ray004 Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 wala nga si caguioa pero marami silang magagaling na guard na pwede ilagay sa pwesto niya.. like junthy, tubid, salvacion.ung kawalan ni williams malaki para sa slr, mababaw lang bench nila then nung naghabol sila wala pa ung import sa loob. nung nahahabol na ginebra, wala nang gusto tumira sa kanila. hindi tulad ni caguioa talagang kukunin ang bola at ititira pag nasa pressure sila. ang dami naman magagaling na players ng ginebra pero takot tumira. i don't believe slr has a shallow bench..they're not the afc champs for nothing. i believe their players are under rated..williams and caguioa are both the designated take charge guys of their respective teams that's why they cancelled each other out with their absence. skills of valenzuela, tubid, helterbrand and salvacion are already given. but without chemistry the team cannot function well..reading between the lines, slr has more cohesion than bgk. given the right breaks cohesive team like slr can easily overcome such big leads. Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 sana maging consistent naman ang BGK now... i think they can attain consistency by next conference..they're still on adjustment period kaya on and off ang laro. i'm really amazed on how crisano is playing right now. may zeal 'ika nga. i hope he could be given more playing time than eric menk. Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted June 7, 2008 Share Posted June 7, 2008 Hindi ako naka-focus masyado sa game last night (as I was out drinking with a couple of friends), all I was able to notice is that pa-konti na ng pa-konti ang lamang nila noong 4th quarter but still they should have a killer instinct pag lamang na para hindi ganoon, sabagay maski noong araw ganyan na sila... agree sir! mukhang naging culture na yata ito ng ginebra since jawo days pa...just an observation Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 agree sir! mukhang naging culture na yata ito ng ginebra since jawo days pa...just an observation Yan ang hindi nila maalis sa system nila kahit na naka-ilang palit na sila ng coach, sana they do away with that... Quote Link to comment
angKHULEToh Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 sa magtuloy tuloy na yung win nila lapit na semis eh! Quote Link to comment
jojo Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 i think they can attain consistency by next conference..they're still on adjustment period kaya on and off ang laro. i'm really amazed on how crisano is playing right now. may zeal 'ika nga. i hope he could be given more playing time than eric menk.yeah... the energy that he brings when he's on the court... kahit hindi siya umiscore ng madami as long as he gets the rebounds and do the dirty works that Eric Menk usually does... Quote Link to comment
Agent_mulder Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Sa case ni Menk, I dont know whats bugging him, kung tinatamad na ba sya at gusto na nya pa-trade (as based on what i've read here) or me injury pa sya or talagang mahilig sya gumimik (gaya ni andy seigle) and it has taken its toll on him. Speaking o andy seigle, me nakilala akong girl (who works in a club) at sabi ko maka-Ginebra ako then sabi nya me naging bf daw sya sa Ginebra at si andy nga daw yun, di ko malaman kung nagi-ilusyon sya o ano Quote Link to comment
[TWO]RERO Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 (edited) @^gf sa club.. hell they are not called "playas" for nothing. woot! Edited June 9, 2008 by [TWO]RERO Quote Link to comment
rafer_alston Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 ano ba standing ng Ginebra?? kumusta yung import nila??? Quote Link to comment
kLique Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 suddenly BGK has some real possibility of making the quarters...let's see what transpires in the next few weeks Quote Link to comment
jojo Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Sa case ni Menk, I dont know whats bugging him, kung tinatamad na ba sya at gusto na nya pa-trade (as based on what i've read here) or me injury pa sya or talagang mahilig sya gumimik (gaya ni andy seigle) and it has taken its toll on him. Speaking o andy seigle, me nakilala akong girl (who works in a club) at sabi ko maka-Ginebra ako then sabi nya me naging bf daw sya sa Ginebra at si andy nga daw yun, di ko malaman kung nagi-ilusyon sya o ano baka totoo... kasi napabalita dati na laman ng mga bars and night spots sina Andy Seigle... Quote Link to comment
archiexarchie Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 sana manalo uli mamaya against PF Quote Link to comment
