Edmund Dantes

Its really hard to understand each other in a debate if your on the other side of the fence but haven't experience the other side. If you read previous post, those who have a problem falling in love with these girls, when they confide it with their friends they sometimes laugh and can't understand their friend what he did. That's simply because they haven't been there and will never understand it. On the good side they are the one who can advice you to do the contrary like Sir Edmund do. But its really case to case basis per individual. Hind lang naman mga babaeng sa ganitong kalakaran ang pwedeng manloko sa iyo. Maraming babae din dyan na edukada and have a nice job na nanlalalake rin and iiwan ka rin to be with the other man ( sometimes its even because of money that they are more rich tahn you). The percentage is against you so I agree why the risk? But all relationships are with risks.

Another point is men don't easily fall in love with these women because they have sex or deep intimacy. If it is, most men fall in love with different girls weekly which I don't see anyone post here like that. Most of the guys here in MTC goes to different MPs, KTVs and Spas weekly and they don't fall in love to every girl they have intimacy with. They fall in love because they had connection with each other just like any ordinary man and woman when they meet and have a date.

Ganito yan, sa isang banda, mahirap maintindihan ang pinagdadaanan ng isang tao kung wala ka sa lugar nya tama yun. Pero hindi naman komo emotionally detached yung isang tao sa issue ibig sabihin wala na syang puso, pinagtatawanan na yung kalagayan ng kaibigan, mababa tingin sa mga babaeng may ganitong trabaho etc. Objective lang sila at hindi nagpapaka-OA masyado. There are pros and cons to listening to someone who sees the issue objectively. Pag ang isang tao kasi lasing sa emosyon nya minsan hindi iniisip ng mabuti ang mga ginagawa nya. Manunumbat lang ng "Eh hindi nyo kasi naiintindihan nararamdaman ko!". OO nga, pero ang tanong naiintindihan mo pa ba ginagawa mo? Bottomline hindi rin maganda na puro ka emosyon. Mainam din na makinig ka sa taong objective lang, tapos saka mo timbangin ng maayos. Kahit naman si Rearden, nagsabing hindi ka dapat magumpisa ng relasyon dahil tingin mo mahal mo nga.

As to men falling in love after sex, oh believe me may mga taong ganito. Backread na lang tayo ng konti. At may thread din about falling in love after sex. May mga taong sadyang madali makinig sa mga emosyon nila. Madali mainlove. Lalo pa kung nakahanap ng babae sa panahon na emotionally vulnerable sila at naghahanap ng konting pagkalinga. At ito yung sinasabi kong delikado. Come on, let us admit na when a person is emotionally drunk, emosyon na nagdidikta sa pagiisip. Lahat ng pangangatwiran kahit baluktot na gagamitin para magkaroon lang ng justification ginagawa.

Pero sabi ko naman, to those who have found someone from the trade. Eh di good luck and I wish them all the best. I sincerely mean it, kasi naranasan ko na din naman masaktan at alam ko kung gaano kahirap. Tama ka may mga babae din na may pinagaralan at disente na pwedeng pwede ka saktan, but that is besides the issue. Sa ibang thread na yun dapat pagusapan. Ang sinasabi ko is nothing more but my personal opinion and preference. You got yours I got mine. Its up to you to agree or not. I can live with that.

Lastly, if you are truly happy with your relationship then there is no need pissing yourself off reading comments that dont validate your decision or feelings. Some people kasi are just pathetic desperately fighting for that validation. Why should the post of people like me make you feel insecure if you really know what you are doing

Pasensya na gms kung matagal na akong off-topic.

 

Para sa iyo parekoy at sa lahat nanag kagaya mo, ganito na lang para matapos na ito;

 

Punta ka ktv, mp o espakol

 

Kaibiganin mo gro, moa at therapist

 

Sa loob at sa labas ng cubicle

 

Gawin mo sa loob ng 1 o 2 taon

 

Tapos mag post ka dito at tawagin mo silang whore.

 

Pag nagawa mo yan, panalo ka na parekoy.

Ok sige, parekoy, ikaw yata ito eh hehehehe

nakaka-aliw naman basahin.

 

anyway for the sake sa topic na to "I'll say that you don't have the right to judge them" Kung ang panahon nagbabago how much more ang tao may utak at puso.

Hehehe, kaaliw ba?

Wala naman nanghuhusga dito, discussion thread lang naman ito. Lahat tayo may kanya kanyang pananaw sa issue na ito. For some guys, ayaw pumusta dito kasi ayaw masaktan at matalo. For some naman, gusto sumugal at handa makipaglaban bahala na kung masaktan. Ok lang naman pareho. Ang problema, may mga OA kasi na gusto pa yata ng validation at gusto magpaka white night. Hehehe.

Sinulat ni antwanshakeel;

 

na tama ka edmund dantes. ONCE A WHORE, ALWAYS A WHORE.

 

Ngayon sinabi mo na Yeah I am with you brother

 

Nuong una, naaawa ako sa iyo kasi niloko ka ng babaeng tinuring mong malinis.

 

Naawa ako sa iyo kasi punong- puno ka ng puot sa malinis na babaeng nanloko sa iyo na kahit ka mapunta sa impiyerno gusto mong gumanti.

 

Naawa ako sa iyo kasi sa pagsasalita sa mga bagay na wala kang alam at karanasan at nagpapanggap kang may alam.

 

Wala kang respeto sa mga babae sa industriyang ito sa pagtawag sa kanila ng whore.

 

Pero mas naaawa ako sa iyo ngayon kaysa nuon kasi kahit sa sarili mo wala kang respeto, hindi mo kayang tindigan binitawan mong salita.

Ano ba yan, linggong linggo inabangan mo talaga magiging sagot ko. Ano ito? nagpapaka White night ka? bakit pag nabasa ng GF mo o ng mga nasa kalakaran na ito na MTC members din makakakuha ka ng sangkatutak na BJ? Sus. Grabe ang serious din naman ng issue mo. Ako nakikipagusap lang sa thread na ito, discussion lang ito para sakin. Pero ikaw kinakareer mo na at gusto mo na lang mamersonal, which is low and pathetic. Be man naman, hindi yang ganyan na you weasel through your alternicks and throw plenty of cheap shots.

Ang salitang "whore" hindi yan sakin nangaling. Si antwanshakeel ang gumamit ng salita yan, bat ako lang pinagdidiskitahan mo? Kung nagagree man sya sakin, eh ano naman? Sinabihan ko ba sya na yan ang gamitin nyang salita? Mapipigilan ko ba sya? Hindi ko naman sya kinulam para sabihin gamitin salita na yan. Kung nagagree din ako sa kanya, nagagree ako sa GIST ng sinasabi nya. Yun lang yun. NGayon, bakit hindi mo hinahalukay post nya at hanapan ng baho para maipahiya mo sila.

Ano bang problema mo talaga parekoy? Masyado kang nasasaktan para sa GF mo dahil may mga iba na ang baba sa tingin ng trabaho nya? namanamaaaaan. Eh hindi ka dapat maglog in dito sa MTC. Ang dami dami dyan thread na palitan ng FR tungkol sa mga serbisyong nakukuha nila, may rating system pa na parang mga produkto lang sila sa grocery na kinukumpara.

