jelly bean Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 ...just be aware that not all you get from media are true... Be discerning.Of course. Check sources and do research. “In this age of misinformation, we should value forgetting as much as we do remembering.” Quote Link to comment
juan t Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) BBC "Hardtalk" host Stephen Sackur's interview with Trillanes was hilarious. Sackur: Are you a democrat? Trillanes: No, I am from the Nacionalista Party. Had you watched the actual interview and not the edited version on the internet, you would've found that Trillanes's excact statement was "Yes, I am from the Nacionalista Party but yes, I am a democrat" -(The latter part of his statement being slightly muffled by the host talking simultaneously). 'Tis a non-issue actually, just more internet propaganda making mountains out of a mole-hills. You should be more discerning with your sources of information. Edited June 24, 2017 by juan t Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 Had you watched the actual interview and not the edited version on the internet, you would've found that Trillanes's excact statement was "Yes, I am from the Nacionalista Party but yes, I am a democrat" -(The latter part of his statement being slightly muffled by the host talking simultaneously). 'Tis a non-issue actually, just more internet propaganda making mountains out of a mole-hills. You should be more discerning with your sources of information.Internet propaganda pass on as "credible media"seems to be the norm these days. Quote Link to comment
juan t Posted June 25, 2017 Share Posted June 25, 2017 The fact is he said that he is from the Nacionalista Party first and only after Sackur corrected him that he said he is a democrat. It's either you didn't watch it or you are lamely spinning this in favor of Trillanes. It may be a non-issue to you but it gave me comic relief. Why should I be more discerning with my sources when that interview was a primary source of information? Are you implying that that interview is fake news? I watched that interview and it actually happened so it's not fake news. Impossible. They were talking simultaneously and Trillanes had already finished his sentence before Sackur could finish his. Think of a different excuse. Quote Link to comment
niceNslow.2 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 is trillanes accurate on his informations in BBC interview? marijuana addiction? he did not mentioned shabu?so is this another stint of the good senator in shaming himself or the filipino in general? Quote Link to comment
juan t Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 It was Sackur who corrected him first before Trillanes realized he made a dumb mistake while Sackur was talking. Regarding thinking of another excuse, heed your own advice. Nope. You're blowing hot air again as usual. Trillanes was already finished with his statement before Sackur could, as you say, "correct" him. And the fact that Trillanes kept talking dispite Sackur's interruption, indicates that he didn't even hear much less process what Sackur was saying. Ang hirap kaya makaintindi ng tao pag sabay kayo nagsasalita. Quote Link to comment
JayZip Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 It doesn't affect me anymore because I don't watch or listen to it as much as I should have.All I know is that facebook, twitter and Instagram is not news. Quote Link to comment
Shockers101 Posted July 14, 2017 Share Posted July 14, 2017 Media every where which ever country it is. is primarily a tool for propaganda. media men and women have their own take on whats going on and this affects how they deliver the information. its up to the person receiving the reports on how they would interpret the information, yes interpret there is a core of truth in there but its up to you to decide which is true and which is propaganda. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) This comment from investment analysts will tell you the real reasons why oligarchs make sure they control the media: From BusinessWorld: Headline: "Ang acquiring Prieto interest in Inquirer" Mary Jade Roxas-Divinagracia, PwC Philippines managing partner for deals and corporate finance, said Mr. Ang’s investment was “quite an interesting move” since the print media industry has been on a decline globally.“I can only surmise that it is more strategic rather than financial. As they say, ‘he who controls the media/headlines controls the world.’ ... ...The acquisition follows Mr. Ang’s failed attempt to secure a minority stake in broadcaster GMA Network, Inc. in 2014... “(Mr. Ang has) been eyeing media or communications for the longest time so now he’s getting his chance. ...,” Luis A. Limlingan, business development head at Regina Capital Development Corp., said... Edited July 18, 2017 by camiar Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 With the acquisition by SMC of the Inquirer, I see a more balanced view of Duterte. Mr. Ang said he is acquiring Inquirer in his personal capacity, meaning, not through SMC. I'm wondering whether the Prietos' are just temporarily handing over Inquirer to somebody else until the heat from the Duterte government passes over. Just like what Roberto Ongpin did with his PhilWeb gambling company. