Supplements - to Take or Not to Take?

[Sl@MDuNk_Mitsui14]

I started out taking Megamass 2000, pero now im taking Megamass deluxe 4000.

I wanted to try Nitrotech pero kulang pa budget. My7 friend told me its more effective compared to Weider Megamass.

[telemaster_311]

ano bang (natural) food or supplement mabilis magpa-develop ng muscle? im not aspiring to be "big" basta fit lang ala nba players. ok lang ba mag rice? sabi kasi pasta is better than rice if your on a diet much heavier than bread too. totoo ba yun?

[Equus]

in regards to diet...

 

Carbs is okay but its easier to measure if eating wheat bread.... comlpex carbs dapat thats laced with fiber... kaya okay wheat bread. Tapos, eat all of these... tuna, egg white, chicken breask, pork chops (without fat), steak, etc... stay away from EXCESSIVE sugars... take sugar with your coffee... thats it... fruits are okay for cleansing but is usually tooo sugary for the amount of fiber it can supply.. So stack up on the high protein foods and a protein shake will not hurt... probly only yer wallet...

[Guest k....]

whole wheat and white bread roughly contain the same number of calories- the premise being, if youre taking carbs anyway, might as well skip the refined flour and have the wheat intact. Again, not much caloric difference to put your diet on a haywire

 

It baffles me why you condone fruit, and yet promote putting sugar in your coffee; sugars, as absolute in one's diet as they are, should primarily be taken from fruit, not in laboratory-produced crystal bits. (unless you're diabetec, I dont see any reason why you'd skip the fruit because they have "too much sugar")

 

protein is good, but a high-protein diet is not all too healthy; (think ketosis, etc), balance is the key

 

PS pork chops, i avoid; they have too much fat woven into the meat; might as well stick to fish and lean chicken portions.

 

whey powder isnt expensive at all- ON 100% runs at 2,500. I don't see the need to get fancy whey powder anyways. If you'd really want to go on the cheap, egg whites are your best bet. The protein in the whites have the best biological protein value. Hassle lang

 

in regards to diet...

 

Carbs is okay but its easier to measure if eating wheat bread.... comlpex carbs dapat thats laced with fiber... kaya okay wheat bread.  Tapos, eat all of these...  tuna, egg white, chicken breask, pork chops (without fat), steak, etc... stay away from EXCESSIVE sugars... take sugar with your coffee... thats it... fruits are okay for cleansing but is usually tooo sugary for the amount of fiber it can supply..  So stack up on the high protein foods and a protein shake will not hurt... probly only yer wallet...

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[rapturousone]

I was just wondering which whey protein supplement available in the Philippine market offers the best bang for buck. I've noticed that those with more protein per serving also tend to have more cholesterol. If I may err on the conservative side, I assume that this is bad cholesterol.

 

So, is there a whey protein supplement out there that can feed my muscles after a workout without clogging my arteries? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[r0bin]

whey powder isnt expensive at all- ON 100% runs at 2,500. I don't see the need to get fancy whey powder anyways. If you'd really want to go on the cheap, egg whites are your best bet. The protein in the whites have the best biological protein value. Hassle lang

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sir, what do you mean by "hassle" in eating egg whites? is it bad to take it everyday? how many egg whites should be consumed in aday?

 

I take kasi ON's 100% Whey protein and sometimes GNC Weight Gainer. How many times in a day should i take the whey protein in my workout day? rest day? thanks

[noah]

I was just wondering which whey protein supplement available in the Philippine market offers the best bang for buck.  I've noticed that those with more protein per serving also tend to have more cholesterol.  If I may err on the conservative side, I assume that this is bad cholesterol.

 

So, is there a whey protein supplement out there that can feed my muscles after a workout without clogging my arteries?    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. 

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From my understanding through research, the cholesterol under "%DV(daily values)" is a GOOD cholesterol...if you also look at under "fats", it is also written how much fats a certain product contain...as you may have known, some "good fats" should be a part of our diet, unless you have a high cholesterol like myself...besides, the content per serving is measured by mg(milligram) which is very minute...just my 2-cents...God Bless and Keep pumping...noah

[noah]

sir, what do you mean by "hassle" in eating egg whites? is it bad to take it everyday? how many egg whites should be consumed in aday?

