rooster69ph Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 That's why you don't believe what the media says during those times immediately because of the situation. Ang mga news editor nun medyo selective on how they choose their words. In other words taming is tantamount to lying ... because iniba mo ang katotohanan that simple ... Quote Link to comment
r35gtr Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 He was supported by GMA, the incumbent president, during the 2010 elections. He couldn't have run out of funds.GMA dropped him in the middle of the race and rooted for VillarBreaking news. Miriam has rejected the request of a doctor for her to release her medical record, saying it is a violation of her right to privacy. I thought I already had somebody to vote for. Now, I am back to zero. I might as well just cast a blank ballot in 2016.geez, there are certain rumours on how her son commited " Suicide"What Corazon Aquino did...sell PAL to Lucio Tan samantalang pag-aari yan ng GOBYERNO cno ngayon nakikinabangWhat Fidel Ramos did...sell Bonifacio land... ni wlang naging pakinabang ang AFP sa pagkakabenta?What Erap did...sell himself to Jail...What Gloria did...say IM SORRY for Election Fraud..What PNOY did...DAP and Yolanda fund corruptions.... bakit ayaw pang ilibing sa lupang hinirang si Marcos... Multuhin sana kyo heheheDo not forget why Ramos is very rich till now, siya ang rason kaya Philippines ang may pinaka mahal ng kuryenta sa buong asea. Remember the IPP deals (Independent power producer deals) Kay mar roxas tayo! Para laging may mga show tulad ng playgirls! Malay nyo magkaron na sa pinas ng naked news. Si korina syempre ang bidang host. Kasama sila doris bigornia at susan enriquez.Mar roxas is a good Candidate pero di ko lang talaga gusto si Corina, am I weird? Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Kaya nga, History is written by the Victorious. Kung sino yung panalo at nasa kapangyarihan, sila lagi yung magiging bida. Kung nagkabaliktad ang tadhana, malamang ang mapapanood mo sa ABS-CBN na episode ng MMK love story ni Imelda at ni Ferdie. Si Anne Curtis siguro si Imelda at si Derek Ramsay naman si Ferdie... Tapos ang Dovie Beams... hmmm sino kaya? lol. At syempre kontrabida si Ninoy dito. Siguro dito isa syang komunista o kaya terorista na gusto ipapatay ang presidente. Yun lang ang dahilan bakit Bayani si Ninoy at Santa si Cory! Kasi sila yung panalo. Kahit nga ang pagkaputa ni Kris glorified na glorified pa! Iba kasi ang me utang na loob di ba? ang problema ang nagyari ay nangyari na ...tadhana ayon sa iyo. kung hindi siya naging gahaman at bumaba sa pwesto nun matapos ang ikalawang termino .. malamang bidang bida pa si APO hanggang ngayon. e ginusto niya yun diba sa pagkagahaman. ayun nangyari ang nangyari ayon sa tadhana. at tulad ng madalas nating makita ... laging nagrereklamo ang mga talunan Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 In other words taming is tantamount to lying ... because iniba mo ang katotohanan that simple ... Truth is sometimes a matter of perspective and interpretation! Have you ever heard of the Rashomon effect? You pick an interpretation of the truth the way it fits your interest. To they yellowtards they interpret the declaration of martial law as a means to keep Marcos in power because he was greedy. But to the loyalists, had martial law not been declared the communist could have taken over this country. Alalahanin nyo, yung communist movement from China and Russia spread like wildfire all over south east asia. Naapektohan ang Cambodia at Vietnam. Kung nagkataon siguro, baka Mala Pol Pot pa ang namuno sa bansa natin. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 ang problema ang nagyari ay nangyari na ...tadhana ayon sa iyo. kung hindi siya naging gahaman at bumaba sa pwesto nun matapos ang ikalawang termino .. malamang bidang bida pa si APO hanggang ngayon. e ginusto niya yun diba sa pagkagahaman. ayun nangyari ang nangyari ayon sa tadhana. at tulad ng madalas nating makita ... laging nagrereklamo ang mga talunan Ang mga Aquino ba hindi gahaman? Oligarchs ang Cojuangco-Aquino clan. Hacienda Luisita? Duh! Pero sila panalo, so hindi sila demonized ng media. Isa pa, tumatanaw nga ng utang na loob ang mga Lopez sa mga Aquino. Kita mo naman, san ka makakakita babaeng pumatol sa me asawa at nagkatulo glorified na glorified pa! Si Erap di ba? Convicted plunderer! Bobo na nga, nagnakaw pa! Pero is he demonized like Marcos? No! Because panalo pa din sya sa huli. Nakipagkasundo kay GMA, kaya ayun ngayon manila mayor na. History is written by the victorious Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Truth is sometimes a matter of perspective and interpretation! Have you ever heard of the Rashomon effect? You pick an interpretation of the truth the way it fits your interest. To they yellowtards they interpret the declaration of martial law as a means to keep Marcos in power because he was greedy. But to the loyalists, had martial law not been declared the communist could have taken over this country. Alalahanin nyo, yung communist movement from China and Russia spread like wildfire all over south east asia. Naapektohan ang Cambodia at Vietnam. Kung nagkataon siguro, baka Mala Pol Pot pa ang namuno sa bansa natin. so let me ask you ... alin sa dalawang perspective ang pinaniniwalaan mo? Yun "truth for you" Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Ang mga Aquino ba hindi gahaman? Oligarchs ang Cojuangco-Aquino clan. Hacienda Luisita? Duh! Pero sila panalo, so hindi sila demonized ng media. Isa pa, tumatanaw nga ng utang na loob ang mga Lopez sa mga Aquino. Kita mo naman, san ka makakakita babaeng pumatol sa me asawa at nagkatulo glorified na glorified pa! Si Erap di ba? Convicted plunderer! Bobo na nga, nagnakaw pa! Pero is he demonized like Marcos? No! Because panalo pa din sya sa huli. Nakipagkasundo kay GMA, kaya ayun ngayon manila mayor na. History is written by the victorious nanalo ang aquino dahil sa kagagawan din ni Marcos sa sarili niya ... tulad ng sinabi ko kung bumaba sa pwesto si Marcos after his 2nd term then ... end of story. Bida siya ... siya ang panalo. Kaso bida na naging contra-bida pa. Do you think Cory would be in the picture kung nag exit na lang si Makoy? Tulad ng sinabi ko si Makoy ang bida hanggang ngayon at yun mga sumunod ang contra-bida kung ganito pa rin tayo. We wouldn't even know if iCory, Ramos, Erap, GMA and Pnoy would have been president. Pero ginusto niya yon e at yun ang kanyang "tadhana" Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 nanalo ang aquino dahil sa kagagawan din ni Marcos sa sarili niya ... tulad ng sinabi ko kung bumaba sa pwesto si Marcos after his 2nd term then ... end of story. Bida siya ... siya ang panalo. Kaso bida na naging contra-bida pa. Do you think Cory would be in the picture kung nag exit na lang si Makoy? Tulad ng sinabi ko si Makoy ang bida hanggang ngayon at yun mga sumunod ang contra-bida kung ganito pa rin tayo. We wouldn't even know if iCory, Ramos, Erap, GMA and Pnoy would have been president. Pero ginusto niya yon e at yun ang kanyang "tadhana" I agree with you here. Even with his health deteriorated ayaw pa rin niyang umalis Kumandidato pa for a snap election e hindi na siya fit nun to be a president. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) One issue against Marcos was his declaration of martial law on August 21, 1972 to quell the communist rebellion and reform Philippine society. In my interviews with him while he was on Christmas furlough at his Times Street residence, Ninoy disclosed he would declare martial law if he were elected president. Malinaw naman siguro na ang sinangayunan ni Ninoy ay ang pagdeklara ng Martial Law to quell the communist rebellion and reform the Phil. Society. Sinabi ba niya na sinasangayunan niya ang ilang na nangyari sa ML tulad ng ... lies, fear, injustice, censorship, poverty, arrogance of those in power na maaring mabasa dito ... What Martial Law was like Higit sa lahat kung si Ninoy ang nagpatupad ng ML, gagamitin din kaya niya ito para maluklok ng mas matagal sa pwesto? IMHO para sa iba yun ML mismo ang issue ... IMHO HINDI! Ang mga pangyayaring naganap nun panahon ng ML ang issue. Edited October 22, 2015 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