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 It doesn't affect me anymore because I don't watch or listen to it as much as I should have.All I know is that facebook, twitter and Instagram is not news. It is not the news -- it is the public opinion that vested interest groups are manipulating in Facebook, Twitter, and other social media. So, yes, media still affect you. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 (edited) Propaganda groups are using social media to broadcast fake news and commentaries to manipulate public opinion. Always fact-check the info given to you through cyber media. Suggested fact-checking websites: HoaxSlayer.comTruthOrFiction.comSnopes.comOpenSecrets.orgPolitiFact.comFactCheck.org If you use other reliable fact-checking websites, please share them in this thread. Edited July 19, 2017 by camiar Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Mr. Ang said he is acquiring Inquirer in his personal capacity, meaning, not through SMC. I'm wondering whether the Prietos' are just temporarily handing over Inquirer to somebody else until the heat from the Duterte government passes over. Just like what Roberto Ongpin did with his PhilWeb gambling company. Apparently, Prieto earlier offered to sell the Inquirer to Manny Pangilinan, but MVP rejected it. He already owns Philippine Star, TV-5, and BusinessWorld. Ramon Ang and MVP are the new emerging oligarchs. Same pattern in their strategy. Create a political and socio-economic environment favorable to their interests by controlling the media. Quote Link to comment
jopoc Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) http://m.philstar.com/314191/show/09bf188d1a133748761f79d886c71d32/? Yun naman pala. May mga trollsMay mga uto-utrolls Edited July 24, 2017 by jopoc Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 http://m.philstar.com/314191/show/09bf188d1a133748761f79d886c71d32/? Yun naman pala. May mga trollsMay mga uto-utrollsWere you surprised? I'm surprised that you are. The yellow media has been doing exactly the same thing for the past decades using both the mainstream and social media to vilify Erap, GMA, Binay, Villar,...etc. Even in this forum, the yellow troll army are active, especially during the election campaign period. Right after elections, nawala bigla; pero me ilan pang natitira. Alam mo naman kung sino yung mga yellow trolls dito. Don't tell me you didn't notice? Duterte's supporters also know how to play the game, so what's the problem if they beat the yellow media and trolls in their own game? Php 10 million? Wala yan sa ginastos at ginagastos pa ng mga oligarchs and yellow vested interest groups for their own propaganda. You know why Duterte's supporters are prevailing now? Because the people finally realized how the LP and the oligarch-supported Abnoy administration has betrayed them. 1 Quote Link to comment
JFK Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Were you surprised? I'm surprised that you are. The yellow media has been doing exactly the same thing for the past decades using both the mainstream and social media to vilify Erap, GMA, Binay, Villar,...etc. Even in this forum, the yellow troll army are active, especially during the election campaign period. Right after elections, nawala bigla; pero me ilan pang natitira. Alam mo naman kung sino yung mga yellow trolls dito. Don't tell me you didn't notice? Duterte's supporters also know how to play the game, so what's the problem if they beat the yellow media and trolls in their own game? Php 10 million? Wala yan sa ginastos at ginagastos pa ng mga oligarchs and yellow vested interest groups for their own propaganda. You know why Duterte's supporters are prevailing now? Because the people finally realized how the LP and the oligarch-supported Abnoy administration has betrayed them.Agree ako dito sa sinabi mo. Quote Link to comment
jopoc Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Were you surprised? I'm surprised that you are. The yellow media has been doing exactly the same thing for the past decades using both the mainstream and social media to vilify Erap, GMA, Binay, Villar,...etc. Even in this forum, the yellow troll army are active, especially during the election campaign period. Right after elections, nawala bigla; pero me ilan pang natitira. Alam mo naman kung sino yung mga yellow trolls dito. Don't tell me you didn't notice? Duterte's supporters also know how to play the game, so what's the problem if they beat the yellow media and trolls in their own game? Php 10 million? Wala yan sa ginastos at ginagastos pa ng mga oligarchs and yellow vested interest groups for their own propaganda. You know why Duterte's supporters are prevailing now? Because the people finally realized how the LP and the oligarch-supported Abnoy administration has betrayed them. so basically you are saying that duterte is no different from the yellows when it comes to substance, he is just of a different form...... i