We Are Awesome Thread

[rooster69ph]

Your heart is in the wrong place. Let it bleed for the real victims.

I don't know but there seems to be a misconception here...

 

Just because i am against extrajudicial killings of "criminals" does not mean i don't find these guys liable for the crimes they committed. These criminals should pay for their crimes. If our law says they should be killed (death penalty) then so be it since its the law. But extrajudicial killing is an unlawfull act. Essentially we cannot correct something wrong with another mistake. Let thenm have their day in court because that is the system.

 

So anong gusto ninyo, pag naagrabyado ka pwede ka nang pumatay. Eh paano naman yun napatay mo? Pakiramdam ng pamilya niya naagrabyado mo sila, so ok lang balikan ka nila at patayin?

 

We have laws and we should live by it. Keeping a blind eye may become a dangerous precedent. What if extrajudicial killings have become the norm, and some unscrupulous individuals take advantage of this to eliminate somebody. Hindi ka ba natatakot na pwedeng kang pagkakwartahan ng masasamang elemento at kung hindi ka magbigay papatayin at palabasin nila addict o tulak ka.

 

At the end of the day if we express our views/stand on extrajudicial killings, should we base it on logic or emotions.

[rooster69ph]

Pagiging patas ang isinisigaw pero sa tono ng sinabi hindi naman kaila na may gustong kilingan.

 

Para kasing ganito...criminal yan kaya mas hindi deserving yan sa tulong ng chr kumpara sa good citizen. Sa batas ba may pagkakaiba ang pagtingin kung ang na rape ay isang beauty queen kumpara sa isang pangit na taong grasa? Nakatatak kasi un "kriminal" but without looking at the tag its the same crime against life per se ke sa mabuting mamamayan man yan o sa addict nangyari.

 

Kaya sa tingin ko mas pinagtutuunan ng pansin ang mga yan kasi nga may preconceived notion ang karamihan na kriminal yan, salot sa lipunan kaya ok lang itumba. Kahit na sanihin mong ang parusa sa krimen na nagawa niya ay kamatayan, hindi pa din tama o justified na i salvage na lang.

 

Natandaan ko tuloy pangaral ng nakakatanda sa isang anak niya na nagseseslos dun sa black sheep ng pamilya kasi mas pinagtutuunan ng pansin yun nakatatanda na black sheep ng pamilya. Sabi nun good boy nay, tay masama ang loob ko sa inyo kasi mas mahal ninyo si kuya kaysa sa akin kasi lagi na lang siya ang inaalala ninyo kahit na puros sama ng loob lang naman ang dinulot sa inyo, ako nga po na honor student hindi ninyo mabigyang halaga. Ni hindi kayo umattend ng graduation ko para sabitan ako ng medalya at pinili niyo pang pumunta sa presinto. Yun dapat na ipambibili ninyo ng reward ko ipinampiyansa pa ninyo kay kuya. Sabi nun magulang anak pareho namin kayo mahal ng kuya mo. Subalit mas nangangailangan lang siya ng karagdagang attensiyon mula sa amin kaysa sa iyo. Pero kung sa iyo nangyari ang kalagayan niya sigurado kaming ganun din ang ibibigay naming attensiyon sa iyo.

Edited July 29, 2016 by rooster69ph

[Edmund Dantes]

The thing is, something is being done about those extra judicial killings. Something is being done to ensure that the police will not go beyond the limits of their authority. Something is even being done to as much as possible make the drug personalities surrender and help then rehabilitate.

 

Problema kasi, puro ka walang katapusang kiao kiao, wala naman kaming marinig rinig sayo ni isang konkretong sulusyon na gusto mo para tugunan problema na yan. If you are gonna keep yappin, then what is your proposed solution? What steps need to be further done to avoid abuse of authority and to deal with the salvagings? Wala!

[Ryuji_tanaka]

I don't know but there seems to be a misconception here...

