storm Posted March 20, 2006 Author Share Posted March 20, 2006 I think economics coupled with our natural tendency to attract bad press (if you're a foreigner overseas and CNN is your only source of info about RP, you might think the country is going through a civil war!) would have a far greater bearing. When Singapore made a bid for the Rolling Stones to include the city-state as part of their farewell tour, the promoters were asked to dish 8 million dollars (USD not SGD) up front. I understand even Singapore had to balk. Imagine if it were here in Manila, very few (if any) could afford to buy the tickets to recoup those stagerring talent fees. I would imagine the talent fees of the likes of U2 might be a little cheaper but still easily worth a couple of million dollars. And the bad publicity we always get don't help any. Of late, we seem to be hosting remnants of 70s acts like Spiral Staircase, The Lettermen, etc. which brings me to my next question: May nanood ba nung Sergio Mendez? My wife wanted to watch but we didn't manage to.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> We saw the free concert of Spiral Starecase but much as we loved to see Sergio Mendez live, we'd rather buy a DVD than watch him perform from the upperbox of the Big Dome. Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 I think economics coupled with our natural tendency to attract bad press (if you're a foreigner overseas and CNN is your only source of info about RP, you might think the country is going through a civil war!) would have a far greater bearing. When Singapore made a bid for the Rolling Stones to include the city-state as part of their farewell tour, the promoters were asked to dish 8 million dollars (USD not SGD) up front. I understand even Singapore had to balk. Imagine if it were here in Manila, very few (if any) could afford to buy the tickets to recoup those stagerring talent fees. I would imagine the talent fees of the likes of U2 might be a little cheaper but still easily worth a couple of million dollars. And the bad publicity we always get don't help any. Of late, we seem to be hosting remnants of 70s acts like Spiral Staircase, The Lettermen, etc. which brings me to my next question: May nanood ba nung Sergio Mendez? My wife wanted to watch but we didn't manage to.<{POST_SNAPBACK}> I think we are in a position to afford a concert of a super act here and I'm sure many can afford it - look at the recent Wrestling show here. Some people were able to fund it and Pinoys lapped up the tickets, the cheapest of which was around P900+ (the highest was an astronomical P10,000!) yet the two shows were sold out. I think the cost of putting up that Wrestling extravaganza was in the neighborhood of P30 million upfront - well peanuts compared to the Rolling Stones' fee but you get the idea - we can afford something expensive here. It's just that Manila has such a bad rep, in the past and definitely in the present. Also, even though I view with amused eyes the phenomenon of bringing in those geriatric acts here of late, I can't help but admire the keen business eye of the promoter Steve O' Neal. He knows that the fans of those 60's acts are now at the prime of their lives not to mention wealth so he knows that the money will surely be there....ergo, successful shows.... Wondering aloud, would these geriatric acts have roadies as tour companions, or caregivers? oops sorry.... Quote Link to comment
storm Posted March 20, 2006 Author Share Posted March 20, 2006 Nice one pareng Bods. Was the Sergio Mendez show a success, too? Quote Link to comment
Magaling Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Wondering aloud, would these geriatric acts have roadies as tour companions, or caregivers? oops sorry....<{POST_SNAPBACK}> You made my day with this one. Quote Link to comment
jt2003 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I think we are in a position to afford a concert of a super act here and I'm sure many can afford it - look at the recent Wrestling show here. Some people were able to fund it and Pinoys lapped up the tickets, the cheapest of which was around P900+ (the highest was an astronomical P10,000!) yet the two shows were sold out. I think the cost of putting up that Wrestling extravaganza was in the neighborhood of P30 million upfront - well peanuts compared to the Rolling Stones' fee but you get the idea - we can afford something expensive here. It's just that Manila has such a bad rep, in the past and definitely in the present. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I agree. Ticket prices for the WWE stint here were enormous. And according to one poster in the Usapang Wrestling thread, the management of Araneta was so surprised at how fast the tickets sold. I think the problem will be what would be considered a super act. Professional wrestling, for some reason, stretches across generations. Music, well, not quite. For instance, people our age would consider the Rolling Stones a super act. I doubt, however, if my daughters would. I would consider Sergio Mendez a super act, especially with female vocals. On the other hand, I don't think my daughters even know such Sergio Mendez classics as "Like a Lover" and "Pretty World." Quote Link to comment
