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[calvinzero]

Wala ako iboboto unless hindi nila tanggalin ung coach Dave Aguila.

Simple lang ang platform nya, back to old normal, you know why

Yan yung stand ko for over the year already.

 

I posted it here or I think in the other forums before, wag nilang gamitin ang vaccine sa kahit na anong bagay na makakahadlang sa human rights and dignity ng isang tao. May ibang restaurants na gumagawa nyan na lage favor ay purely vaccinated na napaka unscientific sa totoo lang.

 

 

[boyromantico]

1 hour ago, Asus19 said:

Curious din ako kung ano mailalatag nilang nagawa talaga ni BBM.

That information is pretty much available online. In the 15th Congress alone, he authored 34 bills and co-authored 17 more. One of them might be familiar to most, the Cybercrime Prevention Act.

Also, he was majorly responsible (when he was Governor) for the Windmill project in Burgos and Bangui towns in Ilocos Norte. That area now has 50% of its electricity requirements come from renewable sources. 

What stood out to me though was how he voted in the CJ Corona trial. He was one of only 3 Senators (along with Miriam and Joker) who voted against the majority in that sham of an impeachment. Noy2x was hell bent on removing CJ Corona for leading the Supreme Court to rule against the Hacienda Luisita valuation case and he even used the illegal DAP funds as bribe. The 3 (Bong2x, Miram, Joker) were the only Senators who did what was right in that instance and ever since, I have grown to respect him and not just focus on his family name.

FYI, I am a Sara supporter. But if our Agila sits out this election (which she already said she will), then Bong2x is the way better choice than Brief, Boxer, Panti and Lugaw. 

[GSM North]

1 hour ago, boyromantico said:

That information is pretty much available online. In the 15th Congress alone, he authored 34 bills and co-authored 17 more. One of them might be familiar to most, the Cybercrime Prevention Act.

Also, he was majorly responsible (when he was Governor) for the Windmill project in Burgos and Bangui towns in Ilocos Norte. That area now has 50% of its electricity requirements come from renewable sources. 

What stood out to me though was how he voted in the CJ Corona trial. He was one of only 3 Senators (along with Miriam and Joker) who voted against the majority in that sham of an impeachment. Noy2x was hell bent on removing CJ Corona for leading the Supreme Court to rule against the Hacienda Luisita valuation case and he even used the illegal DAP funds as bribe. The 3 (Bong2x, Miram, Joker) were the only Senators who did what was right in that instance and ever since, I have grown to respect him and not just focus on his family name.

FYI, I am a Sara supporter. But if our Agila sits out this election (which she already said she will), then Bong2x is the way better choice than Brief, Boxer, Panti and Lugaw. 

very well said po

[Yoda18]

18 hours ago, jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj said:

Leni Lang naman deserving talaga. With limited funds, napakarami nyang nagawa. Try visiting her fb page. You’ll see there lahat tutulungan niya. Di Tulad Di duterte, pharmally Ang tinulungan. Di Tulad ni marcos, maingay Lang pag kampanya na, wala naambag sa Senado, bobo kasi. Pacquiao naman kapit tuko. Domagoso ambisyoso. Lacson, balimbing. 
 

add ko na dito. Mga DDS AT pro-makoy, mga tabogo. Ayaw ng katotohanan. Mag Walang Silbi!

Oo nga sobrang talino nga ni Leni.

40 x 4 = 1600.    IDOL!

Edited October 7, 2021 by Yoda18

[plug]

Pinkpinas

[whiteboy]

On 10/4/2021 at 2:54 PM, JackieM said:

I personally know Jessie and Leni's financier who were their "Alaga" and favorite jueteng financiers before Atong Ang came into picture. I also know the drop off points of the payola. Another Senator who's also is very much into "papogi" effect is also being financed by the same guy. Fact is the of the Finacier's daughter is one of the active smugglers in Subic Bay Port and is protected by the nephew of this Senator who happens to hold a high position in the BOC. Clue the BOC Assistance Commissioner has been named in several BOC cases from the time of Erap and still in the commission despite several contriversies and scandals. He's an Ex Cadet who was expelled from the Academy way back in 1987. The financier is from the North Eastern Luzon. Got a chance to do a business meeting this Financier to discuss a bank Letter of Credit for his importation business but unfortunately the bank disapproved the loan because of the negative findings.

anong mga negosyo yan ng makabili ako ng stocks... haha

[Hotshot76]

Leni can do better as a president. I'll give her a chance. 

