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Let me add. From her may bininyagan daw siya sa pakiusap ng may ari ng spa para sa pamangkin. Para mapagbigyan si owner pumayag daw siya for atw dahil virgin naman daw yung teenager. Then there was a story from a guest proudly telling other theras that he was able to have this thera for 20k overcoming her restrictions. Our first session was more of pakiramdaman so no es at all. Second session medyo maganda ata aking diskarte umabot sa naglinis siya at ako rin nilinis niya using her ph care. So, we're already starting to 'play' it unprotected. Ewan for anong reason when I was trying to insert it in napasabi siyang "sa susunod na lang kaya". I just have to agree and say ok at hindi ko na rin inalam ang dahilan. Gawain ko kasi basta hinahayaan ko lang kung saan aabot o papayag si thera. Kung mag initiate siya ng negotiation madali naman pagusapan. Hindi ko rin masabi kung magtutuloy kami sa unprotected sex on that aborted meeting. She was said to be a model for clothes/commercial and her pussy was one of the ideal one with perfect symmetry walang lawit basta almost straight thin line. From her talks, I assumed she came from may kakayanan na family with business that broke and she isolated herself kaya nagsasariling sikap. Actually, aside from that Chanel thing I have included a 5k gift check from H&M plus cash of 20k. Pwedeng sabihin she was a total temptation pero for me she was more of a challenge. Probably I was able to save a lot pero still naroon pa rin ang malaki kong panghihinayang.
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BBJ is the best option only if hindi mo type ang face ni girl o pangit sa paningin mo. Or 69. And after 69 or DATY at nag attempt kang humalik pero tumanggi si girl hwag mo nang ituloy. Kasi si girl mismo ayaw humalik sa iyong bibig na galing sa kanyang ari possible di malinis yung ibaba niya. Related to this, once nagkahabahaba ang leeg ni newbie sa pagiwas dahil gusto kong siyang halikan after kong kainin ang kanyang ibaba. Wala naman akong doubt kasi she was an 18 year old virgin pero marahil first time nga niya. Nobody can say or guarantee walang risk sa ganitong bisyo. Maybe a joke but could be the best advice.
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I know, you know also at tayong lahat alam naman natin nariyan ang mga theras para kumita ng pera. Para sa ibang theras the same work is the easiest way to earn money may kasama pang sex. Sabi nga ni mpa na dating pinipilahan "saan ka pa may sex na may pera pa". At halos silang lahat ay may financial needs so with the family pati na yung nagiisa para maka survive sa buhay. Yung naglayas ng bahay kahit said to be of well to do family nag thera to support herself. She has restrictions at inalok niya ako ng 250k down and 50k monthly for her to be all mine. Biro man o hindi pero before the offer pinasalat muna yung bukana ng kanyang ibaba to convince me. Wala naman akong ganoong pera so pinabayaan ko na lang. In the later part sa pangangailangan totally inalis ang restrictions. Dahil tayo ang lumapit sa kanila kaya dapat alam natin na anumang consequences are just part of it. Take it or leave it. Mayroon bang dapat sisihin?
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Marahil hindi lang one month and could be more pag tinamaan ka ng sakit sa babae. But at least pwede naman magsarili para ilabas habang nagpapagaling kung tulo rin lang. Pero pag mas malala or pang lifetime depende na marahil sa effect ng pagsisisi.
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Before pandemic nagkasundo kami to do it the next time we meet. I like her at tama lang to give her additional gift aside from cash. Punta ako ng Rustan's and bought a Chanel perfume na tugma sa kanya. On the day we're supposed to meet hindi sumipot at sabi ng recep supposedly sa kabilang spa mag duduty as required by the manager. Pero hindi na rin sumipot sa kabila at nalaman kong nagtalo sila ng manager dahil pinalilipat siya. Wala akong way to contact her kasi hindi ko ibinibigay ang aking number even I don't ask for her number for personal reason. Kahit si manager hindi cooperative to give her number to me dahil sa galit marahil. The perfume is still with me at ayaw ko rin ibigay kahit kanino as part of a souvenir sa laki ng panghihinayang ko.
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Napagawi ako ng Wilderness thread talagang kailangan ng awareness.
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In most cases may kasamang lakasan din ng loob sa ganitong gawain at bisyo. You tried even your very best to be clean pero paano si girl na hindi mo man ang kilala. There is always that risk. Kaya pag gumawa ka hwag ka nang magisip isip pa.