 

I take kasi ON's 100% Whey protein and sometimes GNC Weight Gainer. How many times in a day should i take the whey protein in my workout day? rest day? thanks

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bro,

this is just my 2-cents...eating eggwhites ALONE is not bad for you...what's bad is eating the yolk (The yellow) due to its high content of bad cholesterol...on an average, an egg contains about 6 grams of protein...so if your goal is to get bigger or gain more mass, you should consume 1 to 1.5 grams of protein times your weight in pounds...Example: you weigh 150 lbs...so you should consume 150 to 225 grams of protein...which is about 25 to 35 egg whites...

 

if your goal is to gain mass....after a work out, you MUST drink a protein shake of at least 1 and a half serving to feed the damaged muscle cells...plus, it is also highly recommended to drink protein shakes between meals...or before your stomach is about to get empty or hungry... DURING OFF_DAYS or rest days, you should still drink a serving of protein shakes between meals...you want your muscle to be always being fed... this has worked for me and i think it will work for others...just my two cents...God Bless and Keep pumping....noah

[r0bin]

bro,

this is just my 2-cents...eating eggwhites ALONE is not bad for you...what's bad is eating the yolk (The yellow)  due to its high content of bad cholesterol...on an average, an egg contains about 6 grams of protein...so if your goal is to get bigger or gain more mass, you should consume 1 to 1.5 grams of protein times your weight in pounds...Example: you weigh 150 lbs...so you should consume 150 to 225 grams of protein...which is about 25 to 35 egg whites...

 

if your goal is to gain mass....after a work out, you MUST drink a protein shake of at least 1 and a half serving to feed the damaged muscle cells...plus, it is also highly recommended to drink protein shakes between meals...or before your stomach is about to get empty or hungry... DURING OFF_DAYS or rest days, you should still drink a serving of protein shakes between meals...you want your muscle to be always being fed... this has worked for me and i think it will work for others...just my two cents...God Bless and Keep pumping....noah

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noah,

 

nice input bro. i'll put into action your suggestion. but when u say "drinking a protein shake between meals and before getting hungry" does it mean it is bad to take this shake on an empty stomach or when u really feel hungry? coz i usually drink my protein shake first thing in the morning on my workout days and usually 1 shake/day only on my rest days.

 

so on my workout days how many scoops of ON's Whey should i be consuming?

 

GOAL: Gain mass and muscle

 

from morning

1 scoop before workout plus breakfast

1 1/2 scoops after workout

lunch

1 scoop between meals as u've suggested

merienda (kelangan ba?)

1 scoop again (between meal)

dinner

1 scoop before bedtime

 

this is how I imagine the routine as far as what I've learned from this thread. Is this correct noah? anyone could also add input. coz i've read it here sumwer that aside from workouts what and how we eat is also very important.

 

thanks..dami ko takala natututunan dito.

[spitzky]

oh well, its a supp thread after all.....

[Guest k....]

hassle, being the part where you have to go through cracking each egg and scooping the yolk out of each one tamad lang talaga ako

 

noah more or less hit it: you never let yourself go hungry; what i do is, 2 servings/day, regardless of rest/workout days; i have the vanilla one, and here's how I do it: 1 scoop, 2 bananas, half a cup instant oatmeal (uncooked), 1 tbsp skippy peanut butter, 6 ice cubes heheh. :thumbsupsmiley:

 

bro,

this is just my 2-cents...eating eggwhites ALONE is not bad for you...what's bad is eating the yolk (The yellow)  due to its high content of bad cholesterol...on an average, an egg contains about 6 grams of protein...so if your goal is to get bigger or gain more mass, you should consume 1 to 1.5 grams of protein times your weight in pounds...Example: you weigh 150 lbs...so you should consume 150 to 225 grams of protein...which is about 25 to 35 egg whites...

 

if your goal is to gain mass....after a work out, you MUST drink a protein shake of at least 1 and a half serving to feed the damaged muscle cells...plus, it is also highly recommended to drink protein shakes between meals...or before your stomach is about to get empty or hungry... DURING OFF_DAYS or rest days, you should still drink a serving of protein shakes between meals...you want your muscle to be always being fed... this has worked for me and i think it will work for others...just my two cents...God Bless and Keep pumping....noah

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[Guest k....]

just back-read this post; so 5.5 scoops give you 126.5g of protein; I'm 140 (at 5'7 that's still light!) so that gives me roughly 90% of my daily requirement-

 

dont forget to account how much protein your regular food contains; I tend to eat 2 medium lean steaks everyday, so that's a lot of protein as well;

 

i guess the issue really here is, can you get yourself to have protein shakes that often and that much?!?

