Poll: The Best And Worst Of Filipino Presidents

[Kingkongphils]

If you read the book waltzing with a dictator, though i think most stories here are exagerated, you can understand how marcos can be a victim of black propaganda. The book tells how marcos ran rings around 4 presidents of the US.

[rooster69ph]

True but you can't convict a dead man so I gave more weight to the amount deemed by international and local courts as ill-gotten wealth.

 

 

Eh ganun talaga ... Kailan ba lumaban ng parehas yan mga yan. Puros technicalities dinadaan .... Ganun pa man ... Ganid pa rin si Makoy

[Ryuji_tanaka]

 

My ranking of presidents with most tangible accomplishments:

1. Marcos

2. Arroyo

3. Ramos

4. Erap

5. BS Aquino

6. CC Aquino

 

Those who claim to be honest and corrupt-free are the ones without tangible accomplishment. Neither have they reduced corruption towards the end of their terms.

what (positive) accomplishment did #4 and #5 do?

[rooster69ph]

Buti na forever bitter di naman dapat kinakalimutan ang kawalanghiyaan na ginawa niya at ng kanyang pamilya sa ating bansa.

 

Kaysa naman forever foolishly devoted sa pagtatanggol sa isang ganid

[pinpoint015]

Well, the accusers should then get better lawyers. Lol. Let's just put it this way. If may nagawang mabuti, +1. If may nagawang masama/walang ginawa, -1.

 

Sample number 1:

Marcos = +1-1=0

BS Aquino = -1

 

So sino higher? 0 or -1?

 

Hahaha

[pinpoint015]

The bottom line is no Marcos is in the slammer. The delusional hater of Marcos on this thread cannot debunk the facts that I said here. Matatawa ka lang kung magbackread ka kasi hindi naman mapatunayan yung pinagsasabi. Kahit isama pa ni Abnoy si Ramos at yung nanay niyang palpak din, wala pa rin yung tatlong itlog panama kay Macoy sa nation building.

 

#hatemarcosspamore

 

#foreverbitterkaymarcos

Already backread this thread. This guy is also posting on the other political threads. Galit sya sa corrupt. Which is lahat naman tayo. Pero ang mga discussion points nya, sablay din. Hahaha

[red60]

Yes, while it is true that you cannot convict a dead man, it is anyone's guess if Marcos would have been convicted or not. I respect your opinion. I was just stating mine, man.

 

The key point here is that international courts have already ruled that Marcos stole the money and ordered banks to return the money which makes him the most corrupt. It's already irrelevant that Marcos was not convicted.

[rooster69ph]

Already backread this thread. This guy is also posting on the other political threads. Galit sya sa corrupt. Which is lahat naman tayo. Pero ang mga discussion points nya, sablay din. Hahaha

Wow ang plastic...galit daw sa corrupt pero pro Marcos na isa sa pinaka corrupt worldwide

[camiar]

 

My ranking of presidents with most tangible accomplishments:

1. Marcos

2. Arroyo

3. Ramos

4. Erap

5. BS Aquino

6. CC Aquino

 

Those who claim to be honest and corrupt-free are the ones without tangible accomplishment. Neither have they reduced corruption towards the end of their terms.

 

 

what (positive) accomplishment did #4 and #5 do?

 

Hmmmm.... tekaaa... medyo mahirap, eh...

 

eto...

 

#4 Erap set up the Carabao Center to re-develop carabaos for the benefit of farmers. Improved carabao breeds are now bigger and stronger. Some breeds were improved to produce more milk for dairy business production. Erap actually spent more for the development of the agricultural sector than most presidents while Abnoy practically neglected the agricultural sector.

 

#5 Abnoy : His being president forced his sister Kris to tone down her antics by maybe...35%.

Edited March 13, 2016 by camiar

[Ryuji_tanaka]

 

 

 

Hmmmm.... tekaaa... medyo mahirap, eh...

 

eto...

 

#4 Erap set up the Carabao Center to re-develop carabaos for the benefit of farmers. Improved carabao breeds are now bigger and stronger. Some breeds were improved to produce more milk for dairy business production. Erap actually spent more for the development of the agricultural sector than most presidents while Abnoy practically neglected the agricultural sector.

 

#5 Abnoy : His being president forced his sister Kris to tone down her antics by maybe...35%.

Hmm....kudos on #4, galing sa research. Pero yung #5, parang di naman..papansin pa rin e.

 

How about #6, ano positive contribution niya?

[camiar]

Hmm....kudos on #4, galing sa research. Pero yung #5, parang di naman..papansin pa rin e.

 

How about #6, ano positive contribution niya?

 

Actually for #5 & #6, I can't think of tangible accomplishment.

 

Their administrations marked the return of oligarchs and vested interest groups into power.

 

The elites are now dominating the businesses. Our economic growth during their administrations were based on constructions of malls, condominiums and property developments, as well as roads and power plants that are built to serve these developments. Government development projects were only to enhance the value of the elite's investments.

 

There were no attempts to develop agriculture and the livelihood of the people living in the countrysides.

 

There were no development in small to medium scale industries and businesses to generate sustainable jobs.

 

Their administrations' time and resources were wasted in going after, and destroying their political rivals.

Edited March 13, 2016 by camiar

[haroots2]

The advent of social media exposed the bias of the "yellow" media and exposed the bullshit they've been spreading about Marcos and Arroyo. Many people in social media realize that and are now enlightened. With media, you cannot counter it since there was no way to counter it until social media came along. In social media, you can express your opinion and counter the spins that the media are doing.

 

For me my decision for GMA is not only based on the media but my boss which is her presidential adviser confirms that she is truly an evil and corrupt person. Although she did help improve the economy of the country siya pa rin ang biggest benefactor and the the people.

[haroots2]

Your boss is entitled to his opinion. I am just wondering why he still worked for Arroyo since he perceived her as evil and corrupt.

 

Because she still wants the connection and prestige to be a Presidential adviser. Active/officer din kasi siya noon sa mga business organization groups. She was also a presidential adviser for Ramos and Erap so may comparison din siya.

Edited March 14, 2016 by haroots2

[haroots2]

Based on what you're saying, your boss is a hypocrite.

 

I'm not denying it. But she is telling the truth and have an inside knowledge about GMA.

[haroots2]

Your boss is entitled to her opinion about GMA but she has major flaws herself based on your story.

 

She is just saying what she saw from the inside the circle. Its irrelevant what's her flaws are. Unlike us we are just seeing GMA from the outside and thru media.