Falling For A Therapist - Merged Thread

[Noname01]

7 hours ago, knightdavion said:

Wanna ask you here. If the woman (thera) introdure you to her mother and sisrer how you guys see this?

This is a different story brother.. also bro you can feel if genuine tlga un woman mahirap ma fake yan through actions. But sa words they can hide it or fake it..

[plug]

On 12/26/2022 at 7:27 PM, knightdavion said:

If you know the thera have BF did you willprovide her and make her better future? Sponsor her?

Eto yung mga kwento kung saan si thera nag babanggit ng bf/partner. Malamang nag papa presyo lang o gusto niya na balikan mo siya for another fee.

Sa Ameca hindi naman kasi ako nagpapa masahe so understood na ni thera na diretsong ES na. With only the towel covering my private part nag hubad naman siya naiwan na lang yung two piece bikini. So I asked her kung payag siyang parehas kaming hubot hubad then body action and touching pero walang fingering and penetration or ATW. Ang sagot faithful daw siya sa bf niya kaya HJ lang ang ES habang titignan ko na lang siya wearing the bikini. Nakipagnegotiate ako pero di daw pwede then nagpaalam at ikinuha ako ng tubig sa baso. Pagbalik inabutan ko ng 1k at nagpaalam na ako. Biglang bwelta na kunin ko raw number niya para sa susunod baka pumayag siya nangulit pa. Hindi ko na inulitan. Siya yung ang bikini ay camouflaged with sexy body na may pagka dark na morena. 

Sa Kuusamo Pasong Tamo inalok ko si thera ng ATW. Kasagot sagot ayaw daw niya kasi baka mabisto daw ng bf niya na dahil lumuwag ang pussy niya. So nag paalam na lang ako sabay abot ng 1k. Kasabi sabi balikan ko raw siya at papayag na raw siya. Hindi ko binalikan.

Sa Kuusamo sa Quezon Av nasabi ko kay thera na papunta sana ako sa Sylvanus for ATW pero gusto munang masubukan ang spakol. Nagtanong siya kung magkano ATW sa Sylvanus at sinagot ko ng 1500 pesos then pumayag siya. During the act nasabi ko"ang sikip mo pa pala". Ang sagot "oo naman wala naman akong boyfriend". This was my first time sa spakol in 2009 naka ATW agad. 

Sa ngayon wala ng thera na magsasabi na may bf/partner/asawa siya.

[K0RN - RETIR3D]

On 12/29/2022 at 12:43 PM, handsomebob said:

You will know naman na mahal ka ng isang thera / attendant and she will make you feel na hindi ka lang guest!!

the complications lang talaga ng work niya plus if she is that driven  na mag succeed sa buhay..

for what it's worth, I knew she LOVED ME and was really honest!

(ayan nag share nako, haha )

Utang muna yung 🏆 My Friend. Pero mukhang bitin yung share mo. Hahaha! 

[handsomebob]

3 minutes ago, K0RN - RETIR3D said:

Utang muna yung 🏆 My Friend. Pero mukhang bitin yung share mo. Hahaha! 

less talk para less mistake my friend...

we are still very much friends, inaaya nga niya ako ng outcall last WEDNESDAY night which I declined kasi wala akong funds at that time...hahaha

but there's this new lady na mukhang okay and I will see where this will lead...

thanks bro!

[Tipreth]

1 minute ago, handsomebob said:

less talk para less mistake my friend...

we are still very much friends, inaaya nga niya ako ng outcall last WEDNESDAY night which I declined kasi wala akong funds at that time...hahaha

but there's this new lady na mukhang okay and I will see where this will lead...

thanks bro!

hope this new lady brother will give you happiness too! enjoy the ride 

[Tipreth]

7 hours ago, plug said:

Eto yung mga kwento kung saan si thera nag babanggit ng bf/partner. Malamang nag papa presyo lang o gusto niya na balikan mo siya for another fee.