[zener]

Dear Leni,

Pahingi ng lugaw. Salamat. 

[csb_miley]

Everytime i talk to my dad about anything that im curious of, usually he answered all my qstions like a long essay. Ang dami nyang alam ablut everything. He graduated from ue, silent type very simple and brainy. 

If nsa hometown ako or evry meal time lahat ng convo nmin always about politics or mga topics na may sense lang dpt.  Pro my  qstion, super short lang ang sagot nya. 

[Bigshotbob32]

On 10/7/2021 at 2:52 AM, jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjj said:

Leni Lang naman deserving talaga. With limited funds, napakarami nyang nagawa. Try visiting her fb page. You’ll see there lahat tutulungan niya. Di Tulad Di duterte, pharmally Ang tinulungan. Di Tulad ni marcos, maingay Lang pag kampanya na, wala naambag sa Senado, bobo kasi. Pacquiao naman kapit tuko. Domagoso ambisyoso. Lacson, balimbing. 
 

add ko na dito. Mga DDS AT pro-makoy, mga tabogo. Ayaw ng katotohanan. Mag Walang Silbi!

Tanong ko lang. Damagoso ambisyoso? Si Leni hinde? Napilitan lang? Wala ka lang masabi kay Isko ambisyoso na lang? Mas matagal pa sa pulitika si Isko kesa kay Leni tapos si Leni qualified si Isko ambisyoso? Tsk tsk

[Bigshotbob32]

19 hours ago, calvinzero said:

Wala ako iboboto unless hindi nila tanggalin ung coach Dave Aguila.

Simple lang ang platform nya, back to old normal, you know why

Yan yung stand ko for over the year already.

 

I posted it here or I think in the other forums before, wag nilang gamitin ang vaccine sa kahit na anong bagay na makakahadlang sa human rights and dignity ng isang tao. May ibang restaurants na gumagawa nyan na lage favor ay purely vaccinated na napaka unscientific sa totoo lang.

 

 

Coach Dave talaga? Kala ko joke lang ung pagtakbo niya? 

[calvinzero]

5 hours ago, Bigshotbob32 said:

Coach Dave talaga? Kala ko joke lang ung pagtakbo niya? 

Nag file sya unless classified as nuisance, puro pro vaxx kase mga aspiring president eh

 

 

Edited October 8, 2021 by calvinzero

[Bigshotbob32]

6 minutes ago, calvinzero said:

Nag file sya unless classified as nuisance, puro pro vaxx kase mga aspiring president eh

 

 

Well. Wala naman bayad to file ng coc for president e. Gusto niya lang cguro malaman ilan supporters niya. Basta ako support lang sa LCIF niya. 

[PreventerWind]

On 10/7/2021 at 9:14 PM, Yoda18 said:

Oo nga sobrang talino nga ni Leni.

40 x 4 = 1600.    IDOL!

 

❌ FAKE NEWS: VP Leni said 4 x 40 = 1600 

✅ FACT: It was a spliced video wherein they removed the part where Leni mentioned the assumption that a small family consumes an average of 10 kilos per week. 4 weeks x 10 kilos x 40 pesos. 4 x 10 x 40 = 1600.

❌ FAKE NEWS: VP Leni said "I have three daughters and they’re all girls" 

✅ FACT: In a report of Nikko Dizon of Inquirer, this is what she actually said: '...They were all DADDY'S girls.'

https://verafiles.org/articles/vera-files-fact-check-netizens-revive-fake-quote-card-attemp

Nakakatawang Yoda yung name mo pero di mo ma-distinguish yung fact sa fake news. LOL!

[getsumei]

On 10/7/2021 at 5:24 PM, boyromantico said:

That information is pretty much available online. In the 15th Congress alone, he authored 34 bills and co-authored 17 more. One of them might be familiar to most, the Cybercrime Prevention Act.

Also, he was majorly responsible (when he was Governor) for the Windmill project in Burgos and Bangui towns in Ilocos Norte. That area now has 50% of its electricity requirements come from renewable sources. 

Wait, sorry. Medyo nagcoincide lang kasi I was talking to someone the other day about the Ilocos Norte Windmills plus other things found out from his personal website.

 

I found articles that are not exactly in-line with the Marcos narratives stating that the windmills are initially their idea. At best, the most I could credit to him would be his approval/signing for the go-ahead of the project for his region.

All I'm saying na he was lucky that he was in service during that time.

