Calvin Chua Posted July 25, 2018 Share Posted July 25, 2018 Sana lang dito gamitin ni Tatay ang tapang nya against sa pananakop ng China sa Teritotyo natin. Pinangako nya magjejetski pa sya nun. Hindi ito ang inaasahan. 1 Quote Link to comment
jopoc Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Have you been following what Vietnam has been doing? They are facing China on their own. Without ASEAN's help. Without USA's help. But they have a credible military clout to back up their stand. Darating din tayo dyan. It will come when you yourself has come to believe that we are strong enough to face them on our own. It's up to you. only that vietnam has never allowed china to build any island in its claimed territory from day 1.unlike us, we are allowing the building of bases and communities in our claimed territory by the time we are "ready" for them, they will be much much more ready that us. you think vietnam's military (even if better than ours) can win against china? Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 For Duterte and the DDS, the only way to solve this is either to let China do what it wants in the WPS freely... or go to war. For them, there's no middle ground (diplomacy). ...and regarding their silent protest? Is that like cursing under your breath? Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 only that vietnam has never allowed china to build any island in its claimed territory from day 1.unlike us, we are allowing the building of bases and communities in our claimed territory by the time we are "ready" for them, they will be much much more ready that us. you think vietnam's military (even if better than ours) can win against china? My post that you quoted speaks for itself. Each move the Philippines and Vietnam make are calculated moves, taking into consideration the fact that neither country can ever hope to win a shooting war vs. China. But based on history, we will reach a point in the future where we can shake off their dominance over us. Neither Is the Philippines "allowing" China to build bases in contested territories. China does it because it can, not because it was allowed to. I'm surprised that you, as a lawyer, cannot grasp the concept that a victim does not have to "allow" the perpetrator to commit his crime. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 only that vietnam has never allowed china to build any island in its claimed territory from day 1. Fact check: China seized Woody Island and Duncan Island in the Paracels from Vietnam. The two islands have been vastly expanded through reclamation and now have airports capable of handling long range fighters and bombers. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 For Duterte and the DDS, the only way to solve this is either to let China do what it wants in the WPS freely... or go to war. For them, there's no middle ground (diplomacy). ...and regarding their silent protest? Is that like cursing under your breath?Silent Protest? Cursing under your breath? You're clueless on diplomacy and bilateral relations. Diplomatic Protest is a strong action when it comes to bilateral relationship between countries. It follows diplomatic protocol, giving notice of your complaint without harsh or angry words. It is a hundred times more effective in getting the other party to respond positively than staging a noisy rally outside the embassy. Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 (edited) So... are you saying Im right that the Duterte admin doesnt know anything about diplomacy? Because the examples below did not follow diplomatic protocol and they were given with he harshest words and with seething anger. It follows diplomatic protocol, giving notice of your complaint without harsh or angry words.duterte to obama: "p ina I will swear at you,"duterte to UN special rapporteur Callamard T niya, sabihin mo. Huwag niya ako takutin. P- niya. G pala siya eh,Pope --ina ka, umuwi ka na. Wag ka nang magbisita dito.Ok, the last one wih the pope is still in the gray area since he was not even a president at the time. But still, it shows how his kind of diplomacy (or lack of it) works. So ano ang protocols sa SEA diplomacy? Kung meron man silang na file na protest, asan ang mga paper trails? Kasi without visible paper trails (diplomatic protocol, sabi mo) para saan pa ang protesta mo? Parang bumubulong ka lang sa sarili mo. O di kaya imaginary protest lang yun ginagawa nila kasi wala naman ibang witness. Parang yun sources mo lang... imaginary kasi ikaw lang ang nakaka alam. Edited August 1, 2018 by tk421 Quote Link to comment
Calvin Chua Posted August 1, 2018 Share Posted August 1, 2018 The Chinese are now building a full military facility within our property. I know the Jetski is a just a joke but this isnt what i was expecting. This is our property. Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted August 2, 2018 Share Posted August 2, 2018 The Chinese are now building a full military facility within our property. I know the Jetski is a just a joke but this isnt what i was expecting. This is our property. well yup isang campaign stunt / joke lng yung jetski ni PDUTS bkit nga ba humantong sa ganitong sitwasyon ang WPS bawal ang manisi hahaha Quote Link to comment
flatwall Posted August 3, 2018 Share Posted August 3, 2018 For the meantime yng economic purpose muna pra patuloy ang pg Lago ng ekomiya pra mbawasn ang Un employment. Quote Link to comment
jimithing Posted August 17, 2018 Share Posted August 17, 2018 Duterte slams China's 'nasty words' to PHL pilotshttp://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/664558/duterte-slams-china-s-nasty-words-to-phl-pilots/story/ ngayon bumaliktad? Quote Link to comment