Sa Ameca hindi naman kasi ako nagpapa masahe so understood na ni thera na diretsong ES na. With only the towel covering my private part nag hubad naman siya naiwan na lang yung two piece bikini. So I asked her kung payag siyang parehas kaming hubot hubad then body action and touching pero walang fingering and penetration or ATW. Ang sagot faithful daw siya sa bf niya kaya HJ lang ang ES habang titignan ko na lang siya wearing the bikini. Nakipagnegotiate ako pero di daw pwede then nagpaalam at ikinuha ako ng tubig sa baso. Pagbalik inabutan ko ng 1k at nagpaalam na ako. Biglang bwelta na kunin ko raw number niya para sa susunod baka pumayag siya nangulit pa. Hindi ko na inulitan. Siya yung ang bikini ay camouflaged with sexy body na may pagka dark na morena. 

Sa Kuusamo Pasong Tamo inalok ko si thera ng ATW. Kasagot sagot ayaw daw niya kasi baka mabisto daw ng bf niya na dahil lumuwag ang pussy niya. So nag paalam na lang ako sabay abot ng 1k. Kasabi sabi balikan ko raw siya at papayag na raw siya. Hindi ko binalikan.

Sa Kuusamo sa Quezon Av nasabi ko kay thera na papunta sana ako sa Sylvanus for ATW pero gusto munang masubukan ang spakol. Nagtanong siya kung magkano ATW sa Sylvanus at sinagot ko ng 1500 pesos then pumayag siya. During the act nasabi ko"ang sikip mo pa pala". Ang sagot "oo naman wala naman akong boyfriend". This was my first time sa spakol in 2009 naka ATW agad. 

Sa ngayon wala ng thera na magsasabi na may bf/partner/asawa siya.

Si ano ba master C/V you know who I am referring to ay may BF/Asawa due to being a Terro? She's a tough nut to crack ayaw talaga bumigay sa all in

Edited December 31, 2022 by Tipreth

[knightdavion]

2 hours ago, Tipreth said:

Si ano ba master C/V you know who I am referring to ay may BF/Asawa due to being a Terro? She's a tough nut to crack ayaw talaga bumigay sa all in

Every thera have a price. The price just not enough make she want all in even she have bf/asawa she will do all in if the price good. Remember she is THERA. Even girl who not thera also have price that can make her to fo sex. Dont even said a thera dont want all in that just hyprocrite thera.

[knightdavion]

10 hours ago, plug said:

Eto yung mga kwento kung saan si thera nag babanggit ng bf/partner. Malamang nag papa presyo lang o gusto niya na balikan mo siya for another fee.

Sa Ameca hindi naman kasi ako nagpapa masahe so understood na ni thera na diretsong ES na. With only the towel covering my private part nag hubad naman siya naiwan na lang yung two piece bikini. So I asked her kung payag siyang parehas kaming hubot hubad then body action and touching pero walang fingering and penetration or ATW. Ang sagot faithful daw siya sa bf niya kaya HJ lang ang ES habang titignan ko na lang siya wearing the bikini. Nakipagnegotiate ako pero di daw pwede then nagpaalam at ikinuha ako ng tubig sa baso. Pagbalik inabutan ko ng 1k at nagpaalam na ako. Biglang bwelta na kunin ko raw number niya para sa susunod baka pumayag siya nangulit pa. Hindi ko na inulitan. Siya yung ang bikini ay camouflaged with sexy body na may pagka dark na morena. 

Sa Kuusamo Pasong Tamo inalok ko si thera ng ATW. Kasagot sagot ayaw daw niya kasi baka mabisto daw ng bf niya na dahil lumuwag ang pussy niya. So nag paalam na lang ako sabay abot ng 1k. Kasabi sabi balikan ko raw siya at papayag na raw siya. Hindi ko binalikan.

Sa Kuusamo sa Quezon Av nasabi ko kay thera na papunta sana ako sa Sylvanus for ATW pero gusto munang masubukan ang spakol. Nagtanong siya kung magkano ATW sa Sylvanus at sinagot ko ng 1500 pesos then pumayag siya. During the act nasabi ko"ang sikip mo pa pala". Ang sagot "oo naman wala naman akong boyfriend". This was my first time sa spakol in 2009 naka ATW agad. 

Sa ngayon wala ng thera na magsasabi na may bf/partner/asawa siya.