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May minsan gumawa ng record sa mp scene. 19 or 20 years old ata siya at halos araw araw pila balde sa kanya. May mga customers pa nga nagtatalo dahil naguunahan maka session si mpa. Ako rin nakihalo sa pila kaya nang nakuha ko I extended for another session agad. After three months ata biglang nawala kesyo magpapatuloy daw siya ng pagaaral. Maybe she thought she had enough para sa kayang career. That also trigger closing the thread ng mp dahil sa pagtatalo ng members sa kanyang pagkawala. Later, I learned at sure may maraming manliligaw siya at maaaring nagka relasyon din. But then after a few months biglang bumalik sa same mp. I think I was one of the many she invited on her return. Andoon pa rin naman ang crowd for her. Again, nawala muli siya and this time taon ang binilang. After that long absence she again appeared and was said na may anak na. Also, medyo malaki pinagbago ng itsura compared from her last appearance. Sabi nga ni visor mukhang namoblema. From her stories nakipagrelasyon siya at ginastusan naman at ibinigay ang kanyang mga needs even kasama siya sa mga travel. Siguro naman na hindi niya kailangan ng any enhancements o retoke. Naghiwalay sila with a child for her care. Kaya naman bumalik sa mp at nagpupursige siya sa kanyang bagong buhay. Hindi rin nagtagal tuluyan nawala siya hope for good. My opinion, minsan the best thing in this relation is for the person to encourage and teach makapagnegosyo si mpa/thera. Or the mpa/thera should have initiated a business. It will help her later to stand by her own while maintaining the relation. Spoiling or decorating her is just part of that he can afford. Dahil sa huli magkahiwalay man dahil usually it's more of a temporary relation lang at least nasa good to better condition si girl. And it would be a big thank you.
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Sa aking naging experience parang aware na ako or ready to accept it in case mayroon nga. Kasi I did live sa gf kong mpa na alam ko marami kaming bf niya. So sa pag gising sa umaga tingin agad ako sa loob ng aking brief. Then after two days ata nasalat ko na medyo basa not by urine but a kind of fluid. The next day sa pag ihi ko may kasama sa urine na nana sa inidoro. So I hurried to our family doctor in secrecy. At the same time kada naisoot kong brief tapon. Nang nanghinayang ako binalot ko ng tissue para walang contact sa brief in case may lumalabas hangang tuluyan gumaling. Pag return ko sa bisyo sosootan ko ng dalawang cd then ipenetrate half length lang kaya minsan nagtataka si girl bakit ayaw kong isagad or nabibitin daw siya. Kasi ayoko rin mag touch yung aming skin or hair even though clear shaved ako. Hindi naman ako basta humahalik or daty even pa bj. Talagang penetration lang. At least nairaraos ko. Minsan marahil tigang si girl nakiusap for full penetration. Nakatuwaan ko. Kaya sabi ko sootan ng dalawang cd then upuan niya but for ten pumps lang. Inupuan parang hindi pa ata umabot ng ten pumps nakaraos siya. Tigang nga. Later sabi "ngayon lang ako nakiusap ng sex sa tanang buhay ko". My last live sex was just early first quarter of 2026 in a spa kaya lang nag swear na ako hindi ko na gagawin sa binabayaran. Twice pa at halos two weeks ang pagitan. She is clean as I know and I have also cleared myself. Kaya never na ata mauulit.
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Falling For A Client - The Other Side Of The Coin.
plug replied to Alex_Corvis's topic in Matters of the heart
Acceptable naman ang remarks mo. Since 2019 nang inilabas ko siya sa spa to proceed with her studies then business hanggang ngayon. Nalagpasan namin ang pandemic with more help from me. Nasa akin din kung puputulin ko for one reason ayoko na sa kanya or kinasawaan ko na rin and maybe when the time comes na may pangyayari na hindi na acceptable sa akin. That's how I do it but I can say she is real or dahil malaki na utang na loob. Whichever we are still good even it is turning out like friends already. She knows na inilabas ko siya sa spa for my own benefit. Nasa kanya na yon how she will benefit from me. And I know she was once a thera in the spa. Normally kanya kanya lang sa pagdadala sa ganitong bisyo. -
Sex Or Love? What Makes Relationship Work?
