Mixed Martial Arts

[SevenZeroFive]

wow, i missed the banter here.. cani drop by and share my thoughts on all this?

 

For me, the only reason why Brock was booed so much was because 99% of the people watching knew him as the "WWE Guy", the pro 'rassler, the guy who they thought didn't deserve to be in the UFC, let alone the entire sport, because he was the "fake wrestling guy" (as Smokin' Joe Rogan put it). Go to Fightlinker.com and one post there will show how much the fans, hardcore & Generation TUF alike, hate Brock.

 

For me, the end justifies the means. Frank, for all his talent and resurgence, and his being "calm and collected" during the buildup to the fight, did get personal with Brock, dismissing his skills and brushing off all that he's done in such a short span of time. You can only push someone so much, people. And with how Brock REALLY is, and WWE's former VP for Talent Relations Jim Ross (yes, Good 'Ol JR) makes the case here, you don't want to get personal with someone who's a bit anti-social.

 

And, as one poster from one of the more well known MMA blogs said (I think it was from Bloody Elbow), one can never discount what Brock has done in such a short span of time. If he's that "fake", how can he beat a former #1 contender for the PRIDE Heavyweight Belt (Herring), a UFC Hall of Famer (Couture), and a 2-time UFC Heavyweight champ (Mir) in such dominating fashion? If he's really "fake"?

[King Nothing]

wow, i missed the banter here.. cani drop by and share my thoughts on all this?

 

For me, the only reason why Brock was booed so much was because 99% of the people watching knew him as the "WWE Guy", the pro 'rassler, the guy who they thought didn't deserve to be in the UFC, let alone the entire sport, because he was the "fake wrestling guy" (as Smokin' Joe Rogan put it). Go to Fightlinker.com and one post there will show how much the fans, hardcore & Generation TUF alike, hate Brock.

 

For me, the end justifies the means. Frank, for all his talent and resurgence, and his being "calm and collected" during the buildup to the fight, did get personal with Brock, dismissing his skills and brushing off all that he's done in such a short span of time. You can only push someone so much, people. And with how Brock REALLY is, and WWE's former VP for Talent Relations Jim Ross (yes, Good 'Ol JR) makes the case here, you don't want to get personal with someone who's a bit anti-social.

 

And, as one poster from one of the more well known MMA blogs said (I think it was from Bloody Elbow), one can never discount what Brock has done in such a short span of time. If he's that "fake", how can he beat a former #1 contender for the PRIDE Heavyweight Belt (Herring), a UFC Hall of Famer (Couture), and a 2-time UFC Heavyweight champ (Mir) in such dominating fashion? If he's really "fake"?

 

You have your point sir, he's not really fake, but what is being pointed out is how good is would he be really in this sport, I mean ika nga A.S. or L.M. tipo talent nila ang sport na to... what about brock talent ba talaga or something else... because right now he's just brut and stregnht anyway looking forward to UFC 101, hopfully UFC can win fedor in their fold... medyo nayayabangan na din ako dito kay fedor ayaw sa UFC...Does he realize that if he beat brock...it could cement him as the best fighter of the decade or something like that since he had fought in pride and affliction already.. I f he takes the UFC he can become the "optimus prime" of MMA...sayang lang hindi si randy ang nakakakuha nito yet randy will forever be remembered...

Edited July 18, 2009 by King Nothing

[SevenZeroFive]

^^^ Well said. I agree 100% on the article.

 

Fedor? I'm getting tired of all the Fedor talk. If he ends up in the UFC after the Barnett fight, good. If not, then that gives the young bucks like Carwin, Velasquez, Gonzaga, Kongo, and the rest an actual chance to get to the top spot. I'd prefer the latter.

[boydapa11]

there you go.

 

Give the big guy a Credit, he earned he's belt, maybe up until someOne can really proved much of a challenge to him.

 

who can really pose as a challenge for Brock in UFC right now?

 

tim sylvia, velasquez, or Congo.

 

 

who's next?

[riceb0i]

i just love that article mr legend_killer

 

BTW any one know the winners of Saturday's URCC fights?

[riceb0i]

Ed Folayang won via UD daw chief, Caloy Baduria won via Verbal Sub (fatigue)

 

ahehehe got it from the GB forum nde ko na na post yung iba, kaso daming 1st round stoppages chief

 

yup I hope Brandon wins in a convincing fashion against Matt Hamill, as much as I like Hamill, I like Brandon first, shempre iba na ang kabayan natin

 

any of you guys have thoughts about the upcoming BJ VS KenFlo and Spider VS Forrest fights?

[Kyle_Rayner]

I'm also for Brandon. He looked vicious and hungry on his previous fight, but this will be a tougher test for him. Hamill's definitely no patsy and Vera should better be careful as well.

 

As for the Florian-Penn, Florian is a smart fighter and it's possible that he's figured out how to stop BJ. On the other hand, Penn is a superb and well-talented fighter and this time he's fighting in his weight class, where he is a lot more comfortable with and dangerous. Both guys have great striking and BJJ but stamina will play a big factor.

 

I'd still go for Penn.