Now a days most of thera wont admit the have bf/partner/asawa cause they will use/fool the Guest to be fall for her and help her expense. I just dont understand sometimes they earn already so much but still need to hurt their guest for just using their guest for money. Matakaw 

[Noname01]

1 hour ago, knightdavion said:

Now a days most of thera wont admit the have bf/partner/asawa cause they will use/fool the Guest to be fall for her and help her expense. I just dont understand sometimes they earn already so much but still need to hurt their guest for just using their guest for money. Matakaw 

Very well said! Kaya as much as possible dont fall for any thera it will be complicated and it will hurt most of the time! If only I can turn back time hahaha hirap ma fall

[plug]

6 hours ago, Tipreth said:

Si ano ba master C/V you know who I am referring to ay may BF/Asawa due to being a Terro? She's a tough nut to crack ayaw talaga bumigay sa all in

Actually challenge uli sa akin yan. Naging busy lang kay regular dahil holidays kaya na set aside ko muna. Hindi man siya priority pero mukhang malakas ang hamon.

I think 2012 ata first time ko sa kanya then inulitan ko. Kahit alam mong mabait siya and will try to please you hanggang DATY, nip suck and FF lang walang ATW di ko alam kung payag siya sa BJ and DFK na di ko gawain. Dalagang dalaga pa siya noon. Ewan ko kung may nag succeed. Then nawala at ng bumalik balitang milf na but still wala pa rin atang naka score. Pero di na ako nag attempt being busy with another 18 year old thera.

Ang magandang response lang niya sa akin nang sinabi niya kay 18 year old thera "naku Mxxxxx ang bait ni sir" referring marahil sa tip. 

Kasi may mga thera at pangalawa siya sa nagsabi sa akin na pag nagpa ATW siya magiging prostitute na tawag sa kanya. We'll just have to respect their principle. Kaya palagay ko sa NTP spa siya nag duty just to be safe.

Let see this January 2023 kung marunong akong dumiskarte.

[Exec]

A thera loves you when:

*  you do not pay for sex or GFE with her

*  she refuses to accept money from you

*  she gets jealous including the time you have with your wife

*  she wants to be with you so frequently,  like daily

*  she has told you her dreams and her secrets even the darker ones

Edited December 31, 2022 by Exec

[Bibimbap]

meron na kayang nagkatuluyan na GM at thera? share nyo namn hahaha

[knightdavion]

11 hours ago, Bibimbap said:

meron na kayang nagkatuluyan na GM at thera? share nyo namn hahaha

Many ! At first GM get easy touched by thera story (dont know its real/make up story) then GM fell for it. Some GM dont kbow  thera JOB is give GFE to us GM so we paid for GFE. So they sweet they romance they kind all is we paid it for they do. They call you babe, mahal all is PAID. So if you take thera as wife i think you also paid for wife

[simonnag]

20 hours ago, knightdavion said:

Many ! At first GM get easy touched by thera story (dont know its real/make up story) then GM fell for it. Some GM dont kbow  thera JOB is give GFE to us GM so we paid for GFE. So they sweet they romance they kind all is we paid it for they do. They call you babe, mahal all is PAID. So if you take thera as wife i think you also paid for wife

It makes sense.

[simonnag]

On 12/1/2022 at 7:42 PM, handsomebob said:

anticipating the second part of this for sure!

 

Sorry for the delay. Holidays took over. Getting back to writing it.

[Exec]

22 hours ago, knightdavion said:

Many ! At first GM get easy touched by thera story (dont know its real/make up story) then GM fell for it. Some GM dont kbow  thera JOB is give GFE to us GM so we paid for GFE. So they sweet they romance they kind all is we paid it for they do. They call you babe, mahal all is PAID. So if you take thera as wife i think you also paid for wife

I doubt that a top-tier thera will settle to be just a "wife" when she is earning so much.

[Bibimbap]

23 hours ago, knightdavion said:

Many ! At first GM get easy touched by thera story (dont know its real/make up story) then GM fell for it. Some GM dont kbow  thera JOB is give GFE to us GM so we paid for GFE. So they sweet they romance they kind all is we paid it for they do. They call you babe, mahal all is PAID. So if you take thera as wife i think you also paid for wife

Yeah, it does make sense. So it's not like true love, more like a paid companion for life hahaha.