Ikaw ang nakakaawa sa totoo lang. Kasi, ang tindi ng insecurtiy mo. Kung secured ka sa relasyon mo, bakit ka sobrang apektado sa mga opinion ng tulad ko? Kaw na nagsabi sinungaling ako walang alam blah blah blah. Then all the more na may dahilan ka na huwag maapektohan di ba? Kung gusto mong tratuhin na prinsesa lahat ng GRO, Thera, at kung ano ano pa, eh di sige lang. Trip mo yan eh. Buhay mo naman yan.

Lastly, huwag mo na sayangin oras mo kakaungat ng personal kong mga problema dahil unang una wala yun kinalaman sa issue ng thread. Pangalawa, lahat naman ng tao siguro na pumapasok sa relasyon nararanasan minsan sa buhay nya ang masaktan. Wala naman taong perpekto, lahat nagkakamali sa mga desisyon. Kung tutuusin, mas marami pa dyan ang matindi pa sinapit sakin. Kaya hindi ko sasabihin na perpekto ako. Pangatlo at least kaya kong harapin issues ko, hindi ako in denial kagaya mo. Ikaw ang tindi ng insecurity issues mo pero ayaw mo umamin.

Posted 15 May 2014 - 01:52 PM

 

antwanshakeel,on 15 May 2014 - 01:31 PM, said:

 

Tama ka edmund dantes. ONCE A WHORE, ALWAYS A WHORE.

Never get involved with one. They will do everything to get your money. At kungtotoo man na ma inlove sila sa yo, iiwanan ka dn pagnakahanap ng may magbigayng higit pa. And ndi lang yun, pagnagkita yun at former guests nila pupuslitanka nyan.

 

Yeah Im with you brother

 

Call me an assh*le or mayabang, but I dont really see myself seriously startingsomething with someone who has a long history of intimacy sa iba't ibanglalake. Be it a sex worker, or the local slut sa mga gimikan. Kahit pa sabihing they are out of the game, mahirap pa dinmagtiwala sa ganito. Hindi ko naman sinasabi dapat yung babae virgin. Pero dapat malinis, at hindi yungmadali hawakan ng kung sino sino.

 

Why? Kasi in the future, pag wala na kayo sa infatuation phase, at bigla nalang kayong magaaway, baka maungkat pa itong history na ito at mainsecure kalang. Isa pa, there is no telling na if magkaproblema kayo in the future, baka manlalake lang yung babae. And you know theywould be comfortable with it, kasi minsan sa buhay nila nasanay na sila magpahawak sa kung kani-kaninong lalake eh. I had a friendnoon na ganito yung nangyari. Wont go through the details. Lets just say hethought he could forgive the girls past. He would later learn the hard way thatits always easier said than done.

 

Kaya para sa mga parekoy dyan, maginging mautak tayo. Pumili tayo ng malinis na babae na seseryosohin. Kahit hindi virgin,basta naman huwag lang may history ng ganito. We deserve to end up with clean women naman na aalagaan tayo, hindi tayo susugal na maloko at masaktan, at bibigyan tayong mga anak na maipagmamalaki sila

 

This post has beenedited by Edmund Dantes: 15 May 2014 -01:53 PM

 

 

 

Parekoy,

 

 

Di ka lang mapanlait at mapang husga sa mga babae sa industriyang ito,

 

Di ka lang punong-puno nang poot sa nanloko sa iyo na babae na malinis, low risk, mapagmamalaki, aalagaan ka, at di nagpapahawak sa iba,

 

Di ka lang nagsasalita sa mga bagay na wala kang alam dahil wala ka namang naka relasyon o kaibigang babae sa ganitong kalakaran,

 

Sinungaling ka pa parekoy.

 

Talagang nag take time nga na humukay ng post ko. Tindi ng galit mo sakin ah. Nagantay ka pa talaga sa thread na ito para mabara lang ako hehehe

Come on, kahit dyan sa mga nahighlight mo, hindi ko pa din ginamit yang mga salitang sinasabi mo para katiguhin ang mga babaeng nasa ganitong kalakaran. Mahina ba reading comprehension mo parekoy? I was talking about my personal preference and women na maraming naging lalake in general. Niliwanag ko naman na "in the trade or not". Eh sa ayaw ko sa mga ganun for a serious partner, ano magagawa mo? Anong gusto mo? Tumulad ako sayo at mag amen sa lahat ng gusto mo? Bakit di mo na lang yun RESPETUHIN? Kasi gusto mo ng validation sa lahaaaaaaat ng lalake na tama ka?

Alam mo, simple lang kasi yan. Kung nakahanap ka ng matinong babae sa ganitong kalakaran, eh di congratulations, sana may happy ending kayo. Ikaw naman magdadala ng relasyon mo. Bakit mo kelangan ng validation mula sa mga nababasa mo sa mga thread sa internet? Just keep being happy and ignore us. Bakit masyado kang nagpapaapekto? Insecure ka ba? Kung secured ka naman sa kinakasama mo, eh ano ba ang masasabi namin na dapat ka maapektohan ng sobra, at talagang gagamit ka ng mga cheap shots makuha lang validation na gusto mo?

Ngayon kung sinasabi ko man sa mga parekoy na pumili ng malinis na babae, ano ba masama dun? Kung ok sayo na sumugal kahit ano pa background ng babae, eh di go ahead, dont read what I say, put a thumbs down, whatever. Hindi yang nagkakaganyan ka at napaka pathetic naman. Nagmumukha ka lang insecure. O nagpapaka-white knight ka para sa mga ganitong nasa industrya? Tell you what tayo ka na lang ng foundation para sa kanila at ng masuportahan mo sila makaalis sa ganitong klase ng buhay at makahanap ng lalakeng gaya mo. lolz... di nga?

Isa pa, si antwashakeel nga "whore" pa ginamit na salita, bat di mo sya kastiguhin at parang sakin lang mainit kili kili mo? dahil nag agree sya? Eh yaan mo sya. Malaya ka naman na huwag mag agree sakin nga di ba, and just keep being happy with the one you are with. If you think I am just some hypocrite na dahil ginago lang ng babae kaya nasasabi sinsabi ko, bakit mo pa ako kelangan patulan? Ano ba mapapala mo dun? Seems to me, ikaw din parekoy may issues at kelangan mo din umatend siguro ng support group ng mahimasmasan ka.

Parekoy ang problema kasi sa iyo wala kang respeto sa mga babae sa industriyang ito. Tinatawag mo silang bayaran, pokpok, slut, bitches, high risk, di mapagkakatiwalaan, maraming humahawak at marumi.

 

Dahil nabubuhay ka sa ganoong stereotype di mo maimagine sarili mo makipag relasyon sa kanila. Okay lang yun trip mo yun buhay mo yan.

 

Pero ang pagbinigay ng payo na do not short change yourselves at kumuka ka ng batong ipupukpok sa ulo mo ay di patas at makatwiran. Hinusgahan mo na lahat nang babae sa industriyang ito.

 

Tingnan mo sarili mo at karanasan mo bago ka magpayo papa jack wannabe.

 

Yung babaeng pinagusapan sa itaas na post na tumatantafo, ginago ka, di pwede pagkatiwalaan. Ang babaeng gagantihan mo maka eyeball mo man si satanas sa tartarus, sa sarili mong pag amin di siya babae sa industriyang ito di ba? Di ba malinis siya? Di ba di siya nagpapabayad? Di ba di siya hinahawakan ataw araw ng iba't-ibang lalake?

 

Pero sinaktan ka di ba?

