maybe it was a blessing our nationalist heroes did not thrive. When we wanted democracy, Filipinos were forced to learn from the Americans, which had so far been a success with the system. Quote Link to comment
FleurDeLune Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 i did not get his name although this was news this morning. Perhaps google the movie credits? Ok, here is the list of the screenwriters of Heneral Luna, the movie. Directed by Jerrold Tarog Written by E.A. Rocha Henry Hunt FranciaJerrold Tarog Who among the 3 individuals is Chinese? Quote Link to comment
jacuzzi Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Ok, here is the list of the screenwriters of Heneral Luna, the movie. Directed by Jerrold Tarog Written by E.A. Rocha Henry Hunt FranciaJerrold Tarog Who among the 3 individuals is Chinese? The script writer? I suppose this topic will not just die out. In fact it is just gaining some following, reason for the news. Movies intended for commercial payback are not documentaries but drama based on some history. It may be captivating and inspiring but in the end, it is all for the business of entertainment. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted October 2, 2015 Share Posted October 2, 2015 ...But the movie, I suppose is a letdown for historians since the script writer is Chinese and failed to appreciate nationalism... Ok, here is the list of the screenwriters of Heneral Luna, the movie. Directed by Jerrold Tarog Written by E.A. RochaHenry Hunt FranciaJerrold Tarog Who among the 3 individuals is Chinese? I guess Jacuzzi was misinformed. The scriptwriter is not Chinese as he claims.To quote Wikipedia:"The first draft of Heneral Luna was written in 1998 by E.A. Rocha and Henry Hunt Francia, who chose to write about Antonio Luna after being hired by Cirio Santiago to write a television script for a television series in celebration of the centennial of Philippine independence. When the series failed to push through, Rocha and Francia were asked to rewrite the script as a feature-length film. The film did not go into production, however, and was shelved for seventeen years.[9] Eventually, Leo Martinez convinced Rocha to submit the script to the Film Development Council of the Philippines.[10]Jerrold Tarog, who had separately developed an interest in making a Luna film after reading literature about Luna, learned about the Rocha and Francia script, and asked if he could use for his planned film. Tarog re-wrote the script, which was originally written in English, with fellow director Alvin Yapan helping translate the script into Tagalog.[9] Francia died before the film's release.[11]Among Tarog's references during the rewriting of the script were Philippine National Artist Nick Joaquin's A Question of Heroes, which he used as a guide to the film's tone and in humanizing the character of the titular protagonist; and Vivencio José's The Rise and Fall of Antonio Luna, which Tarog used as the primary source on Antonio Luna's life.[9]" 1 Quote Link to comment
jacuzzi Posted October 3, 2015 Share Posted October 3, 2015 I guess Jacuzzi was misinformed. The scriptwriter is not Chinese as he claims. I hope that is the case since we are under threat from the Chinese and this movie would be a security issue if that was true. But it was news. The photo of the person was flashed. I was just listening and saw the photo but not really hooked on it. I even had to ask other watching the program to confirm what I saw. Moreover, today a similar radio-TV program discussed this movie and a fan of the late dictator plugged his belief based on this movie = history version. He believes the late Ferdinand Marcos fits the hero image of our nation and the movie is testament to this. Anyway no use proving or disproving another opinion. I am sharing this to gain feedback. Everyday, comments from relatives who got differing but intimate details of what happened, students of history, former academicians and similar published history authors try to correct wrong impressions about the movie.The movie itself is not taking responsibility and starts with a huge DISCLAIMER. So, would you like to defend a movie made for entertainment? As I said, I am not really dwelling on the past. I am surprised our insular history does not sync with world history. If our scholars had been more erudite, they would discover the Truth and not hero worship their fellow. Quote Link to comment
Julianda Posted October 4, 2015 Author Share Posted October 4, 2015 I guess Jacuzzi was misinformed. The scriptwriter is not Chinese as he claims. There's an elephant in the room (that's so persistent) that we can't just ignore it. Quote Link to comment
