Lipstick Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Mr. Agxo3! Just the person I was looking for! Would you know the name of this wine manufactured by a Filo in the U.S. of A that has been given good reviews and even served at ultra saucey resto in NYC? Heard his cases were sold out? Quote Link to comment
agxo3 Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 A growing season that is short, wet, and cold, or too cloudy is murder on grapes. It can produce grapes with very low sugar levels to make good wine. The fermentation of sugar is of course where the alcohol in wines come from. Alcohol gives that "mouth-feel" and the buzz; further it extracts the flavor from the skins and also helps in preserving the wine so that it will not unnecessarily spoil. Low sugar levels therefore would rescind these desirable characteristics. Sugar levels in grapes is called brix, and it is usually a 55% brix-to-alcohol conversion - meaning a grape harvested with a brix of 22% would generally produce a wine of 12% alcohol. What is unfortunate is that conditions that lead to low sugar also lead to low acid levels. Acid is experienced as tartness and is a balance against sugar.Now this is where some widescale fraud has been reported in the Burgundy region of France. Simultaneous chaptalization and acidification is reportedly widely practiced in the region, although it has been illegal in France since 1913.Chaptalization is the addition of sugar to grape must (crushed and unfermented grape skins and juice) to boost sugar levels. The law allows boosting by 2% but most Burgundian winemakers exceed this level, especially if there is a vintage at stake.In 1989, Bouchard Pere & Fils was convicted of this offense - their defense screamed that they were being singled out for doing something which everyone else was doing.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just goes to show what evil lurks in the hearts of men ALL OVER the globe! I loooove pinots and the wines from Burgundy remain the gold standard for these wines. But when things like this are exposed, it tends to cast doubt over ALL the product. That's why I now don't buy too many Burgundies and stick to the Oregon and Russian River pinots. Oh - and the Paso Robles pinots. Now THOSE are beginning to develop into some really fine, fine wines! Time for a road trip!! Quote Link to comment
masi Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Hey Masi! You might also look into an Italian sparkler. No, not the el cheapo Asti Spumante sweet cloying grape juice, but a nice light prosecco. Dry, of course, but with a nice hint of stone fruit, a burst of citrus (grapefruit, maybe?), and a nice looooong finish. Also much, much less expensive than a Dom Perignon, or a Cristal, or a Perrier Jouet, or a Veuve Cliquot, but quite enjoyable.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quite right there, agxo! I am venturing out of the box -- away from the "purist" and "monastic" ways. I never got to taste much Italian sparkling wines except the Asti whose bubbles felt like the size of marbles in the mouth. A bad jump start on the learning curve. On a side note.... I was rummaging through the pantry at my mom-in-laws house and found several unopened bottles of Hennesy Cognac, a Glenfiddich-Special Old Reserve, and 2-bottles of 1985 Perrier Jouet. Sad to say, the Hennesy and the Perrier-Jouet didnt make the trip. The corks overflowed. But the Glen is still in good shape. Bods, we have a single-malt!!!! Quote Link to comment
masi Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Henny Penny? Isn't that the red manok in some story? Uh oh, if I were your wife I would start getting jealous of the tempranillo! You haven't stopped raving about it! In fact because you have been raving so much eh.... pupunta ako ng Barcino at bumili ng isa! Soon! Somehow this is hard to picture .... is this possible at all???? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Henny Penny, Chicken Licken, Foxy Loxy, Turkey Lurkey.... yup...these were characters in pre-school books which i read for my daughter, which speaks much of the literature i perused. i would recommend that you buy the tempranillo (i finally got it right, bods!) at Barcino's. in fact get at least 2 so you could take 1 to our next WEB!!!! if you didn't hear our earlier request for cuban cigars hija, senorita...you heard this one!...if not, sayang maganda ka pa naman... :upside: :upside: drink faster than i could talk ... you better believe it!!! Quote Link to comment
masi Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Pareng Bods and Masi .... please tell me that hindi kayo nagkaka developan. Hehe.Hehe ayan na naman. Kung hindi kayo na i-in love sa isa't isa eh baka maganda yung bar wench sa Barcinos????? Who probably is the wife of the owner? Haha ok that's it, you boys should never drink together again! God only knows what you guys will spill when inebriated! Masi pare, since parang press con eh can you tell me if good looks run in your family since you are the second cousin of a friend? Bods pare, sasama na rin kita sa press con ..... eto medyo malalim ang tanong so take your time --- could you liken the important women in your life to the many good drops you have had? With matching description plus vintage and variety hah?! Game! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> yup! bods and i had developed a collective fondness for the beautiful, captivating and alluring in all forms, size, color, shape, taste.... :goatee: no bar wenches in Barcino's except maybe when bods and i start to wear skirts ...and start dancing the fandango and flamenco...hmmm, must be the fat and oil in those tapas more than the alcohol in the tempranillo and shiraz ... in reponse to your question in my presscon... hija, i need not reply to the obvious.... my cousin and i come from the same vine, but i must add, i have a better vintage... :boo: (bods, this reply is not OT nor would you think i'm drunk responding to this post!!!!) Quote Link to comment