 

So naisip mo lang pala at di mo pa nararanasan makipag relasyon sa babae dito? Di naranasan magmahal at mahalin nang totoo? Kundi pa papa jack wannabe para kang pareng katoliko na nagpapayo sa mga bagay na wala kang alam.

 

Ayusin mo muna pagpili mo ng babaeng di ka paiiyakin patekoy bago ka magpayo.

Ang OA mo naman parekoy, naglalagay ka na lang ng mga salita sa bunganga ko. hindi ko naman kahit kelan ginamit yang mga salita na nahighlight ko. Halukayin mo pa mga post ko dito kung gusto mo. Ang ginagamit kong salita "nasa kalakaran" o "in the trade". Ngayon kung tingin mo kinakastigo ko mga babaeng nasa ganitong trabaho, wala na akong magagawa. Pagintindi mo na lang yun, at hindi ko naman hawak ang pasikot sikot ng emosyon at pagiisip mo

Yung high risk at di mapagkakatiwalaan..... hmmmm medyo sobra pa din pero malapit lapit na. Hehehe. Ang sinasabi ko lang naman, gamitin ng konti utak di ba? May mga tao kasing madali mainlove, pakitaan ng konting pagaalaga, may kasamang sex pa, in love na kaagad at basta basta na lang magtitiwala. Mahirap masaktan pag tiwala at puso na pinaguusapan. Di bale na pera, kikitain mo naman yan. Yun ang sinasabi kong dont shortchange yourself. Humanap ng babaeng hindi mahirap pagkatiwalaan, hindi naman masama yun di ba?

Now tungkol naman sa mga babaeng nasa ganitong kalakaran, nandun na ako, tao din sila na marunong magmahal. Naiintindihan din natin na mahirap ang buhay at kelangan kumita ng pera. Ganun pa man, sinabi ko naman di ba na hanga ako sa mga babaeng pinasok itong trabaho na ito, pero nakuhang makaalis kahit hindi umaasa sa costumer na handang igarahe sila. Maliwanag na naman sana yun. Pero pagdating sa tiwala, papano mo masisiguro nga na yung pinapakitang affection sayo ng babae hindi nya din binibigay sa iba? Lalo kung sa lugar ng pinagtratrabahuan nya lang naman mo sya nakikita.

Hindi ko maintindihan bakit masyadong mainit kili kili mo sakin, at talagang gusto mo pa ako isingle out. Eh hindi lang naman ako nagsasabi nito. Dami dami nga dyan na nagsasabi na bad idea daw ito at masyadong high risk. Naging magalang din naman ako sa mga kausap ko lalo at alam kong salungat sa pinaniniwalaan nila paniniwala ko. Kaya nga may heads up ako lagi.

Pero discussion thread lang naman ito. May paniniwala kayo, may paniniwala din kami. Kung magbabasa ka sa mga topic na alam mong sensitibo sayo, eh tibay tibayan mo sikmura mo at tanggapin na hindi naman lahat ay a-amen lang sa mga gusto mo. Ewan ko kung bakit sobra paghihimotok mo, at gusto mo gamitin lahat ng personal na detalye sakin na wala naman kinalaman dito sa pinaguusapan. Nasa-sa iyo naman kung sa-sangayon ka o hindi sa sinasabi ko di ba?

At huli sa lahat, kung naoffend ko man GF mo, o may dahilan kung bakit di mo nagustuhan sinasabi ko, eh feel free to click the dislike button na lang. Huwag mo naman ibaba masyado sarili mo na gagamit ka pa ng 2 alternick tapos pipilitin mong hukayin lahat ng personal na detalye sakin para sirain ako. Attack the message and not the messenger. Internet lang yan parekoy, huwag mo seryosohin lahat ng mga nababasa mo to the point na kahit nga total stranger naman gusto mo na kamuhian. Yan ang totoong makakabigat sa puso mo. And for that reason, ikaw din ata parekoy kelangan ng professional help, dahil halata naman na sobrang uminit tumbong mo sa mga nabasa mo. Buti pa si rearden na direkta kong kinakausap, gentleman pa din kahit may hindi kami mapagsangayunan. Hehehhe

The Raid 2.

Hope ipapalabas siya dito sa pilipinas.

Malabo mangyari yun, medyo hindi kasi mayaman yung studio na nagproduce nito. Kaya kahit sa US wala sila gaanong puhunan para magkaroon ito ng mas malawak na release. Panoorin mo na lang sa streaming parekoy, meron ng dubbed version nito in HD quality.

Masasabi ko sa movie na ito... Astig talaga! If you thought the first raid was awesome, watch what the director can do when he takes the mayhem outside. Astig yung car chase scene, hindi lang basta habulan lang ng sasakyan, may fight scene pa sa loob ng kotse. At paborito ko yung last duel between Rama and the assasin. Maganda sa movie na ito, di tulad ng mga pelikula ni Van Damme na lagi sobrang laki lagi ng kalaban, more on technique nakafocus yung matchup.

Gusto ko din abangan yung Superman Vs Batman: Dawn of Justice. Mukhang ok naman itsura ni Ben Affleck as the new batman so far. I really hope it does better in the story telling department, and it improves the first movie

mostly compound,

but for arm days puro isolation lang halos

optimus prime lol

Edmund Dantes

05 June 2014 - 12:51 AM

I will have my revenge! If its the last thing I do I promise you! Both of you! I will have my revenge.

 

Enjoy your victory for now. Enjoy all that happiness you think you have earned, but one day, and I promise you that day will come, I will have the last laugh. The last satisfaction. Both of you will kiss my feet before you regret every insult you thrown at me or my mother.

 

You should have tried harder to k*ll me. But instead you bitches made me live. I swear even if it means the price of my soul I will have my revenge

 

Parekoy, punong-pundo ng galit ang puso mo.

 

Matuto kang magpatawad sa babaeng tumatantado sa iyo psp mpa o thera man siya.

 

Yun lang makakapagpabago sa pananaw mo sa mga babae sa industriyang ito.

 

You are giving good reasons for your perspective to mask the real reason.

 

You need professional help.

Hehehehe, mukhang may napipikon sa mga sinasabi ko at pati yung mga sinabi ko sa kabilang thread na wala naman kinalaman sa issue gagamitin na. Papano ka naman nakakasiguro na PSP thera o bayaran nga tinutukoy ko dyan hehehhe? Pero anong magagawa ko? Ayaw mo sakin at naiinis ka, kaya papaniwalaan mo kung anong tingin mong alam mo tungkol sakin.

Ganun pa man, I am a good sport. Totoo naman na sinabi ko yan, at kahit kelan di ko naman itinago na may personal din akong pinagdadaanan. And yes I am currently getting professional help. I am even attending support group meetings which help me kick my alcohol habit. So kung nirepost mo yan para ipahiya ako, Im telling you pagdating sa bagay na yan, makapal na mukha ko! . Kung clinical depression nga nakaya ko, cyberbullying pa kaya.

Pero ewan ko kung bakit kelangan natin magpakababa ng ganito, at kelangan magOA ang iilan dito. Kahit naman kelan, wala akong sinabi ng masamang panghuhusga tungkol sa mga babaeng nasa ganitong kalakaran. Kahit kelan din, hindi ko naman tinira din ang mga lalakeng gusto pasukin ang mga ganitong klaseng relasyon. Nagbibigay lang tayo ng opinyon natin tungkol sa issue. Hindi ko nga maintindihan kung bakit masyadong pinahaba ang isang bagay na simple. Ang lagi kong sinasabi, gamitin ang utak at huwag puro puso. Huwg papadehado masyado. We all deserve partners who will care for us with loyalty and trust. Sa mga nakahanap nun sa mga babaeng nasa ganitong kalakaran I geniunely wish the best of luck to all you gentlemen. Hehehehe.