[courtesanhunter]

On 12/30/2022 at 10:03 AM, knightdavion said:

Wanna ask you here. If the woman (thera) introduce you to her mother and sisters how you guys see this?

possible sign siya ng sincerity ng babae. pero hindi pa rin kasi sure na batayan all the time. kung pamilyar kayo sa mga Filipina na naghahanap ng mga mapapangasawa na basta foreigner at mapera then hindi iyon naiiba sa loob ng industry. may mga babae at maging pamilya nila na ok lang sa custom ng pagpapakilala sa lalaki basta sa tingin nila na may mapapala sila mula doon sa tao. may mga klase ng tao na mas iniisip ang survival kesa seryosong pagmamahal.

[Auto Boy]

On 12/19/2022 at 12:52 AM, Exec said:

I am writing this not to seek advice but to share to those who might still be trying to find answers.

 

She’s a veteran, disciplined, single and endowed with top tier beauty both outside and inside -  good heart, above average height, slim, very fair complexion, pretty face, etc.  My thera GF lives less than ten-minute drive from me.  Her work discipline accumulated her a few properties which she is leasing and producing just enough passive income to support her parents and brothers.

 

I am in my early 50’s,  an executive of concurrent corporations.  Hindi ako guwapo pero hindi naman pangit -  just ordinary.  I’m in good shape because my work requires me to be physically active. My married life is blessed and happy.  I was loyal to my wife for many years and am not prolific in the flesh trade.

 

When I first availed my thera GF last Apr,  the previous one was decades ago when I worked overseas.  After much thought,  I decided to let loose of my feelings and our relationship progressed in recent months.  We see each other almost daily occasionally more than once.  The decision required considerable effort to find the answers to difficult questions.   The actual task of carrying out with the relationship came with heart aches as I rewired my mindset.

 

There are very few articles about relationships with sex workers.  This thread is a treasure and I wish I’ve found it earlier. So here is my share.

 

If a GM decides to pursue this kind of relationship,  then the GM must embrace the mindset that what the thera does is just work.  It is simply society’s prejudice that labels it dirty.  Minsan marangal ang tingin natin sa mga politiko pero alam natin na karamihan sa kanila ay kawatan.  When a GM needs to release,  the thera is there to offer the service for a fee within the bounds of her rules.  Even GFE can be purchased so don’t fool yourself that it is not fakery.

To avoid grief,  both the GM and thera must carefully delineate between work and personal.  In the West/NA,  personal starts when the hooker goes for a date without a fee.

 

Most of them started at the poorest of conditions.  The home of my GF was subject to squatter demolition in the long past.  When a thera gets to a relatively comfortable level,  she can be earning much more than an average manager in a corporation.  Theras know they are earning more than some of their clients.  Do not be surprised if you find a thera not wanting to be saved.  At this point,  she would have already acquired the trait of being independent.

 

Many theras do not know much about any other work likely because of limited education and lack of training.  My GF really tried and was swindled a few times -  eSabong, pautang, etc.  She has purchased another vacant lot and aims to build apartments there.  Now going to her dawn,  she has set herself to retire in just a few years with that little project as an end goal.  She’s independent and won’t accept money from me.  She knows it is within her means to earn it with her ‘work’.

 

Many of her friends did not succeed in the profession – got hooked with the wrong guy, drugs, hosto, casino, etc.  She’s relatively well off compared to her peers mainly due to her discipline and being a hard worker.  Be that as it may,  I concluded that even the better thera does not come to that high point without being severely scarred -  as in battle scars.

 

She has developed addiction to solitude.  She has loved several times and failed.  When we talk about relationships,  she would always brag – ‘been there,  done that’.  I am the amateur in those discussions.  She has a good heart and loved faithfully in the past.  Her last break up was in 2018,  she found out that her GM BF lied of being a married.  It took severe depression and two years with most nights in tears for her to move on.    I can still see telltale signs of that past.  She still has occasional bouts of depression.  There are also signs that she is now a man hater and perhaps I am the luckiest to have penetrated her barrier of distrust.

 

Why do I do this.  I loved my wife faithfully for two decades.  I thought that love was constant,  but the reality is the feelings fade in time.  When I crossed path with my thera GF,  I ‘really felt in love’ again and,  boy,  I was missing so huge.  This is like how it truly felt in my 20’s.  Love songs which I ignored for years has now acquired new meaning for me.  The sun shines differently now and in full colors.  It is grace.  It is priceless.  The least I can do is pay it back by truly loving her.

