Build A Model Body!

[Equus]

true true... theory lang nga yan actually... except for the laws and principles that govern them... since einstein ang may kasalanan ng lahat... although there have been actual experiments that did prove the electron thing.... the cloudy mass that I was referring to earlier was really observed already... I forgot what it was called... CERN is now the foremost authority on the quantum science and grabe the stuff that they do there...

[Equus]

Erwin Shcroedinger bro...

[Pitviper]

My opinion lang po ha, mas ok siguro if one does more intense cardio pero short lang since one consumes more energy doing that kumpara sa mahaba at matagal na cardio. Lahat kasi ng nakita ko na athlete or person na short lang mag cardio pero pukpukan e mas lean at built kaysa sa mga nakita ko na matagal mag cardio. Pero as they say, siguro kasi madami ayaw ng nahihirapan kaya mas gugustuhin mag "cruise"

[yogi]

try ASHTANGA Yoga

[Equus]

My opinion lang po ha, mas ok siguro if one does more intense cardio pero short lang since one consumes more energy doing that kumpara sa mahaba at matagal na cardio. Lahat kasi ng nakita ko na athlete or person na short lang mag cardio pero pukpukan e mas lean at built kaysa sa mga nakita ko na matagal mag cardio. Pero as they say, siguro kasi madami ayaw ng nahihirapan kaya mas gugustuhin mag "cruise"

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actually its not about the cruise... its old traditional fitness thinking na nagsasabi na kailangan long drawn out cardio for fat loss.... nope... long drawn out cardio, once or twice a week for general fitness... not weight loss...

[yogi]

Ashtanga (Power Yoga) the preferred choice for athletes, Ashtanga yoga is light on meditation but heavy on developing strength and stamina. The poses are more difficult than those performed in other styles, students move quickly from one pose to another in an effort to build strength and flexibility.

 

This style is suitable for anyone in reasonable physical condition but should be avoided by those who are new to exercise. Even the "beginners" routines are a physically demanding workout. Ashtanga yoga takes students through a warming up of the body to "activate" the muscles.

 

Students move from one pose to another in a continual flow and combine the inhale and exhale of the breath with movements. This physically demanding yoga was developed to build strength, flexibility, and stamina.

 

Ashtanga yoga is becoming very popular. Expect the teacher to move the students through a sequence of poses, which is practiced, until it is mastered to some degree and the fundamentals completely understood. Then the student moves on to practice another series of poses that are more difficult, but the foundations are the same.

 

The series of poses involves weaving in a combination of standing, seated, backbends, inversions, balancing, and twisting poses into sun salutation poses which include a standing forward bend, upward dog, downward dog, and other poses.

 

There is a focus on breath control and focal point of the eyes as the students do a specific prescribed series of poses, moving gracefully from one to another. It is very beneficial for the body to be warm and/or the room to be heated as one does ashtanga, this will help the muscles to be very flexible, and help the body avoid strains due to the physically demanding style of ashtanga.

 

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[Olympus]

actually its not about the cruise... its old traditional fitness thinking na nagsasabi na kailangan long drawn out cardio for fat loss.... nope... long drawn out cardio, once or twice a week for general fitness... not weight loss...

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As they say old habits are hard to break

[sir_boss_master]

i heard that Bikram yoga is the most effective method of yoga for weight loss and developing strenght.

[Olympus]

Pag short intense cardio, CARBO ang nagagamit mong energy source.

 

Pag Long less intense cardio, Fat ang nagagamit mo.

 

It depends on the person kung ano nagwowork sa knya....

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And where did you get this? If fat is being used during long sessions, then why has it been published in several journals that aerobic energy system work tends to put the body in a catabolic state as compared to anaerobic energy system work, which tends to improve metabolic conditioning and improves EPOC and fat burning of the human body?

[Equus]

thats exactly why i loved to read the stuff that olympus has been posting... believe me, if there was shred of proof that his practices were unsound, i'd be the first advocate to burning him at the stake... but upon further review there is real scientific basis... playing with metabolic rates.. using certain types of exercises to reach peak anaerobic stress levels.. i luveet...

[Olympus]

To be perfectly honest, I have yet to meet anyone who has not shed off inchs and burnt fat using either HIIT or the Tabata method. i have also seen a few guys in our gym get even leaner using a Crossfit WOD. one of them won a silver medal last week at the LVM powerlifting championships and this guy is not only strong, but has a six pack to show.

[Eclipseguy]

To be perfectly honest, I have yet to meet anyone who has not shed off inchs and burnt fat using either HIIT or the Tabata method. i have also seen a few guys in our gym get even leaner using a Crossfit WOD. one of them won a silver medal last week at the LVM powerlifting championships and this guy is not only strong, but has a six pack to show.

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Even most of the guys have lost at least 20lbs of fat while gaining equal amounts of muscle just by doing heavy basic lifting plus cleaning up their diets, meaning balancing their protein and carbs in each meal. It's all about diet and lifting heavy. The "cardio conspiracy" that was started by the Cooper Institute still has a stranglehold over what people believe. All I can say in response to that is to look at all of the fat people who do back-to-back aerobics class. Most make no change (still fat) after over a year of consistant aerobics.

[Eclipseguy]

Even most of the guys have lost at least 20lbs of fat while gaining equal amounts of muscle just by doing heavy basic lifting plus cleaning up their diets, meaning balancing their protein and carbs in each meal.  It's all about diet and lifting heavy.  The "cardio conspiracy" that was started by the Cooper Institute still has a stranglehold over what people believe.  All I can say in response to that is to look at all of the fat people who do back-to-back aerobics class.  Most make no change (still fat) after over a year of consistant aerobics.

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I should say that a few of the aero-junkies do lose weight...but only if they couple it with strength training. The fundamental problem with these discussions and those who preach long cardio is that this a thread about building a model body....not how to win a Mr. Punyverse title via hours of cardio that will eat up both fat and muscle.

[Eclipseguy]

thats exactly why i loved to read the stuff that olympus has been posting... believe me, if there was shred of proof that his practices were unsound, i'd be the first advocate to burning him at the stake... but upon further review there is real scientific basis... playing with metabolic rates.. using certain types of exercises to reach peak anaerobic stress levels.. i luveet...

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Exactly...this is real science at work, conducted or verified by ourselves in our own human performance lab aka "The Dungeon". There's too much talk about weight loss theory on this board...and that is one of the problems with the industry. The industry as a whole needs to start listening to the real athletes who have been in the trenches for over a decade or more.

 

I've done the long cardio route as have many of my co-athetes. We've all turned into little stick boys as a result. We might have had abs, but our arms and legs looked like pipe-cleaners. We need to stick to the short bursts of cardio and metabolic manipulation that will give well-built abs...as well as the rest of the body to match :cool:

[Pepeng Manas]

im with andrean48... started doing cardio a year ago. my abs was 34-35in then. now, i have a 30-inch ab (not a lot of loss for a span of 1 year, but i also am not serious about dieting). as i've posted a couple of pages ago, i do not lift weights seriously. wala ako program na sinusunod, i even rarely do ab exercises. nagcoconcentrate lang ako sa 1-hour treadmill. last year, i weighted around 148-150 lbs. now, im a lean 125-128-pounder.

 

but dont get me wrong, guys... particularly sir olympus and sir equus. i am not saying you are wrong. what you say also makes a lot of sense. of course, bigger muscles means more energy (or calories) used to feed those hungry muscles. therefore, more efficient fat burning. and... i am not in a position to tell you guys you are wrong because you also have proven what you are saying, right? all i am saying is that long, less intense cardio worked for me.