At sayo naman parekoy mukhang madami kang alternick, rest assured pinapatawad na kita. O ha marunog pa din magpatwad puso ko kahit sabi mo nga puno ng galit. And dont worry I will continue seeking help.

If I may add, I understand what Rearden experienced. I did it once (still existing) and almost did it again (during tough times). You don't get these women because you want to fall in love Of coarse its sex. But in the long run you will meet someone that you are comfortable with and have connections to. You don't ask every woman you pay for sex to be together and have a relationship and they also don't accept every rich man to live with them without any some kind of love or strong connection with each other. You should be comfortable with each others attitude and principles or else the relationships will not last anyways. I know the success rate in these relationships are low as I understand Sir Edmund though I'm sure he haven't fell in love with these kind of women.

There are lots of similar stories like you have and its not only with rich men. Most are middle class man who fell in love WITH EACH OTHER and girls lived a simple life though not poor and struggling but very happy. Every woman has its stories and struggles and sometimes you just need someone to guide you on what to do. These girls are mostly did not finished schools so their self confidence, abilities and capabilities on doing other kind of work or business are very low. I even met some that their IQ are really low so don't expect them to think to do the right decisions as we do. Don't always compare on how we think and how they think. Sometime its really not the same, street smarts and book smarts are still different and some don't even have both. I really congratulate Rearden for having a successful relationships out of these but its not really all about money. If it is then she is just a martyr clinging on you because of the money which I doubt. Admit it or not money is not the only thing you guys have in making this relationship works but there is also LOVE involved. PEACE

I do expect these kind of answers from those who are emotionally involved with someone from the trade. I understand that it is impossible for me to ask them to be emotionally detached from the issue. Even of the fact that their replies will be an attempt to fight for the validation that they want for the decisions that they made. Kaya nilalawakan ko naman ang pangunawa ko.

If you guys have found your happy ending, then I wish you all the best. No pun intended on that. Sana maging sulit ang sakripisyo nyo para sa tao. Sana karapatdapat yung mga pinili nyo.

Dalawa lang naman ang sakin

1. Obligasyon ng tao buhay nya. Kung pinasok mo ang isang bagay, ikaw ang may responsibilidad na magalis sa sarili mo dyan. Tulungan mo sarili mo, at hindi yung iaasa mo yan sa iba.

O huwag na pahabain at dagadan yan dahil simple lang naman at di na kelangan lagyan pa ng madaming sahog lol.

2. Never shortchange yourself when it comes to finding a partner. Of course its impossible to expect your partner to be immaculately perfect. But at least calculate your risks properly. That is something we fail to do pag puro puso na sinusunod. Tapos magisisisi sa huli pag nasaktan.

Bro kali7 you have both insigjht and widom. You also have empathy and compassion as you were able to not only understand and see the two perspectives of rearden and edmund but also feel their hearts. Only a person who truly listens from the heart can do what you have done..

 

One thing is very clear to me because of your share - our understanding is shaped by our experiences. I just hope and pray that sir edmund who positions himself in the topics in this thread as a pap jack wannabe counselor would lear to listen more and market himself less.

Positioning myself as pap Jack Wannabe (Sino ba si jack)? Marketing myself? San naman nangaling yun? Masyado ka yata nadadala ng emosyon mo parekoy. Tulad ng iba dito, nagbibigay lang naman ako ng opinion at kuro kuro ko. Wala naman akong prino-promote na website ko para sa mga sawi sa pagibig. Im not even playing counselor here, its a discussion thread, people died so we can enjoy freedom of expression.

Yang mga truly listens from the heart na yan, maganda pakinggan sa isang linya sa pelikula o kanta ni Martin Nivera. Pero sa totoong buhay kelangan mo gumamit ng utak at may mga pagkakataong hindi mo dapat pakikingan ang puso mo. Kasi kung hindi ipapahamak ka nyan. Aminin man natin o hindi, maraming tao dyan ang madaling naloloko nagagamit at nasasaktan sa huli kasi panay puso ang ginagamit. Komo lang pinakitaan ng konting affection at intimacy in love na kaagad.

Ang sinasabi ko lang naman rearden, obligasyon ng babae alisin sarili nya sa kinalalagyan nya kung gusto nya talaga makaalis. Isa pa buti lang kasi kung pera lang isusugal mo dito. Kaso mamumuhunan ka din ng mas mataas na respeto, tiwala, at loyalty. Kelangan gamitin ng mabuti ang utak. Eh pano kung gusto ka lang perahan ng babae tapos iiwan ka din pag nakuha na yung puhunan na kelangan nya? Eh di ikaw itong iiyak iyak sa huli at magagalit pa sa sarili mo kasi ang tanga mo?

Kung tao ka na may pera at handa magbigay ng pagmamahal at tiwala, bakit mo ishortchange sarili mo? Magsiguro ka na ng konti. Madami naman dyan na mas pwede mong macalculate ng mabuti yung risks mo.

As for rearden, if he found his happy ending at tingin sulit ginawa nya, then of course I wish him all the best.

it's not complicated, it's called thorough. why make it simple and open to interpretation that is not your point to begin with, right? that is how misunderstandings are created. even now, you try to make things "simple" when it is not.

Now you are simply just using semantics

Misunderstandings are more often created by overanalyzing something thats meant to be so simple. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best. I don't even understand why such thorough explanation and non sequitur arguments are necessary to validate something thats really supposed to be simple. Obligasyon ng tao ikakaganda ng buhay nya.

the point I was making is, "bettering our (their) lives" is not limited to your ideal of working hard, studying, opening up a business, etc. "Bettering (our) their lives" can also mean marrying rich and being a dutiful wife (or to put it in another way, "marrying wisely")

 

but of course, marrying rich is not a card everyone of this girl is dealt. what I'm saying is, if that card is dealt, and the girls turns it down for something less, that is idiotic.

 

It was never my position that these girl should wait forever for a so-called "prince charming"

So, if a girl chooses what to you is a more difficult way she is an idiot. Pero sa isang banda naman kung piliin nung babae yung tingin mong mas practical na paraan, huwag dapat husgahan at gamitin naman natin ang puso. Looks to me like you are the one making all the judgements and they are self-serving too.

No, liberty works one way, it means only one thing.

 

Sorry, but that is a strawman argument. The choice is not as you say:

"piliin ng isang babae na mas maghirap na lang kesa magpahawak sa kung kani-kaninong lalake gabi gabi"

 

The choices are:

1.) to marry rich

2.) to work hard (laboriously) to get rich

 

So this strawman argument you are making is also a red herring. I won't follow you to that new, unrelated argument.

If liberty only works one way, then its not liberty at all. Lets not make this too complicated. Bottomline is you are always given a choice. Even when a gun is being pressed against your temple. You can either get shot, or do what the man with the gun says. You are responsible for the choices that you make regardless what circumstances made it easy or difficult for you to make that decision. Those who choose to good old fashioned hard work are not idiots. That is not fair. It only means they got character. Something everyone can use.

