Larry Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 I would go with Namor any day of the week just because he's badass. rdaq is correct from wikipedia: "Namor possesses a fully amphibious physiology suited for extreme undersea pressures, superhuman strength, speed, stamina, endurance and durability, flight, telepathic control over marine life, electrical powers, slowed aging." now this plus the fact that Namor has gone toe to toe with Marvel powerhouses like The Hulk and Thing and has even taken on entire teams (Avengers, Fantastic Four) translates into total ownage of Aquaman. Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 just to make things interesting: Aquaman's powers http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/thumb/5/51/Aquaman_004.jpg/200px-Aquaman_004.jpg Amphibious Physiological Adaptation: his body is specially developed for underwater conditions, granting him specialized blood circulation to withstand freezing temperatures and highly developed vision to see clearly even in murky ocean depths. This hybrid physiology means he can survive indefinitely underwater or on land (though he would still need occasional contact with water to survive)this length can be prolonged by the humidity in the air. He also possesses superhuman levels of strength, speed, endurance and durability, all by-products of his body being adapted to survive unprotected in the tremendous pressures of the ocean depths. Although other Atlanteans possess similar adaptations, Aquaman is super-Atlantean as well as super-human, and as such he has greater physical capabilities than does a typical Atlantean. Superhuman Strength Aquaman frequently displays feats of Super-Atlantian (the average Atlantian can lift/press approximately 2tons) and SuperHuman strength. While not on par with SuperMan or Captain Marvel, he has proven capable of performing standing high jumps of 4 stories (both on land and from water), lifting and throwing the cannon and turrent from a tank (approx 13 tons), and has held his own in hand to hand combat with Wonder Woman. 'Superhuman Speed': said to be the fastest thing underwater, he is capable of swimming at a consistent speed of 150 knots (175mph) for several hours. Aquaman can travel at much faster speeds for short "sprints." In the pilot episode of "Mercy Reef" he is shown swimming fast enough to catch a fighter jet flying patrol overhead (fighter jets on patrol typically fly between 240-400mph) Superhuman Endurance Superhuman Durability Superhuman Senses Like most Atlanteans, Aquaman's sense of sight, smell and hearing several times more acute than human capacity. His ability to see in the murky depths of the ocean allows him acceptional night vision while on land. Marine Telepathy: Aquaman has a form of telepathy which works particularly well on other aquatic life. This is related to the universal force known as the Clear. Echo Location: Aquaman has highly enhanced senses, most notably a natural form of sonar. Energy-Heat Resistance: Aquaman is extremely resistant to energy/heat based attacks as he has with stood multiple blasts from Amazo's heat vision, Black Mantas heat beams, and energy blasts from an Omac. Waterbearer Hand Molecular Manipulation: Aquaman can alter the shape and density of the hand. Healing: It possesses healing properties. Farsight: Can be used as a scrying pool. Negate Magic: Can negate other magics. Prolong Adaptation: Significantly increases the time Aquaman can spend out of water. Independent Life: The hand can be separated from Aquaman and continue to work. Cybernetic Hand (formally) Harpoon: normally had a harpoon attached to a retractable line that he can use to fire at ranged targets. Cybernetic Weapon Alteration: Can be altered to form weapons Limitations: Aquaman must return to water after a period of time or he will weaken. Overuse of the Waterbearer Hand for violent means will cause the Thirst to attack the Secret Sea. AbilitiesAquaman is an excellent swimmer, tactician, politician and monarch. He is a surprisingly formidable hand to hand combatant as well. Strength levelAn approximation of Aquaman's strength would put his lifting/pressing capacity somewhere between 30 and 50 tons while on land, depending on how long he has been out of water. While underwater, Aquaman has been observed to possess even greater strength, putting his underwater-strength level somewhere in the 50 - 75 ton range. Namor's Powers http://images.wikia.com/marveldatabase/images/thumb/d/dd/Namor_008.jpg/300px-Namor_008.jpg Human/Atlantean Physiology: Namor's powers come from his being a unique hybrid of Atlantean homo mermanus and mutant homo superior physiologies. Because of his unusual genetic heritage, Namor is unique among both ordinary humans and Atlanteans; he is sometimes referred to as "Marvel's first mutant," because, while the majority of his observed superhuman powers come from the fact that he's a hybrid of Human and Atlantean DNA, his ability to fly can't be explained by either side. (Atlanteans are an off-shoot of "baseline" humanity.) Amphibious Physiological Adaptation: his body is specially developed for underwater conditions, granting him specialized blood circulation to withstand freezing temperatures and highly developed vision to see clearly