tk421 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/960622/palace-disputes-carpio-position-on-ph-rise?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#link_time=1516060535 Closing a legit news outfit due to being allegedly foreign-owned, yet selling an entire territory to a foreign entity. Ironic. Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 https://news.mb.com.ph/2018/01/17/chinas-research-in-benham-rise-has-presidential-blessing-roque/ Soon to rise: Chinese island in benham rise. Quote Link to comment
juan t Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/960622/palace-disputes-carpio-position-on-ph-rise?utm_campaign=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#link_time=1516060535 Closing a legit news outfit due to being allegedly foreign-owned, yet selling an entire territory to a foreign entity. Ironic. Is this the same guy who wants China to be our 3rd telco provider? Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Mas masahol pa yun. Buong telecom network, ibibigay mo sa foreign company. Eh rappler media company lang. Eto yun bawat secrets niyo pwede ma intercept na. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) Mas masahol pa yun. Buong telecom network, ibibigay mo sa foreign company. Eh rappler media company lang. Eto yun bawat secrets niyo pwede ma intercept na. Parang pinalalabas mo, ngayon lang mangyayari yan dahil kay Duterte.... Globe Telecom is controlled by a foreign country -- through Singapore's SingTel. PLDT is controlled by a foreign country -- through Indonesia's Salim Group The new player, Philippine Telephone & Telegraph (PT&T) - is sourcing a Chinese partner. Anong ibibigay sa foreign country ang inerereklamo mo na hindi pa nagawa noon? Edited January 18, 2018 by camiar Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Wait... so ok lang pala na critical infra controlled ng foreign player? Pero media bawal? Wow... Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 (edited) Wait... so ok lang pala na critical infra controlled ng foreign player? Pero media bawal? Wow... Pa ammend mo yung constitution kasi nakalagay dyan kung ilang % ang ownership sa mga companies pero sa media THE 1987 CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES ...www.officialgazette.gov.ph/constitutions/...constitution...philippines/the-1987-constit...Section 11. (1) The ownership and management of mass media shall be limited to citizens of the Philippines, or to corporations, cooperatives or associations, wholly-owned and managed by such citizens. The Congress shall regulate or prohibit monopolies in commercial mass media when the public interest so requires. Edited January 18, 2018 by haroots2 Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) So are you a champion of the constitution now? As far as I know Rappler was 100% Filipino owned, otherwise it wouldn't have been given license to operate before. Edited January 19, 2018 by tk421 Quote Link to comment
haroots2 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 So are you a champion of the constitution now? As far as I know Rappler was 100% Filipino owned, otherwise it wouldn't have been given license to operate before. You don't need to be a champion of the constitution to know simple facts.They started small so no PDRs yet which means no foreign investment yet when they got the license. That question really how far do you really know. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Granted your argument is correct ... So haroots are you saying that media companies should not issue pdr coz it is illegal? Pls enlighten us with ur knowledge Quote Link to comment
Bolj Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 You don't need to be a champion of the constitution to know simple facts.They started small so no PDRs yet which means no foreign investment yet when they got the license. That question really how far do you really know.CPAs have a good understanding about the issue also, although rappler can defend this issue its up to the courts really if they will be favored. The bad part is they have a case far worst than this one. And thats about the more classified information they have thrown out the public Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I think off topic na pagusapan pdr issue ng rappler dito. So i deleted my reply haroots and moved it to the duterte thread. Dun na lang natin ni tk ituloy ang paguusap. Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 So regarding Benham rise, payag naman agad ang DutS Admin nun sinabi ng China we dont own it daw. Not our territory daw just exclusive rights to exploit. Pero pagdating sa WPS, territory daw nila. Ano ba~! Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 China: what is mine is mine. What is yours, we share. Duterte Admin: Ok. Me: What the ef?! Quote Link to comment