tk421 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Na corner na sya kasi. Kung hindi naging public yun radio exchanges nun PH aircraft at yun Chinese radioman, siguro tahimik pa din yan hanggang ngayon. Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 (edited) The Chinese are now building a full military facility within our property. I know the Jetski is a just a joke but this isnt what i was expecting. This is our property.The contested area IS NOT our property. Not yet. We claim it as our Exclusive Economic Zone. We're supposed to have exclusive rights in exploiting the area for economic purposes, according to UNCLOS. But neither China nor USA is signatory to it. Moreover, we have overlapping claims with our neighboring countries such as Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan and China. China is not even considering the contested areas as their EEZ. They have redrawn their borders and claim that the entire South China Sea is their Sovereign Territory. Until we have settled the ovelapping issues, diplomatically or militarily, with our contesting neighbors, it's just empty words to say that it is our property. Let's build our military capability to defend our sovereignty. Only then can we replace empty words with real muscle. Edited August 18, 2018 by camiar Quote Link to comment
flatwall Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 Hayaan n lng c Digong mg decide tngkl dyn 1 Quote Link to comment
Soraoi_empire Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Wala na ba latest news about WPS? Quote Link to comment
akosiJP Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 (edited) Sad to say kahit anong gawin natin di na yan mababawi. Imagine nalaman na lang natin nung nag bubuild na sila sa palagay ko kapwa din natin may kinalaman dyan kong bakit nakuha yan. Kaya kahit ano pa gawin ng president o ng gobyerno Wala na sila magagawa nakaka-lungkot lang.Agree. Kung di na talaga mabawi, kahit hati na lang sa kung ano man makukuhang resources dun. Edited March 9, 2019 by akosiJP Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Sad to say kahit anong gawin natin di na yan mababawi. Imagine nalaman na lang natin nung nag bubuild na sila sa palagay ko kapwa din natin may kinalaman dyan kong bakit nakuha yan. Kaya kahit ano pa gawin ng president o ng gobyerno Wala na sila magagawa nakaka-lungkot lang. Agree. Kung di na talaga mabawi, kahit hati na lang sa kung ano man makukuhang resources dun. What we need to do is be steadfast in our sovereignty claim. We have legal basis based on UNCLOS agreement. We have the Arbitral Court ruling in our favor. The only problem at present is that we are not yet strong enough to enforce it. So in the meantime, we take the pragmatic approach. We use diplomacy, friendly foreign relations, and spirit of cooperation and sharing. At the same time we continue to build our strength to stand up on our own. We should rely on the USA or our neighbors to protect out own interest and sovereignty. Quote Link to comment
darksoulriver Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Only those in Malacanang alam kung ano talaga sitwasyon at kalagayan sa WPS kung ano napapanood sa TV at nababasa natin sa dyaryo may mas higit pang impormasyon ang hawak ni Du30 hawak nga natin yung rulling ang problema yung enforcing nito! pero hindi dapat natin pababayaan ang Pagasa Island. Quote Link to comment
rooster69ph Posted April 3, 2019 Share Posted April 3, 2019 di nga dapat pabayaan ang pagasa isaland ... so ano nga ba ang ginagawa ng pamahalaan dutae sa problema ng enforcement? kung wala eh di parang pinabayaan na rin natin in action di lang natin pinabayaan in words Quote Link to comment
bosorero Posted April 7, 2019 Share Posted April 7, 2019 Bakit ba kasi pi atalsik mga us bases Quote Link to comment
justin.challenger Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 It's a matter of pragmatic policy to let big Filipino fishing vessels fish all they want in the West Philippine Sea, deplete all fishing resources, and leave the Chinese with little resources to get... Let us just make sure that the crew of the big Philippine fishing ships are from the locales facing the WPS to make sure that they get economic benefits and income from those resources... Quote Link to comment
dungeonbaby Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 We better not yield on this latest incident. Regardless of who hit who, you don't abandon men in distress. https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/697458/chinese-vessel-hits-philippine-boat-in-recto-bank-leaves-after-collision/story/ 1 Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 We better not yield on this latest incident. Regardless of who hit who, you don't abandon men in distress. https://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/nation/697458/chinese-vessel-hits-philippine-boat-in-recto-bank-leaves-after-collision/story/ It gives us justification to increase our offshore patrols to help protect or provide aid to Filipino fishermen in distress. Quote Link to comment
heatseeker0714 Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 Popcorn... Friends daw natin sila eh... Ginawa na dati ni Playstation yan eh... from 2010-2012 uber friendly din with China... Pumunta pa don, highlighted pa ng Chinese government that he has Chinese blood... Then Scarborough Shoal happened... Command & Conquer Red Alert realized they can't be trusted kaya ayun, tumakbo na sa PCA... Tapos wala daw ginawa si Panot sabi ni Manyak... Ano daw ba ginawa ni Coke nung nanalo sa PCA sabi ni Finger-The-Maid-Mayor... eh July 12, 2016 na lumabas yung decision ng PCA, si Mayor na tenant ng Malacanang nun... Minsan talaga matatawa ka na lang sa effect ng Fentanyl eh... Like I said, Popcorn na lang muna... Quote Link to comment
camiar Posted June 13, 2019 Share Posted June 13, 2019 (edited) Ang mapipikon, talo. Put our naval and air assets to good use. Continue to build more, acquire more, until we can credibly show that we will stand up to them even if they are stronger.. Calma lang. Wala nang sisihan. Don't get mad. Get even. We calibrate our response to get even according to how much we can get away with. Any braggadocio talk on how we should stop being subservient and should fight back are nothing but empty childish talk. Edited June 13, 2019 by camiar 1 Quote Link to comment
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