bagito Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 Totoo bang kinukuha ng Sydney Kings si Caguioa? Quote Link to comment
kLique Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 sana manalo uli mamaya against PF mukhang mananalo sila mamaya...ayaw raw "maglaro" ng 2 players ng PFdon't know if they've resolved their differencesthough it is not with each other... Totoo bang kinukuha ng Sydney Kings si Caguioa? could be... though I doubt itas far as I know it was Kelly Williams that was being eyed to play as an import elsewhere Quote Link to comment
Archdevil Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 hmm, ano meron sa PF at ayaw maglaro ng 2 players? Anyway, sana nga manalo mamaya. Crisano used be the highest vertical leaper in the PBA. I like his energy when he plays. Menk has lost his game. Lipat na lang siya ibang team baka magbago pa game niya. Quote Link to comment
[TWO]RERO Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 mukhang mananalo sila mamaya...ayaw raw "maglaro" ng 2 players ng PFdon't know if they've resolved their differencesthough it is not with each other...sa tingin ko.. pautot nanaman ni Ryan yan.. para malito yung depensa ng kalaban.. just like dati when Kerby was injured di nila sinabi na hindi makakalaro si Kerby. could be... though I doubt itas far as I know it was Kelly Williams that was being eyed to play as an import elsewhere Caguioa sa Australian cage league?Tuesday, June 10, 2008Philippine Star Si Mark Caguioa sa Australian basketball league? Mananatiling opsyon ang posibleng paglalaro ng 6-footer na pambato ng Brgy. Ginebra sa Australian National Basketball League (ANBL) matapos magkaroon ng maikling pag-uusap ang agent/manager nitong si Danny Espiritu at ang Sydney Kings. Matapos makita ang 28-anyos na si Caguioa sa FIBA-Asia Men’s Championships noong nakaraang taon, binisita ng ilang opisyales ng Sydney Kings ang produkto ng Glendale Community College. “Ang sabi ko sa kanila they should make an offer to Mark that he cannot refuse kasi maganda naman ang ibinibigay ng Ginebra management kay Mark pagdating sa salary,” ani Espiritu, may proposal na P1 milyong monthly salary sa Sydney Kings para kay Caguioa. “If they cannot afford that money, forget about the talks.” Kasalukuyan ngayong nagpapagaling ng kanyang tendinitis sa kanyang hita si Caguioa, hindi nakita sa aksyon sa huling dalawang laro ng Gin Kings sa second round ng 2008 PBA Fiesta Conference. “Actually, hindi lang naman si Mark ang nabanggit sa akin ng mga officials ng Sydney Kings. May iba pa diyan na baka naman hindi puwedeng maglaro sa kanila because of their respective contracts,” dagdag ni Espiritu. Ilan sa mga umagaw ng atensyon ng Sydney Kings ay sina Kerby Raymundo at Nino Canaleta. (Russell Cadayona) Quote Link to comment
kLique Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 (edited) Crisano used be the highest vertical leaper in the PBA. I like his energy when he plays. Menk has lost his game. Lipat na lang siya ibang team baka magbago pa game niya. Menk is demotivated... and you're right probably a change in scenery sould helpbigay na lang sya sa Welcoat for draft picks ok na! haha Caguioa sa Australian cage league?Tuesday, June 10, 2008Philippine Star Si Mark Caguioa sa Australian basketball league? Mananatiling opsyon ang posibleng paglalaro ng 6-footer na pambato ng Brgy. Ginebra sa Australian National Basketball League (ANBL) matapos magkaroon ng maikling pag-uusap ang agent/manager nitong si Danny Espiritu at ang Sydney Kings. Matapos makita ang 28-anyos na si Caguioa sa FIBA-Asia Men’s Championships noong nakaraang taon, binisita ng ilang opisyales ng Sydney Kings ang produkto ng Glendale Community College. “Ang sabi ko sa kanila they should make an offer to Mark that he cannot refuse kasi maganda naman ang ibinibigay ng Ginebra management kay Mark pagdating sa salary,” ani Espiritu, may proposal na P1 milyong monthly salary sa Sydney Kings para kay Caguioa. “If they cannot afford that money, forget about the talks.” Kasalukuyan ngayong nagpapagaling ng kanyang tendinitis sa kanyang hita si Caguioa, hindi nakita sa aksyon sa huling dalawang laro ng Gin Kings sa second round ng 2008 PBA Fiesta Conference. “Actually, hindi lang naman si Mark ang nabanggit sa akin ng mga officials ng Sydney Kings. May iba pa diyan na baka naman hindi puwedeng maglaro sa kanila because of their respective contracts,” dagdag ni Espiritu. Ilan sa mga umagaw ng atensyon ng Sydney Kings ay sina Kerby Raymundo at Nino Canaleta. (Russell Cadayona) don't believe what Espiritu says... at the end of the day he's still an agent P1M/month... hmmm... he's getting a figure quite near to this already Edited June 11, 2008 by kLique Quote Link to comment