Yes malabo.

 

Again, you can say that anecdotal stories are exemptions breaking rules, but that still does not change the rule...that exemption is disregarded. It's a fluke.

 

Don't get me wrong, that was an amazing and inspiring story, but it is irrelevant in terms of the "rule"

 

Let's put it in terms of numbers:

 

Your anecdote is the very special exemption out of say 1,000. So that is 1 vs 999. The rule is not based on the 1, it is based on the 999.

 

Do you now understand why anecdotal evidences are considered LOGICAL FLAWS?

 

Amazing? inspiring? Definitely yes, but only because it is rare and unique. But the rule is not based on the rare and unique, it is based on the very common, very ordinary.

Actually this whole argument itself is logically flawed. This is simply ad populum, or ad majoram. So whats your point? because its too "unique" and "rare" it cant be done by anyone? Or its not really that worth choosing? Like if there is 1 out of 1000 girls in the trade who manage to succeed out of good old fashioned hard work, determination and character, the other 999 cant do the same thing? Again everything simply comes down to choice. You can give me a long reply enumerating reasons why its too difficult, or not practical but all of them will just be excuses.

But that was not even the point I am making. More than ad populum or ad majoram, this is also a strawman argument. The point I was trying to make is that there are people who find peace contentment fulfillment and happiness even though they chose to better their lives to what you seem to percieve as something impractical or even idiotic. Money will not always be able to buy all of those.

Yes, money cannot be the only factor that a woman chooses her partner, but it is the most important factor, everything else can come second.

 

Again, let me reiterate, money is a MEDIUM. The medium our capitalist society uses to represent VALUE. So if a woman choses a rich man, she is subconsciouly chosing that man's value, which could means his physical strength, intelligence, etc.

Again there is no need to keep reiterating. Stop going after a mosquito with more cannon balls.

Money or what it represents is attractive. But to have a fulfilling relationship you intend to keep, you will need something more than that. End of discussion. Huwag na pahabain pa kasi.

Correct, they should be smart. Know the importance of money, and not based your decision on lust ("love") alone.

 

Too often, you read here men saying: "na-in love sila." So the f#ck what?

 

I fall in love with almost every 18 year old tight bodied piece of ass with a pretty face that I see everyday. It just means that the hormones in my body are reacting to the opposite sex. It's so banal.

Can we not keep arguing on this point only because I did not intend to go down this road in the first place. You can backread on my other posts saying that pagdating sa mga ganitong klaseng babae, huwag puros puso ang pakikingan. Gamitin din ang utak.

Ang putno lang naman dito, do not short change yourself. Kung pwede ka naman maghanap ng babae na mas madali makakabuild ng tiwala dahil alam mong hindi lang naman basta pera lang habol sayo, eh di dun ka na at umiwas na sa sakit ng ulo.

I'm not being passionate about this because I'm in this relationship. I thought you read my original post. I'm not even promoting the idea of taking care of these women.

 

The point I have been making is this, if you don't have any f#cking money, don't even bother trying to take this type of girl for yourself. Simple isn't it?

 

BTW, I think you mean "Is it worth doing this?" And what I say to that is, it's worth $(x) amount of money.

Well you are being passionate. Not promoting the idea to anyone is another issue. You are promoting this to people who share your sentiments and to yourself most of all. I am not really blaming you. We all try to fight for our validation.

Again we are only arguing about semantics here. If you had that much money and you can afford to change someones life and buy someones heart, whats worth going for someone in the trade? Ano ba mahahanap mo sa kanila na di mo mahahanap sa ibang babae? Why take the risk that she might only be after your pockets? Remember its not just really money you have to give her, because we are talking about serious lasting relationships here. Kung sex lang, eh di matagal na dapat tapos itong usapan na ito

No offense taken. And I hope you don't take offense either, prangkahan na usapan lang bro.

 

 

You are presuming that the girl put herself in that situation willingly or flippantly...where's your empathy?...some women are even forced into that life by their family. Have a heart.

 

If it's a choice between hard labor with little money, or easy work with big payoff, the smartest choice is the latter. And that is the same anywhere, like say in retail, if you had to chose between selling 1 product to have a P1M profit or sell 1 million of a certain product to earn P1M profit, what would you chose? (in this analogy, you are able to sell either)

 

Only idiots will choose the former, that's the very definition of idiocy. And f#ck everyone who thinks that you need to suffer to have a better life. That's what smart people tell the dumb people to keep the dumb people working hard and thinking that things will get better for them, while the smart ones take advantage.

 

I'm not implying that the guy has to take the girl out of poverty. She can do whatever the f#ck she wants. And if that is going with a man who promised to give her a better life, who are we to tell her she can't? Do you know what the word LIBERTY means? and why it is considered as "self-evident, inalienable right"?

 

 

 

"Pinagbili?" You mean like Michael Jordan selling his athletic abilities (and technically his body) to the Chicago Bulls franchise? or Anne Curtis selling her beauty and charms and body (as an endorser) to any company that can pay her talent fee? or a white/blue collar worker who sells her time, mind and body to a company for a salary?

 

Tama ka, buhay nya yan, and like Michael Jordan, Anne Curtis, and ordinary workers, it's her responsibility...who are we to say that there is something wrong with "pinagbili and pag-ibig at katapatan"?

News flash: Everything is for sale, that is how life works. That is part of the natural order of things. Don't think of it in the very shallow manner of just the exchange of money...money is merely the medium used in our money-based economy to measure value. Michael Jordan had his value, which the Chicago Bulls paid for in money. So does Anne Curtis, and every other working individual.

 

 

Your parents' loved you, and they paid for it, with their time, mind, and body. Did you ask them bakit nila pinagbili sarili nila para lng syo?

 

 

 

 

Mas hangga ako sa mga babae na hindi nagpakatangga, na meron ng lalaki na mahal sila and kaya sila iahon sa hirap, at pinili nila kahit na malayo ang diperensya ng estado nila sa buhay, kahit matahin pa sila ng mga inggitero/inggitera. In the end, she wins!

 

And what makes you think that women can't be in love with rich men? You do know that the basic premise of male and female relationship, is that the men flaunt their strengths while the women choose, and for humans in a capitalistic society, the measure of a man's strength is his wealth (i.e. money). For weaver birds, it's the male with the best looking nest. For the peacocks, it's the one with the biggest tail. For gorillas, it's the one who is physically strongest.

 

And it's f#cking sad, for some women, to choose to remain poor for some idiotic sense of "pride and honor" It's not pride to work yourself to death, when you could have chosen a different path and given yourself a better life, that's EGOTISM mistaken as pride. There is no honor in bearing a dozen children that you can't feed or send to school.

 

And it's so stupid when some women chose men because mabait or gwapo or may sense of humor yung lalaki, pero loser naman, walang pera and trabaho, 30 years old na palamunin pa rin ng magulang. I had an aunt, who when she was young, had a lot of rich and successful businessmen (friends of my father) interested in her, but instead she chose someone who was younger than her, no job, no money, a druggie, coz she makes her "happy"? made her laugh? now about 15-20years later, the guy she married still has no job, they have 2 children (the eldest is starting college), she just finished chemotherapy for breast cancer? and guess what, they didn't have money to treat her cancer and had to rely on her brothers and sisters.

 

 

 

 

Do you know what Anecdotal evidence is, and why it's considered a logical flaw? because these kinds of stories are considered flukes, and no rational human being should be making life decisions based on a fluke, that's just stupid.

