jumborat Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 ano ba ang pinaka madaling matutunan na MA? actually it all depends on the reason why you wanna learn MA in the first place.do you want to do MA for sports or practicality purposes? Quote Link to comment
aidz Posted April 23, 2003 Author Share Posted April 23, 2003 Hey guys, Check out http://pinoymma.com it's a site dedicated to the local mixed martial arts scene.it's new but they already have interviews and news peace nice site. thanks for the link. Quote Link to comment
pogs109 Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 nineteen,madali bang i-self-study yung sayonatsi,mukhang mahihirap ako dito,kasi mahina yung tuhod at paa,pati na rin sa balance. jumborat,para sa proteksyon, para makundisyon yung katawan koat mapaglilibangan. aidz,ayoko sanang magpaturo sa iba,gusto ko sana sa bahay pag-aralan. Quote Link to comment
kaptain_kups Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 me tektnick ba kung paano salagin ang bala ng M16, o kaya ay 45.... hhhmmm... kung meron pa2ro naman dyann.... Quote Link to comment
trebbie Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 (edited) In my experience, learning MA together with other people gave me a lot of benefits, some of which were: 1. The feeling of camaraderie2. Others can push and/or help you learn. For example, watching and/or helping others allowed me to appreciate how to do things better.3. During sparring sessions, having several partners helps you learn to deal with different styles and approaches. For example, sparring with a taller partner will help you learn to adjust your own attack & defense strategies. Another example would be the time I sparred with a Karate practitioner. His "hard" style, defensive orientation, and deep stances forced me to adjust and think of new ways to get through his defense. Howver, one advantage of studying by oneself is that you won't feel embarassed when you make mistakes, especially when you're a beginner. Edited April 23, 2003 by trebbie Quote Link to comment
aidz Posted April 23, 2003 Author Share Posted April 23, 2003 me tektnick ba kung paano salagin ang bala ng M16, o kaya ay 45.... hhhmmm... kung meron pa2ro naman dyann.... pre agimat ata ang kailangan mo, alam ko may binebenta sa quiapo, check mo. tapos paturo ka kay nardong putik hehehe pis Quote Link to comment
trebbie Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 ano ibig sabihin ng pt917, 9mm taurus, at walther p99? may recommended ba kayo na books or tapes,para sa mga starter?mga baril yun pre hmm...recommended books/tapes? i guess it depends on what art you want to study. gusto ko sanang matuto ng t** kwon do,ano ba ang pinaka madaling matutunan na MA? Pinakamadali? In my own experience of studying different styles, there is no such thing as madali. You will find that serious study of an MA requires diligence and dedication, especially if you plan to become good at it. Another thing is that studying an MA only for a few months will NOT prepare you for the reality of combat, if that is what you're looking for. Have you heard of the saying "A little knowledge is dangerous"? This is very true for MA. BTW, I'm not criticizing you. I just want to offer some (hopefully friendly) advice. Good luck in your endeavors Quote Link to comment
aidz Posted April 23, 2003 Author Share Posted April 23, 2003 In my experience, learning MA with together with other people gives me a lot of benefits, some of which are: 1. The feeling of camaraderie2. Others can push and/or help you learn. For example, watching and/or helping others allowed me to appreciate how to do things better.3. During sparring sessions, having several partners helps you learn to deal with different styles and approaches. For example, sparring with a taller partner will help you learn to adjust your own attack & defense strategies. Another example would be the time I sparred with a Karate practitioner. His "hard" style, defensive orientation, and deep stances forced me adjust and think of new ways to get through his defense. Howver, one advantage of studying by oneself is that you won't feel embarassed when you make mistakes, especially when you're a beginner. trebbie tama ka dyan. and thats the whole point of being a beginner, beginners make mistakes and that's why we have teachers to correct those. ako i don't feel embarrased when i make mistakes, i just make sure i don't make the same mistakes again. Quote Link to comment
kaptain_kups Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 me tektnick ba kung paano salagin ang bala ng M16, o kaya ay 45.... hhhmmm... kung meron pa2ro naman dyann....pre agimat ata ang kailangan mo, alam ko may binebenta sa quiapo, check mo. tapos paturo ka kay nardong putik hehehe pis pre di ako naniniwala sa agimat.... sa sineng pilipino lng yan.. susginuu wala pa ba kayung tektnick..kung paano salagin ang bala... pero kulam daw 22o... Quote Link to comment