 

My findings:

There was an external study by NREL (National Renewable Energy Laboratory, US based) which provided a comprehensive map of locations within the Philippines that are feasible for good wind energy alternatives. Numerous locations where found - with Ilocos Norte being one of the best.

 

EDC (Energy Development Corp, Lopez owned) then sent their proposal to build the wind farms and got approvals from ERC/DOE (Energy Regulatory Commission/Dept of Energy) following the Renewable Energy Act 2008. Funding was provided by loans from various bank loans. The project was done with cooperation from other local and international companies

 

In summary, this project seems to be initiated and driven by a private company as a contractor, and given approval by the PH govt - articles I found regarding the project has no mention of any Marcos.

 

Don't mistake this a a bash of the project. I'm all for renewable energies. I'm just saying the narratives does not match. Something that I find... consistent.

 

Now since we are in the topic of his vision for renewable energy, I wanted to know if he had any bills/resolutions in line with it so I can better understand his vision. 

From his website, I found SRN 622 which was labeled as Energy Infrastructure System.

Thinking it was something related to the windmills, I checked the senate site for SRN 622. Only 1 entry was found syempre kasi I searched for the actual resolution number. But what I found as SRN 622 was this:

Authority of LGUs on PCSO’S Small Town Lottery Operations

Filed by Lacson. Ok...

 

That's just one example... I did find more pero finding these kind of mistakes on one's public portfolio as critical as this makes you wonder nalang e...

Brings back memories of his Oxford attainment.
 

edited:
Found that I looked under the wrong congress. 622 is verified as a his resolution for Energy Infrastructure System.

 

 

 

Sources:

https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy01osti/28903.pdf

https://www.power-technology.com/projects/burgos-wind-project-ilocos-norte/

https://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/project-documents/48325/48325-001-xarr-en.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20141109053707/http://www.interaksyon.com/business/64732/edc-starts-construction-of-burgos-wind-farm

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/companies/441491/erc-clears-edc-wind-farm-for-fit-incentives/story/

http://investvine.com/philippines-expands-wind-geothermal/

https://www.bongbongmarcos.com/legislative-accomplishments/

http://legacy.senate.gov.ph/lis/leg_sys.aspx?congress=18&type=resolution&p=1

http://legacy.senate.gov.ph/lis/leg_sys.aspx?congress=16&type=resolution&p=1

Edited October 9, 2021 by getsumei
to correct a mistake i had

[boyromantico]

On 10/9/2021 at 9:13 PM, getsumei said:

Wait, sorry. Medyo nagcoincide lang kasi I was talking to someone the other day about the Ilocos Norte Windmills plus other things found out from his personal website.

 

I found articles that are not exactly in-line with the Marcos narratives stating that the windmills are initially their idea. At best, the most I could credit to him would be his approval/signing for the go-ahead of the project for his region.

All I'm saying na he was lucky that he was in service during that time.

 

My findings:

There was an external study by NREL (National Renewable Energy Laboratory, US based) which provided a comprehensive map of locations within the Philippines that are feasible for good wind energy alternatives. Numerous locations where found - with Ilocos Norte being one of the best.

 

EDC (Energy Development Corp, Lopez owned) then sent their proposal to build the wind farms and got approvals from ERC/DOE (Energy Regulatory Commission/Dept of Energy) following the Renewable Energy Act 2008. Funding was provided by loans from various bank loans. The project was done with cooperation from other local and international companies

 

In summary, this project seems to be initiated and driven by a private company as a contractor, and given approval by the PH govt - articles I found regarding the project has no mention of any Marcos.

 

Don't mistake this a a bash of the project. I'm all for renewable energies. I'm just saying the narratives does not match. Something that I find... consistent.

 

Now since we are in the topic of his vision for renewable energy, I wanted to know if he had any bills/resolutions in line with it so I can better understand his vision. 

From his website, I found SRN 622 which was labeled as Energy Infrastructure System.

Thinking it was something related to the windmills, I checked the senate site for SRN 622. Only 1 entry was found syempre kasi I searched for the actual resolution number. But what I found as SRN 622 was this:

Authority of LGUs on PCSO’S Small Town Lottery Operations

Filed by Lacson. Ok...

 

That's just one example... I did find more pero finding these kind of mistakes on one's public portfolio as critical as this makes you wonder nalang e...

Brings back memories of his Oxford attainment.
 

edited:
Found that I looked under the wrong congress. 622 is verified as a his resolution for Energy Infrastructure System.