 

Parang yung mga pyramid scheme, they use anecdotal evidence. Let's say Jose is one of the first to join the pyramid scheme, and everyone who joined the scheme keeps on selling the story that Jose was now a millionaire because of the scheme, sure that is true! but what they don't tell you is that everyone who joined after Jose, never made any significant profit at all, and most of them lost their investments...

 

So, as amazing as it is for some girls to be able to make it out of poverty without marrying some rich guy, for every one of those girls, there are hundreds who never make it out of poverty, and waste away their lives in the slum, and breed like rats, and have their daughters end up in the same situation. It's so sad and pathetic.

 

Am I saying that all these girls should look for rich husbands, f#ck no! they can do whatever the hell they want, it's their life. What I am saying is, if they do choose to marry some rich guy to get out of poverty, it is totally OK, if not the smartest thing they could have done for themselves.

 

And my point is, if you are gonna do something like make a GRO and PSP your woman, don't be an idiot and think that all you need is "love"...that's bullshit! What you need is money, whether she is a GRO, PSP, college educated professional, it will f#cking cost you, like everything else in life! and if inasawa mo nga, syempre ibabahay mo, syempre aanakan mo, syempre pag-aaralin mo yung mga bata....and so on and so forth...so bottom line pera parin kailangan mo...hindi nakakabusog ang pag-ibig, hindi rin pwede pambayd ng rent or tuition. We live in a capitalistic society and not communist North Korea.

Ok thank you for not taking offense, and if I may be frank myself, Id like to start by saying medyo ginawa mong sobrang komplikado yung sagot mo. Its the equivalent of addressing a simple multiplication problem with integral caculus when the most important point that was raised was very simple. Even your analogies I feel are inappropriate. But nontheless, Ill try to address as much as I can. Sana di masyado mapahaba lang

1. The most important (but simple) point I was raising, is that we are all responsible for bettering our lives. Huwag mo naman ako masyadong gawing kontrabida parekoy, na parang wala akong puso. Hindi ko naman hinuhusgahan mga babae na nandito sa ganitong kalakaran. Ang sinasabi ko lang, sila ang may responsibilidad sa mga pinili nilang gawin sa kanilang buhay, at kung papabutihin nila ito, nasa sa kanila din yun at wala sa mga prince charming na nakasakay sa puting kabayo na pwede dumating. Yes I know, sometimes life itself makes it difficult for us to make righteous choices, but whatever our motivations for making those choices, we cant make excuses in the end. Sabi nga ni Abe Lincoln, even the most valid reason cant be used as an excuse. It is what it is. Now sige na, mahirap ang buhay kelangan kumayod ng konti at kumita ng sapat. Pero kung tatagal sila sa ganyang trabaho hangang malaos sila, hindi nila naman pwede ikatwiran na "eh kasi walang nagahon sakin eh". Kalokohan yun obligasyon mo na tulungan sarili mo kahit walang prince charming na dumating.

2. Liberty works both ways, kung piliin ng isang babae na mas maghirap na lang kesa magpahawak sa kung kani-kaninong lalake gabi gabi, huwag naman natin silang tawaging tanga. Respetuhin na lang natin di ba? Kesa naman pilitin sila sa isang kalakaran na di naman nila kaya sikmurain. That is not idiocy, that is simply showing character, dignity, or self-love even. Not saying that those in the trade dont have any. Its just me simply saying thats something we all should learn to respect, as much as you dont want other people disrespecting women who are in the trade.

3. Yes everything in life has a price. But that does not mean the price always has to be monetary. My ex-gangster friend tells me how his life is so much different now that he has left the Japanese Mafia. Mas konti na lang kinikita nya. Hindi na sya nakakapunta sa mga mamahaling club sa tokyo, hindi na din sya nakakakuha ng mga high class na chicks. Mas simple na lang ang buhay nya ngayon sa country side. PERO he is more at peace with himself now. He no longer has to live his life looking over his shoulder, he no longer has to come into terms with being societies outcast. He says, that kind of peace is something all the money that he earned when he was still in the trade could never buy him. That feeling of looking in the mirror and liking the person you see. And he did succeed naman eventually making honest money. In fact now he sometimes help support groups for people with substance abuse problems. Goes to prove that it does not always need to be a tradeoff between a dignifying work and a well-paying one. Kung maabilidad ka naman na tao walang impossible. But if you are a person who likes making excuses then then its always convenient for you to say that "anecdotal stories" represent the exemption rather than the rule, when they are the exemption breaking rules. Labo ba? hehehe

But this is not me saying money is not important just to be clear. In fact, I have said in the other threads that the one element that is sure to attract women is money. Because money can represent a lot of things. That you are not a dead beat. That you can take care of your woman, that you have work at least at di ka lang tambay. Money can also buy things to make you more physically attractive. But all that is besides the point. When we talk about lasting relationships, you will need something more than money. I am sure that you want your lady to be in your life not just because of the money. You do want her kahit papano to geniunely care about you. Right? Kasi kung huhuthutan ka lang ng babae ng pera, hindi ka din magiging masaya sa huli.

In short balance ang kelangan which brings me to my next point

4. Sabi ko nga, never shortchange yourself pagdating sa mga lasting partnership. Hindi issue dito ang obligasyon ng lalake na buhayin ang babae at bigyan ng magandang kinabukasan. Ang pinaguusapan dito ang ang pagiging wise sa mga risk na kelangan natin pasukin. May dahilan kung bakit nasa huli lagi ang pagsisi. Mahirap masaktan sa huli parekoy. That way you have less reason to be insecure. I know, a womans love has a price, but its a matter of what will she ask from you to earn it. Kung pera lang habol nya sayo, hindi rin magiging masaya relasyon nyo. Kahit gaano pa sya magtagal sayo. There just wont be sincerity in there. And why shortchange yourself with that di ba?

I wanna close this, by saying na nilalawakan ko pangunawa ko para sayo parekoy. Alam ko kung bakit sa sagot mo palang, napaka passionate mo sa issue. Kasi nga, pinasok mo itong bagay na ito, kaya impossible na hingiin ko sayo na idetach mo sarili mo sa issue para objectively mapagusapan natin ito. Syempre inaasahan ko na lahat ng magiging sagot mo ay biased, at magiging validation sa lahat ng mga desisyon na ginawa mo sa bagay na ito na pinasok mo. Truthfully, and no pun intended, I wish you the best of luck at sana may happy ending na kahantungan ito. But to be honest, I am with the rest of the guys who say "whats worth doing this?"

Exercise. there is nothing like the feeling of getting a good workout, sweating, showering, and listening to loud music on your way home

Best time to cheat is right after a heavy workout, sunog lang kaagad yung pizza o big mac and fries.

Do indulge every once in a while, it also helps you not feel deprived

My advice to other men in this situation, be a f#cking man! Take care of your lady, get her the f#ck away from her old life. If you can't afford to take care of your woman, don't even bother...be f#cking smart enough to know you are incapable of taking care of her, and save yourselves both the time and money. Love is merely a chemical reaction. Reality is what you have to deal with.

Congrats parekoy kung nagkaroon ka ng happy ending. Pero sana huwag ka maiinsulto sa sasabihin ko. Ito ay opinion ko lang naman.

