Wyld Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 your welcome wyldchik this could work bothways while you update yourself on the HR trends here you could also brief us on the latest HR model particularly on OD and employee relations dakila tlaga ang mga HR Professionals no? Quote Link to comment
xcalibr Posted July 8, 2004 Share Posted July 8, 2004 hi hr gurus! if i am a business administration grad, will i not be out of line if i would focus on hr? any seminars or other materials to start with? Quote Link to comment
Wyld Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 hmm experience is really the best teacher in HR. you can try attending some seminars offered by the Personnel Mgmt Association of the Philippines or Watson Wyatt or any other reputable HR Org ... you can also try enrolling in a Post Grad HR course -- DLSU has a pretty good program. try to find an HR related job - even if its entry level. you learn the HR ropes easiest this way. good luck Quote Link to comment
satnight Posted July 9, 2004 Share Posted July 9, 2004 HR Pros...Goodday to all. Can i ask something, here goes...if a company declares a loss on its business, is this a sufficient reason for them to not give increases to its employees on the following year? Is this a practice in the industry? Hope to hear replies from you and much thanks in advance Quote Link to comment
Wyld Posted July 11, 2004 Share Posted July 11, 2004 satnight pay increases are usually based on the company's projected earnings for a given fiscal year. if a company does not make money for the current year, definitely, its profit projections for the next year will be either low or zero. that is their reason for not giving increases - the company has not made enough money to justify any pay increases. i hope this helps Quote Link to comment
xcalibr Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 hmm experience is really the best teacher in HR. you can try attending some seminars offered by the Personnel Mgmt Association of the Philippines or Watson Wyatt or any other reputable HR Org ... you can also try enrolling in a Post Grad HR course -- DLSU has a pretty good program. try to find an HR related job - even if its entry level. you learn the HR ropes easiest this way. good luck Thanks wyldchik! Quote Link to comment
Wyld Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 no problem xcalibr... keep us posted aight? Quote Link to comment
xcalibr Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 no problem. ihave inquired and they have this hr management overview. i think it'll be good for starters and hopefulls like me. thanks again Quote Link to comment
Tokoy Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 HR Pros...Goodday to all. Can i ask something, here goes...if a company declares a loss on its business, is this a sufficient reason for them to not give increases to its employees on the following year? Is this a practice in the industry? Hope to hear replies from you and much thanks in advance good day satnight another plus factor in investing and working in the philippines is the fact that the government provides a "good business" climate for investments and also "security of tenure" for employees. if your company experienced loss they may differ the salary increase until such time they're on profit again. thanks Quote Link to comment
Tokoy Posted July 12, 2004 Share Posted July 12, 2004 no problem. ihave inquired and they have this hr management overview. i think it'll be good for starters and hopefulls like me. thanks again hi xcalibr good day if you're dead serious in shifting career to Human Resources Work then it would be a good foundation for you to have an Organizational Development background. I know UP or Adamson offered this course just verify. thanks Quote Link to comment
Tokoy Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 Good Evening HR people! Its pretty lonely in here. Is this a good indication that labor has been flowing smoothly? Is it? Quote Link to comment
rude_angel Posted July 13, 2004 Share Posted July 13, 2004 hello po sa inyo, my boss wants to establish a company here in the philippines, and i was asked to handle this, we need a couple of staff, but the problem is i don't have any idea kung magkano ang entry level salary nile, here are the positions: Manager Programmer Analyst (min. 2 years experience) Receptionist i hope you guys can shed a light on this, salamat po Quote Link to comment
satnight Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 Thanks to wyldchick and tokoy Quote Link to comment
Wyld Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 rude angel... wages for those positions are usually determined to a large part by the industry that your company is operating in. you usually compare or benchmark salaries w/ companies in the same industry or those whom you consider to be your comparators OR competitors... you will also need to know your companies target market positioning -- eg pay at minimum, median or maximum... ask your boss who these companies are and what the firms target pay position is. when you find out, you can then proceed to secure salary data from a reputable survey company eg watson wyatt. from there you can base your salary recommendations. Quote Link to comment