 

 

 

Sources:

https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy01osti/28903.pdf

https://www.power-technology.com/projects/burgos-wind-project-ilocos-norte/

https://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/project-documents/48325/48325-001-xarr-en.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20141109053707/http://www.interaksyon.com/business/64732/edc-starts-construction-of-burgos-wind-farm

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/companies/441491/erc-clears-edc-wind-farm-for-fit-incentives/story/

http://investvine.com/philippines-expands-wind-geothermal/

https://www.bongbongmarcos.com/legislative-accomplishments/

http://legacy.senate.gov.ph/lis/leg_sys.aspx?congress=18&type=resolution&p=1

http://legacy.senate.gov.ph/lis/leg_sys.aspx?congress=16&type=resolution&p=1

 

I don't think Bong2x said it was his idea. If you check the interviews he did years ago prior to this 2022 election brouhaha, he is on record saying he was approached by an Israeli company in 1998 (Yes, after the 1996 completion of the  external study by NREL, the National Renewable Energy Laboratory) about the possibility of putting up windmills in Ilocos. He initially did not consider it seriously because of the financials involved and the long term viability of the project. It was not until WTO began to issue carbon credits and a developer advised him that the plan to create a golf course in Bangui is not advisable due to the strong winds did they pivot and began to seriously assess the Windmill project. 

 

[boyromantico]

On 10/8/2021 at 11:31 PM, PreventerWind said:

 

❌ FAKE NEWS: VP Leni said 4 x 40 = 1600 

✅ FACT: It was a spliced video wherein they removed the part where Leni mentioned the assumption that a small family consumes an average of 10 kilos per week. 4 weeks x 10 kilos x 40 pesos. 4 x 10 x 40 = 1600.

❌ FAKE NEWS: VP Leni said "I have three daughters and they’re all girls" 

✅ FACT: In a report of Nikko Dizon of Inquirer, this is what she actually said: '...They were all DADDY'S girls.'

https://verafiles.org/articles/vera-files-fact-check-netizens-revive-fake-quote-card-attemp

Nakakatawang Yoda yung name mo pero di mo ma-distinguish yung fact sa fake news. LOL!

 

 Its not fake. She did actually said the 1600 computation.... By the way, Ellen Tordesillas, President of Vera Files, is a rabid supporter of Trillanes since way back during his mutineer days and continues to be until this day....Surprising they always release pro-Leni and LP articles right?

 

 

[camiar]

On 10/7/2021 at 3:17 PM, Rook05 said:

Interesting... what do you consider as criteria to vote for him?

He is the only Presidential candidate who has clear ideas about the national developmental issues and has already developed a platform on how to address them.

I like to have a leader who has a clear vision.

For example, on the issue of sufficient energy to sustain our national economic developments, here is what he wants to do:

 

Edited October 12, 2021 by camiar

[YesTony]

6 hours ago, camiar said:

He is the only Presidential candidate who has clear ideas about the national developmental issues and has already developed a platform on how to address them.

I like to have a leader who has a clear vision.

For example, on the issue of sufficient energy to sustain our national economic developments, here is what he wants to do:

 

I see, interesting.  I like his voice in this video and overall message.

With what you say and his direction from the video, wouldn't he fit the responsibilities of either a Secretary of Finance or Secretary of Human Settlements and Urban Development?  This way he can focus on and be responsible for these efforts.

[Gtayo11]

On 10/9/2021 at 9:13 PM, getsumei said:

Wait, sorry. Medyo nagcoincide lang kasi I was talking to someone the other day about the Ilocos Norte Windmills plus other things found out from his personal website.

 

I found articles that are not exactly in-line with the Marcos narratives stating that the windmills are initially their idea. At best, the most I could credit to him would be his approval/signing for the go-ahead of the project for his region.

All I'm saying na he was lucky that he was in service during that time.

 

My findings:

There was an external study by NREL (National Renewable Energy Laboratory, US based) which provided a comprehensive map of locations within the Philippines that are feasible for good wind energy alternatives. Numerous locations where found - with Ilocos Norte being one of the best.

 

EDC (Energy Development Corp, Lopez owned) then sent their proposal to build the wind farms and got approvals from ERC/DOE (Energy Regulatory Commission/Dept of Energy) following the Renewable Energy Act 2008. Funding was provided by loans from various bank loans. The project was done with cooperation from other local and international companies

 

In summary, this project seems to be initiated and driven by a private company as a contractor, and given approval by the PH govt - articles I found regarding the project has no mention of any Marcos.