agree Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 (edited) so basically you are saying that duterte is no different from the yellows when it comes to substance, he is just of a different form...... No, that's not what I'm saying. Did I say anything about Duterte? Read again: "...The yellow media has been doing exactly the same thing for the past decades using both the mainstream and social media to vilify Erap, GMA, Binay, Villar,...etc. Even in this forum, the yellow troll army are active, especially during the election campaign period. Right after elections, nawala bigla; pero me ilan pang natitira. Alam mo naman kung sino yung mga yellow trolls dito. Don't tell me you didn't notice? Duterte's supporters also know how to play the game, so what's the problem if they beat the yellow media and trolls in their own game? Php 10 million? Wala yan sa ginastos at ginagastos pa ng mga oligarchs and yellow vested interest groups for their own propaganda ..." I'm saying Duterte supporters' social media group is better at the game compared to oligarch-paid yellow troll army. Edited July 26, 2017 by camiar Quote Link to comment
mydnyt_man Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Because they dispense the truth, well most of it anyway, and they do answer most allegations against them, as compared to the yellowtards, hence their supremacy over them. Quote Link to comment
jopoc Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 Because they dispense the truth, well most of it anyway, and they do answer most allegations against them, as compared to the yellowtards, hence their supremacy over them. who dispense the truth, si Mocha? LOL No, that's not what I'm saying. Did I say anything about Duterte? Read again: "...The yellow media has been doing exactly the same thing for the past decades using both the mainstream and social media to vilify Erap, GMA, Binay, Villar,...etc. Even in this forum, the yellow troll army are active, especially during the election campaign period. Right after elections, nawala bigla; pero me ilan pang natitira. Alam mo naman kung sino yung mga yellow trolls dito. Don't tell me you didn't notice? Duterte's supporters also know how to play the game, so what's the problem if they beat the yellow media and trolls in their own game? Php 10 million? Wala yan sa ginastos at ginagastos pa ng mga oligarchs and yellow vested interest groups for their own propaganda ..." I'm saying Duterte supporters' social media group is better at the game compared to oligarch-paid yellow troll army. exactly my point... you are saying that they do the same shiyet...they are the same shiyet.... only in a different color.... Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 who dispense the truth, si Mocha? LOL exactly my point... you are saying that they do the same shiyet...they are the same shiyet.... only in a different color.... We'll, that's one point of view, especially if you're one of the detractors. But, if let's say Binay won as President, I wouldn't mind nor will I be surprised if he employs the same tactic in social media to counteract the negative propaganda of yellow trolls. It's all about winning the hearts and minds of your constituents to prevent their opinions from being swayed by your opposition. Quote Link to comment
jopoc Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 We'll, that's one point of view, especially if you're one of the detractors. But, if let's say Binay won as President, I wouldn't mind nor will I be surprised if he employs the same tactic in social media to counteract the negative propaganda of yellow trolls. It's all about winning the hearts and minds of your constituents to prevent their opinions from being swayed by your opposition. yup... you are right... for the detractors they see Digong as just one of the old ones... same shiyet different colorfor the blind followers, they are like flies who see digong as a different shiyet making him a yummy treat for them Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 yup... you are right... for the detractors they see Digong as just one of the old ones... same shiyet different colorfor the blind followers, they are like flies who see digong as a different shiyet making him a yummy treat for them So if Binay, your candidate (and mine, too), won and used the same social media tactics as the yellow trolls to counter the propaganda against his administration, you will consider him the same shiyet, too? Wouldn't that be naive? Quote Link to comment
jopoc Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 So if Binay, your candidate (and mine, too), won and used the same social media tactics as the yellow trolls to counter the propaganda against his administration, you will consider him the same shiyet, too? Wouldn't that be naive? i would consider him another kind of shiyet.... they all are. Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 i would consider him another kind of shiyet.... they all are. Binay would be called the black shiyet. True lahat naman sila may dumi, you just pick who will be better for the country. Quote Link to comment
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