 

i can't, i need to get some real food (my banana-oatmeal-peanut butter concoction does get tiring sometimes too :sick: )

 

noah,

 

nice input bro. i'll put into action your suggestion. but when u say "drinking a protein shake between meals and before getting hungry" does it mean it is bad to take this shake on an empty stomach or when u really feel hungry? coz i usually drink my protein shake first thing in the morning on my workout days and usually 1 shake/day only on my rest days.

 

so on my workout days how many scoops of ON's Whey should i be consuming?

 

GOAL: Gain mass and muscle

 

from morning

1 scoop before workout plus breakfast

1 1/2 scoops after workout

lunch

1 scoop between meals as u've suggested

merienda (kelangan ba?)

1 scoop again (between meal)

dinner

1 scoop before bedtime

 

this is how I imagine the routine as far as what I've learned from this thread. Is this correct noah? anyone could also add input. coz i've read it here sumwer that aside from workouts what and how we eat is also very important.

 

thanks..dami ko takala natututunan dito.

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[noah]

hassle, being the part where you have to go through cracking each egg and scooping the yolk out of each one tamad lang talaga ako

 

noah more or less hit it: you never let yourself go hungry; what i do is, 2 servings/day, regardless of rest/workout days; i have the vanilla one, and here's how I do it: 1 scoop, 2 bananas, half a cup instant oatmeal (uncooked), 1 tbsp skippy peanut butter, 6 ice cubes heheh. :thumbsupsmiley:

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bro,

when separating the eggwhites and the yokes, you dont have to do it when it's uncooked...what you should do is boil it first then peel off the eggwhites from the hard (cooked) yokes...it's alot easier that way and it has worked...just my 2 cents...God Bless...noah

[noah]

noah,

 

nice input bro. i'll put into action your suggestion. but when u say "drinking a protein shake between meals and before getting hungry" does it mean it is bad to take this shake on an empty stomach or when u really feel hungry? coz i usually drink my protein shake first thing in the morning on my workout days and usually 1 shake/day only on my rest days.

 

so on my workout days how many scoops of ON's Whey should i be consuming?

 

GOAL: Gain mass and muscle

 

from morning

1 scoop before workout plus breakfast

1 1/2 scoops after workout

lunch

1 scoop between meals as u've suggested

merienda (kelangan ba?)

1 scoop again (between meal)

dinner

1 scoop before bedtime

 

this is how I imagine the routine as far as what I've learned from this thread. Is this correct noah? anyone could also add input. coz i've read it here sumwer that aside from workouts what and how we eat is also very important.

 

thanks..dami ko takala natututunan dito.

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bro,

taking it when your stomach is empty is not bad, BUT it's alot better if you take it before that point...it's just like putting gas in your car when it's empty...we don't want that...we want our muscles to have a consistent nutrients source...if we let our stomach empty, then we willl be burning fats and eventually muscles (which defeats the purpose of trying to gain mass)...assuming that you are about 150 lbs, and that ON's whey has 24 grams of protein per serving ( I checked the label), consuming 5.5 servings alone will give you 132 grams of protein which is short of about 93 grams of protein, if your goal is 225 grams (1.5 grams * 150 lbs bodyweight)...like what kwol said...you have to factor in the grams of protein from other source like your " real food/meal" of steak, tuna, chiken breast, etc...PLS REMEMBER: supplements are supplements...they are not supposed to be your primary source of protein/nutrients...

 

your meal schedule/discipline is not bad...however, you should have another snack between your after workout shake and your lunch...may be a tuna sandwich or chicken breast sandwich...the merienda is good provided that it's a high-protein one or some banana...the key to all the meals is high-protein but low carbs EXCEPT your BEFORE-work out meal...you need carbs for immediate energy boost...also, don't forget to factor in your metabolism...based on the sports nutrition certification i went through, they want you to eat every THREE hours if gaining mass is your goal...Good Luck and God Bless....noah

[noah]

Bro,

i also strongly suggest that you should take some creatine at least one serving before your workout...also avoid supplements that will negate one another such as hydroxycut or xenadrine and protein or creatine...you should have ONLY ONE goal, either to gain mass or to get cut...u cant do both...just my 2 cents...God Bless...noah