 

Don't mistake this a a bash of the project. I'm all for renewable energies. I'm just saying the narratives does not match. Something that I find... consistent.

 

Now since we are in the topic of his vision for renewable energy, I wanted to know if he had any bills/resolutions in line with it so I can better understand his vision. 

From his website, I found SRN 622 which was labeled as Energy Infrastructure System.

Thinking it was something related to the windmills, I checked the senate site for SRN 622. Only 1 entry was found syempre kasi I searched for the actual resolution number. But what I found as SRN 622 was this:

Authority of LGUs on PCSO’S Small Town Lottery Operations

Filed by Lacson. Ok...

 

That's just one example... I did find more pero finding these kind of mistakes on one's public portfolio as critical as this makes you wonder nalang e...

Brings back memories of his Oxford attainment.
 

edited:
Found that I looked under the wrong congress. 622 is verified as a his resolution for Energy Infrastructure System.

 

 

 

Sources:

https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy01osti/28903.pdf

https://www.power-technology.com/projects/burgos-wind-project-ilocos-norte/

https://www.adb.org/sites/default/files/project-documents/48325/48325-001-xarr-en.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20141109053707/http://www.interaksyon.com/business/64732/edc-starts-construction-of-burgos-wind-farm

https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/money/companies/441491/erc-clears-edc-wind-farm-for-fit-incentives/story/

http://investvine.com/philippines-expands-wind-geothermal/

https://www.bongbongmarcos.com/legislative-accomplishments/

http://legacy.senate.gov.ph/lis/leg_sys.aspx?congress=18&type=resolution&p=1

http://legacy.senate.gov.ph/lis/leg_sys.aspx?congress=16&type=resolution&p=1

Well structured but mahirap accept ng mga die hard yan. Kung local sources, sasabihin dilawan or bias media. Same if international but the narrative is western puppet or illuminati picking their leader per country. Sabay memes, tiktok at youtube source nila. I’m all for discussing with those either side or on the fence (more irl. I don’t think I can influence strangers online) but yung mga ganun nasa level na ng flat earther or anti vaxxer for me. 

[camiar]

18 hours ago, Rook05 said:

I see, interesting.  I like his voice in this video and overall message.

With what you say and his direction from the video, wouldn't he fit the responsibilities of either a Secretary of Finance or Secretary of Human Settlements and Urban Development?  This way he can focus on and be responsible for these efforts.

Why would BBM go for cabinet level if he can run as President? As president, can delegate these responsibilities to qualified people using the implementation templates that they have proven to work in the past.

[Harding]

Dear Leni, you have proven yourself to be good leader of our country especially during the pandemic. we admire your courage despite the danger you are facing. we are with you. if you ask for support, we are always there for you in our humble capacity. Let Leni lead!

[camiar]

On 10/7/2021 at 3:17 PM, Rook05 said:

Interesting... what do you consider as criteria to vote for him?

Criteria for choosing a president:

1. Experience in running the government. BBM was a Congressman, Senator, Provincial Governor.
2. Knowledge of both National and International Issues that may affect the country.
3. Has vision and focus.
4. Not beholden to oligarchs and vested interest groups.
5. Has his own power base and is not dependent on "kingmakers" to get himself elected

Edited October 13, 2021 by camiar

[YesTony]

21 hours ago, camiar said:

Why would BBM go for cabinet level if he can run as President? As president, can delegate these responsibilities to qualified people using the implementation templates that they have proven to work in the past.

You mentioned performance characteristics which is more fit to being responsible rather than accountable. 

13 hours ago, camiar said:

Criteria for choosing a president:

1. Experience in running the government. BBM was a Congressman, Senator, Provincial Governor.
2. Knowledge of both National and International Issues that may affect the country.
3. Has vision and focus.
4. Not beholden to oligarchs and vested interest groups.
5. Has his own power base and is not dependent on "kingmakers" to get himself elected

These are buzz words.  Can you help me understand by providing examples of accomplishments that i can fact check? 

I observed that BBM was hired by us to work and not be a lackey and wallpaper of Du30. 

[camiar]

38 minutes ago, Rook05 said:

You mentioned performance characteristics which is more fit to being responsible rather than accountable. 

Responsibility and accountability go hand-in-hand. These two provides the motivation to perform. 

To be able to perform, you must have the ability i.e. having the knowledge and experience. 

What's your point?

Edited October 14, 2021 by camiar