jumborat Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 pogs109,there is no easy martial art! the term itself already involves discipline and hardwork. if you're planning to do home training, i suggest you hire a personal trainer (but this would be EXPENSIVE believe me). but it would be best to really work your a$$ off in the gym with some groupmates. sparring is a very essential thing in martial arts, so how would you be able to spar if you just train at home? of course your teacher or master would really go easy on you if you spar with him. any kind of martial art is beneficial to your health and conditioning. since you're aiming to use it for protection like you said, why not engage in filipino martial arts (FMA) since this is our heritage? aside from empty handed techniques, FMA will also expose you to weapons training. it would be very helpful to you since nowadays violence is amongst us everywhere. if you're planning to go into the sports martial arts type, there is muay thai, jiujitsu, judo, taekwondo, and karate among other mixed-martial arts. hope that helps! Quote Link to comment
trebbie Posted April 23, 2003 Share Posted April 23, 2003 madali bang i-self-study yung sayonatsi, Sayonatsi means: Sa 'yo na tsinelas ko, Takbo na ako. He was making a joke. Quote Link to comment
pogs109 Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 trebbie,Sayonatsi means: Sa 'yo na tsinelas ko, Takbo na ako.yun pala yun jumborat,gusto ko din madevelop yung self-discipline at hardworkingalong sa pag-seself-study ng MA. yung sparring, siguro later na lang pag marunong na akoo pag nagustuhan ko yun particular na MA. magkano ba kung sasali ako sa dojo o gym na nagtuturo ng MA?kung mag-self-study ako,magkano ba yung mga books at tapes? Quote Link to comment
trebbie Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 magkano ba kung sasali ako sa dojo o gym na nagtuturo ng MA?kung mag-self-study ako,magkano ba yung mga books at tapes? I'm not sure anymore how much it would cost as it has been a long time. However, try this link to get an idea: DEFTAC Quote Link to comment
Shambala Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 Guys,..there are a LOT of GYMS regarding Martial ARts. And MInd U guys, Filipinos have really been very proficient int he fighting arts,....even the healing aspects of martial arts. This country cld produce A LOT of World champions in almost every martial art/contact sport I know,...problem is,..there's no support frm orgs/govt sa martial arts d2. Believe me, its always basketball kse eh. ANywayz,...if there's any one who really intebnds to go very serious abt Martial arts, whether for sports,self defence or over all wellness,..I wld suggest na iwasan nyo ang mag comericlaized gyms. Taekwodno and Karate are almost evry where. and Filipino arts, more often than not are veyr effective. It so SAD 2 KNOW that Fil Martial arts are much more popular and appreciated overseas, specially in USA an dAustralia. Always remember that trainig is never easy, though very FUN and CHALLENGING at most times. Quote Link to comment
pogs109 Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 trebbie,thanks sa link,bakit pareho lang yung price ng 12 session na Jiu-Jitsuat 4 session na Kali?mas mahirap bang ituro ang Kali kaysa Jiu-Jitsu? Quote Link to comment
TTT Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 if u plan to self studdy, you would learn only to a certain level. and even thou you learn the technicality of the art, you won't be able to learn the application. martial arts involves interaction and you wont be able to have interaction alone hehehe para kang nag s@ls@l lang nyan at nanoonood ng porno e hehehe in order to be good in martial arts, u really have to have sparring. tignan nyo c tito ortiz, sparring partner lang dati ni tank yon...inupakan nya na c ken shamrock...minsan nga a person who always gets beats up pa yung nag eexcel in the future e...martial arts is all abot discipline, hard work, and HEART. pag la kang puso at determination bali wala yan kahit mag train ka under whoever. Quote Link to comment
TTT Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 kung gusto mo talaga gumaling gayahin mo cna gracie...nag hahanap lang ng away kung saan saan yun ang application ng study hehehe Quote Link to comment
TTT Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 nga lang its the opposite of what martial arts are supposed to be. self defence. Quote Link to comment
jumborat Posted April 24, 2003 Share Posted April 24, 2003 no offense against gracie, but IMHO brazilian jiu-jitsu is geared toward sports and not for street survival purposes especially against multiple attackers. Quote Link to comment
