Kyle_Rayner Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Like everyone said, could've gone either way. No complaints here even if Marquez won. They were saying JMM hit MP with more punches and they were right. The judges did give JMM the rounds where he made more punches, a score of 10-9 for those rounds. However, there were more rounds when Manny landed the harder blows (look at rounds 3, with a KD, and 10). It wasn't a convincing performance but it was better than his previous fights. It was actually his best if you'll compare that against his bouts vs Larrios, Solis and Barrera. Marquez is way superior than those 3 and was even more dangerous since he really prepared for this match. I don't agree to people saying that Manny lost his touch. Juan Manuel Marquez ang kalaban nya and di sya kung sino lang. Both are at their best. Parang pinaglaban mo ang Pingping at Mila's lechon, parehong masarap, sa sarsa lang magkakatalo, hehehe . Mas maganda sana if Manny won via KO. Well, congrats to the new champ, Manny Pacquiao! :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 If it was AMATEUR boxing, I have no doubt that MARQUEZ won the fight. But this is PRO-BOXING. Marquez clearly had more shots, but Manny landed more EFFECTIVE shots. Yanig ang tuhod ni Marquez whenever Manny hits the mark! But like Seeingkith here, I too acknowledge the decision could have gone either way. JUDGE'S DISCRETION ang tawag dyan. The cookie crumbled our way, this time around, I am NOT ABOUT TO PROTEST THAT! GREAT FIGHT! I have nothig but respect for JMM... pero MABUHAY ANG BATA NATIN! MAAAAAAAHHHHH-NEEEEEEEE! Quote Link to comment
pabling Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 If it was AMATEUR boxing, I have no doubt that MARQUEZ won the fight. But this is PRO-BOXING. Marquez clearly had more shots, but Manny landed more EFFECTIVE shots. Yanig ang tuhod ni Marquez whenever Manny hits the mark! But like Seeingkith here, I too acknowledge the decision could have gone either way. JUDGE'S DISCRETION ang tawag dyan. The cookie crumbled our way, this time around, I am NOT ABOUT TO PROTEST THAT! GREAT FIGHT! I have nothig but respect for JMM... pero MABUHAY ANG BATA NATIN! MAAAAAAAHHHHH-NEEEEEEEE! exactly Quote Link to comment
kadafy Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 sana lang may rematch...this year... Quote Link to comment
P!£¥0_b¥_NaTuRe Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 well if you tell me JMM has MP a run for his money if it wasn't for that 3 rounder knock down... Manny doesn't have the slightest idea how to counter Marquez's counter punch tough not strong enough punches to knock manny down did earn him a lot of points... imagine being down and still be able to match the score cards... unbelievable... a great boxer indeed...well to bad... he lost by a point... guess what he still has the chance to grab his title again... if that happens manny has to figure out how to beat that counter... with more speed and accuracy di pwede kay marquez ang tira bara-bara ni paciao... marquez is to good to be caught twice... Quote Link to comment
kadafy Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 i think 'yung sayang na round dun was rd4. JMM was still dizzy from the previous round KD. wala syang bounce, flat ang paa and makikita mo sa mga mata nya na he's not yet "back" MP should've exploited that. kaya lang masyadong tentative si MP. MP can take JMM's punches, he should've taken his chances & shoul've started lounging in and went for the k*ll nung early minutes nung rd4 Quote Link to comment
dyakhardy Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 a win is a win and a win.... Quote Link to comment
HurinThalion Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 (edited) Well, the way I saw it Marquez was more deserving of retaining the championship belt. I believe when in doubt, the victory should awarded to the champion. Kailangang patunayan ng challenger na siya ang dapat talagang maging champion. In this case, gulpe sarado si manny, hindi convincing kung baga .... Hayy swerte ng kumag! Anyway, iyak na lang mga mexicano ... talagang ganun ... Edited March 17, 2008 by HurinThalion Quote Link to comment
