Traffic Problem In Metro Manila (Merged Thread)

[rooster69ph]

Gusto natin maganda at well maintained na public transport tulad ng mrt/lrt. Gusto natin efficient tulad ng singapore...

 

Ang tanong, willing naman ba magbayad ng mas mataas kaysa sa current min. rate? In singapore min fare is S$0.78 for japan ¥140 i think.

 

Tuwing magtataas ng singil madami ang nagrereklamo...we want a lot of things but we don't want to pay the price of it.

[Joblow]

Sa Singapore, 2-3 minutes lang ang pagitan ng MRT.

 

Anong sinasabi mong 15-30 minutes dapat?

[Joblow]

Sa Singapore, 2-3 minutes lang ang pagitan ng MRT.

 

Anong sinasabi mong 15-30 minutes dapat?

Kasing puno ba siya ng tren sa atin? Paminsan minsan napapasakay ako ng mrt, makikita mo kung paani magstuck ang pinto dahil ayaw sumara sa dami ng tao

[camiar]

Kasing puno ba siya ng tren sa atin? Paminsan minsan napapasakay ako ng mrt, makikita mo kung paani magstuck ang pinto dahil ayaw sumara sa dami ng tao

Kaya sobrang puno ang tren natin kasi, few and far between ang dating sa stations.

 

Sa Singapore mas maraming coaches per train, kasing haba ng loading bay ang mga train. Dito sa atin, kalahati lang ng loading bay ang haba ng tren.

 

They have more train coaches and comes in at shorter intervals. That's why hindi napupuno ng husto, hindi naoover-stress.

 

Our MRT were given the budget to buy more coaches, but what did Abaya, Mar, and Vitangcol do? They tried to extort money from the Czech supplier so the deal fell through. Tapos bumili sila ng made in China coaches. Mas mura daw, Pero anong nangyari kaya sa savings? Pinambili ng boto nung eleksyon? Pupusta pa ako, di tatagal ng 2 yrs yung Made In China train coaches.

Edited May 23, 2016 by camiar

[camiar]

Gusto natin maganda at well maintained na public transport tulad ng mrt/lrt. Gusto natin efficient tulad ng singapore...

 

Ang tanong, willing naman ba magbayad ng mas mataas kaysa sa current min. rate? In singapore min fare is S$0.78 for japan ¥140 i think.

 

Tuwing magtataas ng singil madami ang nagrereklamo...we want a lot of things but we don't want to pay the price of it.

 

Willing magbayad ang tao kung maganda ang service.

 

They are paying more than that to UV Express vans, which is not as efficient nor as comfortable as a properly loaded MRT train. Me nagreklamo ba na sobrang mahal maningil ang UV Express?

 

Yun ngang mga tricycle mas mahal pa sumingil, di naman sulit ang serbisyo. Me nagreklamo ba?

 

Tanga lang talaga si Abnoy at Mar. They should have used their political capital to rationalize the MRT fares. Raise the fares to make the system self financing and efficient. But they didn't. To them, good satisfaction survey result is more important than the greater good.

Edited May 23, 2016 by camiar

[rooster69ph]

Willing magbayad ang tao kung maganda ang service.

 

They are paying more than that to UV Express vans, which is not as efficient nor as comfortable as a properly loaded MRT train. Me nagreklamo ba na sobrang mahal maningil ang UV Express?

 

Yun ngang mga tricycle mas mahal pa sumingil, di naman sulit ang serbisyo. Me nagreklamo ba?

 

Tanga lang talaga si Abnoy at Mar. They should have used their political capital to rationalize the MRT fares. Raise the fares to make the system self financing and efficient. But they didn't. To them, good satisfaction survey result is more important than the greater good.

Hahaha...kaya pala tuwing may balak magtaas ng fare ayun sangdamukal na reklamo.

 

Ilang beses na binalak itaas ang fare ng lrt/mrt dati pa. Puros apela ng taong bayan.

 

Nasaan ka nun lumabas ang ganitong balita?

 

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/opposition-to-mrt-lrt-fare-hike-mounts/

 

Ayun ...tanga na naman si Pnoy hindi kasi itinaas ang rates. You are a supporter of BBM, siguro aaminin mo na tanga rin siya kasi tinutulan din niya ito. Pogi points naman kasi ayaw ng taong bayan.

 

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2015/01/08/1410821/marcos-sees-civil-unrest-urges-aquino-stop-mrt-lrt-fare-hike

Edited May 23, 2016 by rooster69ph

[Joblow]

Small percentage lang ang willing magbayad ng mahal ng fare sa MRT. During the initial opening of MRT, P40 ang proposed fare, that was year 2000 I think. Daming nagreklaamo, ayun binaba sa around P10 ang fare

[Misteryotao]

The problem with the MRT/LRT system is that fares is being subsidize by the government. Instead paying the proper fare, government is partially paying the fare for the people. Compounded the years these system have operated has left them with minimal funds to maintain and improve the system.