[suffocater]

UFC 102: Krzysztof Soszynski replaces injured Matt Hamill against Brandon Vera on Aug. 29

 

Krzysztof Soszynski has been tapped to face Brandon Vera in a light heavyweight bout at UFC 102 from the Rose Garden in Portland, Oregon, after a knee injury has forced Matt Hamill to withdraw from the upcoming event on August 29, according to Sherdog.com.

 

The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 8 semifinalist is no stranger to last minute call-ups. Soszynski replaced an injured Houston Alexander against Andre Gusmao at UFC 98 back on May 23, knocking out the IFL vet in the first round.

 

“The Polish Experiment” made his homecoming at UFC 97 from the Bell Centre in Montreal, Canada, on April 18, defeating former WEC 205-pound champion Brian “All American” Stann via first round submission — his third straight finish by Kimura.

 

Soszynski (18-8-1) trains under Dan Henderson in Temecula, Calif., along with training partner Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou. He has a strong wrestling base, powerful strikes and solid submission skills to boot.

 

Vera (10-3) is a former heavyweight fighter who was considered a possible title contender until sustaining back-to-back losses to Tim Sylvia and Fabricio Werdum. He recently beat Mike Patt into submission with leg kicks to score a second round technical knockout at UFC 96: “Jackson vs. Jardine” earlier this year.

 

It was the second win in three attempts for “The Truth” at 205 pounds -– he has a unanimous decision win over Reese Andy at UFC Fight Night 14 and lackluster split decision loss to Keith Jardine at UFC 89: “Bisping vs. Leben” to his credit.

 

Vera has re-dedicated himself to training and vows to do nothing but kick people’s asses from this point forward to re-establish himself as a top fighter in 2009. He’s off to a good start; however, he’ll have to figure out a way to keep that momentum going against the surging Soszynski.

 

UFC 102 is will feature a main event between Randy “The Natural” Couture (16-9) locking horns with Antonio Rodrigo “Minotauro” Nogueira (31-5-1) in a dream match-up that most fans expected to see before Brock Lesnar and Frank Mir played spoiler roles in the opening round of the mini heavyweight tournament created in late 2008 to crown an undisputed division champion.

 

Also slated for the main card is perennial light heavyweight contender Keith Jardine (14-5-1) who has been tapped to replace Forrest Griffin in a 205-pound slugfest against hard-hitting Brazilian import Thiago Silva (13-1).

Edited July 21, 2009 by suffocater

[maddromeo]

Ed Folayang won via UD daw chief, Caloy Baduria won via Verbal Sub (fatigue)

 

ahehehe got it from the GB forum nde ko na na post yung iba, kaso daming 1st round stoppages chief

 

yup I hope Brandon wins in a convincing fashion against Matt Hamill, as much as I like Hamill, I like Brandon first, shempre iba na ang kabayan natin

 

any of you guys have thoughts about the upcoming BJ VS KenFlo and Spider VS Forrest fights?

 

Wow! The Guam fighter must be really tough to go the distance with "Ed Flo" Hahaha... parang Ken Flo ah!? :thumbsupsmiley:

Umyaw ba yung Cubano kay Baduria!? Nice! :thumbsupsmiley:

 

Complete details naman dyan about sa URCC14 anyone! Thanx

[ray004]

another tough fight ahead for brandon vera against soszynski

[King Nothing]

Vera's edge is in his muay thai if he'll do again what he did in his last fight (vicious leg kicks) and avoid goin down since the polish experiment has shown to be good at kimuras... So vera better avoid going down on ground.

[ixnay]

we all see how vera got into the groove very early in his last fight.. he might as well slugged it out for him to win!..

[riceb0i]

UFC 102: Krzysztof Soszynski replaces injured Matt Hamill against Brandon Vera on Aug. 29

 

Krzysztof Soszynski has been tapped to face Brandon Vera in a light heavyweight bout at UFC 102 from the Rose Garden in Portland, Oregon, after a knee injury has forced Matt Hamill to withdraw from the upcoming event on August 29, according to Sherdog.com.

 

The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 8 semifinalist is no stranger to last minute call-ups. Soszynski replaced an injured Houston Alexander against Andre Gusmao at UFC 98 back on May 23, knocking out the IFL vet in the first round.

 

“The Polish Experiment” made his homecoming at UFC 97 from the Bell Centre in Montreal, Canada, on April 18, defeating former WEC 205-pound champion Brian “All American” Stann via first round submission — his third straight finish by Kimura.

 

Soszynski (18-8-1) trains under Dan Henderson in Temecula, Calif., along with training partner Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou. He has a strong wrestling base, powerful strikes and solid submission skills to boot.

 

Vera (10-3) is a former heavyweight fighter who was considered a possible title contender until sustaining back-to-back losses to Tim Sylvia and Fabricio Werdum. He recently beat Mike Patt into submission with leg kicks to score a second round technical knockout at UFC 96: “Jackson vs. Jardine” earlier this year.

 

It was the second win in three attempts for “The Truth” at 205 pounds -– he has a unanimous decision win over Reese Andy at UFC Fight Night 14 and lackluster split decision loss to Keith Jardine at UFC 89: “Bisping vs. Leben” to his credit.