skitz Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 (edited) ^^ Parehong gulpe sarado yung dalawa. At kung pag-ba-basehan ang "damage report" mas madalas ang muntikang ma-knockout si JMM. Kaya nga more "effective punches" si Pacman versus "more scoring punches" kay JMM. Decision could've gone either way... but I'm glad it went "our" way! Edited March 17, 2008 by skitz Quote Link to comment
djrs Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/natas206/almostkd.gif JMM: Etong sayo! MP: Ay! naku po! (umilag) etong sayo! JMM: Argghhh... asan na si Pacman? san galing yun? CROWD: Tapusin! Tapusin! Tapusin! Tapusin! Quote Link to comment
kadafy Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 masyado din kasi ang expectation ng mga tao kay MP. kaya siguro hindi sila "convinced". sabi nga sa isang report, "the people left their seats wanting more"... Quote Link to comment
anton7270me Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Same here para saken = Winning is winning ..... kahit 1 point lang advantage ni Pacman - panalo pa rin. Medyo kinabahan din ako ........ debatable ang scoring every rounds - its natural pero walang controversy sa final scoring ng judges - panalo talaga. Ang hirap kase ........ kabwisit si Chino Trinidad :thumbsdownsmiley: sa pagcover ng fight nato. Nasobrahan yata ng review kay JMM n kahit round ni Pacman ..... super built-up pa rin sa kalaban. Hindi ko ma-gets motibo nya, gusto nya yatang palabasin na "Puso :heart: " n lang ang nagpanalo kay Pacman - pero nasobrahan naman yata sya dito. I would suggest sa mga dude natin na In favor kay JMM, try to watch it again w/o the volume. I just did ........ mas na-appreciate ko pagkapanalo ng kababayan natin. Peace. :mtc: Quote Link to comment
wd_400 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 (edited) http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c217/natas206/almostkd.gifhttp://www.photopile.com/photos/dantzu/auctions/307706.gifsarap panoorin ... Edited March 17, 2008 by wd_400 Quote Link to comment
greenarrow Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 PACQUIAO WON BY SPLIT DECISION BUT TEAM MARQUEZ CLAIMED THERE IS MYSTERY IN WIN By Rod MijaresPhilBoxing.comMon, 17 Mar 2008 http://philboxing.com/news/story-15654.html Punch-stats: Marquez connects more blows http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Sports&p=49&type=2&sec=30&aid=20080316118 Quote Link to comment
bill_262003 Posted March 17, 2008 Share Posted March 17, 2008 Same here para saken = Winning is winning ..... kahit 1 point lang advantage ni Pacman - panalo pa rin. Medyo kinabahan din ako ........ debatable ang scoring every rounds - its natural pero walang controversy sa final scoring ng judges - panalo talaga. Ang hirap kase ........ kabwisit si Chino Trinidad :thumbsdownsmiley: sa pagcover ng fight nato. Nasobrahan yata ng review kay JMM n kahit round ni Pacman ..... super built-up pa rin sa kalaban. Hindi ko ma-gets motibo nya, gusto nya yatang palabasin na "Puso :heart: " n lang ang nagpanalo kay Pacman - pero nasobrahan naman yata sya dito. I would suggest sa mga dude natin na In favor kay JMM, try to watch it again w/o the volume. I just did ........ mas na-appreciate ko pagkapanalo ng kababayan natin. Peace. :mtc: Well in fairness kay Chino Trinidad, this has been one of the most unbiased commentating they did. When I watch Pacman fight, sobrang biased mag commentate mga commentators natin IN FAVOR of PACQUIAO. In this fight, medyo fair yung commentating nila with a boxer by their side also scoring. Again, even if you look at international commentators, look at Sports Illustrated, Fox News, MaxBoxing, etc. all of them indicated that the fight could have gone either way. And in all of their "unofficial scorecard" they had Marquez winning 114-113. BUT NONE OF THEM says that the JMM was robbed of a victory, because the truth is both was deserving. Even I had Marquez winning slightly or at most a draw would happen. But who cares? The judges already made their call, and I am not complaining. Pacman won, and we're all happy. Quote Link to comment
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