Traffic Problem In Metro Manila (Merged Thread)

[yellowandblue]

feel ko talaga kailangan lang natin paguhin ang pagiisip tungkol sa transportation. Mag bike at mag lakad nalang kasi tayo )

[Ryuji_tanaka]

feel ko talaga kailangan lang natin paguhin ang pagiisip tungkol sa transportation. Mag bike at mag lakad nalang kasi tayo )

How about a localized (like Sarao did with the jeep) of this:

 

The SOLO, a single passenger electric three-wheeler, is slated for July launch

http://www.treehugger.com/cars/solo-single-passenger-electric-three-wheeler-slated-july-launch.html

[docpepin]

Sa mga major na kalsada siguro dapat na nating iretiro ang mga jeepney dito at mas mainam na bus na ang gamitin.

[camiar]

What causes traffic jams?

 

Scientific explanation in this link:

 

https://worldindustrialreporter.com/causes-traffic-jams/?adsrc_=article1

 

Solution:

• drive at a steady pace and avoid changing lanes or slowing down to look at things
• lessen congestion the road by using public transport or by car-pooling
• driver-less cars (they are better in maintaining steady pace than human-driven cars) -- future solution
• work at home

[camiar]

How about a localized (like Sarao did with the jeep) of this:

 

The SOLO, a single passenger electric three-wheeler, is slated for July launch

http://www.treehugger.com/cars/solo-single-passenger-electric-three-wheeler-slated-july-launch.html

 

I'd be more forgiving for this type of single-seat three-wheelers than motorcycles along EDSA.

 

Motorcycles along EDSA drive me nuts. They are dangerous to themselves and to others and they shouldn't be there.

[Ryuji_tanaka]

 

I'd be more forgiving for this type of single-seat three-wheelers than motorcycles along EDSA.

 

Motorcycles along EDSA drive me nuts. They are dangerous to themselves and to others and they shouldn't be there.

Would actually be a good alternative to cars, since a lot just have one person inside.

[GabVi7936]

what happened to the plan to make ALL PUV drivers employees and make the boundary system illegal?

that should be done asap.

get rid of colorum buses and jeepenys.

[jasonrestrella13]

Graft for illegal operation???

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/570684/money/companies/abaya-ginez-face-graft-for-illegal-operation-of-grab-uber-u-hop

 

Why not improve the freakin traffic problem!

[butrto@st]

1.) Reduce the LTO Franchise of Buses plying Edsa and adopt Bus demand Bus release scheme in Edsa. BRT scheme in short.

2.) Disallow cars having less than 3 passengers plying Edsa during peak traffic hours.

3.) Adopt a system of toll in CBD districts for cars using road going in and out during rush hours to pay extra similar to Singapore. Exempted are BUS and Public Transport, Bicycle

4.) Implement no parking slot certificate, no right to buy cars policy

5.) Open critical subdivision for cars to pass thru during peak hours as alternate route

6.) Improve LRT and MRT and add additional lines. Funding should come from cars sold and toll collection of Edsa during rush hours.

7.) Implement strictly no parking on roads up to tertiary roads. My God the roads in the Philippines are being abused by people living beside it as their garage, parking slot, business space and even basketball court.

8.) Create elevated walk ways with bike line in conjuction with commercial property developer in order to fast track construction and give them tax breaks for their cooperation with additional revenue for advertising rights on the walk ways and lease rights for commercial space.

9.) Encourage people to use green bikes and to walk instead for short distance.

10.) Ban all Trailers and Big Trucks from CBD ( Central Business District) and Major Thoroughfares.

[Ryuji_tanaka]

Gawing subway lahat ng train lines at sana magkaroon ng tren sa lahat ng major roads.

its going to be like the lagusnilad in Manila, konting ulan lang "under the sea" na ang theme song.

[NooB]

Make MM pedestrian friendly, and do something about apartment rates in MM. I like the JICA proposal of abandoning the whole road based transportation scheme for MM. I take the trains as much as possible when in MM, eventhough its more expensive. Thanks Abaya I hope you rot in hell.

[Number35]

Traffic is so bad, that your inner demon is just waiting to come out.

Almost, automatic that the travel time is 1-2hrs. Hay. I have high hopes for this administration.

[filibustero]

Kung 2 days per week kaya ang color coding ng isang sasakyan? Just to reduce vehicle volume plying the roads in any given day. Masyado na talaga marami kotse sa Metro Manila eh.

[haroots2]

Kung 2 days per week kaya ang color coding ng isang sasakyan? Just to reduce vehicle volume plying the roads in any given day. Masyado na talaga marami kotse sa Metro Manila eh.