masi Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Ok I think I deserve to receive an award for being the Monologue Queen! I have the lousiest timing ever! When everyone is here am often stuck somewhere in U.N. attending to my amba duties! And this sucks like cheap wine! Ha ha ha ha.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> oh!!! we have a diplomat on board... on behalf of the board, we would like to express our highest esteem for Her Royal Highness' gracious presence. by the time you read this post, i have done my share of monologues... Quote Link to comment
Lipstick Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Bods, we have a single-malt!!!!<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hephep! Did I hear single malt????? Henny Penny, Chicken Licken, Foxy Loxy, Turkey Lurkey.... yup...these were characters in pre-school books which i read for my daughter, which speaks much of the literature i perused. i would recommend that you buy the tempranillo (i finally got it right, bods!) at Barcino's. in fact get at least 2 so you could take 1 to our next WEB!!!! if you didn't hear our earlier request for cuban cigars hija, senorita...you heard this one!...if not, sayang maganda ka pa naman... :upside: :upside: drink faster than i could talk ... you better believe it!!! <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hahahaha well pare I have read the same books too twice over because of my two daughters! 2? Di naman kaya ako parang wine-aholic nyan? Waitamonumento.... parang am losing my hearing again. :upside: Sanay naman akong pangit tingin sa akin. AWARD!!!! ha ha ha Quote Link to comment
Lipstick Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 oh!!! we have a diplomat on board... and on behalf of the board, we would like to express our highest esteem for Her Royal Highness' gracious presence. by the time you read this post, i have done my share of monologues... <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Wahahahahahaha. HEH! And now you truly deserve an AWARD Senyorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
Lipstick Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 yup! bods and i had developed a collective fondness for the beautiful, captivating and alluring in all forms, size, color, shape, taste.... :goatee: no bar wenches in Barcino's except maybe when bods and i start to wear skirts ...and start dancing the fandango and flamenco...hmmm, must be the fat and oil in those tapas more than the alcohol in the tempranillo and shiraz ... in reponse to your question in my presscon... hija, i need not reply to the obvious.... my cousin and i come from the same vine, but i must add, i have a better vintage... :boo: (bods, this reply is not OT nor would you think i'm drunk responding to this post!!!!)<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeee don't make suot skirts!!! You boys might attract more men than I ever will! Maawa ka sa mga katulad ko!!! I have to agree SENYORrrrrrrr ..... you definitely have better vintage. Three cheers to vintaged men. Quote Link to comment
masi Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 Hephep! Did I hear single malt????? Hahahaha well pare I have read the same books too twice over because of my two daughters! 2? Di naman kaya ako parang wine-aholic nyan? Waitamonumento.... parang am losing my hearing again. :upside: Sanay naman akong pangit tingin sa akin. AWARD!!!! ha ha ha<{POST_SNAPBACK}> buenas dias, senorita!!! you're up and about early today... the 2 bottles of tempranillo are just right.. you can tell the lady that you are buying it for those 2 guys who drank the same the other night...i'm sure she'll remember us for consuming her stock and filling up the store with cigar smoke... not to mention, the cash register ringing. astig, talaga! it seems that your hearing won't budge... gee, i wonder what would? walang pangit sa mundo! I know coz, aside from wines and pens, I collect art and I see beauty in everything. Remember, we all come from the same vine :hypocritesmiley: (that was truly an award winning spiel!!!!! ) Quote Link to comment
Lipstick Posted July 9, 2005 Share Posted July 9, 2005 buenas dias, senorita!!! you're up and about early today... the 2 bottles of tempranillo are just right.. you can tell the lady that you are buying it for those 2 guys who drank the same the other night...i'm sure she'll remember us for consuming her stock and filling up the store with cigar smoke... not to mention, the cash register ringing. astig, talaga! it seems that your hearing won't budge... gee, i wonder what would? walang pangit sa mundo! I know coz, aside from wines and pens, I collect art and I see beauty in everything. Remember, we all come from the same vine :hypocritesmiley: (that was truly an award winning spiel!!!!! )<{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yup am up early for a Saturday! Am starting to pack..... lurd hilp mi dahil Queen of Overpacking ako! Maybe if you gifted me with some cottonbuds? Nyahahahahahaha Senyorrrrrrrrrrr you are learning fast from Bods and myself. Between the three of us eh we can really really form and award giving body. Promise when I attend a WEB eh we shall draft the list of nominees and categories! Am