Edmund Dantes Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 you 2 should read this article by the examiner about what Larry Merchant said about a potential fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao. lots of people keep saying that mayweather's afraid of pacquiao. some are saying its because of drug testing issues, fight profit splits, promoter disputes etc... now i sought out a non-biased opinion from a very credible analyst in the form of Larry Merchant because i think if anyone has a right to say his opinion about the 2 boxers it would be him. hindi siya kampi kahit kanino kahit amerikano siya tulad ni mayweather. at very credible ang kanyang opinion at balanced. he is also considered "the greatest television boxing analyst of all time" by ESPN Boxing analyst Dan Rafael. so sa tingin ko wala naman siguro magrereklamo kung may sinabi siyang negative tungkol kay mayweather at kay pacquiao. just in case may gustong mag challenge sa credibility ni larry. panoorin niyo sa youtube yung interview niya kay mayweather pagkatapos matalo ni mayweather si victor ortiz. so walang pinapaboran si merchant sa 2. .Larry Merchant on Mayweather Pacquiao fight medyo luma na yung article from 2012 pa pero ito lang yung article na nakita ko regarding sa opinion ni merchant kung maglalaban si pacquiao at mayweather. bigay niyo na lang opinion niyo pagkatapos. Hmmm well para sakin, marami naman syang valid point na naraise. I agree na alam ni Mayweather kaya nya talunin si Pacquiao. Lahat naman ng boxingero, undefeated man o hindi, ayaw matalo. Natural naman yun. Pero skill wise I dont think takot si Floyd kay Manny. Its just the business aspect and Floyd's ego ang dahilan kung bakit hindi natutuloy laban dito. I am not saying Floyd is not at fault for the fight not happening. But to be fair, may mga maling decision din naman kampo ni Manny kung bakit hindi natutuloy laban na ito. Kung talagang seryoso si Manny na gusto nya itong laban na ito, at least man lang sabihan nya promoter nya na sya ang mas masusunod at huwag nya hayaan promoter nya na lang lagi magmando sa negosasyon. A lot of people here wanna play boxing expert, pero ayaw naman pagusapan kung pano yung match-up ng dalawang ito skill-wise. Kung tingin nyo takot si Floyd kay Manny, ano dapat nya katakutan sa kanya? Speed? Sa totoo lang mas maganda ang handspeed ni Mayweather kesa kay Manny. Mas maganda pa magtiming. Higit pa dun, matindi reflexes ni Floyd kaya hirap lahat ng kalaban nya na patamaan sya. Kaya nga, kung talagang alam nyo sinasabi nyo mga parekoy, sabihin nyo na lang kung ano magagawa ni Manny sa Ring para talunin si Floyd. Aminin na kasi natin, bakit ba tayo nanonood ng boxing? Dahil lang naman kay Pacquiao di ba? Sige nga, bebenta ba ang mga PPV fights ng showtime at HBO sa pinas kung hindi naman si Pacquiao ang lumalaban? We all wanna hate on Floyd because of his Villain persona on and off the ring. Pero paki ba natin dun? Pagsabak naman sa ring, hindi naman kung sino ang mas may ginintuang puso ang mananalo kundi yung mas magaling sa larong ito. It is what it is. Ang totoong buhay hindi naman gaya ng mga pelikula ni Rudy Bong at Philip, na kung saan lagi mananalo bida. Pero bago si Floyd, I am interested on seeing how well Manny would do against Marquez should a 5th fight happen. Marquez is just a f#&king beast right now! Not only is he a master counter puncher, but he has grown much stronger in welterweight. I did expect him to school alvarado, but he did more than that. He was really hurting a much bigger and younger opponent. If this fight will happen, not only will Marquez try to box manny, he is gonna hurt him. He knows he can. Manny on the other hand, medyo bumagal na at naging mas maingat na. Plus ewan ko kung singlakas pa sya ng dati. Quote Link to comment