even in murky ocean depths. This hybrid physiology means he can survive indefinitely underwater or on land (though he would still need occasional contact with water to survive). Superhuman Strength Superhuman Stamina: ability to sustain peak exertion for up to a day. Superhuman Durability: skin, bone and muscle augmented to make it stronger and harder than human; impervious to injury to an extraordinary extent. Making him fairly invulnerable. Aquatic Healing: Being placed in water drastically reduces the time needed for Namor to recover from injuries or to regain consciousness. Longevity: Atlantean DNA retards his aging to a great degree. Water-Breathing: Unlike Atlanteans, who have gills, Namor breathes with his lungs like a human, though his lungs contain special alveoli that extract oxygen from water, so Namor can also breathe underwater. Superhuman Agility: ability to move his body significantly beyond the natural limits of human body. Superhuman Reflexes: possesses a reaction time that is virtually instantaneous. Superhuman Swimming Speed: a maximum swimming speed of roughly sixty miles per hour. He is able to create small whirlpools with his speed in water. Aquatic Telepathy: possesses a telepathic rapport with many, but not all, forms of marine life. Flight: Namor also possesses vestigial "wings" on both of his ankles, by which he seems to fly. Since the "wings" by themselves could never carry Namor, it has been speculated that he uses the wings for steering and flies in some other manner, perhaps by telekinesis. Animal Mimicry (Aquatic Life): The Sub-Mariner has demonstrated the ability to mimic the characteristics of various undersea creators. Sonar: Namor has a natural form of sonar. Lateral Lines: Namor can detect subtle movement or vibrations around him, particularly underwater. Bio-Electricity: Namor can discharge bioelectricity similar to an electric eel, but seldom uses it. He seems to be able to absorb certain energies and convert them into bioelectricity; blasts similar to his own such as from the Wasp seem easiest to absorb. It is unknown if he needs to absorb energy from outside sources or if he can naturally produce a charge. AbilitiesNone known. Strength levelPossesses a high level of superhuman strength, enabling him to lift/press at least 85 tons while in contact with water, though he has been dipictated lifting much more than this. Throughout Namor's adventures in various comics, he has been observed to be one of the strongest beings walking the earth and swimming the seas; his strength level gradually decreases according to the length of time he is out of water. After several hours without water, his lifting/pressing ability drops to approx. 60tons. After five or six days without water, and near death, Namor has still been observed to possess a slightly superhuman pressing/lifting capacity of one or two tons. Quote Link to comment
fry_saging Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Regarding the batman vs. daredevil vs. steve rogers thing. Bats would eventually kick Murdocks ass. The guy is blind for christ sake even with hightened senses. You put a blind guy with a guy who defeated superman. No contest. As for Capt. America vs Batman. I give this one to the captain.. " Jack Kirbys' super soldier vs. Bob Kanes detective. One is train to fight the other to solve crimes. Quote Link to comment
orionpax Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 (edited) hehe ..another example is Lobo vs Logan (Wolverine).... Geez Lobo is a super metahuman like Supes......and he lost? grrr...fans... exactly why inter company crossovers don't work, it's all decided by the fans when I say written properly I mean that the writers take into account all the personality traits, powers etc., of the character before writing a crossover, and not have it decided by fans. Edited July 12, 2007 by orionpax Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 hehe ..another example is Lobo vs Logan (Wolverine).... exa-f*cking-actly Quote Link to comment
orionpax Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 (edited) kahit Adamantium laced pa si Logan...pitikin lang ni Lobo yun eh Edited July 12, 2007 by orionpax Quote Link to comment
_eRon_ Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 nice article on namor vs aquaman..in terms of their core abilities dun sa article, parang equal lang ang laban pero sa extra abilities (based dun sa article ah), lamang si aquaman..feeling ko draw ang laban na to, they are mirror images of each other, pareho silang astig na superheroes .. wolverine kicked lobo's ass? tlga? bka hinde sineryoso ni lobo yun laban hehehe .. cap vs the bat? hmm, lamang si cap pero kaya ni bats yun, si superman nga nsabayan nya si cap (prang si bong revilla eh hehe ) pa kaya di ba?hehe.. Quote Link to comment
andrean48 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Enough about the Male Superheroes!!!! how about the girls??????? Lets say: Wonderwoman vs Jean Grey / Phoenix???? Im really undecided on this one. But it seems the Phoenix would win. Quote Link to comment
