Alucard Posted March 12, 2006 Share Posted March 12, 2006 Maybe im just stupid or too busy to learn it. But I installed Linux before but couldn't understand it. So i just removed it and went back to windows.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Read materials and resources about linux. It's a great and secure Operating System once you learn how to harness its capabilities Ako I'm not an expert in linux, newbie din ako pero just like any new other stuff that we handle ang kailangan nito is to study, study study!! Quote Link to comment
Ferrum Posted March 15, 2006 Share Posted March 15, 2006 I agree that study study study. But im just too busy. If i have time id rather go to an MP or something like that. :-) Quote Link to comment
hitomi Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 where can one go to learn linux? are there schools here in the Philippines offering classes on it? Quote Link to comment
awkward Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 I hav ubuntu linux.. whats the diff. between ubuntu and red hat? Quote Link to comment
rpgfan Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 where can one go to learn linux? are there schools here in the Philippines offering classes on it?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> From what I've seen, Informatics offers courses in Linux. Just go to any of their branches in the malls and inquire. Quote Link to comment
Phrozhen.Khold Posted March 16, 2006 Share Posted March 16, 2006 If you guys want to use linux without jeopardizing your windows system... why not use VMWare? One more thing... no need to enroll in schools like Informatics (no offense) just to learn Linux... there are a lot of ebooks that most of these schools use as a resource material... just search for them :hypocritesmiley: Quote Link to comment
hitomi Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 question ulit guys, has anyone tried Ubuntu Lite? ok ba? ano itsura? kamukha ng desktop ng ubuntu? parang anak siya ng ubuntu para sa mga lumang computer na mahina ang memory at hardware. Quote Link to comment
momo_aswang Posted March 17, 2006 Share Posted March 17, 2006 where can one go to learn linux? are there schools here in the Philippines offering classes on it?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sa Meralco Foundation sa ortigas Quote Link to comment
Phrozhen.Khold Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Meralco Foundation is a good place to start... I heard they even offer cetification courses... Quote Link to comment
BlackWizard Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Meralco Foundation mismo.. Quote Link to comment
R@v3n Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 If you guys want to use linux without jeopardizing your windows system... why not use VMWare? One more thing... no need to enroll in schools like Informatics (no offense) just to learn Linux... there are a lot of ebooks that most of these schools use as a resource material... just search for them :hypocritesmiley: <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I totally agree. If you still need to go to school just to learn Linux, you're wasting your money on something which can be learned for free and quite easily. More so if you're familiar with the command line on Windows or DOS. It's just a matter of some command, syntax, GUI options etc., etc. :headsetsmiley: Quote Link to comment
Trace-z Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Anyone of you tried using Professional Hackers Linux Assault Kit? Quote Link to comment
dauphin74 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 I totally agree. If you still need to go to school just to learn Linux, you're wasting your money on something which can be learned for free and quite easily. More so if you're familiar with the command line on Windows or DOS. It's just a matter of some command, syntax, GUI options etc., etc. :headsetsmiley:<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hi Everyone, For those interested to know more about Linux, you may visit this site: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/ From here, you may download html/pdf versions of manuals on how to install RedHat Linux and also steps on how to install and configure other network services. Knowledge gained here can easily be used on other Linux distributions with perhaps minor adjustments. Good luck! :headsetsmiley: Quote Link to comment
Guest Leviticus Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 question sa mga nagtry na ng linux... para guide na rin sa akin and shortcut. is there a way na paganahin ang yahoo messenger webcam on linux? last I browsed ayaw eh :cry: Quote Link to comment
momo_aswang Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Anyone of you tried using Professional Hackers Linux Assault Kit?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hindi ko sir alam yan, Bago ba yan?? ano tools and features ang included dito? Quote Link to comment
l3v3l Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 question sa mga nagtry na ng linux... para guide na rin sa akin and shortcut. is there a way na paganahin ang yahoo messenger webcam on linux? last I browsed ayaw eh :cry:<{POST_SNAPBACK}> paganahin nyo po muna yung webcam nyo.... try it on some open-source IM clients like gaim orekiga..if gumana na..then you can yahoo away... Quote Link to comment
Phrozhen.Khold Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Thats one good thing about open source progs... you can always tweak it to your preference... just be sure that you have a back-up incase things go wrong... The best thing about linux is that it doesnt eat a ton of resource to run... heck it could run on a 486 box... i doubt if you could run XP on those... Quote Link to comment
Trace-z Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Hindi ko sir alam yan, Bago ba yan?? ano tools and features ang included dito?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Try it... http://www.phlak.org/modules/news/ Quote Link to comment
Trace-z Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Hindi ko sir alam yan, Bago ba yan?? ano tools and features ang included dito?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> http://www.phlak.org/modules/sections/inde...article&artid=1 Quote Link to comment
dylanramses2002 Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 fedora core 4 user here.tried suse9.3,ubuntu and kubuntu and also linspire. Quote Link to comment