plug replied to DJ Tiësto's topic in Matters of the heart
It should be love first kaya minsan kailangan munang idevelope. Pag narating na yon nasa gilid lang ang sex. You can have sex or just mere sex na hindi na kailangan may love. Although the word love or mentioning "I love you" during sex is just a part or pangpagana lang. -
Falling For A Client - The Other Side Of The Coin.
plug replied to Alex_Corvis's topic in Matters of the heart
Sabi ng iba mukha daw akong suplado kaya marahil nagaalanganin silang lumapit pati na rin mag drama for favor. Only once may therang parang pabirong nanghihiram ng 500 lang. Kahit may kaliitan hindi ko pinagbibigyan so what I did I just bought Starbucks beverage and gave it to her pang relief if it can be called that way. Once ko lang kinuha itong si thera napatiyempo lang nagkita kami sa nilipatang spa. And this thera is a big timer na may kataasan na rate. Inactive presently but of high demand kaya clients are waiting for her return. Pero minsan kusa akong nagaabot ng pera o drinks to maintain friendly with theras. Doon sa inilabas kong 18 year old newbie naman on the day nakita ko ang name niya sa line up ng kanyang former spa after a little more than two years, nag decide agad akong bitawan siya. Ang justification niya pag may vacant time lang daw from school para mapagaral naman yung dalawang nakakabatang kapatid. May ina pa naman sila kaya lang hiwalay or biyuda ata at tumanggap ng bagong asawa na driver ng pampasaherong jeep. And I think both have no intention of putting the children back to school. Pero you would see in fb feel proud yung ina dahil nasa shool yung anak. It was not acceptable to me kaya I gave the last allowance then gawa ako ng alibi that ended the relation. I have to be strict. May di maganda pang nangyari nang nabuntisan yung youngest niyang kapatid na minor pa ata. Parang hindi pa nakabuti putting her sister in school. Wala naman swerte swerte sa ganitong bisyo. Ang pansin ko lang be fair at hwag mapagsamantala and you'll have majority of theras being nice to you. Add na lang yung looking clean and decent dahil hindi ako gwapo plus looking can afford even in just simple clothes. Sa dami ng clients na nakakaharap ng mga theras marunong na rin mag tantiya o mag evaluate ng pagkatao ng clients. Yung ilan virgin theras I met kahit paano may nangyayari even sa first meet hindi palagay ko sa swerte kundi dahil yung sa akin will not inflict damage to theirs. May kaliitan kasi kaya tolerable at napapagbigyan. And presently, I am still in relation with a thera pang libangan ko pa rin. She's the second one na inilabas ko sa spa siyempre palaging nakasunod yung financial. She has her own second business kasi yung una nasara noong pandemic. Hindi naman ganoon siyang kaganda but she's 5-4 and was a former mgt and advertised as a car show model na hindi naman tutoo. Marahil nag fall na rin siya sa akin. It's better for me kasi wala na yung risk of getting others. Pag sa ganitong bisyo aways put yourself on the safe and proper place. -
Falling For A Client - The Other Side Of The Coin.
plug replied to Alex_Corvis's topic in Matters of the heart
Maaaring maayos at 'magaling' si girl. Marahil kaya niyang lutasin kung ano man problema by her own will at ayaw niyang tumanaw ng utang na loob. Pwede rin naisip niya na baka sa huli hanapan siya ng kapalit at away lang ang pupuntahan sakaling tumanggi siya. Nakapag magandang loob din naman ako sa isang elusive na thera dahil sa restrictions kaya considered kong big challenge. Nakatatlo ata akong kuha sa kanya ng walang nangyayari dahil I was trying to have her in my own liking. Hanggang na raid ang spakol kasama siya sa na detained. Nagka trauma so she decided to return to her work in Japan. The same spakol reopened and we met. Nasabi niya ang kanyang plano at may schedule na siya ng pag alis papuntang Japan. Mag duty raw siya ng ilan araw lang para pang baon then mag resign. Nag offer ako ng financial in exchange hindi siya mag duty para mag prepare na lang for her travel ng walang kapalit. I consider it my final goodbye and good luck. Nahihiya daw siya. What she did was to set a date for us to meet at siyempre ibibigay niya ang aking gustong mangyari. Hiniram ang aking cp, went to the restroom and took a pic of her pussy to show na siryoso siya. In her last four days ata na duty nag text sa akin to confirm kung makikipagkita ako sa kanya. Nagsinungaling ako ng dahilan kaya hindi natuloy ang meet. I have decided na kalimutan ko na lang siya tutal aalis na rin lang. She resigned at nawalan na rin kami ng communication kung natuloy siya ng Japan. The amount I want to give her was 50k pero kung nag meet kami for a session I will only give her 20k na may dagdag. Unprotected sex yan as she knew I was hoping for. Nawala man siya, napapatingin na lang ako sa aking cp with the pic on it. In another spa naglabas ako ng 18-year-old na newbie. Balik siya sa school with my financial assistance. After a little more than 2 years binitawan ko for my own personal reason. She was a virgin when I had her pero di ko kinuha ang kanyang virginity. Marahil I was too considerate or nakonsiyensya. Bali what I did to her were romance, daty and partial penetration or sliding in the y. I felt satisfied and enough. After years, I checked her fb at dalaga pa rin na may decent na trabaho somewhere in the north. Di ko lang masabi kung virgin pa. -
Falling For A Client - The Other Side Of The Coin.