 

Just because i am against extrajudicial killings of "criminals" does not mean i don't find these guys liable for the crimes they committed. These criminals should pay for their crimes. If our law says they should be killed (death penalty) then so be it since its the law. But extrajudicial killing is an unlawfull act. Essentially we cannot correct something wrong with another mistake. Let thenm have their day in court because that is the system.

 

So anong gusto ninyo, pag naagrabyado ka pwede ka nang pumatay. Eh paano naman yun napatay mo? Pakiramdam ng pamilya niya naagrabyado mo sila, so ok lang balikan ka nila at patayin?

 

We have laws and we should live by it. Keeping a blind eye may become a dangerous precedent. What if extrajudicial killings have become the norm, and some unscrupulous individuals take advantage of this to eliminate somebody. Hindi ka ba natatakot na pwedeng kang pagkakwartahan ng masasamang elemento at kung hindi ka magbigay papatayin at palabasin nila addict o tulak ka.

 

At the end of the day if we express our views/stand on extrajudicial killings, should we base it on logic or emotions.

Logic, parang ganito lang yan. Kung ikaw may cancer, are you going to do everything in your power to remove the tumor and prevent it from spreading or are you going to go all angsty over what is going to happen to a poor bunch of cells?

[rooster69ph]

Logic, parang ganito lang yan. Kung ikaw may cancer, are you going to do everything in your power to remove the tumor and prevent it from spreading or are you going to go all angsty over what is going to happen to a poor bunch of cells?

 

Matanong ko lang, may batas ba nagbabawal na ipatanggal ang cancer cell tulad lang ng extrajudicial killings?

 

Un cancer ipatanggal mo o hindi wala naman lalabagin na batas unlike un extrajudicial killing.

Edited July 30, 2016 by rooster69ph

[Edmund Dantes]

Matanong ko lang, may batas ba nagbabawal na ipatanggal ang cancer cell tulad lang ng extrajudicial killings?

 

Un cancer ipatanggal mo o hindi wala naman lalabagin na batas unlike un extrajudicial killing.

 

 

I like the cancer analogy. Ganito yun sakin. Kapag nagpachemotherapy ka para sa cancer, me expected side-effects yan lagi.

 

Ngayon dun sa extra-judicial killings naman na yan, ang simple lang.

 

Step 1: Request autopsy sa medico legal

Step 2: Kung me nakitang foul play, di magsampa ng kaukulang demanda

Step 3: Iharap mga pulis na mismong sangkot sa NAPOLCOM at sa mga korte

Step 4: Sibakin at parusahan kung me mapapatunayan.

[rooster69ph]

Yun to undergo chemo is a personal choice ... Thus tanggap niya kung may side effects nga ito.

 

Yun mapatay sa extrajudicial killings, choice din ba yan ng biktima?

 

Sabi nga aanhin pa ang damo pag patay na ang kabayo ...

 

In this case maibabalik mo ba ang buhay nun biktimang pinatay kahit na magautopsy, magsampa ng demanda kahit pa mapatunayang maysala nga.

Edited July 31, 2016 by rooster69ph

[Edmund Dantes]

Yun to undergo chemo is a personal choice ... Thus tanggap niya kung may side effects nga ito.

 

Yun mapatay sa extrajudicial killings, choice din ba yan ng biktima?

 

Sabi nga aanhin pa ang damo pag patay na ang kabayo ...

 

In this case maibabalik mo ba ang buhay nun biktimang pinatay kahit na magautopsy, magsampa ng demanda kahit pa mapatunayang maysala nga.

 

Kaya walang pinatutunguhan usapan na ito, kasi puro ka ngawa pag tanungin ka naman kung anong gusto mong gawa, nganga. Pinapaikot ikot mo lang usapan. Binibigyan ka na nga ng tamang sulusyon sa problema, puro ka pa din reklamo.

 

So ano nga gusto mo gawin para tugunan problema? Pag ngumawa ka ba ng ngumawa mabibigyan na ba ng katarungan salvaging na yan?