Hindi ako agree na lalake ang dapat magalis sa isang babae sa ganitong kalakaran. Kung nilagay ng isang babae sarili nya dyan, sya ang may obligasyon na ialis sarili nya dyan. Bakit kelangan ibang lalake gumawa nito para sa kanya? Tsaka ano yun? hindi ba para na ring pinagbibili ng babae pagibig at katapatan nya? Buhay nya yan, kaya sa huli responsibilidad nya pa din yan.

Kaya nga ako, hanga sa mga babaeng nagawang ialis sarili nila sa kalakaran na yan, kahit hindi sila umasa sa mga pwedeng maging "prince charming" nila. Nagipon, nagaral, nagtayo ng maliit na negosyo, o kaya lumipat sa isang hanap buhay na kahit mas maliit ang kita, pwede nya naman tignan ang sarili nya ng mas may pride. Dito mo makikita kung sino yung babaeng handa magbayad ng kahit na ano para mabuhay ng marangal.

Lagi kong sinasabi sa mga parekoy dito, never shortchange yourself when it comes to relationship. Ikaw na din nagsabi, its reality you have to deal with. And reality is, hindi mo obligasyon bilang lalake na ialis sila sa kinalalagyan nila. Kung talagang desidido sila ipakita na deserving sila sa respeto at pagmamahal na kaya mo ibigay, eh di sila magalis ng sarili nila dyan. Kung hindi nila kaya gawin yun, eh di maghanap na lang ng iba na hindi ka bibigyan ng ganyang klaseng problema.

Lol

Hindi naman siguro. Marami naman combat sport dyan kung tutuusin pero marami pa din ang nanonood ng boxing. Sabi naman ni Dana White mismo di ba? Hindi naman nila pinapatay ang boxing. You can be a fan of boxing and still appreciate MMA.

Siguro kasi, mabilis yung naging kasikatan ng MMA at kumpara sa ibang combat sport dyan ito talaga yung naipasok sa mainstream at PPV. Ganun pa man matagal tagal pa o mahirap bago malampasan ng UFC kasikatan ng boxing.

As to mananalo ba ang mga boxingero sa mga mixed martial artists, ang sagot dyan simple lang, anong rules gagamitin. Under MMA rules, pag nawala na yung paa, wala na masyado magagawa yung boxer. Pero under boxing rules, mas sanay syempre yung boxingero mag maniobra sa ibabaw ng ring.

Para sakin, ang comparison ng dalawa ay apples at oranges lang

nagbabasa kapala db mo ako sinabihan ng AUTHORITY gawa ng mga pactards yan eh naniniwala ka mali yun wag kng maniwala

Ayan na, more words being shoved in my mouth. Wala akong sinasabing ganyan (Sabay hirit sya ng.... "nagakamnesia nanaman). Kung yan ang pagintindi mo sa sinabi ko, aba hindi na ako magugulat. Kasi nga time and again pinatunayan mo na bobo ka talaga sa reading comprehension.

Depende yan sa nakasulat at sa umiintindi. Kung puros mga biased blog articles lang naman mula sa mga taong sobrang nagmamahal sa idol mo, at di naman binibigyan ng tamang analysis yung possibleng match up, eh di gaya mo din silang mga pactard. OO nga naman, bakit ka nga naman magcopy paste ng mga articles sa sinasabing laos na idol mo, pangit sya, at di uubra sa mga counterpunchers.

Yan copy paste mo from expertboxing.com, tama yan! Walang problema sa nagsulat nyan. GInamit nya lang naman na example idol mo at walang problema dun. Ang problema ikaw, dahil talagang bobo ka na nga sa reading comprehension, ignorante ka pa sa boxing. Ang binabangit dito sa article tungkol sa isang variation ng leaning straight left! Hindi left jab! tanga!

San ka makakakita ng south paw, pero kanan yung jab. From a conventional fighting stance, ni hindi aabot suntok sa kalaban nya. At oo may science talaga dyan. Kaya nga sweet science ang tawag sa boxing. Huwag mo ako sisihin kung hindi ako sing-ignorante mo. Tsaka pag wala akong alam sa isang bagay hindi ako hirit ng hirit

O sige ipilit mo pa na alam mo nga sinasabi mo .

at tlagang yun lng alam mung boxing style ni PACMAN whahhaha

 

 

3. One-Legged Lead Left

This is probably Pacquiao's equivalent of the Superman punch. It's very subtle if you don't look for it but I see Pacquiao doing this ALL the time! It keeps his opponents on their toes at all times and helps to tame the aggressive ones as well. He'll start off moving around the ring and at some point, he'll quickly lean forward at the waist and throw a straight left lead as one of his feet is still off the ground. It's kind of like a surprise Superman-punch except that he has one feet planted to the ground ground. Sometimes it's the left that's planted, sometimes it's the right.

 

I doubt that he gets much power on it but it's still enough to stun his opponents and he'll quickly follow it up if they're caught off guard. This trick works so well because his opponents don't expect him to throw an un-planted punch while his feeting is moving around.

 

http://www.expertbox...o-boxing-tricks

 

ewan ko ba ano pa kya mahihirit mo dito whahahaha hindi porket southpaw hindi nya ngagawa yun whahahaha

gawa ito ng mga pactards kya wag kang maniniwala ha

Hindi! Hindi yan gawa ng pactards. Gawa yan ng isang marunong sa boxing, at copy pasted ng isang pactard. Ang problema, yung pactard na nagcopy paste bobo na sa boxing, at doble pang pagkabobo sa simpleng reading comprehension.

You have 2 problems here.

1. The author was not talking about a left jab the author was talking about a left STRAIGHT eto o

"he'll quickly lean forward at the waist and throw a straight left lead as one of his feet is still off the ground :lol:. Oh the horrors! You cant even tell the difference between a jab and a straight? OO nga naman kasi parehong diretso dapat yung kamay? AHAHAHAHAHAHA!"

2. Yung na highlight mo, wala naman kamangha mangha dyan. Its basic physics. If you are trying to throw your weight forward from a south paw stance at medyo malayo yung kalaban mo, natural ikikintid mo konti kaliwang paa mo, habang dapat planted ng maayos kanan para di ka off balanced. Pero kung medyo malapit naman sayo at ikaw sinusugod, pwedeng yung kaliwa naman ang kelangan naka plant, para mas madali umatras. Bottom line, of course one of your feet always have to be planted to the ground to get good torque for your power power shot and to keep you balance. DUh! Napakabasic nyan.

Expert yung nagsulat, kaso bobo yung umintindi, Ignorante pa sa boxing. Jab ang pinaguusapan, hahanap ng reference na tungkol sa straight left ang sinasabi.

O pano na yan? Supalpal ka nanaman? Di ka lang ignorante sa boxing, bobo ka pa sa simpleng reading comprehension.

Yan ang gustong gusto ko sayo, ang dali mong pagmukhaing gago

so dakdak k nnman.... ang ibig kung sabihin at tinutukoy ko ay yung URBAN Dictionary hindi yung video mo FlipnFlip kn puro ka kc hirit eh

 

yan ka nnman sabi ng wla nga akong pakiaalam kahit pa kapatid ka ni Ellerbe or ampon ka ni Mayweather Sr no one is asking every bit of ur persona... whahhaha

 

racing driver kn rin sabay kambiyo putting words backread ka dudong may amnesia ka nga din pala whahaha

At least pag dumadakdak ako, mas may katuturan sinasabi ko. Di kagaya mo, sagot lang ng sagot, puros ad hominem, pero wala naman kaalam alam sa pinaguusapan. South paw kaliwa daw ang jab panalo kang fight analyst!