rude_angel Posted July 14, 2004 Share Posted July 14, 2004 thanks for the info wyldchik Quote Link to comment
sebyang Posted July 17, 2004 Share Posted July 17, 2004 hello po sa inyo, my boss wants to establish a company here in the philippines, and i was asked to handle this, we need a couple of staff, but the problem is i don't have any idea kung magkano ang entry level salary nile, here are the positions: Manager Programmer Analyst (min. 2 years experience) Receptionist i hope you guys can shed a light on this, salamat po dude! we need to establish the rate, how big is ur grp ba? well if u can also specify kung ano ung ibang requirements, that would help Quote Link to comment
rude_angel Posted July 18, 2004 Share Posted July 18, 2004 we already have office in singapore, japan hongkong and in shanghai, here in manila we will start po siguro with one manager, two programmer analysts and one front desk staff, Quote Link to comment
Wyld Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 we already have office in singapore, japan hongkong and in shanghai, here in manila we will start po siguro with one manager, two programmer analysts and one front desk staff, kung ganyan lang ka few ang staff... you can actually use the "going rate" approach. try to find out the average going rates for your openings ... either ask other HR practicioners or buy survey data. then from there, you can try to approximate a reasonable salary given your company's capability to pay. you can develop your salary structure after you have hired these people. i think youre priority at this point is to get people so you can get the company goin ryt? Quote Link to comment
Steppenwolf Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 kung ganyan lang ka few ang staff... you can actually use the "going rate" approach. try to find out the average going rates for your openings ... either ask other HR practicioners or buy survey data. then from there, you can try to approximate a reasonable salary given your company's capability to pay. you can develop your salary structure after you have hired these people. i think youre priority at this point is to get people so you can get the company goin ryt? My inputs po.. considering its a small team... one approach is to base the salary from your candidates, ie, among the top candidates... you get their salary info and get their average pay as your benchmark. But if you need concrete salary info ahead which i guess you may require for your study before you proceed with opening an office here, you may contact local consulting companies for more realistic data. Another possible source is PMAP...and even Jobstreet and JobsDB. regards Quote Link to comment
Wyld Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 My inputs po.. considering its a small team... one approach is to base the salary from your candidates, ie, among the top candidates... you get their salary info and get their average pay as your benchmark. But if you need concrete salary info ahead which i guess you may require for your study before you proceed with opening an office here, you may contact local consulting companies for more realistic data. Another possible source is PMAP...and even Jobstreet and JobsDB. regards thats an okay approach to take if their budget can afford it. ang risk kse jan is some candidates tend to jack up their "asking rates" especially for start up companies... ina anticipate kse nila ang volume of work and they know that the company really needs them... thats the reason why iv always relied on market data for benchmarking purposes. this way - mas objective ang gamit mo na basis for determining pay... Quote Link to comment
Steppenwolf Posted July 19, 2004 Share Posted July 19, 2004 HR Pros...Goodday to all. Can i ask something, here goes...if a company declares a loss on its business, is this a sufficient reason for them to not give increases to its employees on the following year? Is this a practice in the industry? Hope to hear replies from you and much thanks in advance My inputs po ulit... 1.a company declares a loss on its business, is this a sufficient reason for them to not give increases to its employees on the following year? Yes, it is sufficient. But even if you have sufficient reason (or not), its always about how you package your message and how consistent you will be to implement it. Some companies tried slashing increases but not including the Management team...needless to say, it'd result to labor concerns. My suggestion is for the Head of the company to get first the commitment of the heads of each dept to implement non release of increase...starting with them. 2. Is this a practice in the industry? Yes. A lot of companies use this during the asian crisis. It can even be used to justify redundancy or retrenchment program. However, make sure you make thorough study before implementation. Take into account potential productivity loss and maybe resignations from your talented employees. Quote Link to comment
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