 

Bukod dyan dapat whole day na ang color coding hindi yung may time lang. Kasi hindi lang rush hour ang traffic ngayon.

Edited August 6, 2016 by haroots2

[camiar]

Kung 2 days per week kaya ang color coding ng isang sasakyan? Just to reduce vehicle volume plying the roads in any given day. Masyado na talaga marami kotse sa Metro Manila eh.

Naku wag naman.

 

I don't want to have to buy a third car....

[camiar]

Let's adopt Singapore's Certificate of Entitlement (COE) system.

 

People has to bid for the privilege to own a car. The money the government gets from the COE bidding is used to build MRT System, new roads, tunnels and flyovers, river ferry system, etc...

 

If we limit COEs to only 100.000 new cars per year, and the bids go up to PhP 500,000 per COE, the government can raise PhP 50,000,000,000.00 (PhP 50 Billion) per year for transport and road system improvements, over and above the annual budget outlay given to DPWH and DOTC projects.

 

All private cars and jeeps 15 years and older should be decommissioned.

[filibustero]

Let's adopt Singapore's Certificate of Entitlement (COE) system.

 

People has to bid for the privilege to own a car. The money the government gets from the COE bidding is used to build MRT System, new roads, tunnels and flyovers, river ferry system, etc...

 

If we limit COEs to only 100.000 new cars per year, and the bids go up to PhP 500,000 per COE, the government can raise PhP 50,000,000,000.00 (PhP 50 Billion) per year for transport and road system improvements, over and above the annual budget outlay given to DPWH and DOTC projects.

 

All private cars and jeeps 15 years and older should be decommissioned.

 

Naku ako naman ang mapapabili ng bagong kotse dito. More than 15 years na kotse ko eh. Haha.

 

This proposal may be considered anti-"poor", since it favors people who can afford to buy new cars. Singapore (and Japan) can have this policy because they have a larger middle-class base, not so with the Philippines. Maraming mga hampas-lupa na tulad ko na hanggang bulok na 2nd hand lang ang afford.

[filibustero]

The "No garage, no car" policy should be pushed by Congress because it is one of the measures that will ease up traffic. There are a lot of cars parked on secondary roads which can be used as alternate routes and motorists don't really want to pass on these roads because of parked cars which make the roads difficult to pass in.

 

This is true. Or at the very least, identify these main secondary roads and ban parking vehicles there. Parang yung Mabuhay Lanes, identified yung route and bawal dapat mag-park sa kalsada. Mark the roads with a solid red line sa gitna para alam ng tao na no-parking road yun.

[camiar]

The "No garage, no car" policy should be pushed by Congress because it is one of the measures that will ease up traffic. There are a lot of cars parked on secondary roads which can be used as alternate routes and motorists don't really want to pass on these roads because of parked cars which make the roads difficult to pass in.

 

Yeah. Similar to the policies adopted in Tokyo and other major Japanese cities. You can't buy a new car unless you show to the authorities where you intend to park it.

 

Also, all future high rise buildings to be built should have in their building plans a mandatory number of parking slots not just for their own tenants, but for the visitors as well.

[camiar]

 

Naku ako naman ang mapapabili ng bagong kotse dito. More than 15 years na kotse ko eh. Haha.

 

This proposal may be considered anti-"poor", since it favors people who can afford to buy new cars. Singapore (and Japan) can have this policy because they have a larger middle-class base, not so with the Philippines. Maraming mga hampas-lupa na tulad ko na hanggang bulok na 2nd hand lang ang afford.

Hindi naman siya "anti-poor".

 

The poor cannot afford to buy a car anyway.

 

What the system does is to tax the private vehicle buyers, and use the funds to build an efficient public transport system.

 

The effect:

1. de-clogging of roads of delapidated and under-utilized vehicles
2. development of efficient mass transport system

 

This is actually pro-poor.

 

When I was living in Singapore, I didn't have to buy a car because the Bus, Taxi, and MRT systems are very affordable and efficient.

Edited August 8, 2016 by camiar

[filibustero]

Hindi naman siya "anti-poor".

 

The poor cannot afford to buy a car anyway.

 

What the system does is to tax the private vehicle buyers, and use the funds to build an efficient public transport system.

 

The effect:

1. de-clogging of roads of delapidated and under-utilized vehicles
2. development of efficient mass transport system

 

This is actually pro-poor.

 

When I was living in Singapore, I didn't have to buy a car because the Bus, Taxi, and MRT systems are very affordable and efficient.

 

"poor" in the sense that walang pambili ng bagong kotse. Environmentalists are the ones that proposed this here - the older the car, the more pollutive it is. Pero yun nga, paano naman yun mga walang pambili ng bagong kotse? Commute na lang kasi wala naman pera pambili ng bago. Sa Pilipinas pa naman, bansagan lang na anti-poor ang policy, shot down na kagad.