alphares, the asshole Posted April 27, 2003 Share Posted April 27, 2003 sayonachi.. sayo na chinelas ko.. Quote Link to comment
DRAGONCLAW_39 Posted April 27, 2003 Share Posted April 27, 2003 Taekwodno and Karate are almost evry where. and Filipino arts, more often than not are veyr effective. It so SAD 2 KNOW that Fil Martial arts are much more popular and appreciated overseas, specially in USA an dAustralia. . thats exactly what im saying. Filipino martial arts like arnis, kali and escrima are very famous overseas because they can be use in real streetfight situation unlike other MA like taekwondo. Bruce Lee even include FMA on his JKD Thats why im telling you folks to study our own martial arts coz its better that other martial art out there. Quote Link to comment
Guest fhoryou Posted April 27, 2003 Share Posted April 27, 2003 Actually guys Filipino martial arts are very effective. So effective that it can actually compete with other martial arts. I read in Inquirer before, not sure if it is Inquirer, that Bruce Lee has challenge this Filipino to a duel. I know Bruce Lee has study some Filipino Martial arts move himself from his very good friend Dan Inosanto(a filipino and kali practictioner). This guy was very well know in Hong Kong as Rambo or a alias with Rambo. Maybe because of his body built that he is Rambo but he is well know more of his skills in Filipino Martial arts in the streets and alleys. Once Bruce Lee heard of him he invited him for a friendly challenge. This duel was secretly video. As the fight began Bruce Lee was determined to win. The fight was extremely competitive that Bruce Lee was determined to win until he totally beats the hell out of him. Unfortunate that Bruce Lee lost after being stung down as he made hi ferociuos flying kick. As Bruce Lee went down the fight ended and accept defeat. The video was never shown to anyone. They became friends but not much publicly. Anyway I kept this article a few years back hoping to see this guy. On this article is also written that this guy is nice and gentle but when things get rough you better watch out. I forgot his name. I guess Filipino Martial Arts is strong except that us Filipinos does not practice it so much. Quote Link to comment
trebbie Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 (edited) Just a question: How can the person Lee supposedly fought be named Rambo? When Bruce Lee was alive the character of and the name Rambo was not yet famous. The Rambo character first came out in 1983 in the First Blood movie by Sylvester Stallone. Bruce Lee died in 1971, if I remember correctly. This may be another urban legend. Edited April 28, 2003 by trebbie Quote Link to comment
LoveHamster Posted April 28, 2003 Share Posted April 28, 2003 I used to be member of Lingnam Athletic Association ( its a kungfu school in Chinatown ) during my high school days. It was during the Bruce Lee craze and rising fame of Jacky Chan. Its sure takes me away from movie hawshiaw and into the real world of martial art. Totally different, multiple & armed streetfighter are really difficult as there's no filmdirector to choreolgraph everymove to insure no injuries. Nowadays, I maybe way out of the martial art circle, so I carry a 9mm as last resort and ready to run like Forrest Gump. Quote Link to comment
Guest Romeo Posted April 29, 2003 Share Posted April 29, 2003 fhoryou, if he is a filipino, then it must be trovador ramos. i've heard this story when i was a kid. im not sure if it's true but here is what i think. bruce lee was a good martial artist. hedeveloped 2 styles of fighting, one called Jeet Kune Do (JKD) and the other one for movies.from what i understand, there is a similarity between his JKD and his fight scenes in movies,(particularly Enter The Dragon and Chinese Connection,). he was really fast but also really light.i think he weighed around 140-150 and even dropped to below 130. so the power he generatedwith his punches and kick would have to rely on a lot of speed. also, from reading his books andwatching documentaries, he wasn't that good compared to today's UFC fighters. he used movesthat are not effecient (backfists, spinning kicks) as proven by modern martial artists. don't get mewrong, bruce was in incredible martial artist. what made him also incredible is his open mind. hewas willing to learn new things to improve himself. but by today's standard, he is below average. now, getting back to the bruce lee vs trovador ramos fight. i think it is possible that trovadorbeat bruce because of several reasons. trovador might have been bigger and heavier and can throw more powerful strikes. trovador might have also surprised bruce by his fighting stylewhich was unfamiliar with bruce. this is just my two cents. peace Quote Link to comment
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