p4tr1ck Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 I just watch a pacquiao-bradley 2 couple of weeks ago,i notice pacquiao punching power has become less,he also missed a lot of punches,took a lot of punch in the head too.. If he was to face either marquez or mayweather hes gonna get knock out again. I dont know why manny has a habit of positioning himself open for overhand right or a overhandhook.. i just hope he doesnt face both of this guy.. I think he needs to retire before he gets some serious damage facing this fighters.. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 I just watch a pacquiao-bradley 2 couple of weeks ago,i notice pacquiao punching power has become less,he also missed a lot of punches,took a lot of punch in the head too.. If he was to face either marquez or mayweather hes gonna get knock out again. I dont know why manny has a habit of positioning himself open for overhand right or a overhandhook.. i just hope he doesnt face both of this guy.. I think he needs to retire before he gets some serious damage facing this fighters.. Finally! A post that makes sense. Ganito dapat kasi ang pagusapan. Skill against skill lang. If you guys are so sure that Floyd is scared of Pacquiao, then provide the reason why he really should be. Anong dapat nya katakutan kay Pacquiao? What does Pacquiao have that gives him a good chance of beating Floyd? Don't even start with speed, because if you do not see that Floyd has faster handspeed and reflexes, then you are simply being a pactard. One even argued that every fighter has a 50/50 chance of beating Floyd . So what makes Manny then so special to the other 46 who tried but failed? Duh! Yeah I agree, Pacquiao is very hittable. He can't fight moving back. If Bradley had any KO power, he would have been seriously hurt in that fight. Marquez will KO him again unless we see any improvement in Pacquiaos game. Not only is Marquez a master counter puncher, he has been opting now to finish his fights via KO. A lot of pacquiao fanatics here wanna play boxing expert, hindi naman nanonood ng boxing kung di si Pacquiao lumalaban Quote Link to comment
ak47 Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 Eto nanaman tayo, para lang magmukhang marunong magsasalita ng mg KO punch, fast footwork at blidning speed. Again skill set ang pinaguusapan dito, hindi lang basta athleticism. Kahit siguro sinong lasing sa kanto na nakapanood ng laban ni Pacquiao yan din ang sasabihin. Pwede ko din itanong sayo, sino na ba sa nakalaban ni Manny ang singtalino ni Floyd sa ring? At yang mga pinagsasasabi mo, umubra ba yan kay Marquez? Hindi di ba? Ni isang convincing na panalo wala sya, at pinatulog pa sya ng mas maliit at mas mabagal na si Marquez. Kahit nga si Bradley, kayang kaya din sabayan foot speed na sinasabi mo. Yan ang problema ni Manny ever since. Madali syang tamaan. Papasok sya sa loob, matatamaan sya ng counter, tapos pag napaatras ng konti, wala na, hindi na alam gagawin. Pano pa kaya kung si Floyd na alam natin mas magaling na counterpuncher ngayon. Kung hindi mo maapreciate fighting stance ni Floyd, ay wala, manood ka na lang ng sabong siguro. Kung tingin mo hindi kaya ni Floyd ang volume punchers, panoorin mo laban nya kay Castillo. Ang depensa nya hindi lang basta basta takip ng mukha. May kasamang ilag din at padaplis ng suntok ng kalaban. Bale nakadikit dapat yung baba sa balikat, yung kaliwa nakatakip sa ulo, tapos yung isa sa may bewang. Pag sumuntok kalaban dinadaan lang sa pihit ng baywang at braso para kung di man mailagan yung suntok dumaplis man lang. Yan ang trade mark ni Floyd. Kaya kahit sukol na sya sa lubid at isang dosenang suntok ang ginagawa ng kalaban, hindi pa din sya matamaan ng basta basta. Walang mangyayari sayo kung puros si Chino Trinidad lang pinapakingan mo. Wala namang alam yun kasi basketball commentator sya. Pakingan mo mga analysis ng mga totoong trainers. Kaya tuloy pati betting odds sa larong ito gusto mo magimbento ng sarili mo Agree panoorin mo Laban Nya Kay Castillo nung 2002 at malalaman mo Kung bakit ayaw na Nya labanan ang isang volume puncher. Kung di lang business decision nangyari may isa na sanang talo si Floyd. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted May 26, 2014 Share Posted May 26, 2014 Agree panoorin mo Laban Nya Kay Castillo nung 2002 at malalaman mo Kung bakit ayaw na Nya labanan ang isang volume puncher. Kung di lang business decision nangyari may isa na sanang talo si Floyd. I saw that fight. The fouls that incurred in that fight was really a factor why it was so close. Nonetheless, Floyd did redeem himself sa rematch. Besides di lang naman si Castillo ang magaling na volume puncher na nakalaban ni Floyd. Mahusay talaga magpromote ng laban si Floyd. Kahit asar sa kanya marami, mabenta pa din sya kahit sino ang kalaban. Sabi nya nga, you either pay to see him win or lose either way he gets paid. I really dont think matatalo sya ni Manny, lalo pa ngayon na mas mabagal na sya tsaka nawala na din yung reflexes na pinakita nya kay Hatton at Dela Hoya. Si Sugar Ray Leonard ang tingin kong makakatalo kay Floyd kung sana nasa fighting prime pa sya ngayon. Think of him as the offensive counterpart of Floyd. Very intelligent, great footwork, outstanding reflexes, at magaling din ang boxing skills Quote Link to comment
Bambagadidow Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I really hope this fight materializes.. Just read that a promoter from Dubai is serious in staging this mega fight in his hometown..sana mapilit niya si mayweather.. Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I really hope this fight materializes.. Just read that a promoter from Dubai is serious in staging this mega fight in his hometown..sana mapilit niya si mayweather.. hanggat buhay si ARUM at bata nya si Pacman hindi lalaban si FLOYDING itaga nyo sa etits at yabols hahaha Quote Link to comment
RickyOne Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Pag natuloy laban nila manonood ako ng live Quote Link to comment
WhitofKnight Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Cant see this happening hope it does but there is always too many reasons they wont Quote Link to comment
Vazh93 Posted June 6, 2014 Share Posted June 6, 2014 Malabo pero sobrang ganda kung mangyayari, Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 cnong nagsabing takot si FLOYDING kay Pacman wag kyong ganyan! itaga nyo sa etits at yagbols wla syang kinatatakutan at iniiwasan Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 A lot of people here wanna play boxing experts, hindi naman masagot sagot ang isang napaka elemental na tanong. PAPANO TATALUNIN NI MANNY SI SHOULDER ROLL?? Hangang butangero speech lang naman ang kaya sabihin. Kesyo takot, kesyo gayweather, blah blah blah. Pero hindi naman masabi kung ano sa skill set ni Manny ang dapat katakutan talaga. Lahat nagsasabi takot si Floyd kay Sugar Shane kaya ayaw labanan. Nung sya naman ang pumalit kay Pacquiao after umayaw idol nyo sa drug testing at natalo, sabi matanda na daw, kesyo hiningal daw kasi. Pero nung si Pacquiao naman nilabanan sunod wala naman kayong naging reklamo na ganyan. Aminin man natin o hindi, ang style ni manny effective sa mga kalaban na mas pasugod ang laro. Pero kung precission boxer na ang kalaban lalo na pag counter puncher, talagang hirap si Manny. Not one time nanalo sya convincingly kay Marquez, kaya paulit ulit lang ang rematch. Speaking of Marquez, ang galing ng improvement nya. Bukod sa pagiging counterpunching master, he has really