 

As for "affordable" MRT system, if Singapore's MRT system is already "affordable", then we can consider Manila's MRT as practically free. Our MRT and LRT is by far the cheapest train I've taken. Much cheaper than Singapore, Korea, the US, and Europe. And yet Filipinos complain if fares are raised even just by 1 peso. The truth is Filipinos are not paying the actual cost of operations for the trains. And the cost of running these trains are just the same as other countries (it's the same train!) - albeit with higher cost of electricity in the Philippines, which is offset anyway by the lower cost of salary of employees. But those other countries can charge the actual cost of the trains simply because their citizens can afford it - whereas ours cannot. That's why raising the cost of the trains never flies because it is "anti-poor".

[camiar]

The only way that the LTO can check if the cars really have a garage is if they hire inspectors to inspect each and every garage of car owners and the cars that are parked there together with the capacity.

Yes, that's what I've read is what they do is Tokyo. They have inspectors, and the approved carport/garage locations and the corresponding car allotted to them are recorded in a computer database to prevent spurious claim that they have a space where in fact they don't.

[camiar]

 

"poor" in the sense that walang pambili ng bagong kotse. Environmentalists are the ones that proposed this here - the older the car, the more pollutive it is. Pero yun nga, paano naman yun mga walang pambili ng bagong kotse? Commute na lang kasi wala naman pera pambili ng bago. Sa Pilipinas pa naman, bansagan lang na anti-poor ang policy, shot down na kagad.

 

 

 

Kaya nga hindi sya "anti-poor". It is "pro-poor " because you're providing them with an affordable and efficient transport system so they don't have to buy their own private vehicle, and you're getting the funds, not from them but from the "rich" who can afford to buy these private vehicles.

 

As for "affordable" MRT system, if Singapore's MRT system is already "affordable", then we can consider Manila's MRT as practically free. Our MRT and LRT is by far the cheapest train I've taken. Much cheaper than Singapore, Korea, the US, and Europe. And yet Filipinos complain if fares are raised even just by 1 peso. The truth is Filipinos are not paying the actual cost of operations for the trains. And the cost of running these trains are just the same as other countries (it's the same train!) - albeit with higher cost of electricity in the Philippines, which is offset anyway by the lower cost of salary of employees. But those other countries can charge the actual cost of the trains simply because their citizens can afford it - whereas ours cannot. That's why raising the cost of the trains never flies because it is "anti-poor".

People actually pay more per kilometer riding dilapidated and cramped jeepneys, tricycles, and even UV Express.

How much do you pay to ride a tricycle? It is more than what you pay the MRT for equivalent distance.

How much time and money would it cost you to ride a jeepney from Cubao to Espana? The value of time alone lost in congested traffic is more than what you pay if you use the MRT.

How much is the UV Express from Guadalupe to Balintawak? It's probably double what you pay the MRT.

Ordinary people can afford to pay more for MRT, or Taxi, or Double-decker Bus.

It is the politicians who make people think otherwise.

Edited August 8, 2016 by camiar

[circle]

siguro bago tayo mag buo ng bagong policies, implement muna natin ung mga existing traffic rules natin. ang dami sa atin ang di pa din marunong sumunod sa simpleng batas trapiko. sa araw araw ko na pagdadala ng kotse, eto palagi ang nakikita ko na di pinapansin ng mga pulis at laging sinusuway ng mga tao.

 

1. overspeeding

2. illegal counterflow

3. not following traffic lights

4. not using designated areas for loading/unloading

5. using public roads as terminals

6. at madami pa...

 

kagaya nga ginagawa natin ngayon sa "war on drugs", implementation lang yan. maayos naman mga batas natin, madami lang ndi sumusunod. lahat kasi gusto nila mauna sila. lahat iniisip din na sila ang may karapatan o may right of way. walang nagbibigayan. may tatawid na tao o may liliko, di pagbibigyan kahit na trapik naman. ayaw lang kasi magpasingit.

 

di lang yun, dapat din magbago ugali ng tao. kasi karamihan ng di sumusunod, iniisip nila... wala naman nanghuhuli eh. syempre di rin sila titigil. kaya dapat simulan na ang paghuli sa mga di sumusunod. pagtagal makaka ugalian na ng tao na sumunod sa batas.

[azraelmd]

Kung 2 days per week kaya ang color coding ng isang sasakyan? Just to reduce vehicle volume plying the roads in any given day. Masyado na talaga marami kotse sa Metro Manila eh.

E kung odd even scheme nlang? Parang mas ok...sure pang mababawasan ang volume ng sasakyan....