going to go have to search for an Opus One ..... have you seen one in Manila? I might get some luck finding one in Bangkok or the DFS. Just wanted to do something nice for my special constant date Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 oh yeah! the cigars...I brought a 5-pack Don Juan Urquijo Robusto Vintage Blend 1993 to the eb with my smoking paraphenlia, a Savinelli scissor cutter, and matches. DJU's are the premium cigars of our very own, Tabacalera, with the binder, filler and wrapper coming from Ecuador, Guatemala and Dominican Republic, not necessarily in that order and aged solera-style in a humidity and temperature controlled bodega for 10-years minimum. DJU was rated 89 by Cigar Aficionado. I gave bods the basic cigar smoking 101, a "bad" habit I started way back in 1995. Aside from the basic blend, i also told bods a cigar's basic parts, the butt (the open, thick portion of the cigar which is lit), the shoulder, the point where it tapers and the head or cap, or the sealed part. It started with "nosing" the cigar and capturing its flavors. The DJU is characteristically rich earthy, leather musk with a mild hint of cinnamon and cedar wood. Then we came to "cutting" the cap. The amount of cut rests on the smoker depending the on draw he/she prefers (yes, women smoke cigars, no one should get any crazy idea with this line :grr: ). There are basically 2 ways of opening the head either by cutting or punching. In cutting you can either use a pair of cigar scissors or a guillotine. Never bite it off ala, Clint "Go ahead punk make my day" Eastwood. A no-no. After the cigar has been cut (a non-sexist comment, i hasten to add), we proceeded to drawing the flavors of the unlit DJU. The initial experience would be a dry, spicy tangy sensation, on the lips and rich earthly leather musk, cinnamon and cedar as in the "nosing". The lighting, which is the pinnacle of the entire ceremony, using matches, not lighters as fumes of butane can contaminate such a natural product. A staccato of short draws while you rotate the cigar around the flame. Let the phosphorus ignite before touching the cigar to the flame. ... and the rest is history... I will let bods post his personal views on this experience. It was truly a captivating night, more than what bods and i could merge our thoughts on this thread. bods and i hold secrets which we vowed not to tell while sober... :upside: that's the end of this post, I may now take a few questions.... (bigla naging press conference) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> as I told you before, it was the capriccios (did I spell it right) from that wonderful Cypriot couple that I've had the pleasure of smoking so putting a thick robusto in my mouth took some getting used to. Also, as you've noticed, the flame died out maybe 4 or 5 times and I spilled cigar ash on my shirt a good 2 or 3 times Luckily nobody else was present as it would definitely have been embarassing. pare how come I can't recall you telling me that Cigar 101 - either that or I really did get drunk not to remember it this time It was a great experience with the cigar - that earthy musky flavor is something you can't get out of anything else, except wine of course...so the scissors were yours - I thought it was Barcino's and it just occurred to me - nadala mo ba pauwi yung cigars - o naiwan natin? I do look forward to the next cigar smoking session. You bring the cigars and I'll bring the matches, fair enough pare? Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 Wahahahahahahahahahaha. And another award for me! :boo: We really should come up with a list of awards to give out in this thread Pareng Bods and Masi. Parang Best Vintage MTC Member ..... Most Promising Grape Member ... Best Sour Grape Member ..... etc .... hahaha. This would be a good discussion when I finally get to attend a WEB! Why do I hear another award coming..... Lemme backread ..... my head has been filled with so much wine that it hasn't been able to think straight. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> hehehe I like that SourGrape Award....hmmm......Most Tannic Member....Tart Award ...Noble Rot Award....saka nga yung mga dati di ba? The Clueless Award, The Drunken Stupor Award Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 Hall of fame!!!!!!!! False advertising daw on your part I have been enchanted for 4nights in a row! Wot a superb batting average! Hehe. Trust you too have been enchanted this week aside from that night with the pixie dust casualty. :upside: Oh dear Ms. HBC, I am definitely NOT the First Lady of the Thread ... I am the bar wench and no more than that. You should've gone to the WEB and kept those two depraved men company ..... imagine ang tingin nila sa wine bottle eh babae na? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> it's Truth Well-Told, ok? it has also been an enchanting two nights in a row for me.... last night of which even went to extended innings - my Depravity Meter of which went up a notch or two Bakit nga ba walang ladies na sumasama sa mga WEB namin???? We are the epitome of two perfect gentlemen, except for those rare occasions when I spill cigar ash on my shirt and not be aware of it Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted July 9, 2005 Author Share Posted July 9, 2005 Si bods????? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> not me, ha!I am incapable of coming up with such a quote..... The best quotes I have ever come up with are - "Is this cigar done?" and "Hey, whadaya know - this wine has got legs!" Quote Link to comment
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