plug replied to Alex_Corvis's topic in Matters of the heart
Although this thread is falling for a client, most posts and comments are discouraging clients to fall or to love theras. Hindi karamihan ang therang nagpopost dahil maaaring hindi totoong nagmamahal si thera kay client. Even those who say hindi nagpapabayad si thera as maybe proof na mahal siya ni thera ay hindi rin tutoo. Kaya hindi nagpapabayad kasi sa iyo niya gustong makaraos at kaya naman niyang singilin minsan mas malaki pa sa client na may gusto sa kanya. Before pandemic nagandahan ako kay mgt at siyempre may gusto akong magawa sa kanya. I was able to do it live on our second meeting without negotiation or prior arrangement. Nasabihan naman ako ng isang mtc member na may partner si thera na call boy at may isang anak. Parang kinabahan ako at baka may nakuha akong sakit. So, hindi ko na inulitan. Nang nagsubside ang pandemic this thera appeared in a nuru spa. Dahil attracted pa rin ako sa kanya kaya nag meet kami. Accordingly, being a graduate naghahanap siya ng legal na trabaho kaya pansamantala munang bumalik ng spa. Nasabi rin niya na nanganak pa siya with her second child during pandemic. Tutoong may partner nga siya. Isa pang nabanggit niya that she was told by the manager ng spa na ako raw ay nangungursunada ng ma lalive. Kaya napaisip siya pero pinagbigyan din niya si manager kaya nangyari yung aming nakaraan. I was thinking then na gusto rin niya o gusto niya ako dahil pumayag sa katulad ko. During our meeting nagkwentuhan na lang kami at walang nangyaring massage or es. Marahil gusto ko lang siyang makita at kasama na rin medyo napahiya pa ako. In our very first meeting nasabi niya na minsan in a month kumita daw siya ng 500000 pesos dahil ang mga clients basta nagaabot ng tip na malaking halaga. That was before pandemic at marahil ganoon siya ka attractive. -
Yung sistema ng pag entertain nila sa guest is you have to text Mira. Mag reply yan giving viber ni thera then thera will show you her menu to select from. Then book mo siya directly or sa Mira. Good luck.
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Sa Tokyo medyo mataas ang rates at yung bulagaan possible yun sa may katagalan na mga theras who were there before pandemic pa some termed as legendary. Unless you're not concerned sa kanilang ages. Most nuru techniques hindi naman nagkakalayo unless may kasamang slide sa y and known signature moves na wala na ata sa ngayon. Be aware na dahil gamit na gamit yung boobs ni nurupist most possible na laylay na so wala na yung scene ng water melon. Kaya more on sino type mo. Probably a better recommendation, you can start with mgt Desire. Prime Moon is quite new at less info on the theras kaya pwedeng magbakaskali unless you take those known coming from other spas. A wider selection is in Kyoto kung gusto mong mag travel although most photos same as other spas were edited. Take the mgts. Sa fr thread there were more frs posted on theras of Kyoto.