 

Hay naku hirap sa mga hipokrito pag adik pinapatay.... waaaaah humang rights,.....waaaaah waaaaah waaaaaah. Pero nung naman mga kawawang magsasaka at lumad pinapatay, tahimik lang

[haroots2]

 

Bakit hindi mo din tingnan sa punto ng biktima ng summary execution ... kung ikaw ang magiging biktima nito, ok lang sa iyo o magbabago ang pananaw mo?

 

Actually I am waiting na hulihin o kung tumakbo o manlaban e di patayin na itong walng kwentang bayaw ko at ang kanyang asawa. Idc kung may 8 silang anak tutal hindi naman sila nagpapakain dito. Mas maganda pa ang kinabukasan ng mga anak nila kung kukunin ng DSWD. And I know na walang nang pag asang magbago pa ito hindi lang sa pagiging adil kundi sa pagiging tamad.

[Edmund Dantes]

Kung sa senado, may tinatawag na "fiscalizer", sa forum na ito, may tinatawag na "reklamador."

 

Tama! Masama pa nito, reklamo ng reklamo, pero wala naman maipresintang konkretong sulusyon sa problema. Puro reklamo lang

[FleurDeLune]

FDL,

 

Regarding the voting sans the alternicks, how many believe that there was cheating and how many believe that there wasn't any cheating?

 

It is given that alter nicks can vote as well and we have no control for that matter. As a result, we can't avoid and have this kind of stat ( a tie between those who believe and otherwise, though the former was leading by a large margin from the early stage or before the election). So, yes, it is STILL favors those who believe in the existence of cheating.

Edited August 1, 2016 by FleurDeLune

[camiar]

sa kinadami-daming pwedeng maging inevitable, bakit kaya ang paglibing sa crook sa lnmb pa ang naging inevitable. susme.

 

i am not saying it wont happen. it will happen only if the decision-makers have a weak stand against large-scale corruption. let us see.

 

Move on ka na lang. It's inevitable. Self-righteous protestation is futile...

[FleurDeLune]

FDL,

 

May I know which opinion is more favored sans the alternicks?

 

The same answer as the other thread (favored to be buried at LNMB) though this one has a small margin.

[rooster69ph]

 

Actually I am waiting na hulihin o kung tumakbo o manlaban e di patayin na itong walng kwentang bayaw ko at ang kanyang asawa. Idc kung may 8 silang anak tutal hindi naman sila nagpapakain dito. Mas maganda pa ang kinabukasan ng mga anak nila kung kukunin ng DSWD. And I know na walang nang pag asang magbago pa ito hindi lang sa pagiging adil kundi sa pagiging tamad.

 

Sa tono ng pananalita mo mukhang hindi kasi related directly by blood itong tinutukoy mong "kamaganak" ... the typical I don't care attitude since it does not concerns me directly.

 

But I am not surprise on your reaction considering pati yun mga bata na anak nila (na sa tingin ko hindi naman addict) wala ka ngang pakialam sa magiging kinabukasan niyan dahil imbes na kupkupin mo para maisaayos ang buhay ay hahayaan mo na dswd na ang bahala. Seriously, ganun ba tunay na pagpapakita ng pagmamalasakit sa pamilya?

[punkee]

 

Move on ka na lang. It's inevitable. Self-righteous protestation is futile...

sus, it is so easy not to budge from my stand.

 

you guys twist it around to make it seem like we cant move on. Marcos is dead, done, a has-been. You guys want to resurrect his name. even his lies you want to make it seem true. Sino kaya hindi maka-move on?

 

if self-righteous means I hate large-scale thievery and corruption, then yes, im proud to be called self-righteous. but just so we are clear, calling me self-righteous is so wrong esp if you ever cared to understand my posts.

 

what are you, then, by not just supporting, BUT FIGHTING, for the obviously criminal?

 

ewan ko ba, but whenever i just make a hint of calling, or describing a poster something, my post gets deleted.