Screwtape Posted May 9, 2006 Share Posted May 9, 2006 Linux Security is all really a state of mind. Back then, there werent a lot of security issues with it because not a lot of people have really been using it. A lot have been using it for Servers, but not for Desktops. But now that there are... the hackers have more reasons to write intrusive programs so we see these starting to come out of the woodworks. If you really think about it, Linux would be the most vulnerable to attacks since the source code of the kernel is available to anyone and there's no need to reverse engineer any of the OS modules to figure out how it works.. except of course for the commercial releases like RedHat, etc. So I guess it really boils down to the fact that we know that at least for the most of these technical hackers, we know that they are obviously more sympathetic to the open source movement, than they are to the Evil Empire. As far as market share is concerned, Linux still remains to occupy the server niche more than the desktop users and I don't really see it tipping to the other end in the near future. Quote Link to comment
hitomi Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 fedora core 4 user here.tried suse9.3,ubuntu and kubuntu and also linspire.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> fedora is a commercial release right? where didja buy it and for how much? i hear its more user friendly than other linux releases. Quote Link to comment
R@v3n Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Linux Security is all really a state of mind. Back then, there werent a lot of security issues with it because not a lot of people have really been using it. A lot have been using it for Servers, but not for Desktops. But now that there are... the hackers have more reasons to write intrusive programs so we see these starting to come out of the woodworks. If you really think about it, Linux would be the most vulnerable to attacks since the source code of the kernel is available to anyone and there's no need to reverse engineer any of the OS modules to figure out how it works.. except of course for the commercial releases like RedHat, etc. So I guess it really boils down to the fact that we know that at least for the most of these technical hackers, we know that they are obviously more sympathetic to the open source movement, than they are to the Evil Empire. As far as market share is concerned, Linux still remains to occupy the server niche more than the desktop users and I don't really see it tipping to the other end in the near future.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Just because the source code is freely viewable by everyone doesn't mean that it is less secure. It can also mean that there are also more people able to audit the code thereby leading to a reduction in overall vulnerability. Also, because there are more people willing to volunteer their time to maintain the code, even vulnerabilities that are discovered can be patched a lot quicker than closed source solutions. :headsetsmiley: Quote Link to comment
Guest Leviticus Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 fedora is a commercial release right? where didja buy it and for how much? i hear its more user friendly than other linux releases.<{POST_SNAPBACK}>fedora is the beta for red hat (if you look it up, fedora is a kind of hat too ). It can be downloaded from the internet. the latest release (core 5) is more user-friendly than its predecesors; including RHE 4 Quote Link to comment
Screwtape Posted May 10, 2006 Share Posted May 10, 2006 Just because the source code is freely viewable by everyone doesn't mean that it is less secure. It can also mean that there are also more people able to audit the code thereby leading to a reduction in overall vulnerability. Also, because there are more people willing to volunteer their time to maintain the code, even vulnerabilities that are discovered can be patched a lot quicker than closed source solutions. :headsetsmiley:<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Of course... this has always been the core tenet of the GNU GPL. I would've expected some counter ramblings about real architecture issues.... My first point is still... you cannot deny that Windows will always remain to be the biggest target of malicious code simply because of the larger user base. And because of that, there is simply more to gain from attacking it rather than something that is is used by a niche market. Second, and I offer a slightly different point here... Is that security in LINUX or UNIX-based systems and Windows are essentially different. The main difference is really because Widnows architecture was geared towards makig things easier for the user, while LINUX/UNIX is geared towards server use... regardless of giving the users (which would be the admins) extra steps to follow in order to effect the act. Let's try to articulate all of these rather than simply give a sweeping statement that LINUX or UNIX-based systems are more "secure" which everybody seems to drop as an easy line. Windows for example makes it easier for a user to execute programs and run protocols wihtout the user knowing fully well what is happening or what is necessary to happen underneath. For example when you open an email attachment, all you have to do is click and the app launches. In fact, it was even allowed to execute the app from the preview pane. In Linux, everything would have to be explicit like saving the attachment and giving the attachment execution rights. Even if the malicious code ran, it would only have the potential to damage those that are within that user's /home directory. Meaning the system files will always be secure. The only way it could really cause serious system havoc is if it was ran from the root account. Which is why I also recommended never to use root for "daily" tasks in another thread. This is where I would like to offer a different perspective since I beleive the focus is on home users switching to LINUX because of it's "security". If a Linux virus wrecked havoc in your /home directory, your personal files are the number 1 target. Other users arent affected, and the system sure as hell won't be affected. No crash. No system failure. No corrupted system file. System is secure so to speak.... unless you are stupid enough to run it using root of course. But are the system files really more important than your personal files? That my friends, is a question that can be answered by every average Joe user. So in the end, potential devastation that malicious code can bring to LINUX is the same for Windows, at least for the kind of data that really matters to the home user. Now, if we were talking about servers, then that's a different story. Quote Link to comment
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