 

She is resigned to the notion she will grow old single and alone.  I always disagree with her.  She claims she has really prayed to God for me to arrive ‘kaya lang may sabit ang dumating’ -  i.e.,  married.  She is in no illusion that she’ll still find a mature and kind hearted bachelor,  thus her ‘will grow old single and alone’ disposition.  I promised to her that that will not happen because I intend to be there for her for life.  That is, unless she finds a better man than I am -  it will hurt bad but I will let go.  For now,  we try to enjoy each other. She is toying with the notion of bearing a child a few years from now.

Good read! Let us wait for the next chapter in the hope that will also be successful

[knightdavion]

On 1/2/2023 at 9:02 PM, Exec said:

I doubt that a top-tier thera will settle to be just a "wife" when she is earning so much.

I have hear 1 top thera also became wife one of the GM coz the GM super rich. Even top thera have a price.

[knightdavion]

4 hours ago, courtesanhunter said:

possible sign siya ng sincerity ng babae. pero hindi pa rin kasi sure na batayan all the time. kung pamilyar kayo sa mga Filipina na naghahanap ng mga mapapangasawa na basta foreigner at mapera then hindi iyon naiiba sa loob ng industry. may mga babae at maging pamilya nila na ok lang sa custom ng pagpapakilala sa lalaki basta sa tingin nila na may mapapala sila mula doon sa tao. may mga klase ng tao na mas iniisip ang survival kesa seryosong pagmamahal.

I agree for maybe for the benefit of her family. She just introduce for benefit. I think i experince it. Thank you man !

[knightdavion]

14 hours ago, DirkJohn said:

yes. thats how they operate or "hustle". or they would admit but can still ensnare you via other techniques. you and other guys. so she can have a bountiful farm of GM cows to milk. 

Sometimes they will admit it they have bf. BUT they will said "they are not happy with their BF, they no more love their bf anymore, their bf is cheating and bla bla bla" . Even the worst ask you guys to give him time to wait she will break with the BF. But in same time also ask for money. 😅😅

I hope GM will be more cautious with this kind of theras. Hope not be the cows that the milk suck by this theras who just use GM.

[johnlove]

On 12/28/2022 at 6:22 PM, hi_hello said:

i remember a few years back one time sa isang spa sa banawe, dumating ng sabay si thera at nung bf nya. akala ko hinatid lang sya. then after ung session namin ni thera, nakita ko ung lalaki pala ung boy dun sa spa at sya pa naglinis ng room namen... 

personally if ako sa situawsyon na eto, di ko masisikmura asawa/gf ko nagtratrabaho sa flesh industry at papatigilin ko sya or worse hihiwalayan kung hindi ko sya mapipigilan. pero iba iba sitwasyon naten. i guess ung benefit na nakukuha ng mga asawa/bf ng mga theras outweighs ung negative sa sitwasyon nila. or worse di naman nila mahal talaga si thera at ginagamit lang sila.  

 

Which spa is that, pwede paki pm?  AFAIK, all spa in Banawe are legit- walang es.  Madalas may nakasabay ako na female guest na nagpamasage.

[simonnag]

On 1/1/2023 at 11:38 PM, knightdavion said:

Many ! At first GM get easy touched by thera story (dont know its real/make up story) then GM fell for it. Some GM dont kbow  thera JOB is give GFE to us GM so we paid for GFE. So they sweet they romance they kind all is we paid it for they do. They call you babe, mahal all is PAID. So if you take thera as wife i think you also paid for wife

But how is that different from a case wherein you are marrying a social climber?

Perhaps a little wider perspective is warranted. There are a couple of facts that are valid (sometimes stated as truths by the uninitiated or the plain ignorant). The stereotype therapist is of one that came from poverty. Or circumstances that are less than ideal, financially. Its also fact that some of them are victims of abuse early on (i.e. raped, raped by a blood relative) that they did not have any options that are visible except the flesh trade. Let's face it. These circumstances desensitizes public shame when it comes to providing sexual services (from hand, to oral, to ATW = sexual services = prostitution. Being a moralist can be optional but at least be intellectually honest). It becomes fight or flight. It puts them in a state of mind wherein the physical act is detached from their person. In short, this declaration is in their minds "You pay for my body. You dont pay for me."

