Barangay Ginebra Kings

[dallas316]

balasahan na talaga toh!!!!

 

wahehehe 1-7 na ata hihihi

 

mukang hindi na effective maski ang home court advanatage hehehe

 

tsk tsk tsk

[martin_d_martian]

talo na naman, siguro naman hindi na nila pwede isisi sa import ang problema.

[rakizta]

di na talaga uubra line-up ng gin kings ngayon sa dami ng teams na nagpalakas taz wala naman

masyadong nanyari sa line-up nila an masasabing nagpalakas sa team

 

di na talaga uubra line-up ng gin kings ngayon sa dami ng teams na nagpalakas taz wala naman

masyadong nanyari sa line-up nila an masasabing nagpalakas sa team

[bluevodka]

at some point, yes maraming nagbago yet kaunti ang changes na nangyari sa Ginebra in terms of it's lineup however, sticking to one's lineup is an advantage then naman. i think nagkatalo lang talaga sa adjustments pag naglalaro na.

 

di na kailangang sisihin ang import, sino pa ba kakailanganin nilang import pag ganun?! they should need that same drive they've had nung nag-champion sila with Jong the first time.

[[TWO]RERO]

at some point, yes maraming nagbago yet kaunti ang changes na nangyari sa Ginebra in terms of it's lineup however, sticking to one's lineup is an advantage then naman. i think nagkatalo lang talaga sa adjustments pag naglalaro na.

 

di na kailangang sisihin ang import, sino pa ba kakailanganin nilang import pag ganun?! they should need that same drive they've had nung nag-champion sila with Jong the first time.

 

When they won the Championship for the first time with Jong, they have Siot as the asst. coach.. Ang rumor dati pa, si siot naghhanadle ng plays pag crucial na.. KABADO YAN SI JONG pag 4th quarter.

[pizzapandesal]

change the coach, coach na defense oriented, kahit c franz pumaren na lang, c franz ang pumalit kay jong para magchampion ang La Salle

[Agent_mulder]

Hindi ko talaga maintindihan ang nangyayari sa Ginebra in this conference. Admittedly, they are not as strong as the other teams pero sa tingin ko may ibubuga naman kahit paano ang current line-up nila (and they should not be mired in the bottom of the standings) at okay naman ang import nila. Noong previous game nila against tnt, napuna ko na, maganda ang ginagawa ni Artadi, dahil sa kanya nakahabol ang Ginebra pero ang ginawa ni jong inilabas si Artadi at pinalitan ni Helterbrand, kung sino 'yung nagpo-provide ng hussle and energy sa loob inilabas n'ya just to maybe not hurt Helterbrand's ego or what, si Caguiao naman malamig almost all-game long (until he caught fire noong 4th quarter) pero nasa loob pa din, sana ipinasok na lang muna n'ya si Tubid na maganda din ang dumepensa (lalo na kay Mac Cardona) o kaya si Pacana o Salvacion in lieu of the scoring/shooting woes of Caguiao. Kailangang ayusin ni jong ang rotation n'ya ng mga player at sana bigyan n'ya ng maayos na plays ang import nila. With the way they are playing, things are bleak for them in this conference..

[zaguuu]

plain and simple lamh problema palitan talaga ang coach, jong is not a coach dummy lang yan, nung sa DLSU yan si Ron jacobs ang nagbibigay ng PLAY, yes it's true nung bumaba si siot as asst to jong during their 2 championship si siot talaga ang tumatawag ng plays kasi kahit papano si siot nirerespeto ng player si jong puro taas ng pantalon nya ang ginagawa

[kLique]

Correct ka dyan pareng Klique....Coach Yeng now made us believe that winning basketball games can be done even without a single superstar in their roster....Just an all team effort, hussle plays, help defense, unselfish plays and believing with each other....I wouldnt be suprise if they play once again in the semifinals....Last conference they almost made it to the finals....

 

yep! no-nonsense basketball unlike now...

there are too many egos to satisfy

 

@^

and guess who Coach Yeng looks up to and wants to imitate?

 

Jawo's Ginebra Team

 

I wouldn't be surprised... the owner of RB and Jawo continue to be good friends to this date

and of course you'd expect Coach Yeng to consult with Mr. Chua regarding the style of the team

and mr. Chua is sure to ask Jawo... kumbaga friendly advise lang

 

change the coach, coach na defense oriented, kahit c franz pumaren na lang, c franz ang pumalit kay jong para magchampion ang La Salle

 

you mean BGK don't you?

[hothands]

Hindi ko talaga maintindihan ang nangyayari sa Ginebra in this conference. Admittedly, they are not as strong as the other teams pero sa tingin ko may ibubuga naman kahit paano ang current line-up nila (and they should not be mired in the bottom of the standings) at okay naman ang import nila. Noong previous game nila against tnt, napuna ko na, maganda ang ginagawa ni Artadi, dahil sa kanya nakahabol ang Ginebra pero ang ginawa ni jong inilabas si Artadi at pinalitan ni Helterbrand, kung sino 'yung nagpo-provide ng hussle and energy sa loob inilabas n'ya just to maybe not hurt Helterbrand's ego or what, si Caguiao naman malamig almost all-game long (until he caught fire noong 4th quarter) pero nasa loob pa din, sana ipinasok na lang muna n'ya si Tubid na maganda din ang dumepensa (lalo na kay Mac Cardona) o kaya si Pacana o Salvacion in lieu of the scoring/shooting woes of Caguiao. Kailangang ayusin ni jong ang rotation n'ya ng mga player at sana bigyan n'ya ng maayos na plays ang import nila. With the way they are playing, things are bleak for them in this conference..