Maykeee Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 The greatest concern re: China is their continuous building of military facilities in the artificial islands they built in South China Sea including the West Philippine Sea. Sa oras na mafully-equipped ang mga ito ng weapons and military forces, wala na tayong magagawa at wala naman talagang may ginagawa to challenge China. Dahil kakampi ng China ang Russia, (another superpower, nuclear power and permanent member of the UN Security Council), cant afford ang US to have a military confrontation with China re: their South China Sea expansion. Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 I have a lot of scientists and geologists in my fb feed. And they pretty much say the same thing: Malacanang’s excuse that we need China to explore Benham rise is complete BS. Our scientists are more than qualified to do research there on their own. The problem is equipment procurement: not even the cost or rental of equipment themselves, but the bureaucracy to have these equipment delivered to the Philippines. Long story short: mas interesado perahan ng gobyerno ang pag procure ng equipment kaysa pakinabangan natin ang research na gagawin ng mga scientists natin. Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Nakakapagtaka kung may alam nga ba sa geography ang admin ngayon, di lang mayon volcano ang na relocate sa naga. Pati spratly’s at benham rise na relocate sa china. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 kung hindi ba naman sila tanga eh may mga local companies na may kakayahan na mag conduct ng exploration sa benham rise. Pxp energy at philodrill. Saya ng palusot nila para lang pagbigyan ang bff ni dutae na china. Sana lang hindi totoo ang iniisip ko na binigay na ni dutae ang benham sa china kapalit ng pagiging buddy buddy niya dito. So much for independent foreign policy. Lolbelieve me hindi tanga ang mga yan .... nanggagagago oo...lantaran pa nga! ang mga tanga ay yun mga uto-utong basta na lang naniniwala sa mga pinagsasabi nito .... madami yan initial estimate there are probably 16m of them maaring nabawasan ng konti pero nadagdagan din ng mga bagong sanib na kumampi dati sa mga talunang na hindi maka-dilawan. Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted January 27, 2018 Share Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) Nag ku kunwaring mga patriots ang mga tao pero itong sovereign lands natin pag inaagaw ang retort nila: eh ikaw nga pag sinali ka sa giyera laban China aayaw ka. Good Lord kung ganyan ang pag iisip nyo na kelangan yun kasagutan mo ang i cha challenge mo ng ganyan imbes na tinatanong mo sa sarili yan bakit mas importante sa iyo na barahin yun kasagutan mo imbes na ipag laban ang teritoryo mo, eh mas duwag ka. At least yun umaangal sa gawain ng Tsina sa teritoryo ng Pilipinas kahit salita nakikipaglaban eh kayo hindi niyo lang hinahayaan, dinidepensahan niyo pa ang magnanakaw. Kesyo mamamatay lang mga sundalo natin o hindi natin kakayanin makipag giyera, etc. Either duwag kayo o makasarili lang talaga pag iisip niyo. Edited January 27, 2018 by tk421 Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 Kasi he’s a certified true liar. He doesn’t love this country. He loves being in power. Pusta tayo if ever in the most remote scenerio na sakupin ng China ang mainland, si Duterte will be the first one to turn his backs on us and will want to become China’s puppet president. Treachery runs in his heart. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 How America is losing the battle for the South China SeaSome optimists have pointed to small developments—such as China this year permitting Filipino and Vietnamese fishing around Scarborough Shoal for the first time since 2012—as encouraging signs that the Hague’s ruling is having a positive effect on the South China Sea.Most observers see it much differently. With the U.S. government focused on North Korea, China this summer has made substantial progress in further establishing de facto control over most of the South China Sea.Aside from an uptick in U.S. Navy freedom-of-navigation operations in the South China Sea, the administration seems uninterested in reinforcing international law.read the complete article:http://nationalinterest.org/feature/how-america-losing-the-battle-the-south-china-sea-22522?page=show Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Salamat Duterte at halos makumpleto na ang structure ng China sa South China Sea.The structures were there already before Duterte was elected as President. The past president stood by while the structures were being built. He was not able to do anything. Even the World Power USA was not able to do anything to stop the construction. If all the leaders in the past were no able to stop it, what do you suggest we do now? Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 In the past we at least filed diplomatic protests. This one is just handling it over without a fight. What does it do? It prevents China's actions from being legitimate even if we are not able to stop it from occurring. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 In the past we at least filed diplomatic protests. This one is just handling it over without a fight. What does it do? It prevents China's actions from being legitimate even if we are not able to stop it from occurring.That's precisely what we're doing now. Aren't we? Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 That's precisely what we're doing now. Aren't we? Not now in Duterte's time as far as I know. Quote Link to comment
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