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May mpa or thera minsan nagte take risk for live dahil na rin sa pera but in most cases they evaluate the guest for hygiene plus money. Kadalasan sinusubukan nila yung tingin nila baguhan o first timer assumed by them to be fresh and clean. Sa kanila naman kasi bahala yung management. Minsan baka makitaan ka pa ng weakness gaya ng matagal kang makaraos with cd atw. Sabihan ka na dapat may regular ka hinting maging customer/regular ka at pwede live. Yung lakasan ng loob parang tirang bahala na. For someone who had std before may takot na din but quite hard to discipline and the "thrill" if you may call it is a challenge. Best to make a good "evaluation" on the provider. At least may basis ka if you are really into it or doing it live. Just last week may inulitan akong thera just live and it was our second time. It should have been our third pero hindi counted yung una kasi hanggang kalahati lang ang naipasok dahil sa doubt. Now, I have decided na tama na at di ko na uulitan. Although I still have two more incall theras and one outcall na bumalik this 2026 para ulitan, firm ako not to do it anymore with them. I know they still have that trust on me aside from the money they will get pero my thinking kung nairaos ko dati ng walang masamang resulta bakit mag risk pa uli. Reading this thread has influenced me. Also, I still prefer to have my only "regular" safe for being my responsibility. Ang parang mahirap tanggapin kung sa bj ka pa nakakuha. Palagay ko mas mabuti talaga maging duwag sa ganitong bisyo. Kaya following my new policy nag bakasakali muna ako sa spakol sa Makati. Strict sila sa standard es pero parang may temptation na pwedeng mapalayo. I just settled for the standard.
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Minsan mabuti yung alam mo kung sino nag ooffer ng raw even creampie para iwasan. Pero may pagkakataon din na nagkakatuluyan kayo ni provider aksidente o sadya then at the end nagpapadagdag si provider ng tip dahil live. This only show na tiwala si provider at alam niyang can afford kang ibigay yung dagdag o marahil kusa mo na lang abutan ng bigger tip.
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Done "smoothly" at sulit sa kwarto.
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I'll meet my "regular" this week and I plan to get a hotel room for longer period. Pagkatapos ihatid ko siyang makauwi then I'll book an outcall thera para hindi sayang ang room.
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Subukan mong tanungin si thera or mpa siguradong convincing ang isasagot pero nasa iyo na para mag interpret. Parang unethical din naman tanungin at baka ma challenge. There are theras dahil malaki ang kita or too concern sa "cleanliness" kaya may sariling doctor. Just remember palaging may risk sa bisyong ito. Before nga may guest may dalang test result of himself para maconvince si thera for live sex. May pumapatol aside from his 10k tip. This guest believed theras in spas are clean.
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Among the Nuat Thai spas along Ortigas Ave, alin ang medyo bata say below 25 ang theras? Looking for a good and clean massage from nuat thai after a tennis game sa Cainta. Thanks.
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Basta gumalaw ka ng sex provider may risk. Yung libog mo sinasamahan na lang ng lakas ng loob dahil gusto mo si girl. Kaya nga later nagpapa test para ma confirm kung may nakuhang sakit. Marahil better is to observe the lesser risk like evaluating how she keeps herself clean, may restrictions o kaya yung lesser body count. So, first it's more on selecting the provider. Theras of MTC spas baka ma consider of lesser risk compared sa freelancer/walkers even sa mps. Baka nga lesser pa ang risk sa theras of incall spas kasi confine sila sa place and normally paikot ikot lang yung guests. So, hindi exposed to a wider community.
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Pwede ata din mangyari yan kung tuloy ka pa rin bumabayo while umuurong na ang ari mo dahil nag cum na so ang tendency hihiwalay sa cd at the same time itinutulak ng ari mo yung cd palalim. So most likely live na, na di mo napapansin dahil napapasarap ka as well si girl. In another instance, habang nagka cum ka at bumabayo then habang umuurong ang ari mo at medyo kumakapit naman yung ari ni girl may tendency na tumigas muli tuloy ka sa second cum na di pansin ni girl dahil nasasarapan siya. At least nakadalawa ka with just a cd while si girl will be all smile later.
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Palagi naman may available cd si girl ng mga mps yun nga lang baka mapatiyempo hindi tugma ang sukat. Pwedeng maging hindi fully covered ang ari mo at mapaisip ka. Mas mabuti have at least one that fits yours in your wallet. May thera nga minsan ang isosoot sa iyo dots condom marahil yun ang trip niya para maging iskandalosa.