 

 

this has been an issue kahit nung SMB days pa ni jong.. kung cno mainit, sya ung ilalabas at kung cno ung malas, sya ung babad.. sayang nga talaga ung habol nila last time.. pro sana, hindi nilabas c artadi.. they could have artadi, helterbrand and caguioa at the same time.. and ung time na un, medyo sira ung diskarte ng TNT.. well, la ng magagawa.. talagang sablay e..

 

@howard - talagang gusto mo si siot sa inyo ah.. ok lang, basta wag si ryan ung ilalagay sa amin..

[mix.boyz]

Its pity to see what's happening with BGK...

 

Same offense, same defense, same rotation and same results....Standing: Win - 1 Loss - nyahh i dont want to mention

 

Guys, did you notice Helterbrand's play? He is a dribble happy guy who will hog the ball the whole 15 seconds standing near the mid-court and rush it out on last second/s only to shoot or pass the ball....What a lousy play and a lousy guy....did he think he is Michael Jordan who can alway hit the last second shot...and i cant decipher how Coach Jong allowed that kind of play repeatedly considering the fact that they are struggling on offense in that quarter and down on points....

 

I dont want to single out JJ's hoggling of the ball...its also Mark d Spark who also made this kind of play....no offense play, no assists, just a simple dribble and shoot the ball with no rebounder....ang nakakainis dito pag malas si Spark at si JJ parang nahahawa ang lahat ng players....

 

Just my opnion and observation... peace

[kLique]

season is pretty much over for BGK... I do hope they (or at least their sister teams) own their first round pick for next year as it looks to be a high one...

 

out of curiousity... did you guys ever noticed that since SMC acquired at least 3 teams in the PBA one always had to be the bad apple... I mean not that they didn't have a decent line up (except for the time Coke was decimated by that lopsided trade) but they really couldn't compete

[howard_the_duck]

Guys, did you notice Helterbrand's play? He is a dribble happy guy who will hog the ball the whole 15 seconds standing near the mid-court and rush it out on last second/s only to shoot or pass the ball....

ito rin ang observation ni edc. dahil doon, banned siya. woohoo

[malaki]

simply put, helterbrand and caguioa's games are too similar - overdribbling, forced shots, only caring about putting up shots and points, not winning games.

 

 

i think ginebra should seriously decide which one to keep, and trade the other while he still has value as a crowd favorite (although away from bgk, who's to say if the fans would follow)

 

 

and otherwise, just keep losing games.. and pick up gabe norwood for next year.

[ray004]

in fairness kay jayjay and mark, sila pa rin ang cornerstone ng ginebra. isa man sa kanila mawala malaki ang magiging epekto sa team. wala lang chemistry ang team ngayon dahil sa mga bago at nawalang mga players.

[BigDaddy2]

Sana palitan na nila coaching staff...

[orionpax]

Even with the "dribble happy" guys in tow...its the COACH that should maximize with whats on-hand and make do with the line up that he has at his disposal (make adjustments, strategies, etc) ...

 

Parang ganito "Mark this is you, JJ this is you, Alex tirahin mo sa kamay ha..hampasin mo! "

 

Edited May 14, 2008 by orionpax

[pogingpogi]

For me dapat palitan talaga yung coach malaki nagagastos ng company para sa BGK sana man lang maisipisp nila yun....why not bring back siot or ronnie magsanoc to coach BGK

[bagito]

you mean BGK don't you?

 

I guess he really meant La Salle. DLSU started winning again when Franz replaced Jong.

[[TWO]RERO]

ito rin ang observation ni edc. dahil doon, banned siya. woohoo

and I LOVE IT!

 

 

MANALO, MATALO GINEBRA PA RIN.

Edited May 15, 2008 by [TWO]RERO

[kLique]

in fairness kay jayjay and mark, sila pa rin ang cornerstone ng ginebra. isa man sa kanila mawala malaki ang magiging epekto sa team. wala lang chemistry ang team ngayon dahil sa mga bago at nawalang mga players.

 

trade mark... masyado na syang complacent

he needs a new environment

 

I guess he really meant La Salle. DLSU started winning again when Franz replaced Jong.

 

nabasa ko na rin and medyo nakuuha ko na yung post nya

[moonman2002]

ano ba tong BGK!! idol ko cla pero bkt lagi natatalo... wala na ata kc c rudy hatfield... ano na ba nangyari sa kanya?? :cool:

[hothands]

season is pretty much over for BGK... I do hope they (or at least their sister teams) own their first round pick for next year as it looks to be a high one...

 

ung MBM ang may hawak ng pick ng BGK this draft...

[kLique]

ung MBM ang may hawak ng pick ng BGK this draft...

 

tsk tsk! looks like they'll end up wasting another talent...

[Agent_mulder]

Dapat coach ang masunod sa mga plays na dine-design n'ya fo the team at hindi 'yung 2 na puro dribble na lang ang ginagawa tapos titira ng alanganin at the last second tsk tsk..