Ang tanong dito, mali ba yung sinasabi nila tungkol sa mga pactard? Na wala kayong kaalam alam sa boxing? Ikaw na lang, perfect specimen of a pactard dito sa thread na ito. South paw sa kaliwa ang jab?

At wala ka pa lang pakialam sakin, pero sagot ka naman ng sagot dito. O sya sya, huwag ka na humirit pa, pactard ka nga di ba? Andito ka lang para pagtanggol idol mo at hindi naman para makipagdiskusyun sa boxing kasi nga wala ka naman alam dyan. South paw kaliwa ang jab?

uu mga racial slur at pang gangster lng naman na mga salita gipit na kaya dun kn lng kumakapit whahaha

 

pinipilit ba eh kung di kb hibang na buang kung binasa mo lng yung article eh di sana naliwagan ka eh hirit kb nman ng AUTHORITY shunga ka talga

 

regalo eh hindi k nga naniniwala sa mga videos at article whahaha kc gawa nga nman ng mga Pactards FlipnFlip

Spoken like a true pactard. At di ka lang pactard mukhang biktima ka din ng matinding pinoy pride syndrome. Walang racial slur sa video na yun. At most profiling lang. Mukhang tulad ng maraming tangengot na masa, malamang di mo alam pinagkaiba nun. Kaya naman pag nakakabasa ka ng statement na "Like any other man, Manny puts his pants on one leg at a time". Ang reaction mo ganito "wwwaaaaaaaaaah! How dare you make racist remarks against us Filipinos? Dont you know we are the best in the world because of Pacquiao Charice Arnel? Waaaaaaah! WE WANT PUBLIC APOLOGY FROM PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA NOW!". Sabagay bobo ka naman sa reading comprehension, kahit simpleng statement lang binabaluktot pa para magswak sa gusto mo sabihin.

Isa pa, walang kasing racist kayong mga pactard sa totoo lang. Kaya nga kung susundan ang mga boxing discussion threads, puros lang naman pangasar sa mga african americans at mexicano hinihirit nyo kasi nga naman wala kayong kaalam alam ni katiting tungkol sa boxing. Parang ikaw lang, puro ka ad hominem sakin kasi talaga nga naman wala kang alam sa pinaguusapan o pinagsasabi mo. Isa pa, yung mga katropa mo sa number 4, nagbibihis gangsta din naman ah. Ang dami dami kayang mga fil-am pactards na pinipilit din naman magsalita at manamit na parang ghetto gangster

Sabi ko sayo, hindi ako eksperto sa boxing. Ni hindi nga ako competetive boxer. Pero at least hindi ako puros pagpapakabiased lang kay idol mo. At kung nakakatawa mga sinasabi ko, ano pa kaya ikaw? Anak ng powtek south paw kaliwa ang jab?? HAHAHAHAHA! O yan pala bat iwas ka ng iwas dyan? Ano kasi di mo mabara at nabutata ka ng sobra dyan. Yan kasi ang hirap imbento imbento pa kunwari ng "Ay nakita mo pala yung ganitong move ng idol ko blah blah blah..." pero nahuli lang lalo na hindi marunong ng basic boxing stance. Gawin mo nga kasi yang sinasabi mo sa isang boxing gym kaharap ang totoong marunong maglaro. 4-1-2 aabutin mo sigurado. O sya sya, enumaration nanaman yan lol.

Stop shoving words in my mouth, I never said hindi ako sinabing di ako naniniwala sa mga article o video. Ang sinasabi ko lang, hindi ako biased lagi para sa isang boxingero. Kung lalabanan ng idol mo si Provodnikov (pero malabo kasi pareho sila ng trainer), Alvarado, o kahit broner pa, kay Idol mo ako pupusta. Pero malabong pumusta ako sa kanya kung si Marquez o Mayweather.

Wala lang, yang video na yan, para lang pakita sayo what being a pactard is all about. But I dont need that to show your glaring ignorance about boxing. Isa pa, sa mga sinasabi mo pa lang huling huli na talagang wala kang kaalam alam. South Paw left ang jab? Ayus!

Wushuuu, wala na talagang maihirit pati ba naman paggamit ng urban dictionary gusto pang gamitin bala. Bakit hindi na totoo sinsabi dun? Totoo naman ah, na kayong mga pactard puro lang kayo epal pero wala naman talaga kayong kaalam alam tungkol sa boxing. Dakilang pagsamba lang sa idol nyo ginagawa nyo. Pero bilang na din ang araw ng mga pactard, kasi palaos na si Pacquiao, at konting panahon na lang, wala na din sa inyo manonood ng boxing.

At talagang ipipilit mong ulitulitin yang tungkol sa PPV na yan, as if napakaeskperto mo sa fight promotions at marami ka ngang alam tungkol sa boxing. Pero simpleng fighting stance lang ng idol mo hindi mo pa alam? Seriously? South Paw sa kaliwa gumagamit ng Jab? If that is not reflective of glaring ignorance way more than my knowledge about PPV revenues, then I do not know what else is. Moreover, nakailang pages na hindi pa din masagot sagot ang simpleng tanong, papano mananalo nga idol mo?

At papalusot ka pa talaga kahit huling huli ka na! Pinakabasic na punch combo sa boxing hindi pa alam. Enumeration daw! WTF? Anong klaseng palusot naman yan. Of all the things na pwede mo baggitin yang salitang yan pa pinili mo. Yan kasi ang hirap pag pinagpipilitan mong magmarunong sa isang bagay na wala ka naman kaalam alam.

Nga pala, eto regalo ko sayo

Swak na swak ka dun sa pangapat na dahilan. nagigin homoerotic na sobra mong pagsamba kay Pacquiao.

akalain mo pati Urban Dictionary pinatulan mo cno kaya mas idiot satin dalawa whahaha

 

hirit kapa ng enumeration whahahha patunay na isa kng flipnflip

Wala ka na bang maihirit? Ngayon pati paggamit ko naman ng urban dictionary gusto mo gawing bala naman? Tsk tsk tsk look at you, desperately trying your best to throw everything at me, including the kitchen sink. But you could never answer one elemental question kahit nakailang pages na tayo. Papano mananalo Idol mo? Shake it to the left strategy? Magdadasal tamaan ng kidlat si Floyding? OO nga pala, kahit anong sagot pwede sayo! Basta makasagot ka lang.

May dahilan kung bakit ang mga numerong binabangit ko tinatawag na "combination" at hindi "enumaration". Ngayon kung pati ba naman simpleng 1-2 na lang di mo pa alam, eh ano pa ba aasahan sa mga sinasabi kundi puros pange-e-pal na lang. Stance na nga lang ng idol mo hindi mo pa naiintindihan. Kaliwete, pero kaliwa ginagamit na jab? Panalo!

At higit sa lahat, ikaw na yata ang may pinakamagaling na reading comprehension skills sa sports thread. Siguro kapag sinabi ni Muhammad ali ganito

"Like Floyd or any other man, Manny puts his pants on one leg at a time".

Ang reaction mo ganito

"WAAAAAAT? How dare you insult my idol! How dare you insult Filipinos... waaaaaa kelangan magprotesta gobyerno natin waaaaaaaaa!"