Now comes, the first line. How is that different from marrying a social climber? Remember that prostitution is not bounded by geography. You can be a prostitute, either on the street, or inside a boardroom. Our lens is only limited by the world we live in. 

If you are a rank and file who hardly can afford a 5k fee, prostitution for you are those from the dark alleys, filled with the scent of Sunsilk. You call them "pokpok" on the street. You call them Thera inside a cubicle.  

If you are the middle to affluent kind where in 5 to 15k are negligible expenses, prostitution for you will be inside MPs, Spas, Outcall services, low-level escorts (PSPs), KTV GROs, etc. The scent will be your favorite standard perfume, procured retail in small amounts. Plus Sunsilk, of course. The old term is brothel. That distinction though is now physical or virtual. 

For the ruling classes (ruling means not just money but influence. From financial to intellectual. They have class. If I have to explain, you dont have it. Dont be sad. Life is not fair), prostitution is any functional ambisiosa (or ambisioso) with the best teats or ass, who wants to go all the way to the top, and knows that a smart short cut is a nice fuck with anybody of the influential bosses. You think scholarships are for the lowly? Think again. For example, one of the owners of SM was notoriously known to send his flavor of the month to Ivy League schools, complete with accommodations in a house. Just be ready to fuck him if he comes around. Ben Chan sexually engages with Adamson basketball players before.  Boardrooms, and even the oval office, is not off-limits, physically, to sex with something in return. You would actually know the valuation of the fuck: Cheap if its done with money. Highest value is non monetary (Ivy League, VP position, BU Head, etc.)

Now that last category has trickled down to the lower part of the triangle as we are becoming more materialistic. In short, prostitution is no longer just an option by the tragically born. It's actually an option by anyone who wants more money. You can actually hear it from the girls nowadays (i.e. "practical lang ako", "Okay lang iyot, may 10k naman ako. mabango naman siya eh", etc.). That was the business model of SugarBabes, remember. So for those who have messianic complexes, think again. You are not saving them. 

Thus, complaining about being a cow or to be jaded about questions on authenticity of the GFE or PSE, will not benefit you at all. You are conflicted and its not the girl's fault. Remember, the girls also lose something. Their world becomes smaller and it might not be apparent at their younger years, but if you know of the therapists of the past (gives you clue of how old I am as a visitor of this dark world. I am an original OD even prior to it becoming EOD. My handle is a dead giveaway for those who were around at that time. If you know me, you should be married with two kids now. ), almost all of their stories are tragic. They don't age well. Frankly, if you are conflicted by it, the reason is simple: You are finding out what we, archaic veterans, know already. Sex is overrated. Relationships matter. 

All of that is prelude to my point with regards to falling for a therapist or PSPs or prostitutes in general (they are one and the same. Intellectual honesty, please.). It happens and to doubt the sincerity of those who do only means you are conflicted. Am I saying that the testimony of those who got duped are not true? On the contrary, no. I believe you. But the circumstances that will lead to an authentic relationship can only be achieved if you can discern the state of mind that is appropriate to the situation. And that applies to both parties. The problem with moral rejectionists is that they think that what you did in the past defines you. That's hogwash. What defines you is what you do next and the day after. And the years after. 

Anyway, my whole point is that having a happy ending (the love kind) is possible. The reason why it fails most of the time is the framing of the challenges. Giving or getting sex as a means of a transaction is just a matter of geography. It can happen on the street. It can be with your thera GF. Geez, it can be with your existing wife! 

On the other hand, love can also occur. But there has to be acceptance of the past which is often than not is the fact that all of us are broken and got screwed, physically or figuratively, at one point, and in certain places. There has to be a dream, a life,  that is outside of this underbelly, out of reach from any of its activities. There has to be a deliberate plan to totally leave this "place" permanently. That's the only way to go. Sounds simplistic. But its also profound. 

Again, Sex sells but its overrated. Relationships matter. True love has healing powers. It can truly heal what was previously broken, including bodies. Most of all, it heals the soul of, ultimately, two people. And that's all that matters. 

Good luck.

Edited January 4, 2023 by simonnag

[johnlove]

Just avail of her service more often, at huwag mo siya ibarat.