FleurDeLune Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Napansin ko, nitong umuwi ako ng huli. Wala ng ibang palabas kundi drama. Bale Morning NewsCartoonsDramaNoontime VarietyDramaDramaDramaDrama6'o clock newsDramaDramaDramaDramaShowbiz ChismisSinging contestDramaDramaDramaEvening NewsDramaDocumentarySign off Etong mga dramang ito, iisa lang naman kwento lagi. Tungkol sa pagiibigan ng langit at lupa. Tungkol sa isang anak na matagal ng nawawala. Tungkol sa paghihiganti. At higit sa lahat Mayaman at may pinagaralan = Masama. Mahirap = Biktima. Ano ang aral? Huwag na magaaral dapat, laging isipin na di mo kasalanan na mahirap ka. Wala na talaga tayong creative programing sa panahon na ito. Kawawa lang ang masa na di naman kaya magbayad ng cable. Ang TV lang ang pinakapinagkukunan nila ng kaalaman. Ano matutunan nila kung puros drama sa magdamag pinapanood nila, at yung mga documentaries na informative pinapalabas kung kelan antok na mga tao. Ang tingin ko, talagang sinasadya yata ito ng dambuhalang mga media networks para panatilihing mangmang, busabos, at patay gutom ang mga masa. Kasi mas pakikinabangan sila ng ganun. We can just sum up your post with this meme. And agree to every line that you've said. Quote Link to comment
HappyEnding69 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Yup, puro drama na lang. Never nga tinuro yung pag-iinvest sa stocks in schools. Quote Link to comment
mtcnono Posted November 1, 2015 Share Posted November 1, 2015 Media affects us greatly, sa pilipinas kahit drama na ordinaryo may barilan, kamag-anak pinapatay sariling kamag-anak, pag-hihiganti, atbp... un ang masamarami sa mga Drama, kaysa sa Moral Lesson. So ang natatanim sa mga Tao ay un mas-maraming masasamang ugali. Miski sa Pagregulate ng Panonood. Sa ibang bansa kapag PG13 or any rating mas-malaking percentage ng sumusunod sa Rating. Dito kahit drama na walang kwenta pinapanood ng maliliit na bata kasama ng magulang. Kaya bata palang natututo na manligaw at lumandi ng mga elementary students. Sa balita naman mas-marami ang negatibo sa government, bihira ka makarinig ng Accomplishment, so ang tao pabagsak ang tiwala sa gobyerno, imbes na tumaas ang tiwala. (Kahit tiwali ang opisyal, kung maganda rating nya at nagpapakitang tao sya na marami sya natatapos na projects, masmarami natatapos na projects un kasya sa hindi corrupt) Meron mga bansa, Ok lang sa kanila na Corrupt ang Officials, basta nakikita ng mga tao na umuunlad ang pamumuhay nila at ang bansa nila ok lang un. Kaysa naman un pag-upo sa pwesto ang iniintindi un ungkatin un kasalanan ng ibang opisyal para maganda ang image nya, mas-ok na un Opisyal na kumuha ng kickback pero nakita mo na malaki ang naitulong sa bayan at marami nakinabang. Even Pulis, mas-malaki ang percentage ng palabas na tiwali ang pulis sa Pilipinas. Noon-Time Shows mas-marami sa history ng Noontime shows ng philippines ang mga dancers or performances na pinapakita ang malalaswang sayaw, galaw na hindi appropriate sa Noon-Time na marami bata nanonood. Example sa Japan, Japan's Entertainment in Sexy idols and Pornography has been around for so long, that majority of Japanese are not conservative, they embrace their sexuality and TV with Nudity is very common. In North Korea, they have children shows/ cartoons wherein North Koreans are good, and americans are the bad guys. so children grow up knowing and believing that Americans are Evil. Media plays a great role, because people, learn, and adapt slowly to thing they are seeing. Media can Insinuate ideas into people at a very large scale, Media can even create mass Panic if they deem so in News. 1 Quote Link to comment
temurlenk Posted November 2, 2015 Share Posted November 2, 2015 Everything I need to know I learned from Sesame Street. Quote Link to comment
Cap™ Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 well, media creates trends. Trends shape how people perceive things. Bias occurs. Now, mainstream media (i.e. print and television) is kinda dead and social media takes place. Quote Link to comment
Ryuji_tanaka Posted November 3, 2015 Share Posted November 3, 2015 Ang mga kabataan ngayon, walang modo at di na magalang sa mga babae, wala nang GMRC. Napupulot nila yung mga ugali sa Gangsta culture at rap vids from the US. Quote Link to comment
nakadashi Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Spotan niyo yung Kontrabando..search niyo sa Youtube.. Quote Link to comment
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