 

Vera has re-dedicated himself to training and vows to do nothing but kick people’s asses from this point forward to re-establish himself as a top fighter in 2009. He’s off to a good start; however, he’ll have to figure out a way to keep that momentum going against the surging Soszynski.

 

UFC 102 is will feature a main event between Randy “The Natural” Couture (16-9) locking horns with Antonio Rodrigo “Minotauro” Nogueira (31-5-1) in a dream match-up that most fans expected to see before Brock Lesnar and Frank Mir played spoiler roles in the opening round of the mini heavyweight tournament created in late 2008 to crown an undisputed division champion.

 

Also slated for the main card is perennial light heavyweight contender Keith Jardine (14-5-1) who has been tapped to replace Forrest Griffin in a 205-pound slugfest against hard-hitting Brazilian import Thiago Silva (13-1).

why is the UFC pushing Soz into main event status he lost in the TUF8? they should give Ryan Bader a chance, i haven't seen him getting a fight after he won the TUF8 finale

 

Wow! The Guam fighter must be really tough to go the distance with "Ed Flo" Hahaha... parang Ken Flo ah!? :thumbsupsmiley:

Umyaw ba yung Cubano kay Baduria!? Nice! :thumbsupsmiley:

 

Complete details naman dyan about sa URCC14 anyone! Thanx

hehehe napagod daw chief

Edited July 21, 2009 by riceb0i

[SevenZeroFive]

why is the UFC pushing Soz into main event status he lost in the TUF8? they should give Ryan Bader a chance, i haven't seen him getting a fight after he won the TUF8 finale

 

 

hehehe napagod daw chief

 

Bader fought Carmelo Marrero (and won, UD as far as i can remember) at UFC Fight Night 18, but that was way back pa. He's still kinda green, so he's not being pushed yet. In time, with his power and great wrestling he'll be pushed. Props to Soz though, he's a tough vet with impressive outings his last few fights. Loved his KO over fellow IFL vet Andre Gusmao. This will be tough for Brandon.

 

Good thing this piece of news popped up, have been wondering where he has been & why he hasn't been fighting as of late. I mean, I'm psyched now that Brandon's fighting again and representing the country again, after losses by Nover (TKO, UFC 98) & Munoz (KO, UFC 96).

[kuya willie]

Rich Franklin vs. Dan Henderson II headlines UFC 103, "Cro Cop" vs. Junior Dos Santos set

 

source:mma junkie

 

In desperate need of a main event for the organization's first event in Dallas, the Ultimate Fighting Championship today announced a UFC 103 headliner that we've seen once before: Rich Franklin (25-4 MMA, 12-3 UFC) vs. Dan Henderson (25-7 MMA, 5-2 UFC).

 

The two fighters first met at UFC 93 in January with Henderson picking up a somewhat controversial split-decision win.

 

UFC 103 takes place Sept. 19 at the American Airlines Center in Dallas and marks the UFC's first trip to Texas since UFC 69 in Houston more than two years ago.

 

The UFC did not clarify whether the fighters will meet at light heavyweight or middleweight (or even a catch-weight). Franklin most recently competed at 195 pounds, and Henderson recently fought at 185. The bout, though, is unlikely to take place at 185.

 

MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) was the first to report earlier this month that UFC officials wanted Franklin in a main-event slot at UFC 103. As we reported last week, the former UFC middleweight champion is in Las Vegas to negotiate a new deal directly with UFC president Dana White. "Ace" currently has just one fight remaining on his current deal and needs a new contract in place before his next fight.

 

With a deal apparently likely, the 34-year-old is now slotted to return in September in a rematch he's wanted ever since the initial loss.

 

Franklin most recently headlined UFC 99, where he defeated Wanderlei Silva via unanimous decision (at a catch-weight of 195 pounds). Franklin is now 2-1 since leaving the middleweight division. The lone loss came to Henderson, and Franklin immediately said he wanted a rematch after the loss.

 

In the original meeting, Henderson won the split decision via scores of 29-28, 29-28 and a surprising 27-30 score that went to Franklin. Henderson looked to have clearly won the first round, and Franklin (despite suffering a deep and accidental eye poke late in the round) appeared to clearly win the third. The second round has been the most debated, though two of the judges ultimately went with Henderson.

 

Henderson enters UFC 103 off a major knockout victory over rival Michael Bisping at UFC 100. It was his third consecutive victory in the UFC, which also included a September 2008 unanimous-decision win over Rousimar Palhares.

 

Henderson recently told MMAjunkie.com Radio he wants and thinks he deserves a rematch with current middleweight champ Anderson Silva, whom he lost to in March 2008. However, Silva is currently slotted to fight Forrest Griffin in a non-title fight next month at UFC 101, so it's still possible Henderson could get the next title shot if he earns a victory over Franklin.

 

The UFC also today officially announced a long rumored bout between Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic (25-6-2 MMA, 2-2 UFC) and Junior Dos Santos (8-1 MMA, 2-0 UFC)