xoxocaptain Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Ferdinand Marcos- the best president ever Pnoy- the worst of them all. Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Malinaw naman siguro na ang sinangayunan ni Ninoy ay ang pagdeklara ng Martial Law to quell the communist rebellion and reform the Phil. Society. Sinabi ba niya na sinasangayunan niya ang ilang na nangyari sa ML tulad ng ... lies, fear, injustice, censorship, poverty, arrogance of those in power na maaring mabasa dito ... What Martial Law was like Higit sa lahat kung si Ninoy ang nagpatupad ng ML, gagamitin din kaya niya ito para maluklok ng mas matagal sa pwesto? IMHO para sa iba yun ML mismo ang issue ... IMHO HINDI! Ang mga pangyayaring naganap nun panahon ng ML ang issue. Lol Ninoy is an oligarch, hari din pamilya nila sa tarlac bago pa ang martial law, huwag mo naman masyado dakilain si Ninoy. Ilang beses ko bang sasabihin na truth is sometimes a matter of perspective. May mga namatay kamo nung Panahon ni McCoy? Ok sure! pero bakit parang ang bait yata ng media sa pagkastigo sa mga Aquino sa hacienda luisita massacre at mediola massacre? Me data pa nga na nagsasabi mas malala na ngayon ang extra judicial killings kesa panahon ni McCoy. Its all a matter of perspective Quote Link to comment
Edmund Dantes Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Eto lang sasabihin ko, karamihan ng mga problema na meron tayo ngayon mas kasalanan ng mga sumunod kay Apo! Hindi nga lumiit ng gaano utang natin, nagtriple triple pa. Tapos kasalanan pa din ni McCoy? Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Lol Ninoy is an oligarch, hari din pamilya nila sa tarlac bago pa ang martial law, huwag mo naman masyado dakilain si Ninoy. Ilang beses ko bang sasabihin na truth is sometimes a matter of perspective. May mga namatay kamo nung Panahon ni McCoy? Ok sure! pero bakit parang ang bait yata ng media sa pagkastigo sa mga Aquino sa hacienda luisita massacre at mediola massacre? Me data pa nga na nagsasabi mas malala na ngayon ang extra judicial killings kesa panahon ni McCoy. Its all a matter of perspectiveAnd therefore? You telling me gagawin din ni Ninoy ang mga pinaggagawa ni Marcos? Btw, di mo pa rin pala sinasagot yun tanong ko. Alin ba sa dalawang perspective na sinasabi mo ang pinaniniwalaan mo? Yun "truth" para sa iyo... Pakisagot lang pls. Edited October 22, 2015 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Kailangan pa daw maging isang clairvoyant samantalang magbasa lang siya tiyak malalaman niya na sumasangayon man si Ninoy sa batas Militar para tugisin ang rebellion at sa pagbabago ng lipunan, tutol siya sa pagiging isang diktadura nun panahon ng batas militar Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Incidentally, in the article The Ninoy Aquino I Knew by tony Lopez which was earlier quoted here in this thread, the poster failed to inform us that the writer did say that Ninoy would have been a good president....something he didn't say of Marcos. Nakakatawa lang ,... Ang argumento ispeculation daw since he didn't become president. So kung ganun bakit mo paniniwalaan agad un sinabi niyang ipatutupad niya ang batas militar e hindi naman siya naging presidente para mapatunayan na gagawin talaga niya ang sinabi. Ikalawa, Kailangan ba maging presidente para tumutol sa diktadurya? Edited October 22, 2015 by rooster69ph Quote Link to comment
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