peterpaulmary Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 oo nga tingin kung bibigay yung 1m a month payag na payag si Mark. Lalo na kasi taga Australia yung kanyang girlfriend. Yun lang Iam A Ginebra fanatic sayang kasi I think Mark is good for about 4 to 5 years nalang in his playing carreer, yun ay productive playing carreer, and with the type of game he plays run and gun seldom do we have guys past 35 that could still be as aggressive, so it means that he wont be able to don a Ginebra uniform in top form. Tsaka pano na si Jayjay cause they drew strenght from one another. Marami talagang malulungkot pag nawala si Mark, pero if it happens as Ginebra fans we should be proud of him Quote Link to comment
[TWO]RERO Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 PANALO TAYO MGA KABARANGAY! 89-81 WIN :cool: Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 ang lupit ng crossover ni jayjay dun sa winning shot nya! layo ng pinag iwanan kay roger yap..hahaha Quote Link to comment
[TWO]RERO Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 sarap panoorin yung mga imports pag nakaka score.. lol parang di ko nanman narinig yung pangalan ni James Mop nung crunch time.. *cough* choke *cough* Quote Link to comment
ray004 Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 mukhang totoo nga tsismis sa loob ng team ng purefoods..obvious yung laro ni james yap. daming turn over at pilit mga tira Quote Link to comment
kLique Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 sarap panoorin yung mga imports pag nakaka score.. lol parang di ko nanman narinig yung pangalan ni James Mop nung crunch time.. *cough* choke *cough* hahaha! true! aliw na aliw ako...buti na lang walang tinawag na technical mukhang totoo nga tsismis sa loob ng team ng purefoods..obvious yung laro ni james yap. daming turn over at pilit mga tira hindi naman kasi sya tsismis Quote Link to comment
pimpkin® Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 BARANGAY GINEBRA TURNS BACK PUREFOODSHelterbrand, Tubid, Alexander shine anew in Caguioa’s absenceWednesday, 11 June 2008Accidentally hit in the face by Reda Rhalimi midway through the fourth quarter, Jayjay Helterbrand got back at the entire Purefoods team, coming through with clutch plays at the finish. Helterbrand scored seven points in an 11-2 closing run carrying Barangay Ginebra to an 89-81 win over Purefoods Wednesday night in the 2008 Smart PBA Fiesta Conference at the Araneta Coliseum. Rhalimi and Chris Alexander had been in a furious battle before Helterbrand stole the thunder, leading the Kings to a second straight win curiously in the absence of injured top gun Mark Caguioa. Alexander finished with 20 points, 16 rebounds, three assists and the same number of blocks against Rhalimi’s 28 points, 15 rebounds, two steals, one assist and one block. The two imports taunted one another with Alexander easily winning the support of the crowd on his side. He got tremendous applause after a two-handed jam in the dying seconds for the final count. Ronald Tubid was also there to support Alexander with the former UE Warrior producing a personal conference-high 21 points that went with nine rebounds, three assists and three steals. "Mahirap talagang wala si Mark (Caguioa). We need guys like Jayjay and Ronald to double their efforts to compensate for the absence of Mark," said Ginebra coach Jong Uichico. Caguioa is nursing a strained calf muscle. His status is day-to-day. "Our goal is to win as many games as possible in our last few games in the elims. Hopefully, we make it at least to the middle of the pack," Uichico said. The Kings caught up with the Giants at eighth place on their identical 6-8 win-loss cards. Ginebra’s last four games are against Coca-Cola, Alaska, Talk n Text and Welcoat. The Kings overcame the Giants with better field-goal shooting, rebounding and passing. But they went through a wringer, fighting the Giants through 11 deadlocks and 24 lead changes. Purefoods went up for the last time at 79-78 on a free throw by Enrico Villanueva off a hard foul by Alexander. Ginebra made it 44-all at the half as Tubid shook off the defense of Roger Yap then soared high for a double-pump against Villanueva at the buzzer. (NC) The scores: Ginebra 89 – Tubid 21, Alexander 20, Helterbrand 17, Valenzuela 11, Artadi 8, Mamaril 7, Menk 3, Crisano 2, Pacana 0, Wilson 0, Salvacion 0. Purefoods 81 – Rhalimi 28, Raymundo 12, Yap J. 10, Yap R. 10, Villanueva 9, Simon 8, Lanete 4, Sanz 0, Salvador 0. Quarterscores: 23-18, 44-44, 67-62, 89-81. Quote Link to comment
jojo Posted June 11, 2008 Share Posted June 11, 2008 buti na lang nanalo ulit tayo... Quote Link to comment
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