augustmoon Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 In my POV, part of the overwhelming success of the Wrestling show last month is the PESTER POWER of the kids. As soon as it was announced that a wrestling match/show was to be staged, kids started asking, coercing and badgering their parents to buy them tickets. Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Nice one pareng Bods. Was the Sergio Mendez show a success, too?<{POST_SNAPBACK}> It should have been. Magaganda ang mga kanta ng Sergio Mendez and I think they are at par with the Spiral Staircase or The Platters in terms of nostalgia value.... You made my day with this one. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thanks, pare! You know, they're quite old now. I keep imagining this scenario wherein the artists are shooting the breeze in some nursing home and they would see Steve O' Neal coming and they would groan: "Uh-oh, here comes that Manila promoter again, sheessh!" Quote Link to comment
bods1000 Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 I think the problem will be what would be considered a super act. Professional wrestling, for some reason, stretches across generations. Music, well, not quite. For instance, people our age would consider the Rolling Stones a super act. I doubt, however, if my daughters would. I would consider Sergio Mendez a super act, especially with female vocals. On the other hand, I don't think my daughters even know such Sergio Mendez classics as "Like a Lover" and "Pretty World."<{POST_SNAPBACK}> well I would consider huge acts as those that are huge at the moment, or enjoying enormous popularity now. So they take advantage of this and try to command extravagant appearance fees. I am wondering why in the past they were able to bring in the Beatles at the height of their popularity, or relatively recently, Sting (whom I saw in 1989 - he was at the peak then) or Phil Collins before, and before them, Eric Clapton or Metallica. Medyo kasikatan nila nun when they were here. Nowadays all we see are the oldies - which is not bad per se, but how we long for the Stones or U2 or such pop acts as Britney or Madonna. I would disagree with music not stretching across generations. The current fave of my kids is would you believe, the Beatles I can't explain it. It started when they got to see the Yellow Submarine DVD which I bought for my viewing and from then on there was no stopping them. I had to scrounge around for the Beatles anthology or any Beatles CD I could find so as not for them to lose the momentum of the moment. There must be something magical about Beatles music that my kids would love - music that is almost 40 years old! This is just an example of course but I think music, if it is good, has a way of reaching out to anybody - be they oldies like us, or youngsters.... To digress, ang mahal pala ng mga vintage Beatles LP's. I saw their Help album, made in Japan, and it goes for a thousand bucks Even the local LPs go for P500.... Quote Link to comment
Magaling Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 I would disagree with music not stretching across generations. The current fave of my kids is would you believe, the Beatles I can't explain it. It started when they got to see the Yellow Submarine DVD which I bought for my viewing and from then on there was no stopping them. I had to scrounge around for the Beatles anthology or any Beatles CD I could find so as not for them to lose the momentum of the moment. There must be something magical about Beatles music that my kids would love - music that is almost 40 years old! This is just an example of course but I think music, if it is good, has a way of reaching out to anybody - be they oldies like us, or youngsters....<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not to mention that recently, there seems to be a trend towards remakes.... You know, I used to frown on this. I felt that it's a sign that there no longer are as many good composers out there today and so artists have to make do with rehashing old songs. (Back in the 70s, what separated the good lounge acts from the stars was the latter's ability to churn original hits. Nowadays, even top Pinoy acts routinely release albums where almost all the songs are remakes. Think MYMP, U-turn, etc.). A few weeks back, we had a videoke party with my nephews. They were singing their songs which are totally unknown to us "elders". And we were singing songs that they probably think of as passe. Finally, someone thought of singing songs that had been remade...and then, we had a party! The generation gap was bridged. May silbi rin naman pala ang mga remakes na yan. Hehehe! Quote Link to comment
storm Posted March 24, 2006 Author Share Posted March 24, 2006 I agree to that Pareng Bods and Magaling. The remakes or revivals bridge the gap between our generation and our childrens. There are new hits being played in LS abd RX that sound like 70s music. :thumbsupsmiley: Quote Link to comment
storm Posted March 26, 2006 Author Share Posted March 26, 2006 Played the Deodato CD. Many thanks Pareng bods :cool: Quote Link to comment
bathala Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 pero iba pa rin ang original 70's music... Quote Link to comment
lomex32 Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Bee Gees, EW & F, Led Zepellin, Nazareth, KISS and many more pero iba pa rin ang original 70's music...<{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment
storm Posted March 27, 2006 Author Share Posted March 27, 2006 Iba talaga ang range ng 70s music :cool: From Disco to heavy metal. Quote Link to comment
Cain N Moko Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 TOYOTA of the 70sLand Cruiser 1973 Quote Link to comment
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