also grown into the weight pumelling and dropping guys much bigger than him. I expected him to box a much younger and bigger Alvarado, but not only did he school him, he really beat him up with bad intentions. Ngayon, anong improvement ba nakita natin kay Pacquiao bukod sa mas naging maingat lang sya? Buti na lang walang KO power masyado si Bradley, at kung nagkataon, tumba nanaman sya nung napuruhan sya sa panga. Yan ang problema ever since ni Pacquiao. Nahuhuli lagi pag sumusugod sa kalaban na marunong magcounter. Pag napaatras na, natataranta sya at di na alam gagawin. Kalimutan nyo kasi na kontrabida lagi si Floyd at mabunganga. Iaddress natin yung skill set nya. Di hamak na mas maganda handspeed ni Floyd, at mahirap basagin ang depensa. Kahit yung stance nya sa ring, ang hirap patamaan. Hindi KO artist si Floyd, pero mautak talaga sa ring. Siguro tignan muna natin kung matatalo na finally ni Pacquiao si Marquez without any controversy. Lets see if at his age he can still adjust his game. Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) wanna be specialist at experts pero ano ano ba ginawa mung pasikot sikot 1. skill set - wala nito si PACMAN para makatalo si FLOYDING2. strategy - wala din nito si PACMAN para makatalo kay FLOYDING3. ranking - talunan nga nman ang mga tinalo ni PACMAN4. stadium - wlang kwenta ang 30M additional income, pero d masagot sino mag guarantee ng 40M kay FLOYDING... at ang the best PPV kinuha ang totoong revenue! LOL5. business nego - wla nga nman s nego table... pero cno nga ba boss ni FLOYDING... hindi si Ellerbe, Schaefer at Dela HOYA... so sino??? wlang pinaasa, wlang iniiwasan at wlang kinatatakutan... khit maging 60-0 pa yan... sasabihin ng mga Boxing Greats nku isa yang bahag ang buntot! Edited June 9, 2014 by darksoulriver Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted June 9, 2014 Share Posted June 9, 2014 wanna be specialist at experts pero ano ano ba ginawa mung pasikot sikot 1. skill set - wala nito si PACMAN para makatalo si FLOYDING2. strategy - wala din nito si PACMAN para makatalo kay FLOYDING3. ranking - talunan nga nman ang mga tinalo ni PACMAN4. stadium - wlang kwenta ang 30M additional income, pero d masagot sino mag guarantee ng 40M kay FLOYDING... at ang the best PPV kinuha ang totoong revenue! LOL5. business nego - wla nga nman s nego table... pero cno nga ba boss ni FLOYDING... hindi si Ellerbe, Schaefer at Dela HOYA... so sino??? wlang pinaasa, wlang iniiwasan at wlang kinatatakutan... khit maging 60-0 pa yan... sasabihin ng mga Boxing Greats nku isa yang bahag ang buntot! Eto nanaman tayo, daanin na lang sa pagiging kupal sa keyboard kasi wala ng maisagot. Hindi hahaba etits mo nyan parekoy. Nagmumukha ka lang maangas magsalita dahil nasa internet ka. Wala akong sinabi na walang skillset, walang strategy, at talunan sa ranking si Pacquiao. Ang simple lang kasi ng tanong hindi mo talaga masagot sagot. Ano sa skill set ni Pacquiao ang tatalo kay Floyd? Paliwanag mo ng maayos. Magbigay ka ng matinong fight analysis kasi. Pero dahil talagang di mo alam, dadaanin mo na lang sa pagiging butangero sa keyboard mo. Ako hindi competitive boxer. Cardio boxing lang most of the time ang ginagawa ko. Hindi rin ako fight promoter. Pero manonood ako ng boxing kahit di naman si Pacquiao ang lumalaban. Hindi rin ako gago na komo lang pinoy si Pacquiao sya na lang lagi kakampihan ko. Ikaw puros laban lang naman ni Pacquiao pinanonood mo, ni hindi mo nga sinundan Career ng mga nakalaban nya, pero gusto mo repasuhin ang buong sistema ng boxing. Pati betting odds nagiimbento ka ng sarili mo. Lahat ng boxer may 50-50 chance? Pfffffft! Hindi ka ba tinuruan pinagkaiba ng probability sa possibility? Quote Link to comment
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