andrean48 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Just another additional on the male superheroes. Colossus vs Hulk vs Juggernout???? All have superpowers. But I think Hulk would win on this one. He grows bigger a he gets angrier. Im not really familiar with Colossus' strength except that I know the he is really strong. About Juggernout I think Hulk would be able to stop his momentum. Quote Link to comment
rdaq97 Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 Enough about the Male Superheroes!!!! how about the girls???????Lets say: Wonderwoman vs Jean Grey / Phoenix???? Im really undecided on this one. But it seems the Phoenix would win. Fist fight lang? Wonder Woman will kick the living s@%t out of Jean Grey. Pero full usage of powers, Wonder Woman will probably need the whole JLA to take down Jean Grey in Phoenix Mode. If Jean's in her normal Marvel Girl mode, then I'd still give it to Wonder Woman for pure power. The woman is a freakin' Amazon. Without the Phoenix entity, Jean Grey is nothing compared to Wonder Woman. Just another additional on the male superheroes. Colossus vs Hulk vs Juggernout???? All have superpowers. But I think Hulk would win on this one. He grows bigger a he gets angrier. Im not really familiar with Colossus' strength except that I know the he is really strong. About Juggernout I think Hulk would be able to stop his momentum. Colossus is at the wrong end of this trio. He will be ripped to shreds. Hulk wins this hands down. Quote Link to comment
_eRon_ Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 wonder woman vs jean grey -> winner: wonder woman wonder woman vs phoenix -> winner: phoenix colossus vs hulk vs juggernaut -> winner: hulk*i think this matchup should be superman vs hulk, superman has a better chance of matching up against hulk ..that matchup could even reach the heights of superman vs doomsday, katakot kasi ang potential for excalation ng super strength ni hulk, parang limitless.. if superman vs. hulk -> no winner, superman will have a very hard time but it would be a draw Quote Link to comment
denimhead Posted July 12, 2007 Share Posted July 12, 2007 what you don't like chuck taylors? i was talking about the hair Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 (edited) Wonderwoman vs Jean Grey / Phoenix???? Im really undecided on this one. But it seems the Phoenix would win. no contest Jean Grey would turn WW's mind to mush. Phoenix would destroy her utterly. Colossus vs Hulk vs Juggernout???? Hulk is the strongest of them all. He can take both at the same time and not break a sweat. feeling ko draw ang laban na to, they are mirror images of each other, pareho silang astig na superheroes uhm not exactly. the similarities end with being amphibious and having superhuman strength and speed. but as far as everything else is concerned. Namor takes this one easily. Namor is stronger. He can lift 80 - 100 tons fully recharged and out of the water. 50 tons when he's out of water for a period of time. Aquaman can lift 70 max fully recharged, and only 20 when he's weakened. To give you an idea lifting 70 - 100 is equivalent to collosus' strength level according to the Marvel encyclopedia IIRC. Namor has almost instanteneous reflexes. Namor can fly. Plus Namor is a mean motherf*cker. Without the Phoenix entity, Jean Grey is nothing compared to Wonder Woman. Jean Grey has the 2nd most powerful mind in the MU, and as far as I know WW can't defend against telekinesis (as in using it to cause her skull to cave in her brain), but in a fist fight yes Jean Grey would be dead again. Edited July 13, 2007 by Larry Quote Link to comment
orionpax Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 For DC /Marvel Match ups...what if... Professor X vs Martian Manhunter? Mr. Fantastic vs Plastic Man? Cyborg Vs Cable? Deadshot vs Bullseye? Captain Mar-Vell vs Captain Marvel (Shazam)? Amazo vs Vision? Wonder Man vs Solomon Grundy Thanos va Darkseid? Hawkman vs The Falcon? Hawkeye vs Green Arrow? Orion vs BlackBolt? Karate Kid vs Karnak? The Spectre vs The Living Tribunal? The Atom vs Antman/Giantman? Doctor Doom vs Lex Luthor? Taskmaster vs Batgirl (Cassandra Cain) ? Firestorm vs Human Torch? Doctor Fate vs Doctor Strange? Iron Man vs Stripesy? The Black Knight vs Shining Knight? Wonder Woman vs Brunhilde the Valkyrie? DeathStroke vs Deadpool? Quote Link to comment
Larry Posted July 13, 2007 Share Posted July 13, 2007 Professor X vs Martian Manhunter? professor X takes this, even if J'onn is actually a green superman, Xavier is a more powerful telepath. He can make MM think he's on fire, or just erase his brain. Cyborg Vs Cable? cable via telekinesis Thanos va Darkseid? thanos has the gauntlet so no contest. A better matchup would be Apocalypse vs. Darkseid Orion vs BlackBolt? although orion is a tough one, all blackbolt needs to do is clinch and scream into orion's ear. Doctor Doom vs Lex Luthor? Doom by anything he wants. Taskmaster vs Batgirl (Cassandra Cain) ? Taskmaster via rape. Taskmaster owned wolverine when they first went at it, Batgirl is no Logan by any stretch of the imagination. DeathStroke vs Deadpool? Deadpool via Deathstroke's suicide brought about by Deadpools mile a minute mouth. Deadshot vs Bullseye? Bullseye. stronger, faster, more accurate and can work with anything that can be used as a projectile, plus he has Olympic level hand to hand skills. Quote Link to comment
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