As to the overflowing number of passengers. I think the problem lies with the lack of infrastructure. If we add more transit lines, people will disperse to other stations. Problem is Manila has a population of at least 12M. Imagine that Metro Manila has four transit lines versus the population of 12M. I'm not even counting the people who lived outside Manila but daily goes into Manila for their jobs.

Metro Manila is densely populated and we are feeling the effects overcrowded. But i don't see that as the biggest problem to transportation. We have cities that is similarly densely populated like Seoul, that has no public transportation problems. Mainly because South Korea has invested on infastructure. Numerous subway station has kept the city transportation much less of a problem. Tokyo is not as dense as ours. But i know for a fact that there are more people who come in Tokyo for their work. But transportation has never been an issue for them.

These traffic woes can be remedied if the government starts investing on transit lines more. Instead of roads, we should focus more on transit lines.

[rooster69ph]

We all agree that we need more infrastructure. But building one needs sacrifices from the people. Unang una dagdag traffic yan habang ginagawa. Eh karamihan ng pinoy reklamador. Pansariling interest kasi kaysa kapakanan ng bayan at nakakarami.

 

Tulad din yan ng mrt/lrt fares. Kung sa simula pa lamang naipatupad yun unti unting pagtanggal ng subsidy para maging self sustaining yan eh malamang hindi hahantong sa ganito. Kung profitable kasi sa tingin ko mas may pondo for maintenance at upgrades at di aasa sa general appropriations.

Edited May 24, 2016 by rooster69ph

[Joblow]

Or develop first the infrastructure on the provinces first like Bicol for example. Kung maraming jobs available sa mga provinces, di na kailangan nilang sumiksik sa Metro Manila at laging kabawasan din sa commuters ito

[Ryuji_tanaka]

Hahaha...kaya pala tuwing may balak magtaas ng fare ayun sangdamukal na reklamo.

 

Ilang beses na binalak itaas ang fare ng lrt/mrt dati pa. Puros apela ng taong bayan.

 

Nasaan ka nun lumabas ang ganitong balita?

 

http://www.businessmirror.com.ph/opposition-to-mrt-lrt-fare-hike-mounts/

 

Ayun ...tanga na naman si Pnoy hindi kasi itinaas ang rates. You are a supporter of BBM, siguro aaminin mo na tanga rin siya kasi tinutulan din niya ito. Pogi points naman kasi ayaw ng taong bayan.

 

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2015/01/08/1410821/marcos-sees-civil-unrest-urges-aquino-stop-mrt-lrt-fare-hike

People are against it because of what the Abnoy government has done. Nagtaas nga, napunta lang sa ticketing system na di naman sira, mga Ayala lang nakinabang. Walang improvement sa train or the service.

[rooster69ph]

People are against it because of what the Abnoy government has done. Nagtaas nga, napunta lang sa ticketing system na di naman sira, mga Ayala lang nakinabang. Walang improvement sa train or the service.

Tanong...under abnoy lang ba subsudized ang fare ng lrt/mrt?

 

Have you seen the financial performance of the lrt over the years? Kumikita ba yun prior to abnoy time? Yun nga tao hindi ba tumututol sa fare hike before abnoy's term?

[haroots2]

Tanong...under abnoy lang ba subsudized ang fare ng lrt/mrt?

 

Have you seen the financial performance of the lrt over the years? Kumikita ba yun prior to abnoy time? Yun nga tao hindi ba tumututol sa fare hike before abnoy's term?

 

LRT was better managed. They upgraded their trains before it starts to deteriorate.

 

Nagumpisa lang naman magkaproblema ang MRT nung pinalitan ni Mar (as DOTC Sec.) yung maintenance provider ng MRT which is an incompetent one.

[rooster69ph]

LRT was better managed. They upgraded their trains before it starts to deteriorate.

 

Nagumpisa lang naman magkaproblema ang MRT nung pinalitan ni Mar (as DOTC Sec.) yung maintenance provider ng MRT which is an incompetent one.

Pero ang tanong, nun gustong magtaas ng fare even before the time of abnoy, wala bang umalma? Mukhang di mo sinagot.

 

Kapag nalulugi at walang panggastos sa maintenance for a long time natural isang araw masisira ito. Malas ni pnoy siya ang inabutan

Edited May 27, 2016 by rooster69ph

[haroots2]

Pero ang tanong, nun gustong magtaas ng fare even before the time of abnoy, wala bang umalma? Mukhang di mo sinagot.

 

Kapag nalulugi at walang panggastos sa maintenance for a long time natural isang araw masisira ito. Malas ni pnoy siya ang inabutan

 

Ang maingay lang naman umalma ay yung mga militante na walang lam gawin kundi mag rally. Matagal na ring tumaas ang pamasahe pero wala pa rin asenso yung MRT and wala naman na nagrarally kasi lipas na yung issue. Ang bottom line ko rito is kung incompetent yung pinili mong maintenance provider (usually napipili lang ang incompetent pag may lagayan sa ahensya) kahit P100 kada trip papalpak parin yung operation ng MRT. Kaya nga isa ito sa malaking dahilan ng pagkatalo ni Mar sa eleksyon.